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2012-10-02 05:07:22 PM

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Don't ya'all fret none....its still gonna be RED. 

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15/10


It's not ya'all, its y'uns.
 
2012-10-02 05:10:05 PM

justtray: authorizeduser: LOL, I'm going to tour the democracies of the World and demand that they let me vote for their representatives... Might help myself to some entitlement programs, while I'm at it.

The likelihood of you doing that is about the same as the likelihood of voter fraud, which should pretty much just shut you up entirely as it proves your entire position worthless.


You're right; the likelihood of me committing voter fraud is very low, because I have no interest in improving the odds for either of the clowns running. More importantly, most other democracies wouldn't allow me to vote, because I wouldn't have proof of citizenship. I know, a bunch of fascists, amirite?
 
2012-10-02 05:10:15 PM

Leeds:
If this theoretical person is unable to carve out an hour or two over the course of 8 months then it is clear that they would be unable to make it to the polls on election day anyway.

As a result, they are likely voting using an absentee ballot which does not require a photo ID anyway.

Where's the disenfranchisement?


If voting an absentee ballot is as easy as you indicate, then this law is pointless anyway.

So why, then, is it necessary if it serves no practical purpose?
 
2012-10-02 05:10:36 PM
the only way i see this working is if there is an elections bureaucracy that is responsible for sending out voter ID cards to every registered voter at regular intervals.

it would be similar to the PennDOT drivers licenses except that it would have to be totally free (or else it is a poll tax). the additional labor necessary to implement this program would mean thousands of jobs for the state and would cost tens (or hundreds) of millions of tax dollars.

all for the sake of... wait, what were we talking about?
 
2012-10-02 05:10:56 PM

skygod: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: skygod: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: hetheeme: Gotta love the legalization of voter fraud.

God forbid anyone actually have to prove who they are in order to vote.

Actually, I deeply resent the fact that I have to show ID virtually every time I cash a check, use my debit card, or apply for a job. ALL THAT SHOULD BE TOTALLY ANONYMOUS! Voting? Meh. Actually fairly unimportant.

Hey, look at the bright side. You and your retarded buddy's will have 4 more years of those awesome birther email forwards.

???? Do you have, you know, an actual POINT, or are you just babbling to hear yourself?

Well, actually, you know, yes. But it seems to have gone completely over your head. Color me shocked.


Shocked? Really? Because I make fun of the fact that you seem to think I'm a some kind of meme-defined ultra-conservative? Apparently based on your erudite talking-point-based, stereotype-based analysis of what people say?

Idiot. Moron. Dolt.
 
2012-10-02 05:11:13 PM
Then there was the educated Texan from Texas who looked like someone in Technicolor and felt, patriotically, that people of means - decent folk - should be given more votes than drifters, whores, criminals, degenerates, atheists and indecent folk - people without means.
- Catch-22
 
2012-10-02 05:12:31 PM

firefly212: authorizeduser: Aarontology: "Simpson ordered the state not to enforce the photo ID requirement in this year's presidential election but will allow it to go into full effect next year."

Oh, the Republicans are going to be pissed off they're getting what they wanted, but not in time to achieve their disenfranchisement goals.

Yes, because this is the last election, ever.

The problem, like I stated in another post, is I don't think the GOP realizes how many rural people they're going to disenfrachise. This is a good part of their base... in urban areas, within two years, everyone is going to be compliant... this measure is ultimately going to disenfranchise more of their own voters than it will anyone else.


In that case, I applaud the Republicans for putting national interests ahead of party interests.
 
2012-10-02 05:17:58 PM

bhcompy: Fabric_Man: Judge decides illegal immigrants and dead people the poor still allowed to vote in PA

I know it's sarcasm, but still

I never understood this. Why does being poor prohibit you from having a state issued ID?


Poor people tend to move more often because they try to stay ahead of rent increases. Getting a new ID every time you move gets to be both costly and really bothersome. There is also the issue that poor people tend to live in areas that are not close to the offices that issue the IDs. Add this to the poor public transportation making it even harder to get to the place that issues IDs, and you have a prohibitively difficult time keep an up-to-date ID that shows your current address.
 
2012-10-02 05:19:57 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Shocked? Really? Because I make fun of the fact that you seem to think I'm a some kind of meme-defined ultra-conservative? Apparently based on your erudite talking-point-based, stereotype-based analysis of what people say?


The irony of your own apparent irritation at people attempting to generalize, whilst you generalized yourself on the previous page of comments, is just hilarious.
 
2012-10-02 05:21:25 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: As I said: This is what comes from getting your politics, sociology and culture from TV and Internet memes while living in your mom's basement.


Do you have any sort of point, or are you just going to stick with the ad hominem?
 
2012-10-02 05:21:46 PM
Who else is there in PA to vote?
 
2012-10-02 05:23:58 PM

bhcompy: Fabric_Man: Judge decides illegal immigrants and dead people the poor still allowed to vote in PA

I know it's sarcasm, but still

I never understood this. Why does being poor prohibit you from having a state issued ID?


Because replacing a lost ID falls off your list of important things to take care of.
 
2012-10-02 05:24:46 PM

justtray: authorizeduser: AntiNerd: Of course people without what the local official considers "valid ID" will still have to cast a provisional ballot. This will create a lot of uncertainty and confusion which the Republicans are still experts at exploiting. Look for the election to end up in court at the very least.

One thing about it that I found interesting is to see how the vote goes down among provisional ballots. That will settle once and for all just who it is that voter ID laws disenfranchise.

It's pretty obvious who voter ID laws disenfranchise: the deceased, illegal immigrants and otherwise non-citizens... and degenerates who can't be bothered to visit the DMV but, are still expected to be active participants of the electoral system.

Instant ignore list.


:'(
 
2012-10-02 05:29:19 PM

Ehcks: authorizeduser: kronicfeld: No, sorry, you can't throw up eleventh-hour barriers to vote and claim that they won't have a substantial impact.

It's designed to have a substantial impact on voter fraud. I know, I know, voter fraud is like speaking of unicorns - I mean, who would possibly be so deranged as to vote without citizenship or impersonate the deceased. It never has happened and never will happen, because all humans are paragons of integrity.

Well, it never happened in PA, according to the people supporting this law.

To the best of my searching, there have been four cases in the past 12 years where someone in PA tried to vote twice. That's certainly threatening...


As if perpetrators of election fraud are lining up to declare their misdeeds.
 
2012-10-02 05:31:03 PM
duckrabbitmedia.files.wordpress.com

Fark 911-post thread. Nevar forget.
 
2012-10-02 05:32:55 PM

iheartscotch: you should definetly unleash your essence all at once


Highlander 2? I read that in Sean Connery's voice.
 
2012-10-02 05:33:26 PM

authorizeduser: election fraud


Election fraud and voter fraud are two very different things. One exists, and is done by doing things like shorting high turnout black districts on voting machines, or buggering with the final numbers through a backdoor in the program that counts the votes. The other is done with a massive level of falsified paperwork, intense organization of large numbers of people, all of whom you have to count on not talking and not getting caught, for an insignificant number of votes.

Voter fraud is not a problem. The only really feasible form of voter fraud is absentee fraud- which is in no way addressed by these laws.
 
2012-10-02 05:35:10 PM

d23: authorizeduser: AntiNerd: Of course people without what the local official considers "valid ID" will still have to cast a provisional ballot. This will create a lot of uncertainty and confusion which the Republicans are still experts at exploiting. Look for the election to end up in court at the very least.

One thing about it that I found interesting is to see how the vote goes down among provisional ballots. That will settle once and for all just who it is that voter ID laws disenfranchise.

It's pretty obvious who voter ID laws disenfranchise: the deceased, illegal immigrants and otherwise non-citizens... and degenerates who can't be bothered to visit the DMV but, are still expected to be active participants of the electoral system.

Like degenerates that fought for us in WWII.

Go fark yourself.


A thousand apologies. I had no idea WW2 vets were being denied state-issued ID. I will take your suggestion and fark myself aggressively.
 
2012-10-02 05:40:42 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: skygod: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: skygod: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: hetheeme: Gotta love the legalization of voter fraud.

God forbid anyone actually have to prove who they are in order to vote.

Actually, I deeply resent the fact that I have to show ID virtually every time I cash a check, use my debit card, or apply for a job. ALL THAT SHOULD BE TOTALLY ANONYMOUS! Voting? Meh. Actually fairly unimportant.

Hey, look at the bright side. You and your retarded buddy's will have 4 more years of those awesome birther email forwards.

???? Do you have, you know, an actual POINT, or are you just babbling to hear yourself?

Well, actually, you know, yes. But it seems to have gone completely over your head. Color me shocked.

Shocked? Really? Because I make fun of the fact that you seem to think I'm a some kind of meme-defined ultra-conservative? Apparently based on your erudite talking-point-based, stereotype-based analysis of what people say?

Idiot. Moron. Dolt.


The truth will set you free. (R)etard.
 
2012-10-02 05:50:28 PM

Leeds: coeyagi: He doesn't watch news and is bed-ridden much of the time.

Your grandfather is bedridden and you said that you don't allow him a tv, a radio or newspapers? You are nothing short of a monster.

I'd slap you in the face if I ever came across you on the street. You should be locked up you evil, evil biatch.


So you're saying you got nothing. Nothing addressing the fact that this law is unwarranted because there is no evidence of voter fraud.

Why post 100 times when you can just say that?
 
2012-10-02 05:51:11 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: bhcompy: Fabric_Man: Judge decides illegal immigrants and dead people the poor still allowed to vote in PA

I know it's sarcasm, but still

I never understood this. Why does being poor prohibit you from having a state issued ID?

It doesn't. Except for the $5 or $10 the local DMV may charge. Horrors! Some pooooor person might have to give up a couple of packs of smokes to get one. Or just - for just one example - go to any of three dozen or so churches and other aid groups in my small area of Orange County who HAVE PROGRAMS TO HELP HOMELESS PEOPLE GET OFFICIAL STATE-ISSUED IDENTIFICATION SO AS TO OBTAIN BENEFITS (what one of my homeless friends actually did last week.)

But it is so much easier and satisfying to hysterically scream "Ebil-Republikkkans hate poooor peeeeoooppllllleeee!" It is also a super-duper-convenient strawman horse for liberals to flog to distract attention away from all the (deceased / non-citizen) people voting for their candidates.


I lived in SoCal for 40 years. For the 22 years I was eligible to vote, I was asked for ID at the poll every single time. I was turned away a few times for forgetting my wallet, and had to go back if I wanted to vote in that election. At the time, I was a registered republican.
 
2012-10-02 05:53:31 PM

Leeds: IlGreven: Leeds: IlGreven: bhcompy: Fabric_Man: Judge decides illegal immigrants and dead people the poor still allowed to vote in PA

I know it's sarcasm, but still

I never understood this. Why does being poor prohibit you from having a state issued ID?

Er, um, it costs money they don't have?

Yep, that's the democrat's argument. The free ID's will cost the poor more money than they have.

You mean the "free ID" that requires a check or money order to obtain?

No, I mean the free ID that's free, you ignorant slut.


Problem is that even the "free ID" costs money to get. If you don't have a birth certificate and were born in Missouri, but currently live in another state, then it will cost you $20 and a number of weeks of time to obtain a certified copy of your birth certificate. If getting a certified copy of your birth certificate is going to be requirement to get an ID, then that cost also must be paid by the state for Voter ID not to be an illegal poll tax.

Voter ID laws only purpose is to disenfranchise voters that tend to vote Democrat. 

/You naive person who has too much sexual intercourse.
 
2012-10-02 05:59:25 PM
If you're going to vote under an assumed name, why not just fill out phony registrations on the Internet, have them mail you a ballot to a phony address, and then vote as many times as you want through the mail?

Why don't Republicans want to stop the fraud that occurs with advance voting? Why are they only concerned with people in this country without physical IDs that show up at the polls to vote?

/Difficulty: be honest.
 
2012-10-02 06:00:18 PM
DEEZ NUTS TPOC!
 
2012-10-02 06:07:52 PM

Joe Blowme: coeyagi: Marine1: Joe Blowme: Valid photo identification is required for the things that follow:
adopt a pet -

don't know
purchase a home
purchase an automobile -
no - not if paying cash and less than $15,000
purchase a gun -
don't know
obtain a bank account
obtain a credit card -
no
obtain a passport -
don't know
write a check -
no
make a credit card purchase -
no
apply for a loan to purchase anything
to prove your age
to get married -
no
to receive a marriage license -
no
to drive
to buy a house \ same
to close on a house / thing
to get medical care -
no
to get on a plane
to get insurance on anything -
no
to get a job -
no
to get a post office box -
don't know
to get a hunting license -
don't know
to get a fishing license -
don't think so
to get a business license -
don't know
to cash a paycheck -
don't know
rent an apartment -
no
rent a hotel room -
no
rent a car
rent furniture -
don't know
rent tools and equipment -
don't know
receive welfare -
don't know
receive social security -
don't know
receive food stamps -
don't know
buy cigarettes -
no
buy alcohol -
no
buy a bus ticket -
don't know
buy a cell phone -
no
buy any antihistimine
go in to a casino -
no
go in to a bar -
no
go to college -
don't know
have your water turned on -
no
have your electricity turned on -
no
have your cable turned on -
no
have your gas turned on -
no
obtain trash pick up service -
no
pick up a package from the post office -
no
pick up a package from fed ex -
no
pick up a package from ups -
no
pick up a prescription -
no

So the people without id to vote never do any of these thigs either, right?

But, but, poor people never do any of that...

It's beautiful when trolls / low-information voters internet fist-bump.

As oppsoed to what? Ignore facts like you? I realise this is FARK but why do you hate facts? Which one is wrong?



as a PA resident, i find your list LOL
 
2012-10-02 06:08:06 PM

simkatu: Leeds: IlGreven: Leeds: IlGreven: bhcompy: Fabric_Man: Judge decides illegal immigrants and dead people the poor still allowed to vote in PA

I know it's sarcasm, but still

I never understood this. Why does being poor prohibit you from having a state issued ID?

Er, um, it costs money they don't have?

Yep, that's the democrat's argument. The free ID's will cost the poor more money than they have.

You mean the "free ID" that requires a check or money order to obtain?

No, I mean the free ID that's free, you ignorant slut.

Problem is that even the "free ID" costs money to get. If you don't have a birth certificate and were born in Missouri, but currently live in another state, then it will cost you $20 and a number of weeks of time to obtain a certified copy of your birth certificate. If getting a certified copy of your birth certificate is going to be requirement to get an ID, then that cost also must be paid by the state for Voter ID not to be an illegal poll tax.

Voter ID laws only purpose is to disenfranchise voters that tend to vote Democrat. 

/You naive person who has too much sexual intercourse.


PA DOT Requirements for Voter ID (none of these requirements costs anything)

Persons who want the new Department of State Voter ID will need to provide their

Name
Address
Date of Birth
Social Security number (If the customer has been issued an SSN)
County
Previous name and/or address if changed in the past 12 months.

The applicant must fill out a Department of State application form and sign an oath/affirmation that they are a registered voter and have no other form of identification that can be used for voting. While the person waits, staff at the Driver License Center will contact the Department of State to validate that the person is registered to vote. Once verified, the person will receive the free Voter ID, which is only valid for voting and will be good for 10 years
 

/the more you know
 
2012-10-02 06:12:40 PM

authorizeduser: Ehcks: authorizeduser: kronicfeld: No, sorry, you can't throw up eleventh-hour barriers to vote and claim that they won't have a substantial impact.

It's designed to have a substantial impact on voter fraud. I know, I know, voter fraud is like speaking of unicorns - I mean, who would possibly be so deranged as to vote without citizenship or impersonate the deceased. It never has happened and never will happen, because all humans are paragons of integrity.

Well, it never happened in PA, according to the people supporting this law.

To the best of my searching, there have been four cases in the past 12 years where someone in PA tried to vote twice. That's certainly threatening...

As if perpetrators of election fraud are lining up to declare their misdeeds.


You sound very concerned about this issue authorizeduser.
 
2012-10-02 06:12:45 PM

PA DOT Requirements for Voter ID (none of these requirements costs anything)

Persons who want the new Department of State Voter ID will need to provide their

Name
Address
Date of Birth
Social Security number (If the customer has been issued an SSN)
County
Previous name and/or address if changed in the past 12 months.

The applicant must fill out a Department of State application form and sign an oath/affirmation that they are a registered voter and have no other form of identification that can be used for voting. While the person waits, staff at the Driver License Center will contact the Department of State to validate that the person is registered to vote. Once verified, the person will receive the free Voter ID, which is only valid for voting and will be good for 10 years 

/the more you know


Granted, this is only applicable of the individual has been registed to vote at some point in their lifetime. This is probably the case with most voters, especially the bedridden grandfather further up thread. No need to renew a DL or get a state mantated photo ID.
 
2012-10-02 06:22:38 PM

amoral: bhcompy: Fabric_Man: Judge decides illegal immigrants and dead people the poor still allowed to vote in PA

I know it's sarcasm, but still

I never understood this. Why does being poor prohibit you from having a state issued ID?

Because replacing a lost ID falls off your list of important things to take care of.


Being able to use an EBT card at a strip club is paramount.
 
2012-10-02 06:23:38 PM

KrustyKitten: PA DOT Requirements for Voter ID (none of these requirements costs anything)

Persons who want the new Department of State Voter ID will need to provide their

Name
Address
Date of Birth
Social Security number (If the customer has been issued an SSN)
County
Previous name and/or address if changed in the past 12 months.

The applicant must fill out a Department of State application form and sign an oath/affirmation that they are a registered voter and have no other form of identification that can be used for voting. While the person waits, staff at the Driver License Center will contact the Department of State to validate that the person is registered to vote. Once verified, the person will receive the free Voter ID, which is only valid for voting and will be good for 10 years 

/the more you know

Granted, this is only applicable of the individual has been registed to vote at some point in their lifetime. This is probably the case with most voters, especially the bedridden grandfather further up thread. No need to renew a DL or get a state mantated photo ID.


It seems to be missing the requirements that a) you must get there, which costs you money and b) that you must prove you aren't eligible for a driver's license (i.e., prove that you need the free one).
 
2012-10-02 06:24:54 PM

Giltric: amoral: bhcompy: Fabric_Man: Judge decides illegal immigrants and dead people the poor still allowed to vote in PA

I know it's sarcasm, but still

I never understood this. Why does being poor prohibit you from having a state issued ID?

Because replacing a lost ID falls off your list of important things to take care of.

Being able to use an EBT card at a strip club is paramount.


It's good to see that we're talking about small percentages here as proof that photo ID-less individuals are lazy poon / cigarette / booze hounds.
 
2012-10-02 06:54:53 PM
The thing that people don't understand is that election fraud is ALMOST NEVER THE VOTERS. Ballot box stuffing is done after the polls are closed. I mean, you can buy votes, but this sort of thing won't be stopped by ID laws. There is no real problem that this solves.

These laws are nothing but intimidation tactics.

You never have to prove who you are to have your rights. I was taught that by both parents and teachers in the 1980s. That recently it was said that the difference between free societies with rights and dictatorships was having to carry papers that state that you can do something. I'm sick and tired of the right wing trying to force a police state down my throat.
 
2012-10-02 06:57:29 PM

snocone: It is just so exciting to realize that the next President will be the best liar and election cheater with the most obtuse dogmatic base.

Hooray Freedom and Liberty!


You sound VERY concerned, might I suggest you move to another country? Preferably one with government subsidized bridges for you to live under while you cry "SOSHALIZMS!!" at passer-by's?
 
2012-10-02 07:01:33 PM

Bag of Hammers: snocone: It is just so exciting to realize that the next President will be the best liar and election cheater with the most obtuse dogmatic base.

Hooray Freedom and Liberty!

You sound VERY concerned, might I suggest you move to another country? Preferably one with government subsidized bridges for you to live under while you cry "SOSHALIZMS!!" at passer-by's?


You so crazy.
Might I suggest you learn a thing or so.
 
2012-10-02 07:05:45 PM

goalie_piggy: The troll is strong...


I quite agree, well-played, troll.

7/10
 
2012-10-02 07:08:47 PM

KrustyKitten: PA DOT Requirements for Voter ID (none of these requirements costs anything)

Granted, this is only applicable of the individual has been registed to vote at some point in their lifetime. This is probably the case with most voters, especially the bedridden grandfather further up thread. No need to renew a DL or get a state mantated photo ID.


1) How does a disabled person 30 miles from the DMV get to the DMV for their free Voter ID?

2) How much does it cost taxpayers to give out the Free Voter ID? What is the total cost to taxpayers to fix a problem that doesn't even exist?

3) How many people go to the polls to vote under an assumed name rather than their own?

4) How does this law prevent anyone from just registering under a phony name and completing an advance ballot by mail? Won't all the idiots that were going to the polls to vote illegally, just do the smart thing from now on and get 10 advance ballots sent to their home and just mail them in? Will Voter ID stop even one person that wants to commit voter fraud?

This whole Voter ID is a very expensive non-solution to a problem that doesn't even exist.

/It's sole purpose is to disenfranchise people that tend to vote Democrat.
 
2012-10-02 07:13:43 PM

simkatu: 2) There are lots of people that have voted for years, that will be disenfranchised by many of the Voter ID laws. Many folks don't have copies of their birth certificates or other papers and don't have the money, time, or capability of getting the required documentation to vote.


Well, they can mail their vote in or fill out a provisional ballot then, now can't they?
 
2012-10-02 07:16:26 PM

simkatu: Problem is that even the "free ID" costs money to get. If you don't have a birth certificate and were born in Missouri, but currently live in another state, then it will cost you $20 and a number of weeks of time to obtain a certified copy of your birth certificate. If getting a certified copy of your birth certificate is going to be requirement to get an ID, then that cost also must be paid by the state for Voter ID not to be an illegal poll tax.


Thats awesome. I can imagine a lot of undocumented Barry Obamas asking to get a certified copy of their Birth Certificate..
 
2012-10-02 07:21:38 PM
Just Another OC Homeless Guy:

God damn but you're an idiot. A "right" is something that is non-contextual: It applies to EVERYONE. Voting is therefore a privilege and NOT a right, as it does not apply, for example, to felons and ex-felons. Just this one example shoots down most of your points.

You're even more stupid than your name suggests. Read closely, and learn.

Voting is a right that all adults have in this country, and that ca right cannot be taken away unless you have not fulfilled your obligations as a citizen (i.e. convicted of a criminal act). Under no other circumstance does any adult who is mentally sound (I think you skipped that one) have that right removed.
Also, there are states where ex-felons can indeed vote (38 states and the District of Columbia)
Some can even vote while incarcerated (Maine, Vermont, absentee ballot)
Only 12 states permanently rescind voting rights, and only under certain conditions, depending on the crime committed and other variables. Link

Also.... 2nd amendment guarantees owning a gun but not buying it? So how do you own a gun without buying it? Why I guess you just build one (oh, wait, you need to have a federally approved gunsmith license to do that). Or I guess you could just steal one.

When the second amendment was written, people made weapons themselves. The amendment was created so that soldiers could not come into your house uninvited, and so that the local militia could be called upon in time of need. Read:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

That is the full text. No where in this sentence does it have a provision that grants you full access to trot on down to the local gun shop and buy a weapon. How you get the gun is your business. The amendment simply protects your right to have and keep it.

Yeah, you're an idiot. Go read some farking books and get back to me.

Looks like you might need a few reading lessons yourself. I'll send you a list from my library if you like.
None of the other bullsh*t on that list is a right either. Opening checking accounts, going to college, getting on a plane, none of it. It the same dumb assed list copypasta'd by the same dumb assed freepers who couldn't come up with an original thought if you threatened to kill their entire families.
They are the kings and queens of the FW:FW:FW:FW: brigade, endlessly repeating sh*t they don't even understand across the internet like crickets communicating in the dark with chirps, depending on FoxNoise to tell them what to think because doing it themselves hurts too goddamn much.

Voting is a right, the right of all adult citizens in good standing within society. What the republicans have tried to do is infringe on that right, and this judge b*tchslapped that obvious attempt at disenfranchisement down.
Today is a good day.
 
2012-10-02 07:28:35 PM

rewind2846: Just Another OC Homeless Guy:

God damn but you're an idiot.When the second amendment was written, people made weapons themselves. The amendment was created so that soldiers could not come into your house uninvited, and so that the local militia could be called upon in time of need. Read:
...


I would find it most enlightening to see you make your own flintlock rifle and live through firing it, Daniel.
 
2012-10-02 07:29:46 PM

rewind2846: and this judge b*tchslapped that obvious attempt at disenfranchisement down.


No. The law still stands....the judge basically gave people extra time to go out and get a photo ID that the state issues for free for the next election.
 
2012-10-02 07:32:32 PM

snocone: rewind2846: Just Another OC Homeless Guy:

God damn but you're an idiot.When the second amendment was written, people made weapons themselves. The amendment was created so that soldiers could not come into your house uninvited, and so that the local militia could be called upon in time of need. Read:
...

I would find it most enlightening to see you make your own flintlock rifle and live through firing it, Daniel.


LOL What?
 
2012-10-02 07:38:23 PM

simkatu: KrustyKitten: PA DOT Requirements for Voter ID (none of these requirements costs anything)

Granted, this is only applicable of the individual has been registed to vote at some point in their lifetime. This is probably the case with most voters, especially the bedridden grandfather further up thread. No need to renew a DL or get a state mantated photo ID.

1) How does a disabled person 30 miles from the DMV get to the DMV for their free Voter ID?

2) How much does it cost taxpayers to give out the Free Voter ID? What is the total cost to taxpayers to fix a problem that doesn't even exist?

3) How many people go to the polls to vote under an assumed name rather than their own?

4) How does this law prevent anyone from just registering under a phony name and completing an advance ballot by mail? Won't all the idiots that were going to the polls to vote illegally, just do the smart thing from now on and get 10 advance ballots sent to their home and just mail them in? Will Voter ID stop even one person that wants to commit voter fraud?

This whole Voter ID is a very expensive non-solution to a problem that doesn't even exist.

/It's sole purpose is to disenfranchise people that tend to vote Democrat.


5) What the hell is the point of a picture ID that says that you promise that's what your name is?
Instead of using a utility bill to vote, you use a utility bill to get a picture ID to vote. How does this prevent voter fraud?

It's an extra step that has no purpose besides causing people problems.
 
2012-10-02 07:40:38 PM

DeaH: bhcompy: Fabric_Man: Judge decides illegal immigrants and dead people the poor still allowed to vote in PA

I know it's sarcasm, but still

I never understood this. Why does being poor prohibit you from having a state issued ID?

Poor people tend to move more often because they try to stay ahead of rent increases. Getting a new ID every time you move gets to be both costly and really bothersome. There is also the issue that poor people tend to live in areas that are not close to the offices that issue the IDs. Add this to the poor public transportation making it even harder to get to the place that issues IDs, and you have a prohibitively difficult time keep an up-to-date ID that shows your current address.


Moving means you cannot vote unless you update your voter registration...because otherwise you would be voting in a precinct for people who don't represent you. Are you saying these folks take the time and effort to update their registration (along with all the other tasks incident to having a new address), but cannot get a free ID after they've moved?
 
2012-10-02 07:41:31 PM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: 5) What the hell is the point of a picture ID that says that you promise that's what your name is?
Instead of using a utility bill to vote, you use a utility bill to get a picture ID to vote. How does this prevent voter fraud?

It's an extra step that has no purpose besides causing people problems.


You're preaching to the choir here.

We're talking about the same form of identification that teenagers make fake versions of to get booze.

And like I said, in some states, an NRA ID is a valid form of ID (it has no picture btw) but a student ID doesn't (they usually do have pictures).

It's all a big Republican scam and hopefully more of it gets exposed as time goes on.

But hey, at least the GOP can feel good about themselves, and isn't that really what counts?
 
2012-10-02 07:42:08 PM

snocone: rewind2846: Just Another OC Homeless Guy:

God damn but you're an idiot.When the second amendment was written, people made weapons themselves. The amendment was created so that soldiers could not come into your house uninvited, and so that the local militia could be called upon in time of need. Read:
...

I would find it most enlightening to see you make your own flintlock rifle and live through firing it, Daniel.


If I were living on the frontier in the 1700's that might have been a necessity.
Look through a sears catalog from around 1900... people made their own stuff, from clothing to tools. The catalog has gun kits, forges, everything a person needed to make their own weapons... and remember this was just over 100 years ago. No supermarkets, few hardware stores outside of larger towns and cities, and even fewer gun shops.


Giltric: rewind2846: and this judge b*tchslapped that obvious attempt at disenfranchisement down.

No. The law still stands....the judge basically gave people extra time to go out and get a photo ID that the state issues for free for the next election.


The law wasn't what was disenfranchising people as much as it was the timetable, and the judge knew it. Purposely putting this law into effect so close to an election can only be for the purpose of keeping the "wrong" voters away from the polls. Had there really been an issue with voter fraud, the law could have been written and enacted anytime. There are a whole two years between elections.
 
2012-10-02 07:45:37 PM

Mrtraveler01: The Jami Turman Fan Club: 5) What the hell is the point of a picture ID that says that you promise that's what your name is?
Instead of using a utility bill to vote, you use a utility bill to get a picture ID to vote. How does this prevent voter fraud?

It's an extra step that has no purpose besides causing people problems.

You're preaching to the choir here.

We're talking about the same form of identification that teenagers make fake versions of to get booze.

And like I said, in some states, an NRA ID is a valid form of ID (it has no picture btw) but a student ID doesn't (they usually do have pictures).

It's all a big Republican scam and hopefully more of it gets exposed as time goes on.

But hey, at least the GOP can feel good about themselves, and isn't that really what counts?


What states do they take an NRA ID as official ID? Do you have a link?

And you already answered the question of why they dont take college IDs in your previous statement of people forging IDs to buy booze.
 
2012-10-02 07:47:15 PM

rewind2846: Giltric: rewind2846: and this judge b*tchslapped that obvious attempt at disenfranchisement down.

No. The law still stands....the judge basically gave people extra time to go out and get a photo ID that the state issues for free for the next election.

The law wasn't what was disenfranchising people as much as it was the timetable, and the judge knew it. Purposely putting this law into effect so close to an election can only be for the purpose of keeping the "wrong" voters away from the polls. Had there really been an issue with voter fraud, the law could have been written and enacted anytime. There are a whole two years between elections


They wanted to make sure that it was in place so Romney can win PA. 

Mike Turazi is a facist piece of shiat as far as I'm concerned.
 
2012-10-02 07:49:42 PM

rewind2846: The law wasn't what was disenfranchising people as much as it was the timetable


People have 9 months to get ready for a baby but 9 months time isn't enough time to get a picture ID?

Yeah sure.....pack that bong with more excuses and pass it to me please.

maybe thats why so many people shiat out a baby in the high school restroom...not enough time to prepare.
 
2012-10-02 07:50:48 PM

Giltric: What states do they take an NRA ID as official ID? Do you have a link?


My mistake. I see that they meant to say a concealed carry permit:

Giltric: And you already answered the question of why they dont take college IDs in your previous statement of people forging IDs to buy booze.


So they can forge a college ID but they can't forge a State ID? That's some ironclad logic you're going with there.
 
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