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(Washington Post)   George Will has bought a ticket on the White Guilt Express. First stop Bigot-town, WOOOO WOOO   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 217
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2012-10-02 10:36:45 PM  

stigmatoe: Will is an amazing intellect. Don't even bother trying.


And a Cubs fan. You can't argue with 100 losses.
 
2012-10-02 10:40:37 PM  

HighOnCraic: someonelse: WordyGrrl: If he were alive today, I'd love to know what William F. Buckley Jr would have had to say about all this. I do think he'd offer up a well-deserved verbal biatch slapping to George Will for being a jackass.

Or not.

the central question that emerges... is whether the White community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas where it does not predominate numerically? The sobering answer is Yes - the White community is so entitled because, for the time being, it is the advanced race.

Yeah, that's the exact editorial I was thinking of.


I like to think he'd be more enlightened by 2012 than he was in 1957.
 
2012-10-02 10:55:49 PM  

Tommy Moo: I just... I normally have relatively high regard for George Will (for a conservative, at least), but how in the hell does he imagine that anyone still supports Obama because he's black? I literally haven't even seen black special interest groups make a big deal about his race anymore. Even the NAACP is talking about jobs and the health care bill.


In the last two weeks, I've heard 3-5 Republicans I know in real life bring out the "Obama only one because all the blacks voted for him" or "all the blacks only voted for him because he's black" lines. Guess that means Rush or the local radio troll, Mike Berry, is pushing that.
 
2012-10-02 11:00:24 PM  
Lando Lincoln: Someone has to explain this cartoon to me. I don't have a goddamn clue what it could mean.

Somacandra:Damn. I usually consider myself good at getting political cartoons. It says that Obama is tied up insider Davy Jones's locker that is labeled "Obama Polls." It uses the term "assistant," which suggests to me that Obama is supposed to be Houdini who can escape from this locker---using the Republican Party mascot with tusks...which is..his "assistant."

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs:
shiat man, I think this cartoon just divided by zero. Any one else got a clue? I've got nothing. I don't think the author knows either.

I think his assistant was a walrus. So why would a walrus want to escape to the surface. It would be more natural to him to want to stay underwater.

Nah, the cartoonist was too busy watching Monday Night Football to get it right.


I think it's a reference to the Beatle's song, "Glass Onion". Obama is in a glass container. He's in a straight jacket, a reference to the lines about the "fool on the hill". He under water, "fixing a hole in the ocean" (deficit, unemployment, foreign policy) .
Obama thinks he's going to win because he's beating Romney in the polls. But his assistant was a walrus. In the song, John sings,

I told you about the walrus and me-man
You know that we're as close as can be-man.
Well here's another clue for you all,
The walrus was Paul.


Everyone thought that Paul was dead but he really wasn't, just like Ron Paul still has the support of his followers. The polls are all asking if people are going to vote for Obama or Romney; no one is asking if people are going to write in Ron Paul's name on ballot. If factored in the "hidden" vote for Ron Paul, then "we're as close as can be".

So the cartoon means that Obama thinks he's going to win because he is leading Romney in the polls, but Ron Paul will win the election after people write in his name instead of voting for Romney.

/koo koo ka choo
 
2012-10-02 11:24:19 PM  
So if we're reluctant to give up on the first black president, why exactly did we vote Bush in a second time?
 
2012-10-02 11:41:51 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Someone has to explain this cartoon to me.

[www.washingtonpost.com image 296x263]

I don't have a goddamn clue what it could mean.


Well, it's from sometime in 2011, so it's not referring to current election polls. I think it came from a time when Obama's approval rating was thought to be "sinking him". The reference to the assistant who bound him being a Republican -- I can't figure out any way to make that fit in too well with the rest of the metaphor. Sloppy cartoonist is sloppy.
 
2012-10-03 12:50:40 AM  
Every time that bowtie milquetoast pulls out the sports analogies, I have to laugh. Imagine him trying to swing a softball bat in his Harvard jacket. Ooh ooh, timeout, I've scuffed a loafer. Jennings, fetch the emergency shoeshine kit.
 
2012-10-03 12:59:38 AM  
I am going to cock punch the next person who biatches about the DOE underwriting loans to green energy companies. At least we're trying to jump start an industry that has the potential for radical growth and along with it jobs here in America. I vaguely remember us doing stuff like that in the 50's and 60's for the tech industry and how did that work out for us over the long haul.

Plus, if you compare the amount the DOE has underwritten for these companies (some of which do go under, invisible hand of the market people!) vs. the amount the DoD budget increased and quality of services delivered to troops on the front lines decreased with the invention of the "Cost Plus" contract, I'm willing to bet that contracting vehicle cost us more than we've spent on green energy.
 
2012-10-03 01:31:01 AM  

GAT_00: I do have to applaud George for how fantastically he misses the point. Really, it requires skill to do it that well.

What George terms as 'white guilt' is far more likely to be that while people don't think we have improved much, they don't blame Obama for the economic troubles. Polls done every month still show that a majority of Americans blame George Bush for the financial crisis, and rightly so. While Obama arguably, as I have done plenty of times, could have done much more, he has still tried to fix things, and people recognize that. Presented with a credible alternative, this could easily be overwhelmed. Of course, Romney is so far from credible that this simply isn't happening.

Of course, to recognize any of this, George Will would have to pull his head out of his ass, and it's really stuck up there, so that isn't happening.


Will's problem is that with Buckley, Goldwater, and other intellectual conservatives gone, he's more or less the leading intellectual light in movement conservatism, which has embraced evangelism as its center, a movement not famously known for its strong critical thinking skills. He has to gamely pitch Romney over Obama, even though Romney acts like he was concocted by a focus group and Obama has embraced several movement conservatism policies, like the ACA, in an effort to at least make progress on needed legislation. Will faces the problem of having to stay conservative while still using big words.

"White liberal guilt" is a strange thing. It requires a perception of minorities that they're media creations instead of individuals. The idea that liberal America would be reluctant to kick Obama out if they felt he wasn't holding up his end of the bargain is insane, considering the first voices I heard screaming for his impeachment came from the left, when he failed to instantly end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. (Thanks a load, Ted Rall, you twit.) The problem with the Republicans this cycle is their flat refusal to choose a candidate who might have drawn votes away from Obama - rather than move to the center, they steered hard right into crazyland, because for some damn reason they thought that that was the way to defeat a centrist.

Liberal America is going to vote for the more liberal candidate, and in order to accept the general premise of Will's argument, you have to completely ignore that fact. The candidate that gets up there and starts screaming God, the American Flag, and Apple Pie is going to be seen as an opportunistic parasite by most of us on the left.
 
2012-10-03 05:22:32 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: I wish I hadn't skipped over this thread until now. That was an insane read from someone I had at least a modicum of respect for.


You think this is bad, you should see his thoughts on denim.
 
2012-10-03 06:06:50 AM  

Rincewind53: Any person that uses the phrase "white guilt" unironically deserves a cockpunch.


"White Guilt" sounds like the perfect name for a band of hipster douches that play covers of Skrillex and Mumford & Sons.
 
2012-10-03 06:08:29 AM  

FuryOfFirestorm: Rincewind53: Any person that uses the phrase "white guilt" unironically deserves a cockpunch.

"White Guilt" sounds like the perfect name for a band of hipster douches that play covers of Skrillex and Mumford & Sons.


It would be better as a Calvin Klein fragrance.
 
2012-10-03 09:48:14 AM  

MSFT: So if we're reluctant to give up on the first black president, why exactly did we vote Bush in a second time?


Because we were reluctant to give up on the first mentally handicapped president.
 
2012-10-03 11:00:59 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: That was an insane read from someone I had at least a modicum of respect for.


This.
 
2012-10-03 12:05:02 PM  

peasandcarrots: GAT_00: I do have to applaud George for how fantastically he misses the point. Really, it requires skill to do it that well.

What George terms as 'white guilt' is far more likely to be that while people don't think we have improved much, they don't blame Obama for the economic troubles. Polls done every month still show that a majority of Americans blame George Bush for the financial crisis, and rightly so. While Obama arguably, as I have done plenty of times, could have done much more, he has still tried to fix things, and people recognize that. Presented with a credible alternative, this could easily be overwhelmed. Of course, Romney is so far from credible that this simply isn't happening.

Of course, to recognize any of this, George Will would have to pull his head out of his ass, and it's really stuck up there, so that isn't happening.

Will's problem is that with Buckley, Goldwater, and other intellectual conservatives gone, he's more or less the leading intellectual light in movement conservatism, which has embraced evangelism as its center, a movement not famously known for its strong critical thinking skills. He has to gamely pitch Romney over Obama, even though Romney acts like he was concocted by a focus group and Obama has embraced several movement conservatism policies, like the ACA, in an effort to at least make progress on needed legislation. Will faces the problem of having to stay conservative while still using big words.

"White liberal guilt" is a strange thing. It requires a perception of minorities that they're media creations instead of individuals. The idea that liberal America would be reluctant to kick Obama out if they felt he wasn't holding up his end of the bargain is insane, considering the first voices I heard screaming for his impeachment came from the left, when he failed to instantly end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. (Thanks a load, Ted Rall, you twit.) The problem with the Republicans this cycle is their flat refusal to cho ...


The problem with the GOP is the "intellectual conservatives" like Buckley and Goldwater sided with the segregationists in the 50s and 60s and made the anti-intellectual Southerners their base.
 
2012-10-03 03:11:14 PM  

thamike: FuryOfFirestorm: Rincewind53: Any person that uses the phrase "white guilt" unironically deserves a cockpunch.

"White Guilt" sounds like the perfect name for a band of hipster douches that play covers of Skrillex and Mumford & Sons.

It would be better as a Calvin Klein fragrance.


White Guilt.

For Men.

New from Calvin Klein.

Smell the racism.

Free white hood and wooden cross when you buy the White Guilt cologne, body wash and lotion gift set. Available for a limited time only.
 
2012-10-03 04:48:16 PM  

casual disregard: hillbillypharmacist: I really wish I could find the cartoon that has a hunter standing over a dead bear. The hunter is labelled 'political cartoons' and the bear is labelled 'subtlety'.

Not what you wanted, but not too far off maybe:

[art.penny-arcade.com image 800x401]
/obviously hot


I love the few forays PA has made into mocking political cartoons.
 
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