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2012-10-02 08:01:57 AM
Fark me sideways.
 
2012-10-02 08:33:51 AM
Because if there's anything oil speculators respond to, it's a petition.
 
2012-10-02 08:48:57 AM
More Sproul malfeasance. Wow.
 
2012-10-02 08:59:51 AM
If everyone registers as one party, then they won't be able to gerrymander anymore.
 
2012-10-02 09:00:21 AM

Lando Lincoln: If everyone registers as one party, then they won't be able to gerrymander anymore.


Ok, I lol'd.
 
2012-10-02 09:01:13 AM
lower the price of gas! socialism!
 
2012-10-02 09:40:23 AM
HEY, LOOK - MORE REPUBLICAN VOTER registration FRAUD!
 
2012-10-02 09:43:24 AM
Guys, guys, wait, we can't buy this third yacht. Let's just give our profits away to these petitioners instead.
 
2012-10-02 09:45:24 AM

Via Infinito: Lando Lincoln: If everyone registers as one party, then they won't be able to gerrymander anymore.

Ok, I lol'd.


But seriously...

1) Make sure that all 50 states allow for anybody to vote in any primary, regardless of their registration (Illinois already does, I don't know how many do not)
2) Everybody registers as "independent"
3) Politicians can no longer redraw district maps to their favor

Or just abolish the official registration of parties altogether. Nothing good comes from it.
 
2012-10-02 09:46:50 AM
Candidate Richard Roth, who is running for state Senate against the Republican incumbent, is making the alleged fraud a campaign issue. After all, in an unfortunate development for the GOP, Roth is one of the victims whose registration was changed to Republican

"Hi, not only was I dumb enough to sign a petition to lower the cost of gasoline, but I also failed to realize that I was actually signing a voter registration form instead. Vote for me!"
 
2012-10-02 09:50:41 AM
*rolls eyes*
 
2012-10-02 09:51:42 AM

serial_crusher: Candidate Richard Roth, who is running for state Senate against the Republican incumbent, is making the alleged fraud a campaign issue. After all, in an unfortunate development for the GOP, Roth is one of the victims whose registration was changed to Republican

"Hi, not only was I dumb enough to sign a petition to lower the cost of gasoline, but I also failed to realize that I was actually signing a voter registration form instead. Vote for me!"


In all fairness, the "oh, btw, you're now a Republican" bit may have been mouse print on the bottom of the back side of the petition.
 
2012-10-02 10:31:08 AM
I like how Republicans are suddenly all about price controls. Their dear leader Marx must be so proud...
 
2012-10-02 10:38:25 AM
Conservatives rely upon ignorance to maintain power.
 
2012-10-02 10:40:19 AM
FTA: "Some were promised free cigarettes in exchange for signing."

Looseys for Romney / Ryan! With each new drag comes the promise of a better tomorrow!
 
2012-10-02 10:41:30 AM

Lando Lincoln: 3) Politicians can no longer redraw district maps to their favor


They can use demographic statistics to predict your voting trends with over 80% accuracy. They don't need party registration in order to gerrymander. You want to throw off the system? Vote for the person you least want to see in office
 
2012-10-02 10:44:00 AM
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"Hey you want some gum?"

"Sure!"

"Haha now you're a registered Republican!"

"I feel cold.."
 
2012-10-02 10:44:37 AM
you can still vote for Obama if you're registered republican can't you?

what's the purpose of this stuff?
 
2012-10-02 10:45:46 AM
"I'm sure glad you cleared that up, BobGOP, those people were about to buy some Amway products!"
 
2012-10-02 10:46:52 AM

unexplained bacon: you can still vote for Obama if you're registered republican can't you?

what's the purpose of this stuff?


Same reason Rasmussen lies and skews their dogsh*t polls - to give the perception of the upper hand.
 
2012-10-02 10:47:46 AM
As an outsider what is the point of getting people to be registered republican?
Surely they can still vote for Obama and the republicans are just conning themselves into thinking more people support them than actually do.
 
2012-10-02 10:48:39 AM

goatan: As an outsider what is the point of getting people to be registered republican?
Surely they can still vote for Obama and the republicans are just conning themselves into thinking more people support them than actually do.


If only the reasons were listed in the article. If only.
 
2012-10-02 10:49:06 AM

serial_crusher: Candidate Richard Roth, who is running for state Senate against the Republican incumbent, is making the alleged fraud a campaign issue. After all, in an unfortunate development for the GOP, Roth is one of the victims whose registration was changed to Republican

"Hi, not only was I dumb enough to sign a petition to lower the cost of gasoline, but I also failed to realize that I was actually signing a voter registration form instead. Vote for me!"


Wouldn't put it past them to forge his signature.

But still, yeah, that's not something I'd advertise.
 
2012-10-02 10:50:18 AM

goatan: As an outsider what is the point of getting people to be registered republican?
Surely they can still vote for Obama and the republicans are just conning themselves into thinking more people support them than actually do.


Name/address/email/phone lists, plus there is a significant correlation between registration and straight-ticket voting
 
2012-10-02 10:51:08 AM
Well, I voted in the GOP primary in Michigan so I could vote for Rick Santorum. Feel somewhat dirty for having done it, but hey, whatever prolongs the hilarity.
 
2012-10-02 10:51:58 AM

andrewagill: serial_crusher: Candidate Richard Roth, who is running for state Senate against the Republican incumbent, is making the alleged fraud a campaign issue. After all, in an unfortunate development for the GOP, Roth is one of the victims whose registration was changed to Republican

"Hi, not only was I dumb enough to sign a petition to lower the cost of gasoline, but I also failed to realize that I was actually signing a voter registration form instead. Vote for me!"

Wouldn't put it past them to forge his signature.

But still, yeah, that's not something I'd advertise.


Why not? It's perfect. Shows that the fraud was so hidden in took in everyone.
 
2012-10-02 10:54:29 AM

coeyagi: unexplained bacon: you can still vote for Obama if you're registered republican can't you?

what's the purpose of this stuff?

Same reason Rasmussen lies and skews their dogsh*t polls - to give the perception of the upper hand.


ok, but it seems to me they're skewing their own numbers this way.
after all this BS every time they do a head count they'll have a false number with no real way to separate the actual GOPers from the people the tricked.
I guess they figure the perception they're creating is more important than reality...not to shocking there.

you know you've got a quality organization when you have to boost your rolls by tricking people who probably hate you into signing on.
 
2012-10-02 10:54:30 AM
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Commodity pricing does not work that way!

/hot link cooled by Dutch windmills
 
2012-10-02 10:54:56 AM

Satanic_Hamster: goatan: As an outsider what is the point of getting people to be registered republican?
Surely they can still vote for Obama and the republicans are just conning themselves into thinking more people support them than actually do.

If only the reasons were listed in the article. If only.


Oh, come on. You don't need to be a dick about it. Here's what the article says:

How would such fraud help Republicans? First of all, inflating their numbers means that there will be more unclaimed chicken dinners in the annual Republican Party dinner. Secondly, the party will have more people to choose from for the Miss White California contest.
 
2012-10-02 10:56:19 AM

Lost Thought 00: there is a significant correlation between registration and straight-ticket voting


Oh! I'm a Republican now? I guess that means I vote for the other guy.
 
2012-10-02 10:57:15 AM

coeyagi: FTA: "Some were promised free cigarettes in exchange for signing."

Looseys for Romney / Ryan! With each new drag comes the promise of a better tomorrow!


This sounds illegal
 
2012-10-02 10:57:29 AM
The thing that angers me, is this shenanigans happens every election cycle and the 'liberal media' isn't screaming their collective heads off. No, no, its all about photo ID and Acorn and...

nevermind
forget it
I give up.
 
2012-10-02 10:57:32 AM
Wow. For all the GOP harping about the need for voter ID laws to prevent voter fraud, it sure seems like virtually every case of voter fraud in the country involves GOP operatives.
 
2012-10-02 10:57:43 AM
Where do I sign. These gas prices are killing me, Mr. President.
 
2012-10-02 10:58:41 AM

Lost Thought 00: goatan: As an outsider what is the point of getting people to be registered republican?
Surely they can still vote for Obama and the republicans are just conning themselves into thinking more people support them than actually do.

Name/address/email/phone lists, plus there is a significant correlation between registration and straight-ticket voting


that correlation couldn't possibly stand when the registered person in question was tricked into registering and may not even realize it happened. right?

I don't think spamming these people after fraudulently signing them up would be a net positive either, but they must think this stuff is worth it for a reason I suppose. I just don't get it.
 
2012-10-02 11:00:27 AM

Cletus C.: Where do I sign. These gas prices are killing me, Mr. President.


give him a call and have him pull the "lower gas prices" lever
 
2012-10-02 11:00:32 AM
The GOP is the greatest domestic threat to the United States since the Civil War.
 
2012-10-02 11:00:42 AM

goatan: As an outsider what is the point of getting people to be registered republican?
Surely they can still vote for Obama and the republicans are just conning themselves into thinking more people support them than actually do.


Came here to say this. I can see it being useful for redistricting purposes, and could freeze a lot of voters out of the democratic primary (I forget if CA is a closed system for that), but it's not like secretly changing my registration is going to make me suddenly vote straight-ticket Republican in the general election.

This strikes me as an almost textbook example of how we should care far more about fraudulent votes than about fraudulent voter registration.
 
2012-10-02 11:02:43 AM
So ... then Democrats can vote in the Republican primaries? Michelle Bachmann come on down! You are the next contestant on "Let's Run this Farker Over a Cliff"!
 
2012-10-02 11:04:56 AM
I don't get why they're doing it, but one thing is for sure...

messing around with people's registration, tricking them, getting them to sign things they don't agree with for any reason at all is absolutely ridiculous.

The GOP could not be more awful....dammit, I feel like they'll prove me wrong in the near future
 
2012-10-02 11:05:11 AM
well, Republicans do have to keep Freedom alive. Their Freedom anyways.
 
2012-10-02 11:06:11 AM

Citrate1007: The GOP is the greatest domestic threat to the United States since the Civil War.



the most dangerous enemies of any Republic are those that come from within, not without.
 
2012-10-02 11:06:30 AM

andrewagill: Lost Thought 00: there is a significant correlation between registration and straight-ticket voting

Oh! I'm a Republican now? I guess that means I vote for the other guy.


You laugh, but spam people enough and you can get them to do anything. Remember, you only need 3-5% to actually change their vote in order to swing an election
 
2012-10-02 11:08:36 AM
Further proof that the GOP is on its way out the door.
 
2012-10-02 11:09:56 AM

Lando Lincoln: If everyone registers as one party, then they won't be able to gerrymander anymore.


They'd still use demographics.

They already offset minorities and the poor with voters from wealthier areas.
 
2012-10-02 11:09:56 AM
This just might back-fire. If a large number of those now registered Republicans vote for Obama it will look like there was a huge defection of GOPers to the liberal side.
 
2012-10-02 11:10:23 AM

Lost Thought 00: andrewagill: Lost Thought 00: there is a significant correlation between registration and straight-ticket voting

Oh! I'm a Republican now? I guess that means I vote for the other guy.

You laugh, but spam people enough and you can get them to do anything. Remember, you only need 3-5% to actually change their vote in order to swing an election


I figure that sort of spamming would motivate as many people to go against you out of spite as it would trick into voting for you....I know I'd be offended and looking to hit back.
 
2012-10-02 11:12:50 AM

Lando Lincoln: Or just abolish the official registration of parties altogether. Nothing good comes from it.


There is no reason for a voter to be in a political party. Political parties are for organized cooperation in passing laws and campaigning for election. I.e. they're for the politician, not the voter.
 
2012-10-02 11:13:01 AM

Linux_Yes: Further proof that the GOP is on its way out the door.


I think so too. This is not the kind of thing a strong party would need to do....add to that the voter ID laws they're putting up and I see a party with one foot in the grave.

I think we'll end up with a fractured right if this keeps up, and that's a good thing for the Dems.
 
2012-10-02 11:13:06 AM

Tommy Moo: Wow. For all the GOP harping about the need for voter ID laws to prevent voter fraud, it sure seems like virtually every case of voter fraud in the country involves GOP operatives.


Citrate1007: The GOP is the greatest domestic threat to the United States since the Civil War.



These.
 
2012-10-02 11:13:38 AM

impaler: Lando Lincoln: Or just abolish the official registration of parties altogether. Nothing good comes from it.

There is no reason for a voter to be in a political party. Political parties are for organized cooperation in passing laws and campaigning for election. I.e. they're for the politician, not the voter.


agree 100%
 
2012-10-02 11:23:27 AM
A scoundrel identified as "Nathan Sproul"
Has been mired in machinations most foul:
For a resounding victory,
He'd register an "R" in lieu of a "D"...
Isn't it time the GOP threw in the towel?
 
2012-10-02 11:44:26 AM
^--- worst. haiku. ever.
 
2012-10-02 12:04:51 PM

From the article:

Statewide, Democratic voter registration in California is in decline. Thirty percent of voters are now listed as Democrats as opposed to 32% in 2008. It was awfully suspicious, then, when Democrat registrations in Riverside County jumped by 35,000 this year, seemingly giving them an advantage of 51,000 voters over Republicans. It turns out that thousands of Republicans have been re-registered as Democrats without their permission.

A Democratic voter outreach program named 'The Golden State Voter Participation Project' stationed workers outside of stores and welfare offices to sign people up. Republican activists are alleging fraud and have given the county registrar of voters 133 affidavits from Republicans, many of whom are Latino or African American, who state that they were wrongly re-registered as Democrats. Many were presented with documents that were misrepresented. One thought he was signing a petition to lower the price of gasoline, another that he was supporting the legalization of marijuana. Some were promised free cigarettes in exchange for signing*.


*I looked at the other instances of this happening in Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado and Nevada, and I'm all "My gut is telling me that something just doesn't look right". So I unskewed the above story by swapping the words "Democrats" and "Republicans". Yay for new math!
 
2012-10-02 12:36:26 PM
Being a registered republican *is* insurance against disenfranchising, so there's that.
 
2012-10-02 01:32:58 PM

Lando Lincoln: Via Infinito: Lando Lincoln: If everyone registers as one party, then they won't be able to gerrymander anymore.

Ok, I lol'd.

But seriously...

1) Make sure that all 50 states allow for anybody to vote in any primary, regardless of their registration (Illinois already does, I don't know how many do not)
2) Everybody registers as "independent"
3) Politicians can no longer redraw district maps to their favor

Or just abolish the official registration of parties altogether. Nothing good comes from it.


That actually sounds fantastic, but I don't see it ever happening on a national scale.
(I really thought you were kidding with the previous comment...)
 
2012-10-02 02:16:42 PM

Lando Lincoln: Make sure that all 50 states allow for anybody to vote in any primary, regardless of their registration (Illinois already does, I don't know how many do not)


Do you mean let everybody vote in every primary, or do they still have to pick one per election? Or, do it like Texas where you vote in one and then become "affiliated with" that party for (some number of) years, and can't vote in the other party's primary until that period's over.

I mean, the idea of primaries is for the parties to determine who they're throwing their support behind. If you're not a member of a given party, you really have no business voting in their primaries.

As far as gerrymandering goes, can't they do that based on other factors like race and average income?
 
2012-10-02 03:41:57 PM

serial_crusher: Lando Lincoln: Make sure that all 50 states allow for anybody to vote in any primary, regardless of their registration (Illinois already does, I don't know how many do not)

Do you mean let everybody vote in every primary, or do they still have to pick one per election? Or, do it like Texas where you vote in one and then become "affiliated with" that party for (some number of) years, and can't vote in the other party's primary until that period's over.

I mean, the idea of primaries is for the parties to determine who they're throwing their support behind. If you're not a member of a given party, you really have no business voting in their primaries.

As far as gerrymandering goes, can't they do that based on other factors like race and average income?


I mean that when you go to vote in the primaries, you can choose one and only one ballot, but you don't have to choose the ballot of the party that you're registered with.

And yeah, I didn't think about them gerrymandering by race and income and age and all of that.
 
2012-10-02 05:10:32 PM
I always wondered what possible benefit there could be to registering someone under the wrong party.This article finally gave me a good answer. GOTV efforts tend to target one party. If you mislabel enough Democrats, some will not vote because they haven't been contacted by a Democratic GOTV worker. Kind of genius in a totally dickish way.
 
2012-10-02 05:26:43 PM
Gotta love Republicans. They manage to push voter ID laws in several states, claiming publicly that it's to ensure the integrity of the election process even as they cheer in their own rallies about disenfranchising specific sections of the population, even as the organizations they send out push voter registration fraud in some of the very states in which they pitched voter ID laws.

Evil? Yeah, but, then again, they are Republicans. It's also ballsy, in a "walked up to you, slapped you, took your keys, and stole your car in broad daylight" kind of way.

All this so that, when the ballots are once again disputed, the Bush cronies backing Romney, and their lawyers, can escalate the case to SCOTUS so our partisan non-partisans can once again hand the country over to a friggin' moron and giggle as that moron drives it over a financial cliff.
 
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