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(Townhall)   Yes,Obama did not order a gutting of work requirements, but his administration is urging liberal states to do that   (townhall.com) divider line 50
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2012-10-02 07:58:30 AM  
This is his big reveal:

The Obama administration will let liberal state welfare officials water down work requirements as long as they game the system to show a pretend movement from welfare to work.
 
2012-10-02 08:01:58 AM  
Yes the other lie was a lie but this lie however is not a lie.
 
2012-10-02 08:02:26 AM  
States rights! Except when I don't agree with them!
 
2012-10-02 08:02:36 AM  
"State's Rights, but only if we agree with the rights."
 
2012-10-02 08:04:37 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: "State's Rights, but only if we agree with the rights."


The GOP conception of states rights means that their (red) states gets to decide who gets rights.
 
2012-10-02 08:07:22 AM  
More KKKrap from KKKlownhall, brought to you by FarKKK.com!
 
2012-10-02 08:07:43 AM  
The thrust of that article is basically "sure, we've been lying about this, but the fact that you pointed it out makes you a democrat-friendly partisan hack who can't be trusted!"

These idiots are actually starting to push the argument that accurately labeling statements as true or false makes you partisan....

i.qkme.me
 
2012-10-02 08:10:36 AM  
Still trying to push this bald-faced lie, I see...

Despite Fact Checks, Romney Escalates Welfare Work Requirement Charge

Highlight:


So why continue beating this drum?

Partly because people believe it.

"We think that the fact that the work requirement has been taken out of welfare is the wrong thing to do," said Peggy Testa, attending a Tuesday rally near Pittsburgh for Romney running mate Rep. Paul Ryan.

When told that's not actually what had happened, Testa replied: "At this point, don't know exactly what is true and what isn't, OK? But what I do know is I trust the Romney-Ryan ticket, and I do not trust Obama."

...

Pam Malcolm, who attended a Romney rally outside of Cleveland a few months ago, agreed.

"I really don't want to help somebody who just decides, 'Oh, well, I was raised on welfare. I can raise my children on welfare,' " Malcolm said. "I had a cousin who, she is a registered nurse and the stories she told me about people coming in there and having babies just so they could get more on their food stamps and more on their welfare. It's like no, I don't want to take care of those people."
 
2012-10-02 08:11:19 AM  

Jackson Herring: This is his big reveal:

The Obama administration will let liberal state welfare officials water down work requirements as long as they game the system to show a pretend movement from welfare to work.


Ahh, saved me the time of looking up the citation debunking this because I was unwilling to click the link.

The requirements of the waiver are that the state must show that the new alternative programs are more effective at getting people to leave welfare and start working than the traditional model. So apparently this proves that Obama is secretly telling the states to cook the books to show less people on welfare to secretly put more people on welfare. I'm waiting for the next article which will clearly show that Obama stepping up enforcement of immigration laws for criminal offenders is all smoke and mirrors and he's actually been pushing for cartel members to cross the border as much as possible.
 
2012-10-02 08:13:40 AM  
Old News... I love the fact that he's telling defense comnies not to give notice of pending lay offs as perscribed by law because such notices would be given on November 1st. And the best part, he's telling them that we the tax payer will cover any legal bills that result from law suits resulting from not giving this notice. I guess this is just his way of keeping the lawyers employed. fuktard!
 
2012-10-02 08:14:49 AM  

PonceAlyosha: PC LOAD LETTER: "State's Rights, but only if we agree with the rights."

The GOP conception of states rights means that their (red) states gets to decide who gets rights.



Funny Liberals are the exact same way when it comes to gay marriage, pot legalization, and restrictions on gun rights.

/It's almost like neither party gives a shiat about states rights.

Both sides are the same, vote Kodos.
 
2012-10-02 08:15:09 AM  
FTA:
Not exactly. The problem is that PolitiFact.com, The Fact Checker, and a host of others that hand out "Four Pinocchios" or "Pants on Fire" awards have very long noses and very burnt buttocks. They are partisans posing as neutralists.


OK, lets start by damning the source.

then

For example, on this work/welfare question, here's the big fact the fact-checkers missed: The Obama administration will let liberal state welfare officials water down work requirements as long as they game the system to show a pretend movement from welfare to work.
their proof:

The new Obama regulations (TANF-ACF-IM-2010-03) are a blue wish come true. They say HHS will authorize states to set up (1) "career pathways models for TANF recipients that combine learning and work," (2) "projects that test systematically extending the period in which vocational training or job search/readiness programs count toward participation rates," and (3) "a comprehensive universal engagement system in lieu of certain participation rate requirements."

OK, can anyone show where it says that these new rules only apply to "liberal states"

and lastly
farm7.static.flickr.com
 
2012-10-02 08:15:24 AM  

Brick-House: [useless garbage redacted]


Hello, thread-shiatter. You're up early today.
 
2012-10-02 08:17:05 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Brick-House: [useless garbage redacted]

Hello, thread-shiatter. You're up early today.


First week of the month... Disability checks are due in.
 
2012-10-02 08:19:46 AM  
FTFA: "But states can do that by keeping better records of job attainment and by enticing more people to go onto welfare, which will boost the number of those leaving it."

While the article in general is a piece of farce, the statement above is where it loses touch with any semblance of reality. Anyone that's actually been to a social services office can tell you that the only thing the people there would like to "entice you" to do is gtfo their faces so that they don't have to deal with you.

They won't encourage you to get on welfare or food stamps, most of them don't even give a fark about you or your problem, you think they give a shiat if it effects the job numbers?!?

I love how these geniuses go on and on about the vast government conspiracies to enslave the populace via welfare. If they would have actually interacted with a government agency at any point they should be fully aware that they aren't capable of working together to finish a sack race, much less conspire to assist an incumbent president get re-elected through some obscure plot.

If you're going to be insane about an issue, at least be entertaining.
 
2012-10-02 08:20:10 AM  

keylock71: First week of the month... Disability checks are due in.


I think you meant to say "Teat-sucking government entitlement non-bootstrappy handout checks".

I know, typos happen.
 
2012-10-02 08:21:49 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: The thrust of that article is basically "sure, we've been lying about this, but the fact that you pointed it out makes you a democrat-friendly partisan hack who can't be trusted!"

These idiots are actually starting to push the argument that accurately labeling statements as true or false makes you partisan....


Look, can you prove that just because the language of a law or ruling explicitly bans something, all people involved have agreed that this is the case, and the data that results reflects adherence to the law means that they aren't all conspiring together to manipulate the stats in order to make sure the opposite happens without giving their opponents the satisfaction of being proved right?

Obama has been very open since early in the 2008 race that he was dead wrong on welfare reform when it was first introduced and that it has been one of the most successful legacies of the Clinton administration and the 104th Congress. The idea that he wants to gut it when he thinks it was a great thing is fascinating to me.
 
2012-10-02 08:25:05 AM  

THX 1138: keylock71: First week of the month... Disability checks are due in.

I think you meant to say "Teat-sucking government entitlement non-bootstrappy handout checks".

I know, typos happen.


Now, Bricky is as bootstrappy as any good Real American.

Not his fault he can't leave the house without a construction crane knocking down the wall.
 
2012-10-02 08:25:07 AM  

THX 1138: keylock71: First week of the month... Disability checks are due in.

I think you meant to say "Teat-sucking government entitlement non-bootstrappy handout checks".

I know, typos happen.


Sorry, my GOP Translator is on the fritz... : )
 
2012-10-02 08:25:33 AM  

spelletrader: they aren't capable of working together to finish a sack race, much less conspire to assist an incumbent president get re-elected through some obscure plot.


Really? It's not a conspiracy? I find it hard to believe that anyone going on welfare could do anything but immediately proclaim: "My life has now reached such an awesome level of luxury that the only goal I have left is to cast my one vote of three hundred million for the incumbent President!!!"
 
2012-10-02 08:26:32 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: "State's Rights, but only if we agree with the rights."


Yeah, ^THIS^
 
2012-10-02 08:30:07 AM  

moanerific: PonceAlyosha: PC LOAD LETTER: "State's Rights, but only if we agree with the rights."

The GOP conception of states rights means that their (red) states gets to decide who gets rights.


Funny Liberals are the exact same way when it comes to gay marriage, pot legalization, and restrictions on gun rights.


Your first two examples are cases of liberals wanting to give more people more rights.
 
2012-10-02 08:33:05 AM  
No waiver has been requested. No waiver has been approved. End of story.
 
2012-10-02 08:35:07 AM  

thurstonxhowell: moanerific: PonceAlyosha: PC LOAD LETTER: "State's Rights, but only if we agree with the rights."

The GOP conception of states rights means that their (red) states gets to decide who gets rights.


Funny Liberals are the exact same way when it comes to gay marriage, pot legalization, and restrictions on gun rights.

Your first two examples are cases of liberals wanting to give more people more rights.


You're missing the point. He's trying to point out that both sides r teh bad, and that's why you should always and only vote Republican.
 
2012-10-02 08:41:04 AM  
i1162.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-02 08:48:48 AM  
Evidently this is what a Clown Hall reader finds amusing:

i1162.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-02 08:49:12 AM  
Marvin Olasky

I like this guy. A former Communist who worked for GWB and no one on the right gave a damn.


But Van Jones is important because reasons or whatever.
 
2012-10-02 08:53:48 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Brick-House: [useless garbage redacted]

Hello, thread-shiatter. You're up early today.


yep, there is a lot of libtards that need correcting today. ANd you know work requirements is an old story, just trying to keep this current and relevent. So, do you have any libtard - obama kool aid drinking thoughts on his telling the defense companies to violate the law (Warn Act)?
 
2012-10-02 08:55:40 AM  

Brick-House: [useless verbal trash redacted]


Shouldn't you be out spending my hard-earned money, welfare queen?
 
2012-10-02 09:07:38 AM  
Hey, look, a TH link.

Is it Tuesday already?

/DNRTFA.
 
2012-10-02 09:07:59 AM  

stoli n coke: thurstonxhowell: moanerific: PonceAlyosha: PC LOAD LETTER: "State's Rights, but only if we agree with the rights."

The GOP conception of states rights means that their (red) states gets to decide who gets rights.


Funny Liberals are the exact same way when it comes to gay marriage, pot legalization, and restrictions on gun rights.

Your first two examples are cases of liberals wanting to give more people more rights.

You're missing the point. He's trying to point out that both sides r teh bad, and that's why you should always and only vote Republican.


And the third is something liberals gave up on a long time ago.
 
2012-10-02 09:08:29 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Brick-House: [useless verbal trash redacted]

Shouldn't you be out spending my hard-earned money, welfare queen?


Seem now Im just confused. I thought all you libtards loved welfare queens? That Obummer needed to redistribute your money over to them, you know... to be fair. You want to be fair, don't you? FAIR!!!
 
j4x
2012-10-02 09:11:03 AM  
"Fact-checkers are Often Partisans Posing as Neutralists"

WAAAAAH REALITY DOESN'T SUPPORT MY WORLDVIEW
 
2012-10-02 09:11:47 AM  

Brick-House: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Brick-House: [useless verbal trash redacted]

Shouldn't you be out spending my hard-earned money, welfare queen?

Seem now Im just confused. I thought all you libtards loved welfare queens? That Obummer needed to redistribute your money over to them, you know... to be fair. You want to be fair, don't you? FAIR!!!


Man, it's going to suck to be you November 7th.
 
2012-10-02 09:13:11 AM  

Aarontology: Brick-House: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Brick-House: [useless verbal trash redacted]

Shouldn't you be out spending my hard-earned money, welfare queen?

Seem now Im just confused. I thought all you libtards loved welfare queens? That Obummer needed to redistribute your money over to them, you know... to be fair. You want to be fair, don't you? FAIR!!!

Man, it's going to suck to be you November 7th.


if obummer some how wins, it's going to suck to be the whole country. just sayin...
 
2012-10-02 09:17:26 AM  

Aarontology: Brick-House: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Brick-House: [useless verbal trash redacted]

Shouldn't you be out spending my hard-earned money, welfare queen?

Seem now Im just confused. I thought all you libtards loved welfare queens? That Obummer needed to redistribute your money over to them, you know... to be fair. You want to be fair, don't you? FAIR!!!

Man, it's going to suck to be you November 7th.


To be fair, it always sucks to be him. It will just suck a lot more.

/I expect to see a rage spasm of terrible gifs on that Wesnesday.
 
2012-10-02 09:19:10 AM  

Brick-House: if obummer some how wins, it's going to suck to be the whole country. just sayin...

When

Obama wins. When.

BSABSVR: To be fair, it always sucks to be him. It will just suck a lot more.

/I expect to see a rage spasm of terrible gifs on that Wesnesday.


I really can't wait.
 
2012-10-02 09:20:09 AM  

jso2897: More KKKrap from KKKlownhall, brought to you by FarKKK.com!


To be fair, they appear to be Etch-a-skkketching all the kkkrazy shiat they have been kkklaiming for the last few months and re-establishing new avenues of attackkk.

"Reagan's Star Wars program raised the space bar so high as to help finesse the collapse of the Soviet Union. Today, if we want to put a man in space, we must hire the Russians" - Ok so you finally admit that Reagan didn't personally go over to Gorbechov and pants him in front of all the Russian lasses before knocking the Berlin wall down with a smile and a quick dicking. I can accept that you still don't understand the fall of the soviet union, but this is at least a rational discussion. Good for you!

"Yes,Obama did not order a gutting of work requirements, but his administration is urging liberal states to do that"
- Well, it's good to see you've finally stepped back from the *blatant* lie, at least. "Ok ok, so I can't shoot lasers out of my eyes, I made that up. But I bet you I can throw a baseball over a mile!" -_-

This all makes me hopeful because these are just the earmark backtrackings of pathological liars, and not educated students of falsehood and misdirection. This isn't an organized campaign of lies, is what this means. It's just desperation.
 
2012-10-02 09:23:52 AM  

Brick-House: if obummer some how wins


See? This is what I don't understand. All else aside, this assertion isn't supported by reality and yet the Foxtards are convinced that there is more than a small chance.
 
2012-10-02 09:24:51 AM  

Whiskey Pete: See? This is what I don't understand. All else aside, this assertion isn't supported by reality and yet the Foxtards are convinced that there is more than a small chance.


Because it's the reality they want, nay NEED, to be true.
 
2012-10-02 09:25:30 AM  
I'm from a lib. State. Dinner and a movie would have persuaded me to throw out the constitution.
 
2012-10-02 09:31:33 AM  

Aarontology: Whiskey Pete: See? This is what I don't understand. All else aside, this assertion isn't supported by reality and yet the Foxtards are convinced that there is more than a small chance.

Because it's the reality they want, nay NEED, to be true.


I keep hearing about this "silent majority" that will somehow sweep Romney into the White House. Is there a secret network of underground trailer parks housing millions of potential Romney voters?
 
2012-10-02 09:41:31 AM  

Whiskey Pete: I keep hearing about this "silent majority" that will somehow sweep Romney into the White House. Is there a secret network of underground trailer parks housing millions of potential Romney voters?


Apparently. They really bought into their own hype. They think that because after four years the rest of the country hates Obama and the Democrats as much as they do.
 
2012-10-02 09:46:50 AM  

Brick-House: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Brick-House: [useless verbal trash redacted]

Shouldn't you be out spending my hard-earned money, welfare queen?

Seem now Im just confused. I thought all you libtards loved welfare queens?



And I thought you loved keeping the lawyers employed.
 
2012-10-02 09:50:11 AM  

Brick-House: if obummer some how wins, it's going to suck to be the whole country. just sayin...



Well, we're still working on a way to harness conservative poutrage to convert to energy, so yeah, America may still be underpowered.
 
2012-10-02 09:54:51 AM  

Brick-House: Old News... I love the fact that he's telling defense comnies not to give notice of pending lay offs as perscribed by law because such notices would be given on November 1st. And the best part, he's telling them that we the tax payer will cover any legal bills that result from law suits resulting from not giving this notice. I guess this is just his way of keeping the lawyers employed. fuktard!


Good gods, are you a) tired, b) drunk, or c) just stupid? 

/It's always c
 
2012-10-02 10:20:44 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Brick-House: Old News... I love the fact that he's telling defense comnies not to give notice of pending lay offs as perscribed by law because such notices would be given on November 1st. And the best part, he's telling them that we the tax payer will cover any legal bills that result from law suits resulting from not giving this notice. I guess this is just his way of keeping the lawyers employed. fuktard!

Good gods, are you a) tired, b) drunk, or c) just stupid? 

/It's always c


Considering that every browser, be it on a computer, phone, or tablet, has spell check that adds a very obvious red line under misspellings, it has to be intentional. Has to be.
 
2012-10-02 01:00:04 PM  

Brick-House: [meaningless blubbering redacted]


Answer my question you stammering man-whale. Why aren't you out spending my hard-earned money on booze and cigarettes instead of in here posting nonsense? It's the 2nd of the month. I'm certain your welfare check is in. Why aren't you out wasting it?
 
2012-10-02 05:17:21 PM  
Conservapublicans: "Give states more rights."

Obama: "Ok, here you go."

Conservapublicans: "OMG!! It's a power grab! He's passing the buck to the states! It's socialism, somehow. Uhh....ARGHBRGL...Democrat....terroris m!!!"
 
2012-10-02 11:02:04 PM  
"The Obama administration will let liberal state welfare officials water down work requirements as long as they game the system to show a pretend movement from welfare to work."

If states wanted to "game the system" couldn't they do that without any changes in requirements? So if a state does manage to get more people off of welfare and into jobs they'll claim it's a lie?
 
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