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(Sun Sentinel)   The city of Delray, Florida will no longer hire people who regularly use tobacco products in order to keep health insurance premiums low   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 25
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2012-10-02 10:05:35 AM
3 votes:
"The city of Delray, Florida will no longer hire people who regularly use tobacco products in order to keep health insurance premiums low"

I wouldn't hire them either. They'd have to be some special kind of stupid to use tobacco products in order to keep health insurance premiums low.
gja [TotalFark]
2012-10-02 10:09:35 AM
2 votes:
Dear subby,
Go give a shotgun a blowjob.

/no, really
2012-10-02 10:05:01 AM
2 votes:
Marijuana, Heroin, Oxy, Cocaine and Kool Aid still acceptable
2012-10-02 02:07:03 PM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: IRQ12: Good on those of you applauding the removal of private/personal choice for increased profits for the insurance companies!

Nothing has been removed. You can go work elsewhere or self employ and buy your own insurance if you choose to be a smoker.


whoa. At first I misread that as "want birth control for contraceptive purposes" and was wondering what the world had come to. Now I see that you said "choose to be a smoker".
2012-10-02 01:28:39 PM
1 votes:

Mishno: stonelotus: hiring stupid people still okay.

They're actually selecting for a higher proportion of non-stupid people by refusing to hire smokers. This is a true statement, statistically, the lower a person's intelligence is, the more likely it is they are a smoker.


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2012-10-02 12:22:09 PM
1 votes:

Dafuq: All you people saying that fat people should be discrimitated against aren't looking at the big picture. No one forces you to smoke, but you still have to eat. Healthy eating is way more expensive than eating processed crap that causes obesity. I didn't eat a lot myself, but was 270 on the scale. I changed my diet and have lost 50 pounds so far. My grocery bill is also up about $70 a week. My sister was was very big herself. She didn't eat a lot, as her family was very poor. What they could afford to eat is what caused the weight gain. No amount of exercise will cause you to loose that much weight if you still eat like crap. Their second daughter is very active in sports, but still chunky.

Smokers know the risks when they start smoking. They can suck it.


WTF sorts of "healthy foods" are you buying at the grocery stores to make this excuse? My weekly grocery bill for my bf and I is lower than my weekly junk food/eating out tab was when I lived alone and was obese. That means I pay less now to feed two people than I used to spend just to feed myself. Some weeks we spend over $20 on fruit alone. Healthy eating requires much more effort than junky/process/convenience eating but it is not truly more expensive.

I suppose a person could live exclusively on ramen noodles or kraft mac n cheese and see their bills go up when they start eating real food, but pasta, rice and beans are fairly healthy staples and they are even cheaper. Most obese people don't get that way eating ramen. There's usually some expensive soda or fast food involved.
2012-10-02 12:17:25 PM
1 votes:

cig-mkr: Perhaps they should review people with children too, kids cost a lot of money to keep healthy.


especially the fat ones.
2012-10-02 12:01:53 PM
1 votes:
How does the city of Delray feel about purple drank?

/asking for a friend
2012-10-02 11:36:34 AM
1 votes:

cman: Wow, subs, its too damn early for this kind of trollin


Trolling? I kind of doubt that. The fortune 500 company I work for introduced a new 50 dollar a month premium increase for all tobacco users. Glad they have given me a 51% salary increase over the last 18 months to make up for it.
2012-10-02 11:24:15 AM
1 votes:

MikeMc: You know who takes the most sick days? Smokers? Nope. Fat chicksGolfers.

2012-10-02 11:22:14 AM
1 votes:
You know who takes the most sick days? Smokers? Nope. Fat chicks.
2012-10-02 10:44:56 AM
1 votes:

GCD: Here's a question for all of you:

Would you WILLINGLY pay to cover someone who deliberately harmed themselves by hacking off a limb?

I'm willing to guess the answer there is going to be "No".


Would you WILLINGLY pay to cover someone who deliberately harmed themselves by joining and armed service and getting deployed in a war zone?

/wow, this is fun!
2012-10-02 10:31:17 AM
1 votes:

Cheron: As a nonsmoker I think this is a bad idea. Can they also not hire some one who eats fast food, rides a bike without a helmet or has multiple sex partners? When we use health cost as a measuring stick we can restrict all sorts of legal behavior because they statistically increase risk.


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2012-10-02 10:28:13 AM
1 votes:

Cheron: As a nonsmoker I think this is a bad idea. Can they also not hire some one who eats fast food, rides a bike without a helmet or has multiple sex partners? When we use health cost as a measuring stick we can restrict all sorts of legal behavior because they statistically increase risk.


Well, the alternative is they just stop paying for health care. Except they can't really do that anymore.


Single payer, please!
2012-10-02 10:25:22 AM
1 votes:
Wouldn't it just be cheaper and easier to round up all the smokers, fatties, drinkers and regular drug users (legal and illegal) and gas them? While we're at it, we can also round up rock climbers, motorcycle riders, and "extreme" sports people and gas them too. That way there will only be healthy people who are not "at risk" sitting in their cubicles slaving away. Heck, we'll all live forever and not cost the system a dime, existing solely to make a profit for the State. We can all be heroes and wear our hero tags on our healthy and safe drone asses.
2012-10-02 10:18:56 AM
1 votes:

badhatharry: Egoy3k: So if someone were to irregularly use tobacco then what? I mean what if they give themselves snuff suppositories or something?

It will show up on your drug test.


so only use high powered stimulants that don't show up. like methiopropamine!!!!!
2012-10-02 10:17:03 AM
1 votes:
So it's ok to deny employment to smokers, but what about fat people? Would as many people agree with denying the obese as they do smoking? I don't smoke anymore, and wish I had never started, but it's the principle of the matter. If a city government can do this, then where will the line be drawn?

435,000 deaths caused by smoking.

400,000 deaths caused by obesity.

If you ban smoking, then you will have to get rid of the snack machine in the break room. All this is going to do is have people lying about smoking to get a job and piss off the people who don't want to lie.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/6438.php
2012-10-02 10:13:13 AM
1 votes:
So if someone were to irregularly use tobacco then what? I mean what if they give themselves snuff suppositories or something?
2012-10-02 10:08:40 AM
1 votes:
"We AAAAAALLLLLL bundle."
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2012-10-02 10:06:33 AM
1 votes:
I refuse to hire anyone who cannot count to potato. Out also are those who cannot demonstrate multi-tasking skills by texting and driving at the same time.
2012-10-02 10:03:47 AM
1 votes:
I can just feel the compassion and the thoughtful, well-written comments bubbling up in this thread.
2012-10-02 10:03:40 AM
1 votes:
Cool!
When can we start discriminating against fat people now that it's all about health?
2012-10-02 10:03:39 AM
1 votes:
What if they regularly use tobacco products for some other reason than healthcare costs?
2012-10-02 10:00:05 AM
1 votes:
Troll, troll, troll your Fark
Be a stupid ass, ...

Law suit in 5... 4... 3...
2012-10-02 09:59:16 AM
1 votes:
The city of Delray, Florida will no longer hire people who regularly use tobacco products or are female in order to keep health insurance premiums low

There. Enhanced It For You.
 
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