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2012-10-02 08:08:28 AM  
If it isnt a Macbook Air, no one gives a shiat about your ultrabook.

These things were doomed from the start. Not only did Apple have serious thunder, then came the tablet craze. Aint no one buying computers out there, but tablets are hot like a mofo
 
2012-10-02 10:16:14 AM  
I bought an ultrabook in August, it's great.
 
2012-10-02 10:22:40 AM  
I already have a tablet, but it's no replacement for a full-featured laptop.
 
2012-10-02 10:23:06 AM  
I'm actually supposed to order a replacement machine of some sort this week for my work laptop, and I'm kind of stuck. I don't mobile device (laptop, tablet, smartphone) support for a university, and I need a machine that can help me with that. The choices are: Dell Latitude E6420/30s or maybe a Latitude 10 (which suck out loud, BTW), pretty much any Apple laptop (including an Air), or an HP 2760p. As much as I despise HP, I'm actually leaning toward the 2760p, just for the "tabletness" of it. Any suggestions?
 
2012-10-02 10:25:53 AM  
Now in Book form!
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2012-10-02 10:27:32 AM  
I'll wait for the Win8 ultrabook before making judgement.

Actually, I'd love to see Wacom get together with Asus and roll out a decent graphics editing tablet or tablet PC. Although I think I just realized a $100 accessory that could turn any tablet into a decent graphics tablet by providing a... no, I can't post that idea, I need to check with my patent attorney over dinner.
 
2012-10-02 10:27:50 AM  

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm actually supposed to order a replacement machine of some sort this week for my work laptop, and I'm kind of stuck. I don't mobile device (laptop, tablet, smartphone) support for a university, and I need a machine that can help me with that. The choices are: Dell Latitude E6420/30s or maybe a Latitude 10 (which suck out loud, BTW), pretty much any Apple laptop (including an Air), or an HP 2760p. As much as I despise HP, I'm actually leaning toward the 2760p, just for the "tabletness" of it. Any suggestions?


HP all the way for any sort of laptop.
 
2012-10-02 10:36:33 AM  
You can take my Acer Aspire One Netbook, I call it "NyetBuk," from my cold dead hand. 

images.amazon.com
 
2012-10-02 10:37:50 AM  

Bukharin: You can take my Acer Aspire One Netbook, I call it "NyetBuk," from my cold dead hand. 

[images.amazon.com image 400x285]


I thought Netbook != Ultrabook
 
2012-10-02 10:44:23 AM  

Bukharin: You can take my Acer Aspire One Netbook, I call it "NyetBuk," from my cold dead hand. 

[images.amazon.com image 400x285]


AO756 for the win. I have one.
 
2012-10-02 10:44:36 AM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: I thought Netbook != Ultrabook


It doesnt.
But because of NyetBuk, I wont be getting an ultrabook or a tablet anytime soon.
VERY happy with NyetBuk. It plays all mt favourite old DOS games, and with some settings tweeks, I can play beefy games like CIV4 too.
 
2012-10-02 10:45:32 AM  

Bukharin: You can take my Acer Aspire One Netbook, I call it "NyetBuk," from my cold dead hand. 

[images.amazon.com image 400x285]


My wife loves hers, and to be honest, for 99% of what most people do, it's great. Also, it's easier to type on it than it is with a tablet.
 
2012-10-02 10:46:51 AM  

Optimal_Illusion: Now in Book form!
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x637]


SUUUUWATCHHHHHH!

I have the entire first series on DVD. It holds up surprisingly well, certainly much better than Johnny Sokko (Giant Robo).
 
2012-10-02 10:48:22 AM  

cman: then came the tablet craze. Aint no one buying computers out there, but tablets are hot like a mofo


about 10% of my students take their class notes on ipads with physical keyboards. makes sense because it's way lighter than a notebook and more useful than those crappy tiny laptops ("netbooks?").

if i were in college, i could see myself buying an ipad and a bluetooth keyboard, which would cover about 75% of what I use a laptop for.

It's just that last 25% that's the kicker.

/macbook airs are pretty sweet though
 
2012-10-02 10:50:04 AM  

cman: If it isnt a Macbook Air, no one gives a shiat about your ultrabook.


I have a Macbook air, and wish I had anything but. Windows 7 is a superior OS. Get over it.
 
2012-10-02 10:50:11 AM  

cman: If it isnt a Macbook Air, no one gives a shiat about your ultrabook.


Yep. But chuck the god-awful Mountain Lion. MacBook Air + Bootcamp + Win 7 Pro 64 = Ultrabook gloriosity.
 
2012-10-02 10:50:29 AM  

dittybopper: Also, it's easier to type on it than it is with a tablet.


Oh, yeah. I pretty much need a real keyboard, both on my phone and on my Nyetbuk.

Although, I am super-interested in a PadPhone.

img.hexus.netandroidandme.com
 
2012-10-02 10:50:36 AM  

Tax Boy: about 10% of my students take their class notes on ipads with physical keyboards. makes sense because it's way lighter than a notebook and more useful than those crappy tiny laptops ("netbooks?").


More useful how? Name something an iPad can do that a netbook can't do.
 
2012-10-02 10:50:46 AM  

H31N0US: cman: If it isnt a Macbook Air, no one gives a shiat about your ultrabook.

I have a Macbook air, and wish I had anything but. Windows 7 is a superior OS. Get over it.


The password is .... "Bootcamp".
 
2012-10-02 10:52:03 AM  

Bukharin: dittybopper: Also, it's easier to type on it than it is with a tablet.

Oh, yeah. I pretty much need a real keyboard, both on my phone and on my Nyetbuk.

Although, I am super-interested in a PadPhone.

[img.hexus.net image 500x376][androidandme.com image 630x364]


I like the concept. I also like how cheap netbooks are....
 
2012-10-02 10:52:22 AM  

H31N0US: I have a Macbook air, and wish I had anything but. Windows 7 is a superior OS. Get over it.


Gosh, if only you could run any OS you wanted on that Macbook Air... But I guess it's just not possible. You better throw it out and tell everyone where.
 
2012-10-02 10:56:20 AM  

dittybopper: I like the concept. I also like how cheap netbooks are....


Oh, I understand cheap. But it would be nice to have the full phone integration that a netbook cant do.
And, when traveling, I assume I could charge the phone while it was inside the tablet, 2 for 1.
Sometimes convenience is worth the price.
 
2012-10-02 10:58:02 AM  

dittybopper: Tax Boy: about 10% of my students take their class notes on ipads with physical keyboards. makes sense because it's way lighter than a notebook and more useful than those crappy tiny laptops ("netbooks?").

More useful how? Name something an iPad can do that a netbook can't do.


* be able to type on with manly fingers instead of on those awful 75%-sized tiny keyboards that most of those netbooks seem to have.

* have a screen bigger than a postage stamp
 
2012-10-02 10:58:52 AM  
SOON....

Asus to launch the Padfone 2 on October 16
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/asus-padfone-2-launch-october-16 /
 
2012-10-02 11:01:27 AM  

Bukharin: dittybopper: I like the concept. I also like how cheap netbooks are....

Oh, I understand cheap. But it would be nice to have the full phone integration that a netbook cant do.
And, when traveling, I assume I could charge the phone while it was inside the tablet, 2 for 1.
Sometimes convenience is worth the price.


True, to a point.

If I have a separate phone and computer, and one of them breaks, I still have the other. If they were integrated into one unit, and that unit broke, I have zero capability, instead of just partial capability. Having had stuff break on me in the past, I just like having the safety that separate devices tends to afford.

That's why I don't have a "DC to Daylight" ham radio rig, I have separate HF, VHF, and UHF rigs. If any one of them breaks, it doesn't affect my ability to use the others.
 
2012-10-02 11:02:13 AM  

dittybopper: Tax Boy: about 10% of my students take their class notes on ipads with physical keyboards. makes sense because it's way lighter than a notebook and more useful than those crappy tiny laptops ("netbooks?").

More useful how? Name something an iPad can do that a netbook can't do.


Let you draw directly on the screen to sketch a figure?

That said, I wouldn't actually use one in a class where you need a lot of formulas or sketching. But, in one where notes are mostly text, I think it'd be great - you have a full screen super fast writing application, with no distractions. You don't have to constantly fight Word's auto corrections or attempts to reformat everything to be "helpful", you don't have pop-ups from other apps, etc. It's all of the focus of a typewriter with all the functionality of a word processor.
 
2012-10-02 11:03:09 AM  

Bukharin: Smoky Dragon Dish: I thought Netbook != Ultrabook

It doesnt.
But because of NyetBuk, I wont be getting an ultrabook or a tablet anytime soon.
VERY happy with NyetBuk. It plays all mt favourite old DOS games, and with some settings tweeks, I can play beefy games like CIV4 too.


Ah, OK. I dig it...
 
2012-10-02 11:06:10 AM  

Tax Boy: dittybopper: Tax Boy: about 10% of my students take their class notes on ipads with physical keyboards. makes sense because it's way lighter than a notebook and more useful than those crappy tiny laptops ("netbooks?").

More useful how? Name something an iPad can do that a netbook can't do.

* be able to type on with manly fingers instead of on those awful 75%-sized tiny keyboards that most of those netbooks seem to have.


You can always plug in a bigger keyboard if you need to. I actually do that with a mouse: I hate those finger-pad controller thingies.

* have a screen bigger than a postage stamp


My wife's netbook has a 10.1" screen, actually a shade larger than an iPad.
 
2012-10-02 11:12:52 AM  

H31N0US: I have a Macbook air, and wish I had anything but. Windows 7 is a superior OS. Get over it.


Not for me. For what I'm doing daily OS X > Linux >>> Windows. But then again I'm doing human genomics work and lots of programming. A full Unix environment + being able to use MS Office + a better GUI environment and software support than Linux is pretty crucial. But I'm constantly in a mixed environment, my workstation, servers, and clusters are all Linux but they are mostly used for simply running jobs.
 
2012-10-02 11:15:19 AM  

dittybopper: More useful how? Name something an iPad can do that a netbook can't do.


Rat you out with a GPS log of your travels when you sync iTunes?
 
2012-10-02 11:16:13 AM  
Acer AO756 . 11.6" LED screen. Dual core based on Intel I3 is super fast. Sandy Bridge about 1500 passmark. 3 pounds. 1.1″ x 11.2″ x 8.0" Windows 7 64 bit. Easy to upgrade RAM or drive, one screw opens the entire back. Goes on sale at Best Buy for $250. For best results get the 4GB version or buy 4GB and put it in. I put a $100 SSD in mine. Even if you upgrade the RAM to 8GB and put in an SSD you are still half the price of the Macbook.

Compare to Macbook Air.
 
2012-10-02 11:24:49 AM  
I can't remember what my ThinkPad qualifies as, but I got it last Christmas and it was worth the $500. It is portable and it works wonderfully.
 
2012-10-02 11:32:35 AM  

Theaetetus: dittybopper: Tax Boy: about 10% of my students take their class notes on ipads with physical keyboards. makes sense because it's way lighter than a notebook and more useful than those crappy tiny laptops ("netbooks?").

More useful how? Name something an iPad can do that a netbook can't do.

Let you draw directly on the screen to sketch a figure?

That said, I wouldn't actually use one in a class where you need a lot of formulas or sketching. But, in one where notes are mostly text, I think it'd be great - you have a full screen super fast writing application, with no distractions. You don't have to constantly fight Word's auto corrections or attempts to reformat everything to be "helpful", you don't have pop-ups from other apps, etc. It's all of the focus of a typewriter with all the functionality of a word processor.


I'm not sure if having a keyboard connected disables it, but the iPad has its own autocorrect that is actually more annoying than Word when it comes to replacing words as you are typing, and it doesn't have nearly the amount of autocorrect customization Word does (you can pretty much tweak any annoyance away in the settings).

Not to mention that iOS is a hell of a lot more distracting than Windows now when it comes to pop up notifications. Sure, you can turn off the pop ups from the Notification Center, but you'll potentially lose some useful notifications in the process. As typically configured, however, an iPad is distracting as hell, especially if you have social network accounts attached to it.

Also,
 
2012-10-02 11:34:28 AM  
Ignore that last Also. Edit fail.
 
2012-10-02 11:47:50 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm actually supposed to order a replacement machine of some sort this week for my work laptop, and I'm kind of stuck. I don't mobile device (laptop, tablet, smartphone) support for a university, and I need a machine that can help me with that. The choices are: Dell Latitude E6420/30s or maybe a Latitude 10 (which suck out loud, BTW), pretty much any Apple laptop (including an Air), or an HP 2760p. As much as I despise HP, I'm actually leaning toward the 2760p, just for the "tabletness" of it. Any suggestions?

HP all the way for any sort of laptop.


LOL!

+1 for making me laugh out loud.
 
kab
2012-10-02 11:49:31 AM  
This article is further proof that folks who use "no one" when it's not applicable should be punched in the throat.
 
2012-10-02 12:00:57 PM  

mcreadyblue: DjangoStonereaver: Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm actually supposed to order a replacement machine of some sort this week for my work laptop, and I'm kind of stuck. I don't mobile device (laptop, tablet, smartphone) support for a university, and I need a machine that can help me with that. The choices are: Dell Latitude E6420/30s or maybe a Latitude 10 (which suck out loud, BTW), pretty much any Apple laptop (including an Air), or an HP 2760p. As much as I despise HP, I'm actually leaning toward the 2760p, just for the "tabletness" of it. Any suggestions?

HP all the way for any sort of laptop.

LOL!

+1 for making me laugh out loud.


I'm not trolling.

My mother and mother in law have had Pavillions for 5+ years without a hitch, and I've got one
as well (a flea market find, no less). Before that, I had a Compaq Presario (which is basically an HP
laptop) which ran Ubuntu just as well.

My mom's ran vista for 3 years without a hitch and upgraded to Win7 painlessly except for not having
the drivers for the onboard card reader (which she doesn't use anyway). My own Pavillion runs
Linux Mint Debian Edition XFCE seamlessly, and every Linux distro I've loaded on HP laptops has
always run flawlessly with zero hardware or driver glitches.

This is very much in contrast with the Dells I have worked with at my job, which crapped out on a lot
of Linux distros for no readily apparent reason and which have been plagued with all sorts of little
oddities under Windows XP.

A lot of people like to slag HP, but I think you're just trolling for its own sake. I have never had a bad
experience with any HP hardware, either computers or printers.
 
2012-10-02 12:02:48 PM  

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: Any suggestions?


Any particular reason you aren't looking at a Thinkpad? Thinkpads are tanks.
 
2012-10-02 12:10:20 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: Any particular reason you aren't looking at a Thinkpad? Thinkpads are tanks.


It's not one of our "standards".

/Which are SINOs (standards in name only) if you're anybody but our office.
 
2012-10-02 12:29:40 PM  

dittybopper: Tax Boy: about 10% of my students take their class notes on ipads with physical keyboards. makes sense because it's way lighter than a notebook and more useful than those crappy tiny laptops ("netbooks?").

More useful how? Name something an iPad can do that a netbook can't do.


Make you fit in with the other hipsters at Starbucks.
 
2012-10-02 12:49:39 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: dittybopper: Tax Boy: about 10% of my students take their class notes on ipads with physical keyboards. makes sense because it's way lighter than a notebook and more useful than those crappy tiny laptops ("netbooks?").

More useful how? Name something an iPad can do that a netbook can't do.

Make you fit in with the other hipsters at Starbucks.


Play 3d video games.

Seriously, netbooks have the shiattiest graphics processors while the iPad has one of the best mobile GPUs on the market today
 
2012-10-02 01:02:28 PM  

H31N0US: cman: If it isnt a Macbook Air, no one gives a shiat about your ultrabook.

I have a Macbook air, and wish I had anything but. Windows 7 is a superior OS. Get over it.


Oh how novel! A fanboi in a tech thread!

Tell us more about the object of your affection!
 
2012-10-02 01:05:55 PM  
Everyone knows Desktops are the best.
The End.

/If I could bring my Desktop to Class I would
 
2012-10-02 01:07:39 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: dittybopper: Tax Boy: about 10% of my students take their class notes on ipads with physical keyboards. makes sense because it's way lighter than a notebook and more useful than those crappy tiny laptops ("netbooks?").

More useful how? Name something an iPad can do that a netbook can't do.

Make you fit in with the other hipsters at Starbucks.


I can out-hipster them:

i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-02 01:09:26 PM  

cman: Play 3d video games.

Seriously, netbooks have the shiattiest graphics processors while the iPad has one of the best mobile GPUs on the market today


Oh, so it's a better at being a toy. Noted.
 
2012-10-02 01:11:27 PM  

H31N0US: I have a Macbook air, and wish I had anything but. Windows 7 is a superior OS. Get over it.


If you actually believed that, you wouldn't have a Macbook air in the first place. And frankly, nobody believes that.

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: I'm actually supposed to order a replacement machine of some sort this week for my work laptop, and I'm kind of stuck. I don't mobile device (laptop, tablet, smartphone) support for a university, and I need a machine that can help me with that. The choices are: Dell Latitude E6420/30s or maybe a Latitude 10 (which suck out loud, BTW), pretty much any Apple laptop (including an Air), or an HP 2760p. As much as I despise HP, I'm actually leaning toward the 2760p, just for the "tabletness" of it. Any suggestions?


Your second sentence doesn't make sense to me- I presume it meant to say that you do mobile device support, not don't. I can't see how notebook selection will impact that. While you didn't specify what mobile platforms you might be supporting, Apple, Google, Windows, and RIM are all platform independent on the support and backend tool side (with the exception of BES, which you wouldn't be running locally anyways).

For commercial class notebooks, I always recommend tier 1- Lenovo, HP, Dell, Apple. Most of the hardware is comparable, but the key is the number in the field and quality of support. If you're in the windows world, Lenovo and HP would be my recommendations, Lenovo if you need more variability on the horsepower or are doing something higher end, and HP if you're looking for a workhorse but are doing pretty standard stuff.

In no case should you buy retail grade, even from HP or Lenovo. Stuff available at Best Buy and the like is designed to have a zillion features stuffed in and meet a price point. In order to do so, the quality and warranty is invariably shiat. They look good on paper, but for anyone that needs their technology reliable (which, quite frankly, is everyone), steer clear.

I'm also always prone to recommend Apple where it is an option, but in an institutional environment, there may well be backend systems that rely on being in a windows world (such as IE and sharepoint).
 
2012-10-02 01:15:24 PM  

dittybopper: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: dittybopper: Tax Boy: about 10% of my students take their class notes on ipads with physical keyboards. makes sense because it's way lighter than a notebook and more useful than those crappy tiny laptops ("netbooks?").

More useful how? Name something an iPad can do that a netbook can't do.

Make you fit in with the other hipsters at Starbucks.

I can out-hipster them:

[i47.tinypic.com image 639x373]


I bow before your superior hipness.
 
2012-10-02 01:22:47 PM  

H31N0US: cman: If it isnt a Macbook Air, no one gives a shiat about your ultrabook.

I have a Macbook air, and wish I had anything but. Windows 7 is a superior OS. Get over it.


I have a Macbook Pro, and I also use Windows 7 with Parallels. I find both to be useful. I would not go so far as to proclaim one more superior then the other. I prefer to spend more time in OS X, but there are some applications I use that are Windows specific, so I switch back and forth as needed.
 
2012-10-02 01:42:45 PM  

dittybopper: Tax Boy: about 10% of my students take their class notes on ipads with physical keyboards. makes sense because it's way lighter than a notebook and more useful than those crappy tiny laptops ("netbooks?").

More useful how? Name something an iPad can do that a netbook can't do.


Play HD-quality H.264 video without it looking like a slideshow, thanks to the hardware decode built into modern ARM chips?

Hell, with the older netbooks I used to own that had the crappy first-gen single-core Intel Atom chipsets, even Hulu would bring the computer to its knees. Maybe Linux is better, but Win XP and Win 7 both sucked balls on the Atoms for anything more than basic office tasks. My wife sold her Aspire One, bought an iPad, and never looked back.
 
2012-10-02 01:45:59 PM  
I went the opposite direction of "ultrabook" - I got an Alienware 17" laptop. It's got more RAM than most of the servers I work with, and with the SSD it goes power off to Windows desktop in 22 seconds.

/heavy as anything
//no wonder they call it "desktop replacement"
 
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