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(Yahoo)   Shockingly, in last night's MA Senate debate, held at the UNIVERSITY of Massachusetts, Scott Brown's attempt to turn the word "professor" into an epithet, didn't go over so well with the crowd   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 164
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2012-10-02 01:17:40 PM
It says A LOT about our country that, even in one of our most educated and progressive states, the term "professor" actually functions as a pejorative among a significant portion of the populace.


/not proud to be an American . . .
 
2012-10-02 01:17:57 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: leave it to the left to be so butt hurt about being called by the title that you yourself use.

odd, that her argument for why you should vote for her is "because if you don't the GOP may control the senate". that has got to be the lamest argument ever.


Looks like someone is pulling a tenpoundsofcheese.
 
2012-10-02 01:19:07 PM

SphericalTime:

Really, the most confusing thing about Scott Brown's campaign is the way he's trying to turn her ancestry into the biggest political point of the campaign. He thinks that Massachusetts is racist enough not to vote for her because there might be a drop of Native American blood in her?


I think it's more of a, "hey PC liberals, Lady Miss White Privilege pretended to be one of the most oppressed minorities in American history, are you sure you guys cool with that?"

Although the Massachusetts GOP farked up a slam dunk by falsely claiming that she had illegally obtained tribal benefits and minority hiring preferences.
 
2012-10-02 01:19:32 PM
Well that cuts it, I'm scaling back my masturbation fantasies about his daughters to "topless only, third base, money shot on t*ts". Good Day Sir!!!!

images.huffingtonpost.com
 
2012-10-02 01:19:46 PM
I am amazed the people of Massachusetts are so easily duped by Brown. He talks about being "independent" but he has voted every time lock step with the GOP when his vote has mattered. Never once has he stood up to them.
 
2012-10-02 01:20:14 PM

WizardofToast: Shiatting on professors? In a college place where people are likely to like professors? You sure are good at this, Brown.

/no you're not


well, this is his first real senate race.

/special election didn't count since the democrat runner thought she was basically inheriting kennedy's seat and didn't campaign.
 
2012-10-02 01:20:32 PM
Once again, Brown looked like an angry , frustrated douche.

I really don't get how this clod got a "nice guy" image, honestly... He reminds me of every bone-headed sporto I knew in high school - Arrogant, dumb as a rock and proud of it.

But, boy, oh boy, does he want you to believe he's "independent"... Maybe he should have paid closer attention to his professors in college and he might have a better understanding of what the word means.

It certainly doesn't mean voting against your party only when it doesn't matter.
 
2012-10-02 01:21:18 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Just amazing that the right sees an education as a drawback


Welcome to things the whole party was regularly stating explicitly as early as 2006, and sporadically as far back as the 1980s.

timujin: 1/32 native American can get you some sort of advantage? Fark, I'm 1/8th Cherokee and 1/16th Choctaw, I should have a friggin' mansion by now.


Two difficulties:

(1) The basic requirement for the government portions of aid require a specific ancestry (I think it comes out to 1/16 in most cases), and that the tribe in question be one that actually held to the terms that the US set to retain sovereignty. For instance, if you've got Apache blood from one of the families that split off from the relocation and settled outside of OK instead of going all the way to the reservation, it doesn't count, the US has no contract with you. You also have to have legit genealogical records to back your claim up, like shiat filed in a courthouse and not just "mum told me her grandfather was an injun".

(2) The requirements of _tribal_ aid and benefits (profit-sharing from casinos, use of reservation land, etc) are set by the tribe, with a couple caveats from the feds. Them having their own independent governments is kind of the whole point of the deal. If they want to say you can't join/rejoin unless your father actually grew up on the reservation, or unless you marry a member of the tribe, or unless you can successfully perform the hokey-pokey in roller skates while wrestling a pig, they're fully within their rights to do so.

A lot of people that self-identify as part Cherokee or Choktaw tend to fail on the first point, if you're wondering why I sound skeptical. But, y'know, if you want to apply and are willing to do all the footwork, go for it, man. It's not like the aid has some higher purpose and you'd be 'wasting' it, it's just stuff we do because of old treaty/contract obligations.
 
2012-10-02 01:21:48 PM

Gyrfalcon: redqueenmeg: SphericalTime: Because People in power are Stupid: timujin: 1/32 native American can get you some sort of advantage? Fark, I'm 1/8th Cherokee and 1/16th Choctaw, I should have a friggin' mansion by now.
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/that's the kind of stuff they're giving native Americans now, right?

I think the voting public will have some reservations about electing a native american to office.

*rimshot*

Really, the most confusing thing about Scott Brown's campaign is the way he's trying to turn her ancestry into the biggest political point of the campaign. He thinks that Massachusetts is racist enough not to vote for her because there might be a drop of Native American blood in her?

I think his supposed point is that he is saying she isn't Native American and therefore lied PLUS benefited from ostensible preferential treatment due to this racial identification, so he's trying to gain more votes from people who don't like lying (as he says she did) and people who don't like affirmative action.

DID she get any "preferential treatment" from claiming Native heritage? Did she try to get her tribal rights somewhere by claiming her whole 1/32d blood? Or did she, like so many people across the country, merely trot out her supposed Native blood as some kind of claim to fame? A lot of people do, it's no big deal. But if she can claim tribal affiliation and the tribe accepted her claim, then it's not a lie and she's entitled to whatever preference the tribe gets.

It's kind of an either/or here. Either she has tribal affiliation and thus gets whatever benefits come with it; or she's no different from any body else--some of them right here on Fark--who like to say they are 1/whatever Native American and no harm to anyone. But you don't get the former WITHOUT approval from a tribe.


I have no idea, I haven't followed it that closely. I'm only interpreting what I think Scott Brown is trying to get from the line of argument. Definitely not saying I side with him.
 
2012-10-02 01:22:08 PM

reklamfox: Weaver95: Because People in power are Stupid: Their excuse for "everyone" being against them is consistently the shrill paranoid delusion that it isn't their message but some other factor outside their control.

well, yeah - but a lot of Republicans really do seem to believe that God is on their side. And you can't be wrong if God is saying you're right. so when they lose it's because EVIL is working against them. By default, they're always right because God said so. And good and righteous people don't fail unless they devil cheats and trips them up.

or something. I find it difficult to climb inside the GOP point of view these days. it makes my brain hurt.

[i.imgur.com image 640x960] 

/Posted in another thread


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand thank God that I'm an agnostic.

/farking idiots
 
2012-10-02 01:22:51 PM

reklamfox: Weaver95: Because People in power are Stupid: Their excuse for "everyone" being against them is consistently the shrill paranoid delusion that it isn't their message but some other factor outside their control.

well, yeah - but a lot of Republicans really do seem to believe that God is on their side. And you can't be wrong if God is saying you're right. so when they lose it's because EVIL is working against them. By default, they're always right because God said so. And good and righteous people don't fail unless they devil cheats and trips them up.

or something. I find it difficult to climb inside the GOP point of view these days. it makes my brain hurt.

[i.imgur.com image 640x960] 

/Posted in another thread


So they admit Jesus is from Hell?

And here I thought he was from Nazareth not Iceland
 
2012-10-02 01:23:17 PM
I don't get the hooplah over the native american thing. So what if she checked the box on her application? She wasn't applying for a job at McDonald's. She already had the job before she filled out the application.
 
2012-10-02 01:23:55 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: For his part, Brown said he was not guilty of exaggeration when he remarked this summer that he had had "secret meetings with kings and queens" in his role as senator.

Okay, can somebody who's been following this please tell me what the hell?


About the same time as he was accussing ELizabeth Warren of exaggerating her ehtnic background to gain advantages, Young Scotty brown Ironically had this to say about his own experience as a senator:

"
Each and every day that I've been a United States senator, I've been either discussing issues, meeting on issues, in secret meetings with kings and queens and prime ministers and business leaders and military leaders talking, voting, working on issues every single day"


which he now claims wasn't even a slight exaggeration
 
2012-10-02 01:24:02 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Magorn: You know I could see "My opponent is one of them fancy-pants eggheads what thinks she's gooder than us reg'lar folk" working as an attack in parts of say TX or the more Banjo-dense regions of WVa, but in Massachusetts? Really, he thought was a good idea?

Well, he is riding the Scotty2Hotty express.

[offensivepolitics.net image 640x480]


I think if you looked at raw numbers of votes, you'd see a bigger difference. The Ds stayed home in 2010 since Coakley did such a terrible job campaigning. Brown has the advantage of being an incumbent and is somewhat moderate, so Warren has a tough job ahead of her.

/hope she wins tho
//works for a primarily research university. The only time people are referred to as "Dr. Foobar" is when you're either about to say something stupid or one of the two people are visiting from another institution. So you're either being courteous, or a dick.
 
2012-10-02 01:24:49 PM

reklamfox: /Posted in another thread


I don't like feeling stabby this early in the morning. please tell me that's a fake.
 
2012-10-02 01:25:08 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: odd, that her argument for why you should vote for her is "because if you don't the GOP may control the senate". that has got to be the lamest argument ever.


Not as lame as this one:

leave it to the left to be so butt hurt about being called by the title that you yourself use.

Yeah, cause it's not like he was being smug and condescending and mocking the liberal elitist, he was simply addressing her by her title.
 
2012-10-02 01:26:27 PM
He slammed Warren for not being able to name a Republican senator who she would be able to work with. She finally named Indiana Senator Richard Lugar, who lost his primary fight in the spring to a more conservative Republican.

Where did the gaffe patrol go? They're usually so reliable.
 
2012-10-02 01:26:36 PM

reklamfox: Weaver95: Because People in power are Stupid: Their excuse for "everyone" being against them is consistently the shrill paranoid delusion that it isn't their message but some other factor outside their control.

well, yeah - but a lot of Republicans really do seem to believe that God is on their side. And you can't be wrong if God is saying you're right. so when they lose it's because EVIL is working against them. By default, they're always right because God said so. And good and righteous people don't fail unless they devil cheats and trips them up.

or something. I find it difficult to climb inside the GOP point of view these days. it makes my brain hurt.

[i.imgur.com image 640x960] 

/Posted in another thread


Whiskey
Tango
Foxtrot
?????
 
2012-10-02 01:27:07 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: The comments are pretty golden:

JFK was far, far to the right of any Republican today, and he would have NOTHING to do with the current democrats and their anti-American ways...


Well, let's see, JFK :
Played chicken with the communists, just like Truman
Was willing to use nuclear weapons, just like Truman.
Went to war in SE Asia, wasting thousands of American lives for a political statement, just like Truman

Nope, sounds like a good Democrat to me.
 
2012-10-02 01:27:10 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: odd, that her argument for why you should vote for her is "because if you don't the GOP may control the senate". that has got to be the lamest argument ever.



I should know better than to respond, but . . .

Are you claiming that, when voting for a United States Senator in a two-party system, one should not consider which party will control the Senate?

Really?
 
2012-10-02 01:27:10 PM
Moderator: "Who's your favorite SCOUTS justice*?"
Brown: "...uuuhhhh...Scalia?"
Warren: "AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!,,gasp...hahahhahaha'

*Yeah, who's your favourite New Kid. Yeah, call me Joey. Oh, come on. Don't make me get loose. Yeah, that's right. Call me Donnie. Oh, girl. Oh, please don't go girl.
 
2012-10-02 01:27:23 PM
The Modern GOP: where education, facts and science are less important than winning.
 
2012-10-02 01:27:57 PM

Isitoveryet: reklamfox: /Posted in another thread

I don't like feeling stabby this early in the morning. please tell me that's a fake.


Sadly, no. That picture was sent to me from a friend living in NY City. He came home one night a few weeks ago and found it taped to his door. This is the real deal. It was too absurd not to share
 
2012-10-02 01:28:41 PM

timujin: 1/32 native American can get you some sort of advantage? Fark, I'm 1/8th Cherokee and 1/16th Choctaw, I should have a friggin' mansion by now.
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/that's the kind of stuff they're giving native Americans now, right?


No, sorry. We're out of those. We do have some swell blankets we can give away, though...

/too soon?
 
2012-10-02 01:28:53 PM
Brown's also going to have to contend with the fact that Romney is going to get crushed here in the Commonwealth... The amount of voters turning out to vote for Obama could have a negative impact down ticket for Brown.

Still a pretty close race, though. Guess we'll see in November.
 
2012-10-02 01:29:38 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: leave it to the left to be so butt hurt about being called by the title that you yourself use.


Says the teabagger.
 
2012-10-02 01:29:43 PM

Cletus C.: He slammed Warren for not being able to name a Republican senator who she would be able to work with. She finally named Indiana Senator Richard Lugar, who lost his primary fight in the spring to a more conservative Republican.

Where did the gaffe patrol go? They're usually so reliable.


If that's the best you can do for Brown, then he's in real trouble.
 
2012-10-02 01:30:49 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: leave it to the left to be so butt hurt about being called by the title that you yourself use.

odd, that her argument for why you should vote for her is "because if you don't the GOP may control the senate". that has got to be the lamest argument ever.


It's an effective one, though, especially in New England. This exact argument is how Sheldon Whitehouse beat Lincoln Chafee in 2006 in Rhode Island. (Chafee was the only Senate Republican to vote against the Iraq War, became an independent after he lost, and became Governor in 2010 running as an indie.)
 
2012-10-02 01:31:35 PM

Corvus: I am amazed the people of Massachusetts are so easily duped by Brown. He talks about being "independent" but he has voted every time lock step with the GOP when his vote has mattered. Never once has he stood up to them.


I want to think that last night's debate sealed the deal for Warren, but there's a lot of people who want to vote for Scott Brown even though they disagree with most of his viewpoints. At least one woman I know who is pro-choice and an attorney still plans to vote for Brown even though he said his favorite Supreme Court justice was the most anti-choice member of the court. The inevitable response is that they "just don't like Elizabeth Warren" and won't change their minds. A lot of the men I know plan to split their ticket, except for the ones who plan to vote for Romney. Scott Brown has done a good job revealing himself to be a condescending jerk, but there's still a very good chance that the voters in Massachusetts send him back to Washington.
 
2012-10-02 01:32:23 PM

keylock71: Still a pretty close race, though. Guess we'll see in November.


Any explanation for that, from an insider?
 
2012-10-02 01:33:13 PM

reklamfox: Isitoveryet: reklamfox: /Posted in another thread

I don't like feeling stabby this early in the morning. please tell me that's a fake.

Sadly, no. That picture was sent to me from a friend living in NY City. He came home one night a few weeks ago and found it taped to his door. This is the real deal. It was too absurd not to share


/speechless
 
2012-10-02 01:36:04 PM

Rwa2play: Cletus C.: He slammed Warren for not being able to name a Republican senator who she would be able to work with. She finally named Indiana Senator Richard Lugar, who lost his primary fight in the spring to a more conservative Republican.

Where did the gaffe patrol go? They're usually so reliable.

If that's the best you can do for Brown, then he's in real trouble.


For Brown? I defer to the picture of his daughters and say "game over, man."

This was about Warren and her ability to work well with Strom Thurmond.
 
2012-10-02 01:37:36 PM

Cletus C.: Rwa2play: Cletus C.: He slammed Warren for not being able to name a Republican senator who she would be able to work with. She finally named Indiana Senator Richard Lugar, who lost his primary fight in the spring to a more conservative Republican.

Where did the gaffe patrol go? They're usually so reliable.

If that's the best you can do for Brown, then he's in real trouble.

For Brown? I defer to the picture of his daughters and say "game over, man."

This was about Warren and her ability to work well with Strom Thurmond.


Oh yes because Republicans are so willing to reach across the aisle...

/...with a gun in their hand
 
2012-10-02 01:37:42 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-02 01:37:48 PM

The Name: keylock71: Still a pretty close race, though. Guess we'll see in November.

Any explanation for that, from an insider?


Brown is still pretty popular...especially in the wealthy suburbs. Warren isn't from Massachusetts originally, and a lot of people around here can be surprisingly provincial.

It's going to come down to whether or not Warren can get the folks living in bigger cities (Boston, Lowell, Springfield, New Bedford, Taunton, Brockton, Fall River, etc) out to vote for her. She's been a regular fixture around here on the South Coast and I've seen her in Fall River and New Bedford at least 5 or 6 times in the last few months.

Brown's going to take the wealthier suburbs, but Western MA is solid Blue as are the cities for the most part. Warren does well in those areas on election night and she's got a great chance of winning. The Presidential election is going to be an advantage for her... Not so much for Brown.

But, who knows?
 
2012-10-02 01:39:38 PM

reklamfox: Weaver95: Because People in power are Stupid: Their excuse for "everyone" being against them is consistently the shrill paranoid delusion that it isn't their message but some other factor outside their control.

well, yeah - but a lot of Republicans really do seem to believe that God is on their side. And you can't be wrong if God is saying you're right. so when they lose it's because EVIL is working against them. By default, they're always right because God said so. And good and righteous people don't fail unless they devil cheats and trips them up.

or something. I find it difficult to climb inside the GOP point of view these days. it makes my brain hurt.

[i.imgur.com image 640x960] 

/Posted in another thread


You need a manicure.
 
2012-10-02 01:41:36 PM

The Name: keylock71: Still a pretty close race, though. Guess we'll see in November.

Any explanation for that, from an insider?


You wouldn't believe how farking redneck Massachusetts actually is.
 
2012-10-02 01:44:08 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Just amazing that the right sees an education as a drawback


It's where you get indoctrinated to librul elitist socialism! EVERYone knows that.
 
2012-10-02 01:45:09 PM

keylock71: The Name: keylock71: Still a pretty close race, though. Guess we'll see in November.

Any explanation for that, from an insider?

Brown is still pretty popular...especially in the wealthy suburbs. Warren isn't from Massachusetts originally, and a lot of people around here can be surprisingly provincial.

It's going to come down to whether or not Warren can get the folks living in bigger cities (Boston, Lowell, Springfield, New Bedford, Taunton, Brockton, Fall River, etc) out to vote for her. She's been a regular fixture around here on the South Coast and I've seen her in Fall River and New Bedford at least 5 or 6 times in the last few months.

Brown's going to take the wealthier suburbs, but Western MA is solid Blue as are the cities for the most part. Warren does well in those areas on election night and she's got a great chance of winning. The Presidential election is going to be an advantage for her... Not so much for Brown.

But, who knows?


The wealthier suburbs west of Boston (Newton, Concord, Acton) tend to vote Democratic until you get past 495, where they trend Republican. Central MA outside of Worcester votes Republican in most elections. North and south of Boston, not only do the wealthier suburbs vote Republican, but the lower income suburbs vote Republican, and in some towns like Billerica and Methuen the electorate is actually more conservative than say, Andover. The Cape and South Coast trend Democratic as does Western MA.
 
2012-10-02 01:49:17 PM

Jackson Herring: The Name: keylock71: Still a pretty close race, though. Guess we'll see in November.

Any explanation for that, from an insider?

You wouldn't believe how farking redneck Massachusetts actually is.


You live in a different Massachusetts than I do.
 
2012-10-02 01:50:12 PM
Republicans absolutely hate and fear Elizabeth Warren. She represents, as an educated, articulate and determined individual, the majority of American's clear desire for oversight and regulation of the nation's financial institutions.
The GOP in the Senate and in the House have tried every trick in the book to block her work and to keep in place the status quo on Wall Street and preserve conditions that led to a world-wide economic meltdown.
Should she be elected to the US Senate the Republicans see in her a future challenger to whatever meat puppet the GOP will run for the Presidency down the line. Warren has such tremendous credibility and her story is so strong that the GOP has stooped to this "Indian" BS as a last gasp attempt to tarnish her.
 
2012-10-02 01:50:13 PM
l2.yimg.com

CAN YOU DIG IT?!!??
 
2012-10-02 01:51:15 PM

what_now: You live in a different Massachusetts than I do.


It's pretty nice though, you should come see it some time.
 
2012-10-02 01:56:36 PM

Magorn: You know I could see "My opponent is one of them fancy-pants eggheads what thinks she's gooder than us reg'lar folk" working as an attack in parts of say TX or the more Banjo-dense regions of WVa, but in Massachusetts? Really, he thought was a good idea?


Well, he did get elected on the basis of having a truck.
 
2012-10-02 01:56:51 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

"it's educational!"

/obscure?
 
2012-10-02 01:57:05 PM
He should have went with Poindexter.

/60% of the time it works every time.
 
2012-10-02 01:59:23 PM

WizardofToast: Shiatting on professors? In a college place where people are likely to like professors? You sure are good at this, Brown.

/no you're not


Doesn't really matter. University egghead profs and students will be too busy smoking bongs and reading Das Kapital on election day to make any difference at the polls.

/Universities usually have nice auditoriums somewhere
//Outside that, I think the right would just as soon demolish them and build factories on the land
///JERB KER ER TERS
 
2012-10-02 01:59:28 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: odd, that her argument for why you should vote for her is "because if you don't the GOP may control the senate". that has got to be the lamest argument ever.


Since Republicans vote in lockstep and tend to do a lot of damage, it's relevant. On the other hand, it's a lost battle; because they vote in lockstep they can control the Senate as long as they have 38 or 39 seats, and there's zero chance they'll have fewer.
 
2012-10-02 01:59:50 PM

FlashHarry: /obscure?


no
 
2012-10-02 01:59:53 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Yeah. I wouldn't worry about it though, it's not a big college town.


It's a fine line between clever and stupid.
 
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