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2012-10-02 03:39:41 PM  
6 votes:
Here's why his letter was bullying, even if it was bullying lite - it's none of his goddamn business what her weight is, that's why. If she was on camera eating buckets of lard topped ice cream of constantly doing pieces on gluttony - then that would be something to call out, but simply being overweight does not set "bad example"

While the letter wasn't overtly insulting, it was a very lite version of the sort of bullying that overweight people put up with on a regular basis. Fat people know they were fat, and most of them want to lose the weight, but condescending comments like those in the letter are the type of thing that cause people to develop eating disorders, or to avoid going out in public or to the gym. If you're overweight and go to the gym, instead of "fit" people being supportive, you tend to get people glaring at you like you're going to break all the equipment, and somehow your presence disrupts their ability to function.
2012-10-02 01:45:40 PM  
6 votes:
So basically...

Expressing concern about obesity = bullying.
Ignoring and supporting health problems = inspiring.


Got it.
2012-10-02 01:25:40 PM  
5 votes:
I totally didn't read that letter as bullying. It looked more like a carefully-worded letter of concern for her health/weight, and the influence it might be having on impressionable youth.

Putting it on the air and turning it around as an attack? That's bullying.
2012-10-02 08:55:42 PM  
4 votes:
An anchor's cranky email correspondence does not constitute farking news! That's the real GOTdamn tragedy here.
2012-10-02 02:14:17 PM  
4 votes:
Yeah, she's way off base. The letter was polite, and discussed an issue that is a real problem in the west right now. Instead of simply replying to him privatly, or even better just ignoring it...she is now a rally point for those who've jumped on the "fat acceptance" movement. But it's wrong to accept you are fat. Fat is unhealthy and it takes its toll not only on the individual but on society as well as we have to cover those health costs...
She is a public figure, and she is obese...and traditionally, little girls see the women on tv as role models, especially the ones with a professional job. So, yes, the message is that fat is ok.

She needs to not accept it, and hit the gym. She can afford it.
2012-10-03 02:28:12 AM  
3 votes:
Criticism is not the same as bullying. If it were, every bit of needed advice ever given would have been bullying.

The critique was private, and instead of letting it change her, the news anchor chose to publicize it in order to garner sympathy.

Anyone can choose to respond positively to an accurate critique, whatever the motivations of the critic. In this case the news anchor dismisses the critique, not because it is incorrect, but because she is not emotionally mature enough to benefit from it. The critique hurt, but instead of working to solve her own problem, she relieves herself of the pain by trying to shame the critic for telling the truth.

Obesity is unattractive and causes health risks. Smoking is unattractive and causes health risks. Like a smoker, fighting her bad habits would improve her life, but the news anchor prefers the easy and pleasurable stroking of her ego to the more difficult long-term process of change.

Political correctness is all too effective at insulating people from the pain that might do them good.

Bullying is not some new or growing problem in this nation. The problem is that as we become weaker and more sensitive to critiques, what used to be stern advice is seen as bullying. To a society that increasingly panders to victims, playing the part is advantageous, at least in the emotional short term.

Most reasonable people know that obesity is harmful to individuals and society. How absurd would it be for the smoker to blame those who tell him to stop? Pretending that the problem lies with the critic is just one more display of weakness.

She obviously only cares about her weight when someone tells her about it, but "in many years," according to her own words, has not bothered to shed any weight.

This woman was not bullied. Bullied is being tormented. Bullied is being picked on for days, weeks, and months. Bullied means you dread going to school and wish you could do anything else. Bullied means you live in fear.

This woman was written an open and frank letter. The writer didn't use any derogatory words, only stated the obvious. This is an example of how censor free speech, by demonizing someone who said something you don't like, regardless of truth or content.

This isn't bullying.... at ALL. This is making a mockery of what true bullying is. Can anyone tell me where in that letter he attacked her for being fat? He didn't. Calling her not a suitable example for young people may be a tad blunt, but far from cruel.

I support this guy 100%. Obesity is a serious problem that people shouldn't be condoning. No, you shouldn't look in the mirror when you're morbidly obese and just cope with it saying "It's what's on the inside that counts" or some bullocks like that. These people are taking years off their life, and it saddens me to see that instead of people doing what they should and making people accountable for being overweight (like they do for people who smoke cigarettes), and instead worrying about their self-confidence.

How would people react if there was a news anchor who smoked everyday during their broadcast? They'd be outraged. Yet when this woman comes on camera we're supposed to condone her unhealthy lifestyle choices and pretend this doesn't actually have some level of influence on younger generations? It does.

If she's gonna get up on a soap box every time a viewer sends an idiotic/mean email to her, that's all she'll ever be doing

Doing this 4 minute 20 second editorial piece to address one single viewer comment is unprofessional.And trolls are going to flood her email inbox now.

She may not be encouraging people to be fat but she IS setting a precedent that being fat is "normal" which will dull people's perspective on just how serious of a health issue it is.

Worse yet, she's convincing people that criticizing others for being fat is "bullying". That letter wasn't bullying, if anything the writer seemed sincerely concerned. Chastising him for it on TV is like me going on TV and claiming I'm getting bullied because someone told me that smoking in front of people, particularly children, is a bad idea.
2012-10-02 09:22:58 PM  
3 votes:
The funny thing is, that note was sent as a PRIVATE EMAIL. It may not have been tactful, but it wasn't bullying unless the person who sent it to her has had a history of similar repeated behavior towards her. It would have stayed between her and the person who wrote it if she hadn't gone around telling it to all her friends, family, co-workers, FACEBOOK FOLLOWERS (*facepalm*), and finally airing it on the news to make a big deal out of it and get attention.

memecrunch.com
2012-10-02 04:20:38 PM  
3 votes:
Damn, I was waiting for him to "get told" and all I saw was a bunch of whining about how he was a bully and he was mean.
2012-10-02 01:51:06 PM  
3 votes:
Umm.... i agree with the guy that wrote the letter, and i don't see it as bullying at all.
2012-10-02 01:48:19 PM  
3 votes:
To be fair, Obesity has done far more harm to individuals and families than bullying.
2012-10-02 04:18:33 PM  
2 votes:
This whole "bullying" thing has done nothing but turn the country into pussies.


I was "bullied" in school & I'm sure my dad was bullied in school... as well as his dad.

It is called life, get the fark up to speed.
2012-10-02 03:15:07 PM  
2 votes:
Must've been the first time she's received a message of a personal nature from a total stranger. She seemed more offended that somebody didn't mind their own business, and found a convenient way to spin this into a human-interest piece on anti-bullying month. I'm sure she'll be praised for her inspiring courage or whatever, but this is overreacting AW-ing, IMO.
j4x
2012-10-02 01:16:09 PM  
2 votes:
And that letter was very professional and reasonable.

BUT POINTING OUT THAT OBESITY IS A PROBLEM AND SHE IS A PUBLIC FIGURE IS TOTALLY BULLYING GUYS
2012-10-02 12:11:39 PM  
2 votes:
All I saw was three seconds of a Honda commercial before I closed the link.
2012-10-03 11:39:49 AM  
1 votes:

jst3p: Am I the only one that was enraged when she said her husband "posted an email on my facebook"?


He's the bully, for attracting all this attention to his wife's weight just because it's anti-bullying month. He threw her into the grinder for the sake of publicity, and she took the bait, making her a victim twice.

/sorry for the mixed metaphor
2012-10-03 11:26:16 AM  
1 votes:
Oh, and another case of how we ascribe our own motivations and methods to others.

Guy sends her a critical private letter, telling her she's obviously got a substance abuse problem and setting a bad example for children. (Yes, carbohydrates are a chemical too.) For all we know, it could have been Michael Bloomberg. So, she goes all shrew in public and attempts to label him as a "bully" and shout him down from her bully pulpit.

NIce.
2012-10-03 07:08:11 AM  
1 votes:
Somehow I get the feeling that as this story gets more national attention, she will realize what true bullying is.
2012-10-03 03:20:42 AM  
1 votes:
This kind of crap is what I hate about TV news. I could not care less about the hurtful email you received. That four and one-third minutes could have been used productively telling me THE NEWS! It's not about you, lady. I applaud that you can obtain and keep a job in a shallow and visual-centric profession such as television broadcasting. You must be good at it. But I DON'T CARE about your appearance. And I don't want to hear about your personal problems.

/be more FOXy
2012-10-02 11:45:55 PM  
1 votes:
so one of the shows customers decides to write in and offer what he doesn't like about her as an anchor woman and she calls him out on it and yet I bet that same lady goes into retail stores and when she doesn't get her way she calls the folks behind the counter stupid and "don't you know who i am"

i bet her husband wrote the email to help her kick off anti bullying month
2012-10-02 10:24:57 PM  
1 votes:

TonnageVT: Liters


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2012-10-02 09:22:08 PM  
1 votes:
Wow, I'm fat and after reading these comments I'm pretty much ready to pick a bridge.

/I'll try not to hit your car.
2012-10-02 08:42:51 PM  
1 votes:

God-is-a-Taco: I'm really conflicted with these stories.


FTV:
Livingston singled the writer out as a bully. "The truth is I am overweight," Livingston said. "You can call me fat and yes, even obese on a doctor's chart. To the person who wrote me that letter, do you think I don't know that? Your cruel words are pointing out something I don't see? You don't know me. You are not a friend of mine. You are not a part of my family, and you admitted that you don't watch this show so you know nothing about me besides what you see on the outside - and I am much more than a number on a scale."

God-is-a-Taco: Obesity has serious health repercussions and it's not something to "accept" like terminal cancer.


Agreed. But people are people and we shouldn't hate them simply for something we don't agree with. Kindness, education and support will go a lot farther than attacks.
2012-10-02 08:39:15 PM  
1 votes:
I'm really conflicted with these stories.
Trolling is usually wrong, and bullying is certainly wrong.

But...
Obesity has serious health repercussions and it's not something to "accept" like terminal cancer. 
It's something that can and should be remedied, you can't equate it with race or sexuality (which she did at 3:58)
2012-10-02 08:24:50 PM  
1 votes:

BraveNewCheneyWorld: kevinfra: As the newscaster pointed out, 'Yes, I'm overweight, you could call me fat, even obsese...You think that I don't know this?"

So all forms of criticism should be done away with then, because everyone must already fully realize they have a problem and its extent. I wonder if psychologists know how useless they are.

What gets me is when she says "Attacks like this are not ok", honestly I think she's got some thin skin.


I never said that. Telling a person she is fat isn't criticism, it's just plain rude. Even if you dress it up with a "think of the children," line, you're still being rude.
2012-10-02 08:07:25 PM  
1 votes:

kevinfra: As the newscaster pointed out, 'Yes, I'm overweight, you could call me fat, even obsese...You think that I don't know this?"


So all forms of criticism should be done away with then, because everyone must already fully realize they have a problem and its extent. I wonder if psychologists know how useless they are.

What gets me is when she says "Attacks like this are not ok", honestly I think she's got some thin skin.
2012-10-02 07:46:53 PM  
1 votes:
Maybe it wasn't bullying in the sense of pouring pig blood on her at the prom, but it was at the very least a$$hole behavior.

Although the letter was politely worded, the overall message was anything.

As the newscaster pointed out, 'Yes, I'm overweight, you could call me fat, even obsese...You think that I don't know this?"

Do you think the letter was expressing legitimate concern for the self image of young girls watching a morning news cast? Did the author really expect this woman to see the letter and realize, "Wow, I really am overweight. I'm going to the gym right now and not coming back until I'm a size 0. Thank you so much for pointing it out to me!"
2012-10-02 07:35:30 PM  
1 votes:
Well, it sounds like she found the perfect excuse to stay fat. She won't be bullied into being healthy!
2012-10-02 07:22:28 PM  
1 votes:
All kidding aside, she is obese. To be fair, the man worded his letter nicely, and didn't sink to calling names. Get over the butt hurt lady, you're fat, everyone knows it, and he didn't bully you, just said you were obese, well..look in the mirror, you are....

/just saying.
2012-10-02 07:17:13 PM  
1 votes:
So telling someone they're fat and they should consider losing weight for their own health and to set a good example is bullying? First of all, let's be fair - being fat is not on the same level as race, gender, or having a disability. It's over-consumption of food, as alcoholism is over-consumption of alcohol, or prescription drug use is the over-consumption of prescription drugs. A blind person can't fix their vision, but fat people can lose weight (unless they're immune to the laws of thermodynamics). Would it be bullying to privately pull the alcoholic Cub Scouts leader aside and say "dude, we can tell you're an alcoholic, and maybe you should stop drinking so much because it's really bad for your health and you're setting a bad example to the kids who can smell booze on your breath and wonder why you look like sh*t." Would we call him brave for getting up in front of everyone and saying "hey, buddy *hic*, mind yer own darn business. D'ya think I don't know I'm an alcoholic? Stop bullying me!" I think the brave one is the person who's willing to be honest, confront someone about their problems, and let the elephant(heh heh) out of the room.
2012-10-02 07:04:42 PM  
1 votes:

WhiskeySticks: sure haven't: Why is he "now" a known douche? Because he talks with the logic?

The fact that he takes time out of his day to point out to someone who knows they have weight issues to say, "hey, guess what, you're fat" that is what makes him a douche. If he would walk up to someone on the street and say that to people, he'd get the shiat kicked out of him in no time.

There are a lot of things that I don't agree with, but I'm not going around pointing it out.

"hey you, buying cigarettes, that stuff will kill you"
"hey you, using food stamps to buy milk then buying lottery tickets, you're going to stay poor if you keep buying those"
"hey you, pulling up to McDonalds, that shiats gonna clog your arteries"
hey you, wearing those Nike shoes, you know kids made those things, you were over charged, they take away American jobs and you look retarded wearing them"
"hey you, pull up your pants and buy a belt, I don't like seeing your fat ass hanging out in front of me"

These are the sort of things you can't go around telling people just because you have an issue with how they live their life.


Why?
Not that I'm some social overhaul guy who does, but the correct wording is that people "don't", there is no "can't". The problem with this world is that no one gets the truth shoved in their face. Hyper sensitivity and political correctness are crippling.

She's obese and promoting some health week or something, that's a conflict of interest. A fat obese human form is unattractive. It's not "BULLYING", it's science. Sure there are fatty chasers, but it's not the ideal human form. It's just not.
2012-10-02 06:40:45 PM  
1 votes:
"I'm more than a number on a scale."

Yea, more along the lines of 300 numbers.
2012-10-02 06:23:19 PM  
1 votes:
It not bullying if it's true.
2012-10-02 05:49:36 PM  
1 votes:
Sounds like she'll be on all the National morning talk shows tomorrow as this story has grown legs to major news sites...I live in the same city as the newscast.

The whole community is rallying with Jennifer's message. This guy's going to get railroaded out of town, or maybe one could say bullied out of town??

And he has a shiatty tattoo.

Perhaps someone should send him an email saying that it's bad for the artistic community to have shiatty ink. Nobody aspiring to get tattooed should have to look at this awful choice of artwork.
2012-10-02 05:36:36 PM  
1 votes:

Zachery: She lost my sympathy at "You don't know me."


"But I know you're fat."
2012-10-02 05:34:47 PM  
1 votes:
Okay I get it, so now if you tell someone the truth for their own good, you're a bully or a hater...way to go society.
2012-10-02 05:27:00 PM  
1 votes:
Didn't read the thread so forgive me if this has been covered:

Fatty defending being fat?

This is "bullying"?

Am I the only one that was enraged when she said her husband "posted an email on my facebook"?
2012-10-02 05:02:27 PM  
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: vegasj: It is called life, get the fark up to speed.

Yes we should just turn our backs on people being picked on.


Sometimes we should. When some kids learn that they should not rely on others to continually defend them, it can really help them to mature. They learn when they need to be assertive when warranted, or when it's just wise to walk away. They learn coping skills that they would not otherwise learn if they weren't forced to confront uncomfortable situations. Unfortunately, too many kids have grown up expecting others to fight their battles and make their problems go away. Obviously, sometimes intervention by some sort of authority figure is necessary, but in many cases, bringing in the teacher or principal to intervene creates more problems than it solves.
2012-10-02 04:44:37 PM  
1 votes:
She lost my sympathy at "You don't know me."
2012-10-02 04:27:44 PM  
1 votes:

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Here's why his letter was bullying, even if it was bullying lite - it's none of his goddamn business what her weight is, that's why. If she was on camera eating buckets of lard topped ice cream of constantly doing pieces on gluttony - then that would be something to call out, but simply being overweight does not set "bad example"

While the letter wasn't overtly insulting, it was a very lite version of the sort of bullying that overweight people put up with on a regular basis. Fat people know they were fat, and most of them want to lose the weight, but condescending comments like those in the letter are the type of thing that cause people to develop eating disorders, or to avoid going out in public or to the gym. If you're overweight and go to the gym, instead of "fit" people being supportive, you tend to get people glaring at you like you're going to break all the equipment, and somehow your presence disrupts their ability to function.


No what disrupts the ability to function is the fat ass getting in the lap lane at the pool and walking or just floating, while the pool has an area that is made just for that. Water aerobics. Then they stare at you blankly as you and the rest of the people trying to swim all stand and wait as they float along like a dead whale.

/Proper pool attire would be nice as well.
2012-10-02 04:12:17 PM  
1 votes:
"purchase a high res copy of this video"

(paypal link)


really guys?
2012-10-02 03:47:55 PM  
1 votes:

sure haven't: Why is he "now" a known douche? Because he talks with the logic?


The fact that he takes time out of his day to point out to someone who knows they have weight issues to say, "hey, guess what, you're fat" that is what makes him a douche. If he would walk up to someone on the street and say that to people, he'd get the shiat kicked out of him in no time.

There are a lot of things that I don't agree with, but I'm not going around pointing it out.

"hey you, buying cigarettes, that stuff will kill you"
"hey you, using food stamps to buy milk then buying lottery tickets, you're going to stay poor if you keep buying those"
"hey you, pulling up to McDonalds, that shiats gonna clog your arteries"
hey you, wearing those Nike shoes, you know kids made those things, you were over charged, they take away American jobs and you look retarded wearing them"
"hey you, pull up your pants and buy a belt, I don't like seeing your fat ass hanging out in front of me"

These are the sort of things you can't go around telling people just because you have an issue with how they live their life.
2012-10-02 03:38:07 PM  
1 votes:

WhiskeySticks: The issue that was taken is that's she's not a role model for others, especially for young girls and her three daughters. Her husband was the one who was the most pissed, which is understandable. Media people get hate mail and criticism all the time, it comes with the job.


/Her brother is Ron Livingston of Office Space fame.
//The guy who sent the email is a lawyer and now known as an all around douche bag.


"Hate mail" no.
Criticism? yes.
Valid criticism? yes.

Why is he "now" a known douche? Because he talks with the logic?
j4x
2012-10-02 03:12:08 PM  
1 votes:

stonicus: j4x: stonicus: Wolf892: Yeah, she's way off base. The letter was polite, and discussed an issue that is a real problem in the west right now. Instead of simply replying to him privatly, or even better just ignoring it...she is now a rally point for those who've jumped on the "fat acceptance" movement. But it's wrong to accept you are fat. Fat is unhealthy and it takes its toll not only on the individual but on society as well as we have to cover those health costs...
She is a public figure, and she is obese...and traditionally, little girls see the women on tv as role models, especially the ones with a professional job. So, yes, the message is that fat is ok.

She needs to not accept it, and hit the gym. She can afford it.

Speeding is unhealthy... fire anyone with speeding tickets? It's just accepting of their poor dangerous driving.
Depression is unhealthy... fire anyone with clinical depression?
Diabetes is unhealthy... fire anyone with diabetes?

No one is calling for her to be fired.

No, not fired... I guess a TV news anchor can still do her job even if she isn't in front of the camera. Kinda like that actor guy who was in all those movies but was never seen on screen.


Did you even pay attention to what was written?

"Hi Jennifer,

It's unusual that I see your morning show, but I did so for a very short time today. I was surprised indeed to witness that your physical condition hasn't improved for many years. Surely you don't consider yourself a suitable example for this community's young people, girls in particular. Obesity is one of the worst choices a person can make and one of the most dangerous habits to maintain. I leave you this note hoping that you'll reconsider your responsibility as a public personality to present and promote a health lifestyle."

Yeah, that totally says "resign fatty"
2012-10-02 02:33:31 PM  
1 votes:

Wolf892: Yeah, she's way off base. The letter was polite, and discussed an issue that is a real problem in the west right now. Instead of simply replying to him privatly, or even better just ignoring it...she is now a rally point for those who've jumped on the "fat acceptance" movement. But it's wrong to accept you are fat. Fat is unhealthy and it takes its toll not only on the individual but on society as well as we have to cover those health costs...
She is a public figure, and she is obese...and traditionally, little girls see the women on tv as role models, especially the ones with a professional job. So, yes, the message is that fat is ok.

She needs to not accept it, and hit the gym. She can afford it.


Speeding is unhealthy... fire anyone with speeding tickets? It's just accepting of their poor dangerous driving.
Depression is unhealthy... fire anyone with clinical depression?
Diabetes is unhealthy... fire anyone with diabetes?
2012-10-02 02:32:21 PM  
1 votes:
All the comments supporting her on that page are so full of rainbows and unicorns. Someone needs to start trolling that.

Letter was not bullying, she just wanted to bring attention to her fat ass being fat.

Go be fat somewhere else.
2012-10-02 02:25:59 PM  
1 votes:
That would be a very bad place to get the news if all she does is talk about her personal life. I mean, from the clip she said the guy doesn't watch her show, and knows nothing about her. Geez, take it as a wake-up call and hit the gym if you want to tell this guy off properly.
/assuming it was a guy. girls can get pretty catty too
2012-10-02 02:02:58 PM  
1 votes:
So I guess she is going to stay fat?

/not bullying
2012-10-02 01:41:42 PM  
1 votes:
I'm no lightweight; I've received my share of "fat jokes" just as I dole out as many "blonde jokes".

With all that being said, I think the original letter was very concise and to the point. And while I don't necessarily agree with his point of view - really, is her weight that much of a concern for him? Moreso than the hundreds of other "fatties" he and his children see on a daily basis? - I don't see his letter as "bullying" in any way, shape, or form. If he had written to her and been all, "HA HA YOU'RE A FATTIE MCFATTERSON, YOU GIANT COW!" then yes, it would have been bullying. But that letter? No.

Is bullying a major issue in society today? Yes, absolutely. But telling someone an opposing viewpoint from your own and being respectful about it is NOT bullying.
2012-10-02 01:36:27 PM  
1 votes:
Fatty McFatty Fats says "It's ok to be a slob and eat unhealthy, because if someone says anything they are just being a bully. So go ahead and suck down that milkshake and supersize that order."
2012-10-02 01:20:53 PM  
1 votes:
Politely expressing a concern doesn't really equate to bullying. Now if the email said "GET OFF THE SCREEN YOU FATTY FAT BLUBBER MASS OF OBESE VOMIT", then she might have a better case about standing up to bullying.
2012-10-02 01:19:40 PM  
1 votes:
I think it's cool that she turned that negative experience around and did something positive and helpful with it. But was that really bullying? Sounded like the email was the just the typical work of some judgemental fark, bolstered by the relative safety and anonymity of the internet. Polite in tone, yes, but many concern trolls can pull that off.

Still, good on her. And I hope whoever wrote that is embarrassed (which is doubtful).
 
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