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2012-10-02 03:14:32 PM
We do to have life! We even have it living in..,SUBDIVISIONS!

*choom**choom**choom*
*choom**choom* *cha-choom* *cha-choom*
*choom**choom**choom*
*choom**choom* *cha-choom* *cha-choom*
*Bwwweeeeeeeeee-oooooo-eeeeee* (rat-tat-tata-smack!)
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*Oooooooooooooo-waaaaa-oooooo*
*Oooooooooooooo-waaiii-oooooo*
*Bwwweeeeeeeeee-oooooo-eeeeee* (rat-tat-tata-smack!)
*Bwwweeeeeeeeee-oooooo-eeeeee* (rat-tat-tata-smack!)
*CHOOOOOM*
(pwack-a-smacka)
*CHOOOOOM*
(pwack-a-smacka)
*CHOOOOOM- WAAAAAAAH - CHOOOM*
(pwack-a-smacka)
*CHOOOOOM- WAAIIIII - CHOOOM*
(pwack-a-smacka)
*CHOOOM-A* *CHOOOM-A* *CHOOOM-A*
Dweeee-da-dee-deee
*CHOOOM-A* *CHOOOM-A* *CHOOOM-A*
Dweeee-da-dee-deee
*CHOOOM-CHOOOM* (smack!)
*CHOOOM-CHOOOM* (smack!)
*CHOOOM-CHOOOM* (smack!)
*CHOOM CHOOM CHOOM CHA-CHOOM CHA-CHOOM*
*Bwwweeeeeeeeee-oooooo-eeeeee*

"Sprawling on the fringes of the city,
In geometric order....."
 
2012-10-02 03:15:13 PM

Type random string here: Those scientists are American, eh? I'm surprised they managed to find Canada on the map.


Americans might not know a lot about the world at large, but most of us do know all the states.
 
2012-10-02 03:15:28 PM
If everyone on this planet fought for scientific advancement

1.bp.blogspot.com

We could make this happen. Solving problems and seizing opportunities.


/but instead, we are much better at fighting each other. Tribal warfare is what we have to break free from before we become anything as a species.
 
2012-10-02 03:17:36 PM

Mimic_Octopus: Isuldirs: I live in Vancouver. One of the best cities (if not THE best) in the world and is quite warm in comparisons to the rest of the country and the north east parts of America.


/Now the rain....
//Loves the rain

rain is something one deals with. you love it ? do you somehow live a life that does not involve leaving your house early for work, walking a dog, driving a car, playing outdoor sports, going to stores and carrying items outside, looking at women in bathing suits in the sun, wearing shorts or short sleeved shirts, etc ?


Walking on the beaches,
Looking at the peaches?

/got a few Stranglers around here....
 
2012-10-02 03:18:20 PM
Canada ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact, it's cold as hell.
 
2012-10-02 03:24:24 PM

ObscureNameHere: Mimic_Octopus: Isuldirs: I live in Vancouver. One of the best cities (if not THE best) in the world and is quite warm in comparisons to the rest of the country and the north east parts of America.


/Now the rain....
//Loves the rain

rain is something one deals with. you love it ? do you somehow live a life that does not involve leaving your house early for work, walking a dog, driving a car, playing outdoor sports, going to stores and carrying items outside, looking at women in bathing suits in the sun, wearing shorts or short sleeved shirts, etc ?

Walking on the beaches,
Looking at the peaches?

/got a few Stranglers around here....


never been to a beach or on a ski boat huh ?
 
2012-10-02 03:25:30 PM
I wasn't aware fox had a news section
 
2012-10-02 03:25:37 PM
Fark y'all, it's going to snow here tonight.
 
2012-10-02 03:25:44 PM

Type random string here: Those scientists are American, eh? I'm surprised they managed to find Canada on the map.


Only scientists working on missile guidance systems need to retain such trivial information as the location of Canada.
 
2012-10-02 03:26:45 PM
No hockey this year, it's really going to be a bad winter in O Canada.
 
2012-10-02 03:27:48 PM

ObscureNameHere: (pwack-a-smacka)


That is my word of the day.
 
2012-10-02 03:31:07 PM
Mimic_Octopus
4chan killed Faux News comments in May. It was pretty damn funny.
 
2012-10-02 03:32:09 PM

madgonad: Temperature was never a barrier to sending humans to Mars. Atmospheric pressure (there isn't much) and very little water is the problem.


Very little water? Seriously?
 
2012-10-02 03:32:17 PM

ltdanman44: If everyone on this planet fought for scientific advancement

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x209]

We could make this happen. Solving problems and seizing opportunities.


/but instead, we are much better at fighting each other. Tribal warfare is what we have to break free from before we become anything as a species.


It wouldn't be Tahiti in terms of temp, but yeah...100% correct. Of course a manned space program with like...you know...manned space craft would be a good start.
 
2012-10-02 03:32:55 PM

Mimic_Octopus: ObscureNameHere: Mimic_Octopus: Isuldirs: I live in Vancouver. One of the best cities (if not THE best) in the world and is quite warm in comparisons to the rest of the country and the north east parts of America.


/Now the rain....
//Loves the rain

rain is something one deals with. you love it ? do you somehow live a life that does not involve leaving your house early for work, walking a dog, driving a car, playing outdoor sports, going to stores and carrying items outside, looking at women in bathing suits in the sun, wearing shorts or short sleeved shirts, etc ?

Walking on the beaches,
Looking at the peaches?

/got a few Stranglers around here....

never been to a beach or on a ski boat huh ?


Yes, but I bet you completely missed a musical allusion.
 
2012-10-02 03:34:19 PM

fireclown: ObscureNameHere: (pwack-a-smacka)

That is my word of the day.


Go with my blessings. The Rhythm of Peart upon you.
 
2012-10-02 03:36:02 PM

ltdanman44: If everyone on this planet fought for scientific advancement

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x209]

We could make this happen. Solving problems and seizing opportunities.


/but instead, we are much better at fighting each other. Tribal warfare is what we have to break free from before we become anything as a species.


Just you wait when we find oil in Mars.
 
2012-10-02 03:36:41 PM
Well, if we find oil in Mars, given it needs organic life for that.
 
2012-10-02 03:36:48 PM

Stephen_Falken: Mimic_Octopus
4chan killed Faux News comments in May. It was pretty damn funny.


thanks i missed that, awesome.
 
2012-10-02 03:37:04 PM

Stephen_Falken: Mimic_Octopus
4chan killed Faux News comments in May. It was pretty damn funny.


Because removing alternate points of view through cyber bullying is always funny...so long as it is done to the "correct" people. *sigh*

Back on topic, has anyone considered that higher temps here and higher than expected temps on Mars are somehow connected? You know, big ball of mostly hydrogen that Earth and Mars orbit around putting out more energy than usual could explain a lot.
 
2012-10-02 03:37:05 PM
Well, life is going to suck big time in Canada without hockey this year.

Curling anyone?
 
2012-10-02 03:37:39 PM

SlothB77: Above freezing during the daytime on Mars is impressive, but

Air temperatures drop dramatically after the sun goes down, plunging as low as minus 94 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 70 Celsius) just before dawn, scientists said.

I'm still not moving there yet.


I'm not moving to Canada either, what's your point?
 
2012-10-02 03:38:33 PM
I was flipping through the MSL photos this morning and came across this one
www.nasa.gov

My first thought was: "Gaahhh, life on Mars!". Second was: "Get off the farking sound stage!"
 
2012-10-02 03:38:44 PM

ObscureNameHere: We do to have life! We even have it living in..,SUBDIVISIONS!

*choom**choom**choom*
*choom**choom* *cha-choom* *cha-choom*
*choom**choom**choom*
*choom**choom* *cha-choom* *cha-choom*
*Bwwweeeeeeeeee-oooooo-eeeeee* (rat-tat-tata-smack!)
*Bwwweeeeeeeeee-oooooo-eeeeee* (rat-tat-tata-smack!)
*Oooooooooooooo-waaaaa-oooooo*
*Oooooooooooooo-waaiii-oooooo*
*Bwwweeeeeeeeee-oooooo-eeeeee* (rat-tat-tata-smack!)
*Bwwweeeeeeeeee-oooooo-eeeeee* (rat-tat-tata-smack!)
*CHOOOOOM*
(pwack-a-smacka)
*CHOOOOOM*
(pwack-a-smacka)
*CHOOOOOM- WAAAAAAAH - CHOOOM*
(pwack-a-smacka)
*CHOOOOOM- WAAIIIII - CHOOOM*
(pwack-a-smacka)
*CHOOOM-A* *CHOOOM-A* *CHOOOM-A*
Dweeee-da-dee-deee
*CHOOOM-A* *CHOOOM-A* *CHOOOM-A*
Dweeee-da-dee-deee
*CHOOOM-CHOOOM* (smack!)
*CHOOOM-CHOOOM* (smack!)
*CHOOOM-CHOOOM* (smack!)
*CHOOM CHOOM CHOOM CHA-CHOOM CHA-CHOOM*
*Bwwweeeeeeeeee-oooooo-eeeeee*

"Sprawling on the fringes of the city,
In geometric order....."


I dunno what the fark that has to do with the article but it was awesome. Had to throw the song on to confirm your badassery sir. (or madame)
 
2012-10-02 03:40:21 PM
First rule of Canadian winter is we don't talk about Canadian winter.

/I just talked about Canadian winter didn't I.....
//Sh*t.
 
2012-10-02 03:40:32 PM

rwfan: I was flipping through the MSL photos this morning and came across this one
[www.nasa.gov image 428x321]

My first thought was: "Gaahhh, life on Mars!". Second was: "Get off the farking sound stage!"


Isn't that the 401 between Moose Jaw and Regina?
 
2012-10-02 03:40:34 PM

ObscureNameHere: Mimic_Octopus: ObscureNameHere: Mimic_Octopus: Isuldirs: I live in Vancouver. One of the best cities (if not THE best) in the world and is quite warm in comparisons to the rest of the country and the north east parts of America.


/Now the rain....
//Loves the rain

rain is something one deals with. you love it ? do you somehow live a life that does not involve leaving your house early for work, walking a dog, driving a car, playing outdoor sports, going to stores and carrying items outside, looking at women in bathing suits in the sun, wearing shorts or short sleeved shirts, etc ?

Walking on the beaches,
Looking at the peaches?

/got a few Stranglers around here....

never been to a beach or on a ski boat huh ?

Yes, but I bet you completely missed a musical allusion.


yep, completely. i had not heard that one before.
 
2012-10-02 03:40:34 PM
and the place would be far more habitable if Cohagen would just give the planet air
 
2012-10-02 03:44:30 PM

hdhale: Stephen_Falken: Mimic_Octopus
4chan killed Faux News comments in May. It was pretty damn funny.

Because removing alternate points of view through cyber bullying is always funny...so long as it is done to the "correct" people. *sigh*

Back on topic, has anyone considered that higher temps here and higher than expected temps on Mars are somehow connected? You know, big ball of mostly hydrogen that Earth and Mars orbit around putting out more energy than usual could explain a lot.


dont tell them that soon (not on a day to day scale, but) the sun will encompass both our and mars' orbits...
 
2012-10-02 03:45:36 PM

WhippingBoy: rwfan: I was flipping through the MSL photos this morning and came across this one
[www.nasa.gov image 428x321]

My first thought was: "Gaahhh, life on Mars!". Second was: "Get off the farking sound stage!"

Isn't that the 401 between Moose Jaw and Regina?


Moose Jaw? In my Regina?
 
2012-10-02 03:45:51 PM

FarkinHostile: Canada ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact, it's cold as hell.

...and scene.
 
2012-10-02 03:47:52 PM

LoneDoggie: ObscureNameHere: We do to have life! We even have it living in..,SUBDIVISIONS!

(snip)
"Sprawling on the fringes of the city,
In geometric order....."

I dunno what the fark that has to do with the article but it was awesome. Had to throw the song on to confirm your badassery sir. (or madame)


In reverse order:

1) Sir, but not in the formal British sense.
2) Thank you.
3) Thank you, took me a while to work out in my head from memory. I probably missed a couple of bars here and there.
4) Nothing really. Just wanted to prove that any hour can be RUSH HOUR!
 
2012-10-02 03:49:03 PM
If it's Fox News, it's Faux News.
 
2012-10-02 03:50:03 PM
GIS for "Hot Canada" yields worthwhile results...

www.cigargeeks.com
 
2012-10-02 03:54:44 PM

Bio-nic: GIS for "Hot Canada" yields worthwhile results...

[www.cigargeeks.com image 480x358]


You sir, have the right idea. 

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-02 03:58:02 PM

Mimic_Octopus: hdhale: Stephen_Falken: Mimic_Octopus
4chan killed Faux News comments in May. It was pretty damn funny.

Because removing alternate points of view through cyber bullying is always funny...so long as it is done to the "correct" people. *sigh*

Back on topic, has anyone considered that higher temps here and higher than expected temps on Mars are somehow connected? You know, big ball of mostly hydrogen that Earth and Mars orbit around putting out more energy than usual could explain a lot.

dont tell them that soon (not on a day to day scale, but) the sun will encompass both our and mars' orbits...


Indeed one day long after we're gone the Sun will enter its red giant phase as it starts burning helium and it will expand past Earth's orbit (not sure about Mars).

But fluctuations in the output of the Sun have been noted previously, as have changes in the Earth's orbit. Not enough to go full moonbat over, but enough that southern Greenland becomes a whole lot more like northern Scotland. We know this because Viking settlements in Greenland over a 1000 years ago were capable of raising sheep for food and raising crops that cannot now grow there (at least for the moment...). All that without massive increases in CO2 levels.

We'll need a whole lot more data, but Mars could well be going through a warming phase that will make it significantly easier to live there, much as the Vikings found Greenland not too shabby 1000 years ago (BYOA - bring your own air).
 
2012-10-02 04:01:08 PM

ltdanman44: If everyone on this planet fought for scientific advancement

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x209]

We could make this happen. Solving problems and seizing opportunities.


/but instead, we are much better at fighting each other. Tribal warfare is what we have to break free from before we become anything as a species.


Hmm, crash some water and CO2 laden comets into Mars, and let the dust settle? Or some other method?
 
2012-10-02 04:08:12 PM
Air temperatures drop dramatically after the sun goes down, plunging as low as minus 94 degrees Fahrenheit just before dawn, scientists said.

So really not puzzling for a superdesert.
 
2012-10-02 04:10:06 PM

Leopold Stotch: ltdanman44: If everyone on this planet fought for scientific advancement

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x209]

We could make this happen. Solving problems and seizing opportunities.


/but instead, we are much better at fighting each other. Tribal warfare is what we have to break free from before we become anything as a species.

Hmm, crash some water and CO2 laden comets into Mars, and let the dust settle? Or some other method?


Just activate the machine
 
2012-10-02 04:10:56 PM

eyefarkno: Please don't talk about Canadian Winter. It will come soon enough. Allow us a little bit of fall. Still hope to take the top off my Jeep at least one more time without having to wear a parka.


Are you farking kidding me right now? Bring on the Snow!


Thread jack much?
Why yes, yes I do.
 
2012-10-02 04:11:42 PM

hdhale: Back on topic, has anyone considered that higher temps here and higher than expected temps on Mars are somehow connected? You know, big ball of mostly hydrogen that Earth and Mars orbit around putting out more energy than usual could explain a lot.


Climatologists have also noticed the existence of the Sun; its contribution to climate change has been quantified.
 
2012-10-02 04:11:44 PM

ltdanman44: If everyone on this planet fought for scientific advancement

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x209]

We could make this happen. Solving problems and seizing opportunities.


/but instead, we are much better at fighting each other. Tribal warfare is what we have to break free from before we become anything as a species.


So the likely hood of orbital refineries tapping Neptune as a fuel depot are probably just as unlikely.
 
2012-10-02 04:16:05 PM

JNowe: It's global warming. I blame Bush.


Done in one. Goodnight everyone!
 
2012-10-02 04:18:20 PM

Mimic_Octopus: Isuldirs: I live in Vancouver. One of the best cities (if not THE best) in the world and is quite warm in comparisons to the rest of the country and the north east parts of America.


/Now the rain....
//Loves the rain

rain is something one deals with. you love it ? do you somehow live a life that does not involve leaving your house early for work, walking a dog, driving a car, playing outdoor sports, going to stores and carrying items outside, looking at women in bathing suits in the sun, wearing shorts or short sleeved shirts, etc ?


I grew up in Vancouver and of course you still get out and do things. And you do enjoy some aspects of the rain itself -- very fresh air, sound of the rain, etc.

However, two years ago I moved to California for work and I have to admit that I could never go back to Vancouver. The clincher is having kids and doing outdoor activities with them. In Vancouver, by the time my daughter was 7 her birthday had been rained out three years and her birthday is in middle of August! You basically cannot plan on any outdoor activity in advance in Vancouver, except possibly in September. Our wedding was hailed on, our Easter Egg hunts always sprinkled on, our camping trips always rained on, hunting trips always snowed on, half of Halloweens are rainy, etc.

In particular having your kids in sports sucks in Vancouver. In California, my daughter's soccer practices are invariably on balmy evenings, baseball is never rained out, etc. No more huddling under shelters, no more kids with frozen fingers, no more mud in your truck.

We are able to go for a hike every weekend. And so on.

Commuting is SO much more pleasant without the rain. No more commuting home in the dark, hydroplaning on HWY 1 or Lougheed Highway.

We had a big property in Vancouver, but could never enjoy it. BBQs were rained out, even if it was sunny the ground was soggy from rain the night before, etc.

Anyway, my point is that if you grow up in Vancouver you think it is normal to have rain all the time, but you really don't know what you're missing. As an adult, you can sort of power through the rain, but once you have a family you are missing out a LOT.

And I am someone who self-professed to LOVE the rain all my life.
 
2012-10-02 04:39:59 PM

Egoy3k: thewulf: It surprises me too, and I live here.

Who the hell thought settling here was a good idea?

Can you imagine being one of the first settlers? Some boats go to the Caribbean, others go to South America, a bunch end up in the continental US, but nooooo your boat lands in what is now Halifax harbor. I would bet a lot of colonial wives were pretty pissed off at their husbands for having a hangover on the day they went and booked their passage.


In the end I don't have to deal with the religious nuts down south so I'll take it. Well that and I'm in Vancouver, we don't get much of a winter.
 
2012-10-02 04:41:50 PM

thewulf: It surprises me too, and I live here.

Who the hell thought settling here was a good idea?


I was thinking the same thing. MY grandfather emigrated from England in the early 20th century. He could have gone with some of his relatives to New Zealand. Warm New Zealand where it never snows...but nooooooo. Let's get on this boat, and go to the land of ice and snow. That'd be fun. If time travel is ever invented I'm going back and kick him square in the nuts.
 
2012-10-02 04:42:20 PM

jabelar: Mimic_Octopus: Isuldirs: I live in Vancouver. One of the best cities (if not THE best) in the world and is quite warm in comparisons to the rest of the country and the north east parts of America.


/Now the rain....
//Loves the rain

rain is something one deals with. you love it ? do you somehow live a life that does not involve leaving your house early for work, walking a dog, driving a car, playing outdoor sports, going to stores and carrying items outside, looking at women in bathing suits in the sun, wearing shorts or short sleeved shirts, etc ?

I grew up in Vancouver and of course you still get out and do things. And you do enjoy some aspects of the rain itself -- very fresh air, sound of the rain, etc.

However, two years ago I moved to California for work and I have to admit that I could never go back to Vancouver. The clincher is having kids and doing outdoor activities with them. In Vancouver, by the time my daughter was 7 her birthday had been rained out three years and her birthday is in middle of August! You basically cannot plan on any outdoor activity in advance in Vancouver, except possibly in September. Our wedding was hailed on, our Easter Egg hunts always sprinkled on, our camping trips always rained on, hunting trips always snowed on, half of Halloweens are rainy, etc.

In particular having your kids in sports sucks in Vancouver. In California, my daughter's soccer practices are invariably on balmy evenings, baseball is never rained out, etc. No more huddling under shelters, no more kids with frozen fingers, no more mud in your truck.

We are able to go for a hike every weekend. And so on.

Commuting is SO much more pleasant without the rain. No more commuting home in the dark, hydroplaning on HWY 1 or Lougheed Highway.

We had a big property in Vancouver, but could never enjoy it. BBQs were rained out, even if it was sunny the ground was soggy from rain the night before, etc.

Anyway, my point is that if you grow up in Vancouver you t ...


You sound weak. And why on earth didn't you have a patio cover to BBQ under?
 
2012-10-02 04:42:31 PM

Mimic_Octopus: Isuldirs: I live in Vancouver. One of the best cities (if not THE best) in the world and is quite warm in comparisons to the rest of the country and the north east parts of America.


/Now the rain....
//Loves the rain

rain is something one deals with. you love it ? do you somehow live a life that does not involve leaving your house early for work, walking a dog, driving a car, playing outdoor sports, going to stores and carrying items outside, looking at women in bathing suits in the sun, wearing shorts or short sleeved shirts, etc ?


I have no problems with rain, guess what when you walk in the rain you don't melt, you can use an umbrella and magically the items you 'carry outside' don't get wet, yah we still have summer and the women in bathing suits aren't 400 pounds like the states.

Must suck to go through life without being able to find solutions to the most basic of problems.
 
2012-10-02 04:43:37 PM

Mimic_Octopus: Isuldirs: I live in Vancouver. One of the best cities (if not THE best) in the world and is quite warm in comparisons to the rest of the country and the north east parts of America.


/Now the rain....
//Loves the rain

rain is something one deals with. you love it ? do you somehow live a life that does not involve leaving your house early for work, walking a dog, driving a car, playing outdoor sports, going to stores and carrying items outside, looking at women in bathing suits in the sun, wearing shorts or short sleeved shirts, etc ?


I too live in Vancouver, and I can tell you that it doesn't stop people here at all. The rain is relatively invisible in the winter (the rainy season). This works out great because everyone is already bundled up in water-proof winter gear, which happens to be remarkably waterproof. Using said gear, I still walk my dog, go hiking in the mountains (lower elevations were there is no snow), drive my car up and down hills. Being Canada, bikinis, shorts, and tank tops is for the summer, which is quite warm. Realistically, one could ask the same questions of any northern Washington State town, as the climate is very similar.

If the prospect of a long, wet, cold, sunless winter isn't your thing, no amount of convincing will do. But if you don't mind wearing rain gear, this is the best place to spend the winter.
 
2012-10-02 04:52:24 PM
As a Canadian, the temperatures in my city are anywhere from -30C (-22F) in the dead of winter and up to about +38C (100F) in the height of summer.

Those don't include 'windchill' or humidity factor. And that's living an hour south-west of Toronto!
 
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