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2012-10-02 12:04:10 PM

what_now: Actual attempted voter fraud that I, a poll worker, encountered:

I was working at the election checking people off as they came in to vote. One fellow- who was nasty to begin with- came in to vote and was FLABBERGASTED that I wouldn't give him a ballot. He insisted he lived "just down the street", which is absolutely accurate...but in a different town.

He tried to show me his drivers license to "prove I am who I say I am", but 1) I'm not the person to dispute address with and 2) he freely admitted that he lived in Cambridge, not Somerville.

By his reasoning, he should be able to vote "wherever", because he was only voting for the state wide election.


I'm sort of on his side.
 
2012-10-02 12:04:13 PM

fireclown: PonceAlyosha: It is a poll tax and thus violates the constitution. The right to vote is contingent on showing up, nothing else.

The right to vote HOW many times?


Once. We rely on honor to make sure all but the most desperate vote fraudsters do their duty but once. Combined with registration and the stiff penalties, it has worked for several hundred years. Voter IDs are only for one purpose: To make it hard enough for some low-income, mostly democratic voters to say "to hell with it."
 
2012-10-02 12:04:24 PM

slykens1: I'm still struggling to understand how you can get through life without a photo ID in today's world - that is to say not needing one at least once every four years, our validity period in PA.


That argument becomes bullshiat in this context when you consider that most of the original voter ID laws proposed carefully picked which IDs were OK and which were not. Many original drafts explicitly excluded student IDs, regardless of photo or expiration date; and explicitly included concealed carry permits, hunting licenses, and NRA membership cards, despite lack of photo and in some cases expiration.
 
2012-10-02 12:04:58 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Giltric: 2wolves: Giltric: Aarontology: Giltric: How do you get a job without proper ID? How do you cash the check the job gives you without ID?

The answer to both: Under the table jobs that pay straight cash.

They're pretty common.

Tax cheats?

Off shore accounts?

So you are willing to let people break the law over taxes but in small amounts?

Those 100 million tax cheats start adding up......

What if someone was on probabtion and they violated probation by using the internet....you willing to give him a pass...?

What the fark does this have to do with anything?

You asked how people can get by without ID, and now you know.


The law is the law or we can look the other way.....its all relative.
 
2012-10-02 12:05:10 PM

tortilla burger: Anything that trolls the right wing is cool with me


THIS
 
2012-10-02 12:05:18 PM
I'm a little scared to look at the comments section of my local news site on this...

maybe just a peek:

"Most opposed to Voter ID know that cheating is critical to DemocRATS insuring victory. Such corruption!!!!Par for the course-winning-the cause-is far more important than the integrity required to win by the book!! This importance of the cause is illustrated clearly by 2 women-Elizabeth Warren in Mass. and Hillary Clinton!! Eventually, Voter ID laws will be fixed so they pass Constitutional muster."

"So thanks to the democrats , minorities can not be expected to do antthing on their own? They need government help with absolutly everything. Work,school,life,birth control,id's,etc."

"People wake up! We have allowed the wrong people to get in control of our country. The gay/atheists have positioned themselves in positions of power (mayors, judges, politicians) and have destroyed this country."

"Really? This is reverse racism......against those who want honesty and integrity in our election process."

"The USA is going to H fast,, Our country that was fought for by true Americans is a place of the past, Read your history folks, Roman Empire,, Its over,,,, Read your Bible ,, The book your Grandparents used and lived by,, That this Liberal sociery threw away... We as a country are lost"
 
2012-10-02 12:05:45 PM

flux: Leeds: Oh my goodness, what if they forget where to vote, or their car breaks down or they hit a deer on the way to the polling stations? We clearly need to send drivers out to pick up every resident in the state to make sure that they get to the polls on time!!! Democrats actually believe this crap

I'd like to hear a good argument why election day shouldn't be a mandated national holiday. Give everyone the day off to vote and volunteer at polling locations. Why not?


I agree; I'll gladly trade Columbus Day for Election Day as a national holiday; Or at least a half day off so you can go vote.
 
2012-10-02 12:06:04 PM

coeyagi: Giltric: coeyagi: Giltric: King Something: OhLuverly: Haven't been following this much so if someone would please clear this up, how is requiring a state issued ID to vote a barrier to poor folks voting?

The IDs required are not free; hence, it's a poll tax.

The free IDs have already been cited via articles and PENNDOTs own website....care to try again?

Can you get them by sitting in your house and not spending money on a) birth certificate copy b) bus fare?

People are usually highly motivated to get free stuff....look at how much time effort and planning is put into robbing a clothing store with organized crews of unemployed democrats.....

Getting off your ass to get a job or a free ID is hard though....so lets go spend 5 hours striiping all the wire and copper pipe out of an abandoned home so we can get 14$ at the scrap yard.

Ok, so where is the problem? 0.00003% of votes from 2003-2007. Where is the F*CKING problem?


300 million guns in the United states and 30k deaths from guns including suicide......where is the problem?
 
2012-10-02 12:06:17 PM

thornhill: Isn't this actually great news for the GOP? Now they can claim they were cheated out of the election by not just skewed polls, but also voter fraud.


Didn't Al Gore invent that?
 
2012-10-02 12:06:34 PM

iheartscotch: someonelse: iheartscotch: The actual issue is people that live in two states. New York and Florida for example. It is POSSIBLE that a snow bird could POTENTIALLY vote in both states. I know, I know; it's a bit of a stretch; but that doesn't change the fact that it could happen.

Voter ID laws don't fix that.

Never said they did; I feel that each state should compare voter rolls and actually investigate duplicates.

As to the voter id issue; you are now required to show an employer your social security card and your id. You are required to show your social security card if you rent a house. You are required to produce your id if you are pulled over. You are required to produce your id if you expect to pay instate tuition at a college.

A lot of important things require Ids; I understand it is possible to loose your Id; I understand it is hard to replace a lost id. I feel that the most important right as an American citizen should be protected from fraud as much as possible. Would you be in favor of blood scans to prove identity as aposed to a physical Id?


I am in favor of showing a shred of evidence that in-person voter fraud is actually a serious problem before spending tons of money to fix it. A fiscally conservative approach, believe it or not.
 
2012-10-02 12:06:40 PM

HotWingConspiracy: You asked how people can get by without ID, and now you know.


These people don't really want to know how someone can go through life without jumping through all the government mandated ID hoops they have to. They just want to biatch and disenfranchise people. Notice they always change the subject after their "BUT HOW CAN..." questions are answered.
 
2012-10-02 12:06:49 PM

flux: slykens1: I'm still struggling to understand how you can get through life without a photo ID in today's world - that is to say not needing one at least once every four years, our validity period in PA.

You know, sometimes I struggle to understand how people can get through life without legs. Having legs that I use everyday, it's hard for me to imagine life without them. And that's why resist all efforts to make polling places wheelchair accessible.

Leeds: Oh my goodness, what if they forget where to vote, or their car breaks down or they hit a deer on the way to the polling stations? We clearly need to send drivers out to pick up every resident in the state to make sure that they get to the polls on time!!! Democrats actually believe this crap

I'd like to hear a good argument why election day shouldn't be a mandated national holiday. Give everyone the day off to vote and volunteer at polling locations. Why not?


That's a debate that I'd like to witness. On the surface, it seems a pretty good idea.
 
2012-10-02 12:06:58 PM

Giltric: HotWingConspiracy: Giltric: 2wolves: Giltric: Aarontology: Giltric: How do you get a job without proper ID? How do you cash the check the job gives you without ID?

The answer to both: Under the table jobs that pay straight cash.

They're pretty common.

Tax cheats?

Off shore accounts?

So you are willing to let people break the law over taxes but in small amounts?

Those 100 million tax cheats start adding up......

What if someone was on probabtion and they violated probation by using the internet....you willing to give him a pass...?

What the fark does this have to do with anything?

You asked how people can get by without ID, and now you know.

The law is the law or we can look the other way.....its all relative.


Yeah. You asked how people can get by without ID, and now you know.

Everything else is noise.
 
2012-10-02 12:07:14 PM

Giltric: coeyagi: Giltric: coeyagi: Giltric: King Something: OhLuverly: Haven't been following this much so if someone would please clear this up, how is requiring a state issued ID to vote a barrier to poor folks voting?

The IDs required are not free; hence, it's a poll tax.

The free IDs have already been cited via articles and PENNDOTs own website....care to try again?

Can you get them by sitting in your house and not spending money on a) birth certificate copy b) bus fare?

People are usually highly motivated to get free stuff....look at how much time effort and planning is put into robbing a clothing store with organized crews of unemployed democrats.....

Getting off your ass to get a job or a free ID is hard though....so lets go spend 5 hours striiping all the wire and copper pipe out of an abandoned home so we can get 14$ at the scrap yard.

Ok, so where is the problem? 0.00003% of votes from 2003-2007. Where is the F*CKING problem?

300 million guns in the United states and 30k deaths from guns including suicide......where is the problem?


A) Deflection.
B) 0.01% is much greater than 0.00003%
 
2012-10-02 12:07:14 PM

IronTom: overwhelmingly


multimedia.billybrew.com
 
2012-10-02 12:08:52 PM

IronTom: Americans overwhelmingly want Voter ID to help prevent fraud.


To say there is fraud, you must first prove it exists.
The judge wasn't convinced.

/Don't like it? Get a lawyer and take your own first-hand knowledge of in-person voting fraud in Pennsylvania to that judge. Quick!
 
2012-10-02 12:09:05 PM

hetheeme: Rwa2play: hetheeme: Gotta love the legalization of voter fraud.

God forbid anyone actually have to prove who they are in order to vote.

Yes because it's Democrats AND ONLY Democrats that commit voter fraud.

Maybe you should try using Google before you say something this asinine.

Voter fraud help whoever has control of the political machine in the area. If Republicans win due to fraud, then throw those bastards out as well. The machine in PA is solid blue, so allowing fraud there helps Democrats out more than it would Republicans.


Again, you should try using Google before you say something this asinine.
 
2012-10-02 12:09:08 PM

Leeds: That's a debate that I'd like to witness. On the surface, it seems a pretty good idea.


Except that even on a national holiday, there are still places open - gas stations, restaurants, convenience stores, grocery stores, etc. And who works on holidays? Poor people who really need the overtime.
Make it a two-day holiday with a requirement that no worker can work both days, and you'd have something though.
 
2012-10-02 12:09:14 PM

SilentStrider: This headline sucks, mine was better.


Well bless your heart.
 
2012-10-02 12:09:37 PM

Brontes: Making it harder for people to vote vs. the extremely small amount of voter fraud that occurs is just not a good trade off.


Considering Presidential elections have come down to literally a handful of votes in at least three cases, it's not the overall amount of voting fraud that's the problem, it's the strategic and intentional use of it in a limited role that's dangerous.
 
2012-10-02 12:09:37 PM

coeyagi: Giltric: coeyagi: Giltric: coeyagi: Giltric: King Something: OhLuverly: Haven't been following this much so if someone would please clear this up, how is requiring a state issued ID to vote a barrier to poor folks voting?

The IDs required are not free; hence, it's a poll tax.

The free IDs have already been cited via articles and PENNDOTs own website....care to try again?

Can you get them by sitting in your house and not spending money on a) birth certificate copy b) bus fare?

People are usually highly motivated to get free stuff....look at how much time effort and planning is put into robbing a clothing store with organized crews of unemployed democrats.....

Getting off your ass to get a job or a free ID is hard though....so lets go spend 5 hours striiping all the wire and copper pipe out of an abandoned home so we can get 14$ at the scrap yard.

Ok, so where is the problem? 0.00003% of votes from 2003-2007. Where is the F*CKING problem?

300 million guns in the United states and 30k deaths from guns including suicide......where is the problem?

A) Deflection.
B) 0.01% is much greater than 0.00003%


Also:

C) So you admit there's no problem by linking this to something you perceive isn't problematic.
D) There has never been a margin that razor thin where voter fraud has decided an election, also, 30K people die, they're not coming back.
 
2012-10-02 12:10:00 PM
Not that I disagree in principle with ID EVENTUALLY being required to vote, but why is the party of "small government" creating more red tape when so little actual fraud exists?

And why is the party that cries "foul" when ANY inconvenience is imposed on the RIGHT to "keep and bear" arms (an activity that kills thousands yearly) deadset on putting up roadblocks to the RIGHT to vote?

Can't the same counter-arguments be used? Won't real fraudsters find a way to fake ID's, just like "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns", and "he would've stabbed someone if he didn't have a gun because criminals will find a way"? 

I guess it's kind of like being a fundamentalist Christian who's supposed to "love thy neighbor" but at the same time froths at the mouth about Ayn Rand and how poor people are just "lazy" and "entitled" socialists who should be allowed to die.
 
2012-10-02 12:10:09 PM
a very simple way to prevent voter fraud. finger/thumbprint id scanners at every poll station. We would have a nationwide database and compare to see if you have voted twice.

no names, or addresses taken. it would simply compare your print to see if you voted already. 

/we should have the technology to do this, right?
 
2012-10-02 12:10:54 PM

theknuckler_33: hetheeme: The machine in PA is solid blue, so allowing fraud there helps Democrats out more than it would Republicans.

Again, you should try using Google before you say something this asinine.


cache.blippitt.com
That's pretty blue.
 
2012-10-02 12:10:58 PM
How long does it normally take the DMV to process an application for a photo ID?
 
2012-10-02 12:11:23 PM

ChipNASA: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x245]

Don't ya'all fret none....its still gonna be RED. 

[www.dickdestiny.com image 448x292]

15/10


Except where most of the population, businesses and money are.
 
2012-10-02 12:11:43 PM

someonelse: I am in favor of showing a shred of evidence that in-person voter fraud is actually a serious problem before spending tons of money to fix it. A fiscally conservative approach, believe it or not.


But you see, this is the Grover Norquist model of bleeding the government beast dead.
That these voter IDs cost taxpayer money is exactly the point.
 
2012-10-02 12:12:00 PM

coeyagi: coeyagi: Giltric: coeyagi: Giltric: coeyagi: Giltric: King Something: OhLuverly: Haven't been following this much so if someone would please clear this up, how is requiring a state issued ID to vote a barrier to poor folks voting?

The IDs required are not free; hence, it's a poll tax.

The free IDs have already been cited via articles and PENNDOTs own website....care to try again?

Can you get them by sitting in your house and not spending money on a) birth certificate copy b) bus fare?

People are usually highly motivated to get free stuff....look at how much time effort and planning is put into robbing a clothing store with organized crews of unemployed democrats.....

Getting off your ass to get a job or a free ID is hard though....so lets go spend 5 hours striiping all the wire and copper pipe out of an abandoned home so we can get 14$ at the scrap yard.

Ok, so where is the problem? 0.00003% of votes from 2003-2007. Where is the F*CKING problem?

300 million guns in the United states and 30k deaths from guns including suicide......where is the problem?

A) Deflection.
B) 0.01% is much greater than 0.00003%

Also:

C) So you admit there's no problem by linking this to something you perceive isn't problematic.
D) There has never been a margin that razor thin where voter fraud has decided an election, also, 30K people die, they're not coming back.


But they may be voting somewhere....
 
2012-10-02 12:12:17 PM
I see there is an avalanche of liberal derp...

/still trying to figure out why Texas was struck down
//Free ID and a free ride to go get it...
 
2012-10-02 12:12:33 PM

theknuckler_33: Election workers will still be allowed to ask voters for a valid photo ID, but people without it can vote on a regular voting machine in the polling place and would not have to cast a provisional ballot or prove their identity to election officials after the election.

So, do I refuse to show my ID if I am asked?


Refuse to show ID and call an election observer to report the incident.
 
2012-10-02 12:12:45 PM

Marine1: You know... let's take a look at all you need an ID for:

Driving
Purchasing a firearm
Carrying a firearm
Cashing a check
Opening a bank account
Using a debit or credit card
Opening a line of credit
Boarding a commercial flight
Going to college (you may or may not need one for registration, but they will make you get one from them when you're on campus)
Getting a passport
Buying tobacco
Buying alcohol
Buying medical marijuana (in states that allow it)
Going over the border into Canada or Mexico
Transferring large amounts of cash (thank the PATRIOT Act for that)
Apply for a job at a government institution (they're going to want to make sure you're here legally)
Being shown an apartment you're considering a lease on

With all of that in mind... just who the fark is going around without an ID? Forget whether or not these people could vote if that law had been passed... how much of a disadvantage are these folks at in their every day lives without one? How about we focus on that?


How about we actually focus on the fact that only one of the things on your list is a Constitutional right, as is voting. You know, because this about rights not just doing things many of which can be done on any given day, which voting can't. And getting an ID can't, as most state offices aren't open evenings, or late on Saturdays, or at all on Sundays. so your list isn't really relevant to having an ID to Vote. (With the possible exception of buying a fire arm.)
 
2012-10-02 12:13:01 PM

Giltric: coeyagi: coeyagi: Giltric: coeyagi: Giltric: coeyagi: Giltric: King Something: OhLuverly: Haven't been following this much so if someone would please clear this up, how is requiring a state issued ID to vote a barrier to poor folks voting?

The IDs required are not free; hence, it's a poll tax.

The free IDs have already been cited via articles and PENNDOTs own website....care to try again?

Can you get them by sitting in your house and not spending money on a) birth certificate copy b) bus fare?

People are usually highly motivated to get free stuff....look at how much time effort and planning is put into robbing a clothing store with organized crews of unemployed democrats.....

Getting off your ass to get a job or a free ID is hard though....so lets go spend 5 hours striiping all the wire and copper pipe out of an abandoned home so we can get 14$ at the scrap yard.

Ok, so where is the problem? 0.00003% of votes from 2003-2007. Where is the F*CKING problem?

300 million guns in the United states and 30k deaths from guns including suicide......where is the problem?

A) Deflection.
B) 0.01% is much greater than 0.00003%

Also:

C) So you admit there's no problem by linking this to something you perceive isn't problematic.
D) There has never been a margin that razor thin where voter fraud has decided an election, also, 30K people die, they're not coming back.

But they may be voting somewhere....


And congrats, Mensa candidate, you just described "election fraud", not "voter fraud".
 
2012-10-02 12:13:15 PM

ltdanman44: a very simple way to prevent voter fraud. finger/thumbprint id scanners at every poll station. We would have a nationwide database and compare to see if you have voted twice.


It's hard enough to get people to vote once. Implementing a massive system to stop them from voting twice is a solution to a non-problem.
 
2012-10-02 12:13:17 PM

ltdanman44: a very simple way to prevent voter fraud. finger/thumbprint id scanners at every poll station. We would have a nationwide database and compare to see if you have voted twice.

no names, or addresses taken. it would simply compare your print to see if you voted already. 

/we should have the technology to do this, right?


And hey, since we've got the thumbprints anyway, let's just run them against the FBI's database. Why, it'll help catch criminals, and don't you want that? Or at least, it'll help catch potential suspects.
And of course, since we're not collecting names or addresses, we need some way to nab those suspects, so let's station a police officer next to each scanner. You put your thumb on the scanner, a red light flashes, and you get immediately tased and arrested. It'll help prevent terrorism, too.
 
2012-10-02 12:13:40 PM

Theaetetus: theknuckler_33: hetheeme: The machine in PA is solid blue, so allowing fraud there helps Democrats out more than it would Republicans.

Again, you should try using Google before you say something this asinine.

[cache.blippitt.com image 365x285]
That's pretty blue.


I thought Diebold changed the name of their voting systems unit? They didn't want their crappy voting devices to sully their reputation for ATMs.
 
2012-10-02 12:14:06 PM

Maul555: I see there is an avalanche of liberal derp...

/still trying to figure out why Texas was struck down
//Free ID and a free ride to go get it...


Was it struck down completely, or was implementation delayed?
 
2012-10-02 12:14:06 PM

Maul555: I see there is an avalanche of liberal derp...

/still trying to figure out why Texas was struck down
//Free ID and a free ride to go get it...


Liberal derp?

National Education Rankings 2008:

Blue States: Average of 20.5
Red States: Average of 32.4.

Derp away, red state derper.
 
2012-10-02 12:14:46 PM

Maul555: I see there is an avalanche of liberal derp...

/still trying to figure out why Texas was struck down
//Free ID and a free ride to go get it...


If the government provides something, it isn't "free."
Do you also own a "free" mobility scooter?
 
2012-10-02 12:15:21 PM

Enigmamf: Theaetetus: theknuckler_33: hetheeme: The machine in PA is solid blue, so allowing fraud there helps Democrats out more than it would Republicans.

Again, you should try using Google before you say something this asinine.

[cache.blippitt.com image 365x285]
That's pretty blue.

I thought Diebold changed the name of their voting systems unit? They didn't want their crappy voting devices to sully their reputation for ATMs.


Right, they're now known as Xe Services.
 
2012-10-02 12:15:39 PM

Wolf_Cub: Marine1: You know... let's take a look at all you need an ID for:

Driving
Purchasing a firearm
Carrying a firearm
Cashing a check
Opening a bank account
Using a debit or credit card
Opening a line of credit
Boarding a commercial flight
Going to college (you may or may not need one for registration, but they will make you get one from them when you're on campus)
Getting a passport
Buying tobacco
Buying alcohol
Buying medical marijuana (in states that allow it)
Going over the border into Canada or Mexico
Transferring large amounts of cash (thank the PATRIOT Act for that)
Apply for a job at a government institution (they're going to want to make sure you're here legally)
Being shown an apartment you're considering a lease on

With all of that in mind... just who the fark is going around without an ID? Forget whether or not these people could vote if that law had been passed... how much of a disadvantage are these folks at in their every day lives without one? How about we focus on that?

How about we actually focus on the fact that only one of the things on your list is a Constitutional right, as is voting. You know, because this about rights not just doing things many of which can be done on any given day, which voting can't. And getting an ID can't, as most state offices aren't open evenings, or late on Saturdays, or at all on Sundays. so your list isn't really relevant to having an ID to Vote. (With the possible exception of buying a fire arm.)


Then forget about the law, as I said, and fix it to where these people CAN get them.
 
2012-10-02 12:15:51 PM
I love how liberals just assume that poor people and minorities are too stupid to get a free ID card.
 
2012-10-02 12:15:51 PM

dustygrimp: Because the .00004% of votes cast that were proven fraudulent over the last 4 years is a big problem.


Margin of victory for Kennedy over Nixon, 1960: 0.013%.
Margin of victory for Bush over Gore, 2000: 0.002%.

It doesn't necessarily take much to swing an election.
 
2012-10-02 12:16:46 PM

Giltric: coeyagi: Giltric: coeyagi: Giltric: King Something: OhLuverly: Haven't been following this much so if someone would please clear this up, how is requiring a state issued ID to vote a barrier to poor folks voting?

The IDs required are not free; hence, it's a poll tax.

The free IDs have already been cited via articles and PENNDOTs own website....care to try again?

Can you get them by sitting in your house and not spending money on a) birth certificate copy b) bus fare?

People are usually highly motivated to get free stuff....look at how much time effort and planning is put into robbing a clothing store with organized crews of unemployed democrats.....

Getting off your ass to get a job or a free ID is hard though....so lets go spend 5 hours striiping all the wire and copper pipe out of an abandoned home so we can get 14$ at the scrap yard.

Ok, so where is the problem? 0.00003% of votes from 2003-2007. Where is the F*CKING problem?

300 million guns in the United states and 30k deaths from guns including suicide......where is the problem?


A factor of 1000, a false equivilency, and the fact that one of those consequences is an additional vote, where the other is a dead person.

Are you that much of an imbecile to think you had a real argument?
 
2012-10-02 12:17:05 PM

grahambhg: Just incase fark nerfs my link because it is tooo long: http://bit.ly/PrXcnB


Multiple fail.
*checks profile*.."Florida".
lulz.
 
2012-10-02 12:17:25 PM

Eagles409: I love how liberals just assume that poor people and minorities are too stupid to get a free ID card.


Perhaps not getting an ID makes them more intelligent than you.
 
2012-10-02 12:17:25 PM
Valid photo identification is required for the things that follow:
adopt a pet
purchase a home
purchase an automobile
purchase a gun
obtain a bank account
obtain a credit card
obtain a passport
write a check
make a credit card purchase
apply for a loan to purchase anything
to prove your age
to get married
to receive a marriage license
to drive
to buy a house
to close on a house
to get medical care
to get on a plane
to get insurance on anything
to get a job
to get a post office box
to get a hunting license
to get a fishing license
to get a business license
to cash a paycheck
rent an apartment
rent a hotel room
rent a car
rent furniture
rent tools and equipment
receive welfare
receive social security
receive food stamps
buy cigarettes
buy alcohol
buy a bus ticket
buy a cell phone
buy any antihistimine
go in to a casino
go in to a bar
go to college
have your water turned on
have your electricity turned on
have your cable turned on
have your gas turned on
obtain trash pick up service
pick up a package from the post office
pick up a package from fed ex
pick up a package from ups
pick up a prescription

So the people without id to vote never do any of these thigs either, right?
 
2012-10-02 12:17:26 PM

flux: I'd like to hear a good argument why election day shouldn't be a mandated national holiday. Give everyone the day off to vote and volunteer at polling locations. Why not?


And/or, move it from Tuesday to Saturday.
 
2012-10-02 12:17:28 PM

Eagles409: I love how liberals just assume that poor people and minorities are too stupid to get a free ID card.


We assume that there are costs to getting the free card that you aren't considering because you're too stupid to understand logistics, breathing, or the square root of 4.
 
2012-10-02 12:17:43 PM

someonelse: iheartscotch: someonelse: iheartscotch: The actual issue is people that live in two states. New York and Florida for example. It is POSSIBLE that a snow bird could POTENTIALLY vote in both states. I know, I know; it's a bit of a stretch; but that doesn't change the fact that it could happen.

Voter ID laws don't fix that.

Never said they did; I feel that each state should compare voter rolls and actually investigate duplicates.

As to the voter id issue; you are now required to show an employer your social security card and your id. You are required to show your social security card if you rent a house. You are required to produce your id if you are pulled over. You are required to produce your id if you expect to pay instate tuition at a college.

A lot of important things require Ids; I understand it is possible to loose your Id; I understand it is hard to replace a lost id. I feel that the most important right as an American citizen should be protected from fraud as much as possible. Would you be in favor of blood scans to prove identity as aposed to a physical Id?

I am in favor of showing a shred of evidence that in-person voter fraud is actually a serious problem before spending tons of money to fix it. A fiscally conservative approach, believe it or not.


So; if Romney wins in November; you won't complain if a few thousand votes were fraudulent. A few thousand votes could easily be the margin for victory.
 
2012-10-02 12:17:58 PM
This headline is missing several words. I know what they are:

And if you're not down with that Tom, we've got two words for ya... SUCK IT
 
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