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(Washington Post)   George Will has bought a ticket on the White Guilt Express. First stop Bigot-town, WOOOO WOOO   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 21
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2012-10-02 01:09:36 PM
5 votes:
1. White Guilt is an entirely left-wing, liberal phenomena
2. Left-wing liberals (who don't vote third party) traditionally vote Democrat.
3. Democratic voters voting Democrat is not evidence of "White Guilt."
4. If a conservative, black Republican ran for President, and suddenly a bunch of white liberals decided that while they don't agree with any of his policies, but that they "owed it to the black race" to vote for the black candidate, THAT would be White Guilt voting.
5. George, I thought you were smarter than that.
2012-10-02 12:15:18 PM
4 votes:
I feel increasingly sorry for George Will. He's obviously intelligent, but his party loyalty is forcing him to embrace (if tepidly) the most irrational nonsense. It's too bad that he can't see past the (D) next to Obama's name to realize that the president is actually a traditional conservative. It's also too bad that the GOP has turned the word "conservative" into a synonym for "lunatic."
2012-10-02 12:12:23 PM
4 votes:
I do have to applaud George for how fantastically he misses the point. Really, it requires skill to do it that well.

What George terms as 'white guilt' is far more likely to be that while people don't think we have improved much, they don't blame Obama for the economic troubles. Polls done every month still show that a majority of Americans blame George Bush for the financial crisis, and rightly so. While Obama arguably, as I have done plenty of times, could have done much more, he has still tried to fix things, and people recognize that. Presented with a credible alternative, this could easily be overwhelmed. Of course, Romney is so far from credible that this simply isn't happening.

Of course, to recognize any of this, George Will would have to pull his head out of his ass, and it's really stuck up there, so that isn't happening.
2012-10-02 04:11:53 PM
2 votes:
The simplest way for the GOP & Mitt to win in November is simple ~
1) Develop a time machine to go back to 2009.
2) Tell the GOP to push the Dems to the hard left for Health Care Reform ~ expansion of Medicaid, Public Options, Single Payer.
3) Allow the Bush Tax Cuts to expire because Obama/Dems wouldn't allow offsetting spending cuts.
4) Push for a much more aggressive Financial Reform and consumer protection.
5) Allow Obama to raise taxes to cover the debt ceiling deal.

Doing all of that would have allowed the GOP to run against an actual tax raising socialist.

By forcing Obama and the Dems to be as cautious and "conservative" as possible, the GOP left themselves no room for them to capture the center.
2012-10-02 04:03:41 PM
2 votes:
In baseball, a game without a clock, each player on a team that is behind by a bunch of runs is advised to "stay within yourself." That baseball lingo means: Do not try to do too much. Instead, get 'em on, get 'em over, get 'em in. There are no five-run home runs. Small, incremental gains matter because the game goes on until someone makes the 27th out.

You can't argue George there. If this election was a baseball game then Romney definitely threw in the towel halfway through the fifth inning.
2012-10-02 11:00:24 PM
1 votes:
Lando Lincoln: Someone has to explain this cartoon to me. I don't have a goddamn clue what it could mean.

Somacandra:Damn. I usually consider myself good at getting political cartoons. It says that Obama is tied up insider Davy Jones's locker that is labeled "Obama Polls." It uses the term "assistant," which suggests to me that Obama is supposed to be Houdini who can escape from this locker---using the Republican Party mascot with tusks...which is..his "assistant."

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs:
shiat man, I think this cartoon just divided by zero. Any one else got a clue? I've got nothing. I don't think the author knows either.

I think his assistant was a walrus. So why would a walrus want to escape to the surface. It would be more natural to him to want to stay underwater.

Nah, the cartoonist was too busy watching Monday Night Football to get it right.


I think it's a reference to the Beatle's song, "Glass Onion". Obama is in a glass container. He's in a straight jacket, a reference to the lines about the "fool on the hill". He under water, "fixing a hole in the ocean" (deficit, unemployment, foreign policy) .
Obama thinks he's going to win because he's beating Romney in the polls. But his assistant was a walrus. In the song, John sings,

I told you about the walrus and me-man
You know that we're as close as can be-man.
Well here's another clue for you all,
The walrus was Paul.


Everyone thought that Paul was dead but he really wasn't, just like Ron Paul still has the support of his followers. The polls are all asking if people are going to vote for Obama or Romney; no one is asking if people are going to write in Ron Paul's name on ballot. If factored in the "hidden" vote for Ron Paul, then "we're as close as can be".

So the cartoon means that Obama thinks he's going to win because he is leading Romney in the polls, but Ron Paul will win the election after people write in his name instead of voting for Romney.

/koo koo ka choo
2012-10-02 06:56:59 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: I do have to applaud George for how fantastically he misses the point. Really, it requires skill to do it that well.

What George terms as 'white guilt' is far more likely to be that while people don't think we have improved much, they don't blame Obama for the economic troubles. Polls done every month still show that a majority of Americans blame George Bush for the financial crisis, and rightly so. While Obama arguably, as I have done plenty of times, could have done much more, he has still tried to fix things, and people recognize that. Presented with a credible alternative, this could easily be overwhelmed. Of course, Romney is so far from credible that this simply isn't happening.

Of course, to recognize any of this, George Will would have to pull his head out of his ass, and it's really stuck up there, so that isn't happening.


I agree. His problem and that of the entire GOP is they are running against "invisible Obama" rather than against President Obama. That is why they do not "get it", and rather than actually launch an effective attack against President Obama on the "more" he could have done, they are attacking the faults of the "invisible Obama". It doesn't resonate because nobody outside of the echo chamber agrees with it. In their minds it is because they do not think they got their message across due to the liberal mainstream media.
2012-10-02 05:04:55 PM
1 votes:
Okay, so according to the Imbeciles, the white people vote for him because he's black and the black people vote for him because he's black. So why do the rest of us vote for him? Am I suffering from East Indian guilt? Or is it because as a light brown man, I'm "almost" black? If it's about race, why would I rather punch myself in the balls than vote for Jindal?

These questions must be answered, preferably by a republican troll!
2012-10-02 04:32:37 PM
1 votes:
That cartoon is why absinthe was outlawed.

/The greatest political cartoon story I ever heard was the LA Time cartoonist drew a cartoon about George Meany, a California toady of Nixon who thought he was going to get a White House appointment for helping Nixon win California. The cartoon showed a bunch of EMTs with straight jackets running into Meany's house with the caption "Honey, Nixon's men are here with my appointment!"

Meany got so pissed he sued the LA Times and demanded an apology. So the Times cartoonist took the same cartoon and recaptioned it "Honey, the LA Times men are here with my apology!"
2012-10-02 04:10:11 PM
1 votes:
I can't help but notice that whenever some says "white guilt" the context is in chastising me for not being racist. I think white guilt is a term invented by white racists to explain to themselves why other white people aren't racist - because racism is the logical thing to reach for.
2012-10-02 04:09:24 PM
1 votes:
I really wish I could think less of George Will, but it's just not possible. Like Gingrich, he's what a stupid baseball fan thinks a smart baseball fan sounds like, he can't accept the fact that the electorate rejects his politics, so it must be because we're a country of ni-bong! lovers, and that farking smug washington insidery preachiness that holds others to account without ever having to be held to account. He's nothing but a buzzword recitation machine -"Go big on your shiatty ineffective talking points if you want to win, Mitt! without bothering to examine why exactly he's losing at this point. Like raising your voice to simply say the same things is an effective strategy when you are losing an argument

Just an odious, amoral, horrific person.
2012-10-02 03:54:19 PM
1 votes:
I guess George Will doesn't think that non-whites can ever achieve success on their own merits.
2012-10-02 03:51:10 PM
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: Someone has to explain this cartoon to me.

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I don't have a goddamn clue what it could mean.


Short version: Obama has been lured into a false sense of security by his obviously biased poll numbers.
2012-10-02 03:50:09 PM
1 votes:
It's about time conservative commentators with some brain cells left pick themselves up by their own bootstraps and stop pushing what they know is complete batshiat insane nonsense just for a paycheck from the political machine. You'd think they would have all learned from the foaming at the mouth during the Clinton years, but no, they're now turned up to Derp Level 10 and beyond.
2012-10-02 03:49:48 PM
1 votes:
Yeah, Americans would never try to blame a problem on a black person. Idiot.

Obama is doing so well because things are much better than they were 4 years ago, he is a very gifted politician, and Romney's clownshoes and shady past turned the election into a referendum on an incredibly weak challenger.
2012-10-02 02:44:22 PM
1 votes:

dogdaze: This is the same BS the cons have been pushing ever since Obama got the Democrat nomination the first time. Will says the Obama admin is in shambles. How so? Will never bothers to expand on that. It is really killing cons like Will that Obama has had all the success he has and since they have a complete dud for a candidate, this is what they have been reduced to, a bunch of race-baiters.


Obama is running an administration and campaign at the same time and doing a farking amazing job IMHO. Romney can't even run just a campaign and get it right.
2012-10-02 01:24:52 PM
1 votes:
washingtonindependent.com

"LIFE AIN'T NOTHIN BUT B*TCHES AND MONEY"
2012-10-02 01:05:31 PM
1 votes:

downstairs: Damn.  I used to be a fan of George... even when I didn't agree with him.  But he's been sucked into the vortex that all right-leaning commentators seem to be forced into.  Ugh.
 
At least he uses really big words.


They all represent the same central failing:

Rather than commit apostasy, they just start lying. It's a very quick and clear sign of intellectual cowardice, lack of integrity and moral bankruptcy.

And to avoid it all he has to say is "This group of people who I formerly supported no longer represent my beliefs".
2012-10-02 12:50:44 PM
1 votes:
We should vote against Obama just to prove we are not racist -- But it was wrong to elect Obama just to prove we were not racist. -- GOT IT!
2012-10-02 12:46:38 PM
1 votes:
That nearly 25 percent - the highest in three decades - of Americans between ages 25 and 55 are unemployed.

*clicks on linked citation*




OPINION
September 28, 2012, 6:31 p.m. ET

Data released this week by the Commerce Department waved bright red recession flags-orders for durable goods fell 13.2% in August and inflation-adjusted personal income fell 0.3%. President Obama is asking for more time to allow the lackluster recovery to pick up steam. His plan is to move the economy "forward" by keeping the current policy framework in place and adding higher tax rates on income and capital gains. But the new Commerce Department numbers, combined with his stay-the-course approach, point to recession in 2013.

This administration's economic policy is built on deficit spending, government control over the economy and dependence ...


And... that's it. That's the entire citation under "nearly 25 percent."
2012-10-02 12:38:08 PM
1 votes:
*blink*

Wow. That was racist.
 
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