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2012-10-01 08:54:26 PM
He didn't shoot her and he didn't tase her. Not even pepper spray. What do you people want?
 
2012-10-01 08:57:41 PM
The sound of getting her bell rung like that will undoubtedly sounds like a cash register soon.

sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-10-01 09:00:39 PM
Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".
 
2012-10-01 09:03:03 PM
This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.
 
2012-10-01 09:03:08 PM

Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".


Judging by the uniform, I'd say "Captain" is more apt.
 
2012-10-01 09:06:58 PM
Even if she did hit him with silly string (and I see very little evidence of that), what kind of dickbag do you have to be where your first reaction is to strike someone in the face?
 
2012-10-01 09:11:04 PM

vartian: what kind of dickbag do you have to be where your first reaction is to strike someone in the face?


A cop.
 
2012-10-01 09:16:21 PM
Douchebag should be in jail on assault charges
 
2012-10-01 09:16:24 PM

Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".


nah, pretty easy actually. during the mandatory search at the police station, a quantity of drugs was found in this persons possessions. enough to lock them up for a couple/few years. however, the cops talked to the DA's office - if the victim signs off on the lawsuit AND agrees to a gag order, then no drug charges will be filed. everyone walks away clean!

easy-peasey up and easy.
 
2012-10-01 09:19:05 PM
The City Of Brotherly Love Unchecked Cop Brutality?
 
2012-10-01 09:19:47 PM

GAT_00: A cop.


Kind of set that one up, eh?
 
2012-10-01 09:20:20 PM

Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".


No, no, no. You have to look at it from the prospective that the lowest common denominator will. You know, White, lower class America.

She was a woman who didn't shut her mouth.

No American would ever convict a man for doing that. It's out of love, not abuse, you see.

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2012-10-01 09:20:34 PM

vartian: GAT_00: A cop.

Kind of set that one up, eh?


A tad. I wasn't about to let it go to waste though.
 
2012-10-01 09:25:56 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Judging by the uniform, I'd say "Captain" is more apt.


Yeah. This isn't an average patrolman. If it were a reaction punch I could see where maybe she shouldn't have done that, but that farker went after her.
 
2012-10-01 09:29:45 PM
She was in Philly. She ain't shot.

I'd call it a W for her.

Extra bonus, lawsuit. (Or, hopefully, an apology in the form of a nice dinner and a fruit basket. Punitive lawsuits damage everyone.)
 
2012-10-01 09:30:03 PM
This kind of shiat is going to happen more and more often and people are starting to fight back.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
 
2012-10-01 09:44:01 PM
Yes, ladies, they call him "Mr. Right," but he's got a good jab too.
 
2012-10-01 09:49:15 PM
What, exactly, does one expect to happen when shooting silly string at a cop?
 
2012-10-01 09:50:57 PM
Cops being cops. Why are people surprised by this sort of crap. They are thugs in uniforms.

Know who else were thugs in uniforms?
 
2012-10-01 09:51:51 PM

Calmamity: This kind of shiat is going to happen more and more often and people are starting to fight back.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.


honestly, I think the best way to 'fight back' is to just film it and upload to the internet soon as you can. we're already living in a 'surveillance society' and we can't stuff the technological genie back in the bottle. might as well push this thing further and make sure law enforcement and the elites are open source as well. sure, they'll pitch a fit about it but..they'll find it difficult to write a 'rich person/law enforcement' only provision into the law and they end up protecting all us little folks in the process. And if they don't change the law, then everyone else will get to monitor the cops and elites in real time just like they want to watch us. And then everyone is happy.
 
2012-10-01 09:52:49 PM

bulldg4life: What, exactly, does one expect to happen when shooting silly string at a cop?



Being hit by a guy with a red clown nose.
 
2012-10-01 09:55:19 PM
The most f*cked up thing is he'll still get laid even after this is broadcast.
 
2012-10-01 09:56:39 PM

snuff3r: Cops being cops. Why are people surprised by this sort of crap. They are thugs in uniforms.

Know who else were thugs in uniforms?



sharetv.org
 
2012-10-01 09:56:49 PM
Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority.
 
2012-10-01 09:58:14 PM
PIG TRIFECTA IN PLAY!


/This should be a fun thread
 
2012-10-01 09:58:18 PM

spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.


I'm pretty sure there is a law in PA that prohibits video of the cops
Link
 
2012-10-01 09:59:43 PM

spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.



He should loose a body part.

Let her choose which one.
 
2012-10-01 10:02:35 PM
Just lucky she didn't get shot. Jebus!
 
2012-10-01 10:02:50 PM
Just because that dopey chick turned her back right before getting slugged doesn't make that a sucker punch. The Shoalin Tinkerbell defense is no match for a good slip
 
2012-10-01 10:02:52 PM
Although his method of controlling the suspect was a bit farked up, when she turned away from him, she did have what appeared to be a can of Silly String in her left hand and can be seen laying on the ground at her feet after being cold-cocked.

/wrong response
//right asshole
 
2012-10-01 10:06:29 PM

whyRpeoplesostupid: spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.

I'm pretty sure there is a law in PA that prohibits video of the cops
Link


And what makes anyone think that just because this was filmed the cop gets punished? When do cops ever get punished for the crap they pull? He's going to get a paid vacation.
 
2012-10-01 10:06:53 PM

Weaver95: Calmamity: This kind of shiat is going to happen more and more often and people are starting to fight back.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

honestly, I think the best way to 'fight back' is to just film it and upload to the internet soon as you can. we're already living in a 'surveillance society' and we can't stuff the technological genie back in the bottle. might as well push this thing further and make sure law enforcement and the elites are open source as well. sure, they'll pitch a fit about it but..they'll find it difficult to write a 'rich person/law enforcement' only provision into the law and they end up protecting all us little folks in the process. And if they don't change the law, then everyone else will get to monitor the cops and elites in real time just like they want to watch us. And then everyone is happy.


I was with you up until "everyone is happy". I for one am decidedly unhappy to be living in a society where the fact that technology has made it easier to watch people has led most of them to believe that the privacy rights granted by the Constitution are just words on a piece of paper.
 
2012-10-01 10:19:15 PM

whyRpeoplesostupid: spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.

I'm pretty sure there is a law in PA that prohibits video of the cops
Link


Turns out the sound part is illegal
 
2012-10-01 10:23:00 PM
Here's the thing with the use of force.

She wasn't resisting, she wasn't fighting, she wasn't doing a damn thing but turning her back on the officer. The punch was totally unnecessary and the guy should be fired.
 
2012-10-01 10:30:35 PM

whyRpeoplesostupid: spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.

I'm pretty sure there is a law in PA that prohibits video of the cops
Link


Nope... Though some cops may prefer otherwise. Note: "If an arrest is to be made of a citizen for videotaping officers in public it should be related to an officer's concerns other than a desire to prevent the taping." The article goes on to explain how they can manufacture some conditions to make an arrest, but they might be advised to be sure that this too isn't being recorded unless they have a real case for it. Have a look at the DoJ perspective.
 
2012-10-01 10:34:08 PM

whyRpeoplesostupid: Turns out the sound part is illegal


Won't hold up, those attempts are failing all over the place, read my DoJ link. Police have no expectation of privacy in the performance of their duties, nor should they.
 
2012-10-01 10:36:25 PM

4tehsnowflakes: I was with you up until "everyone is happy". I for one am decidedly unhappy to be living in a society where the fact that technology has made it easier to watch people has led most of them to believe that the privacy rights granted by the Constitution are just words on a piece of paper.


You do know that there's no legal expectation of privacy when in public right? Its not like you can take a dump in the middle of the street and expect that people should look the other way to respect your privacy... Doesn't work like that.
 
2012-10-01 10:37:25 PM
35 posts and not one mention of blaming a political side.

We are getting better, guys. Lets keep this up
 
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2012-10-01 10:41:20 PM
Very clearly at seconds 2 & 3 can a man be seen throwing what looks like water at the cops from the extreme left of the screen.

Suppose you thought a small frame policewoman splashed you with water, so you punched her in the face while she was looking away from you. You knock her to the ground then jerk the policewoman's arms up behind her so that her rotator cuffs in her shoulders tear (common practice by police and can be seen in the video). What would you expect would happen to you as an average citizen? Would you expect to walk away? Would you expect jail time?

Why do police have more protection under the law when they commit brutal acts than anyone else on the street?
 
2012-10-01 10:44:12 PM
I say the best punishment for the cop would be to receive a sucker punch from Mike Tyson.
Put it on pay per view and give the proceeds to the woman.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-10-01 10:45:55 PM

spqr_ca: You do know that there's no legal expectation of privacy when in public right?


That's only partly true. In some parts of the country the police have the right to privacy in public places. In some places it's against the law to video record police doing their jobs. Maryland was one of those places until a court overturned it. Maryland would charge people videoing police with wiretapping. Which is a ten year prison sentence.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-10-01 10:46:57 PM

GGracie: I say the best punishment for the cop would be to receive a sucker punch from Mike Tyson.
Put it on pay per view and give the proceeds to the woman.


Eye for an eye. I like it.
 
2012-10-01 10:56:23 PM

NFA: spqr_ca: You do know that there's no legal expectation of privacy when in public right?

That's only partly true. In some parts of the country the police have the right to privacy in public places. In some places it's against the law to video record police doing their jobs. Maryland was one of those places until a court overturned it. Maryland would charge people videoing police with wiretapping. Which is a ten year prison sentence.


Worth a read... DoJ Letter

I think, should this happen to you, you might well be advised to appeal up and out of the state. As you noted "until a court overturned it" is very important, the Police may be trying, but the legal system is denying them. The problem is the public doesn't really seem to know their rights, so they easily give them up with pleading lesser charges. Being an avid photographer, I dig into this stuff because it's relevant, even though I'm not a US citizen or resident. I do travel, quite a bit, and so I do research on this. For myself, I have no interest in videography, let alone the videography of police, but I do like to know if I face restrictions using my camera in public and for the most part, many of the "restrictions" we hear of are made up and false by people who think they know, but don't.
 
2012-10-01 11:00:42 PM

NFA: spqr_ca: You do know that there's no legal expectation of privacy when in public right?

That's only partly true. In some parts of the country the police have the right to privacy in public places. In some places it's against the law to video record police doing their jobs. Maryland was one of those places until a court overturned it. Maryland would charge people videoing police with wiretapping. Which is a ten year prison sentence.


A federal appeals court (1st Circuit) has held pretty squarely that there is a right to record the police in public, and the number of states with statutes that expressly prohibit it are a small minority. The tide really seems to be turning against the idea that people can be arrested for filming the police in public. Of course that may not stop Officer Friendly from dishing out a beatdown if you fail to respect his/her authority obstruct the officer in the course of an investigation.
 
2012-10-01 11:02:35 PM

spqr_ca: NFA: spqr_ca: You do know that there's no legal expectation of privacy when in public right?

That's only partly true. In some parts of the country the police have the right to privacy in public places. In some places it's against the law to video record police doing their jobs. Maryland was one of those places until a court overturned it. Maryland would charge people videoing police with wiretapping. Which is a ten year prison sentence.

Worth a read... DoJ Letter

I think, should this happen to you, you might well be advised to appeal up and out of the state. As you noted "until a court overturned it" is very important, the Police may be trying, but the legal system is denying them. The problem is the public doesn't really seem to know their rights, so they easily give them up with pleading lesser charges. Being an avid photographer, I dig into this stuff because it's relevant, even though I'm not a US citizen or resident. I do travel, quite a bit, and so I do research on this. For myself, I have no interest in videography, let alone the videography of police, but I do like to know if I face restrictions using my camera in public and for the most part, many of the "restrictions" we hear of are made up and false by people who think they know, but don't.


Yeah, different laws in different states. You're probably right though to get the Feds to take a look at it

BTW cold clocks

Isn't it cold cocks?
 
2012-10-01 11:04:46 PM
This was at a "puerto rican day" parade. I thought it was just part of the ritual.
 
2012-10-01 11:06:39 PM

whyRpeoplesostupid:


BTW cold clocks

Isn't it cold cocks?


For all intensive purposes they mean the same thing
 
2012-10-01 11:07:13 PM

whyRpeoplesostupid: Yeah, different laws in different states. You're probably right though to get the Feds to take a look at it


Then, afterwards, sue the shiat out of them. The one thing that will put an end to false arrests on this is money, always money. When money become involved, the cops who don't toe the line don't stay employed.
 
2012-10-01 11:08:06 PM

Amos Quito: spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.


He should loose a body part.


bow chicka wow wow.....
 
2012-10-01 11:13:10 PM
No excuse for that. I don't even care if the cop says "she said she 'had a (insert gun, bomb etc...here)'"
 
2012-10-01 11:13:40 PM

One Bad Apple: whyRpeoplesostupid:


BTW cold clocks

Isn't it cold cocks?

For all intensive purposes they mean the same thing




*snort*
 
2012-10-01 11:29:58 PM
Say it with me...

Kill cops because cops kill.
 
2012-10-01 11:31:08 PM

bulldg4life: What, exactly, does one expect to happen when shooting silly string at a cop?


People were throwing water, apparently as part of the festivities. Apparently there is another video of a guy throwing water on this cop, who then proceeded to punch this woman.See, she didn't even do anything other than be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
2012-10-01 11:31:39 PM
In London she would have been clubbed rather than punched.Probably more than once.
 
2012-10-01 11:32:25 PM
Cold cock: Surprise punch
Cleaning someones clock: Punching them in the face and KOing them.

You can cold cock someone and clean their clock, or you could do it with a haymaker.
 
2012-10-01 11:33:18 PM

Weaver95: Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".

nah, pretty easy actually. during the mandatory search at the police station, a quantity of drugs was found in this persons possessions. enough to lock them up for a couple/few years. however, the cops talked to the DA's office - if the victim signs off on the lawsuit AND agrees to a gag order, then no drug charges will be filed. everyone walks away clean!

easy-peasey up and easy.


multimedia.heraldinteractive.com
 
2012-10-01 11:33:21 PM

cman: 35 posts and not one mention of blaming a political side.

We are getting better, guys. Lets keep this up


Cops are usually union controlled, and are solidly Democratic, so there is that. All the cop hate here, and what you are hating on is your boys.
 
2012-10-01 11:34:01 PM
Another "isolated incident" where some woman had the gall to place he face in front of the cop's fist. The cop will get a paid vacation and the woman will get deserved compensation at the tax payer's expense.
 
2012-10-01 11:34:54 PM

Apos: snuff3r: Cops being cops. Why are people surprised by this sort of crap. They are thugs in uniforms.

Know who else were thugs in uniforms?


[sharetv.org image 150x120]


Damn, good response. I'll pay that...
 
2012-10-01 11:35:29 PM
The video seems to be dead now.
 
2012-10-01 11:35:44 PM

ButterMule: Say it with me...

Kill cops because cops kill.


I am a child who's starved for attention.

I do that right?
 
2012-10-01 11:36:39 PM

Thunderpipes: cman: 35 posts and not one mention of blaming a political side.

We are getting better, guys. Lets keep this up

Cops are usually union controlled, and are solidly Democratic, so there is that. All the cop hate here, and what you are hating on is your boys.


That's the stuff.
 
2012-10-01 11:36:40 PM
I have a hard time believing any cop being only 200 pounds, not with all the donuts they eat.

\not to mention the crazy mad munchies they must get from smoking the pot from drug busts.
 
2012-10-01 11:36:43 PM

cman: 35 posts and not one mention of blaming a political side.

We are getting better, guys. Lets keep this up


Oops, ya farked up by even mentioning it.

Yeah, you know what's coming next....

THIS IS ALL BECAUSE OF THE OPPRESSIVE POLICE STATE THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MANUFACTURE IN AMERICA SINCE THE REGAN ADMINISTRATION!!!!

/sorry but when you throw a softball like that, someone's going to take a swing at it
 
2012-10-01 11:39:23 PM

spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.


Of course he should, but we've seen enough of these cases to know that he won't.
 
2012-10-01 11:41:47 PM

CruiserTwelve: Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority.


It's a first, ladies and gentlemen. C12 NOT coming up with a justification for police brutality.

Of course you know as well as I do that will NEVER happen.

Worst case, he gets fired with much public wringing of hands and claims that it was an isolated incident. Then he goes through the union appeals process and after the hubbub has died down he quietly gets re-hired with back pay and everyone pretends it never happened and hopes the media doesn't notice.
 
2012-10-01 11:42:33 PM
i.thestar.com
cdn2-b.examiner.com
 
2012-10-01 11:43:03 PM
fark tha police but fark this stupid biatch even more. What's the rule about "stupid" again? i can't remember but it CERTAINLY applies here. Good for this cop for showing some restraint. 50 years ago, she would have had a cracked skull or worse...oh, wait, 50 years ago, they didn't let the zoo animals out to have a block party that needed the cops to come and save women from being raped and men from being killed(and raped)
 
2012-10-01 11:43:25 PM
As Commissioner Frank Rizzo once said, they don't make batons like they used to.
 
2012-10-01 11:43:29 PM
images.sodahead.com

/ police brutality, the insulting muhammad of america.
 
2012-10-01 11:43:34 PM
This is why I say that there should be cop insurance. Can't get insurance? Can't work as a cop.
 
2012-10-01 11:43:58 PM

willfullyobscure: fark tha police but fark this stupid biatch even more. What's the rule about "stupid" again? i can't remember but it CERTAINLY applies here. Good for this cop for showing some restraint. 50 years ago, she would have had a cracked skull or worse...oh, wait, 50 years ago, they didn't let the zoo animals out to have a block party that needed the cops to come and save women from being raped and men from being killed(and raped)


images.wikia.com
 
2012-10-01 11:44:25 PM
I'm really surpised the situation didn't escalate after this. People obviously witnessed the whole thing.
 
2012-10-01 11:45:30 PM
You know Apple just filed a patent for an iPhone feature that allows the phone's camera to be remotely disabled by some kind of signal.

Officially, the signal would be broadcast only in places vulnerable to espionage, and maybe movie theatres.

In reality, the signal will be used by corrupt law enforcement.

Everyone knows this will be the outcome, but Apple's engineers and managers and marketing people proceeded to implement it anyway. Should get a good raise and bonus out of it, maybe a promotion. Nobody ever accused humanity of overthinking the long term consequences.
 
2012-10-01 11:46:27 PM
"Hardcore, man. farking hardcore."
 
2012-10-01 11:48:23 PM

spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.


Don't kid yourself. He'll get 2 weeks of paid vacation and some additional sensitivity training. She'll still be charged with assault.
 
2012-10-01 11:48:38 PM
Everyone who thinks the cop did something wrong is a racist son of a biatch.

oh wait, wrong fight.
 
2012-10-01 11:49:57 PM
Heroes, every damn one of them.

Law Enforcement Professionals are the reason there are multiple websites devoted completely to the abuse of office/power, manhandling - tazering - shooting - murdering of citizens by Police all across america on a daily basis. Many of these people are unarmed; some are mentally ill, senior citizens, physically challenged (in wheelchairs, on crutches, etcetera).

Adolph Hitler would approve.
 
2012-10-01 11:50:24 PM
She was obviously attacking his fist with the back of her head.
 
2012-10-01 11:50:50 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Oh man, that's brutal
.
 
2012-10-01 11:51:28 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-01 11:51:30 PM

Breathe Laugh Twitch: You know Apple just filed a patent for an iPhone feature that allows the phone's camera to be remotely disabled by some kind of signal.

Officially, the signal would be broadcast only in places vulnerable to espionage, and maybe movie theatres.

In reality, the signal will be used by corrupt law enforcement.

Everyone knows this will be the outcome, but Apple's engineers and managers and marketing people proceeded to implement it anyway. Should get a good raise and bonus out of it, maybe a promotion. Nobody ever accused humanity of overthinking the long term consequences.


Hmm. I can't imagine it will take long for that to be hacked. Just another reason to jailbreak your phone if you insist on a iphone.
 
2012-10-01 11:52:17 PM

Cat F Cat F: I'm really surpised the situation didn't escalate after this. People obviously witnessed the whole thing.


I'm not surprised. This is America: Land of the Cowed.
 
2012-10-01 11:53:30 PM

chaoswolf: Cat F Cat F: I'm really surpised the situation didn't escalate after this. People obviously witnessed the whole thing.

I'm not surprised. This is America: Land of the Cowed.


Cowed, wrapped in bacon, and ever so tasty.
 
2012-10-01 11:53:36 PM
way to be prompt FARK...or....
ferp

/Ric Romero reported on this when this morning was in short-pants
 
2012-10-01 11:53:48 PM
Meh. It's been done...

Link
 
2012-10-01 11:54:12 PM
Dollars to doughnuts this will never hit the national news.
 
2012-10-01 11:54:52 PM
I watched the clip several times and it didn't seem to me that she threw anything..what I saw flying towards the officers seemed to come from some guy in the bottom left of the screen. I really hope that cop gets into some serious trouble for this.

Oh, and before I forget...

BLAME OBAMAA!!!11!!!!
 
2012-10-01 11:54:54 PM

One Bad Apple: whyRpeoplesostupid:


BTW cold clocks

Isn't it cold cocks?

For all intensive purposes they mean the same thing


Don't worry about it. They were just trying to make you an escape goat.
 
2012-10-01 11:55:16 PM

Mugato: He didn't shoot her and he didn't tase her. Not even pepper spray. What do you people want?


How about he act like a human being and not take out his anger on someone because he got a little water on him.
 
2012-10-01 11:56:08 PM
Freakin' Puerto Rican..

//Freakin'Puerto Rican.
 
2012-10-01 11:57:31 PM

illannoyin: Meh. It's been done...

Link


What the fark kind of giant pussy do you have to be to do something like that to a woman?
 
2012-10-01 11:57:31 PM

jeaux65: I watched the clip several times and it didn't seem to me that she threw anything..what I saw flying towards the officers seemed to come from some guy in the bottom left of the screen. I really hope that cop gets into some serious trouble for this.

Oh, and before I forget...

BLAME OBAMAA!!!11!!!!


doesn't seem like she didn't anything at all. Innocent victim in the whole thing
 
2012-10-01 11:57:45 PM

austin_millbarge: Mugato: He didn't shoot her and he didn't tase her. Not even pepper spray. What do you people want?

How about he act like a human being and not take out his anger on someone because he got a little water on him.


Maybe he's a witch.
didja ever even consider that? I bet you didn't.


what a world, what a world.
 
2012-10-01 11:59:39 PM

spqr_ca: probably lose his job


LOL
 
2012-10-02 12:00:38 AM

GGracie: I say the best punishment for the cop would be to receive a sucker punch from Mike Tyson.
Put it on pay per view and give the proceeds to the woman.


I think he deserves a 5-iron to the yambag, but getting sucker punched by a cinder block would work too.
 
2012-10-02 12:01:19 AM

One Bad Apple: whyRpeoplesostupid:


BTW cold clocks

Isn't it cold cocks?

For all intensive purposes they mean the same thing


I prefer my purposes diluted.
 
2012-10-02 12:02:00 AM
I thank The Lord, every day, that we have heroes like this, protecting our lives and freedom.

/That's about 240 BTW.
 
2012-10-02 12:04:05 AM

LaughingRadish: This is why I say that there should be cop insurance. Can't get insurance? Can't work as a cop.


For that to work, you'd need to change the rules on sovereign immunity, eliminate the "good faith" loophole, and prohibit the Nuremberg defense in misconduct cases.

As it stands now, cops have near zero personal criminal or civil liability for anything they do in the line of duty. You can almost never sue an individual cop - the best you can do is sue the entire department.
 
2012-10-02 12:04:29 AM

Sticky Hands: austin_millbarge: Mugato: He didn't shoot her and he didn't tase her. Not even pepper spray. What do you people want?

How about he act like a human being and not take out his anger on someone because he got a little water on him.

Maybe he's a witch.
didja ever even consider that? I bet you didn't.


what a world, what a world.

 

weblogs.asp.net
 
2012-10-02 12:05:41 AM

C18H27NO3: What the fark kind of giant pussy do you have to be to do something like that to a woman?


The kind that hides behind a badge.
 
2012-10-02 12:06:52 AM

de_Selby: The cop in question: [i.imgur.com image 400x273]

A real winner. Entered himself in the Philadelphia Daily Mail's Sexy Singles competition a few years back, saying he was "sick of meeting women that act like girls." He has shot a guy dead breaking up a robbery, and got stabbed in the back in a bar fight, while off duty.

I'd say he has issues.


The guy deserves a cockpunch just for the nipple ring.
 
2012-10-02 12:07:22 AM

Weaver95: easy-peasey up and easy.


sigh.

/really, really wish you were wrong
 
2012-10-02 12:08:06 AM

cig-mkr: Dollars to doughnuts this will never hit the national news.


Google search/multiple links to well known news sources

Google found links to this story from The Huffington Post, CNN, ABC News, NBC, CBS, The Blaze, Latino Fox & youtube.com

At least a few of those are national news sources.
 
2012-10-02 12:08:26 AM

spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.


They keep trying... A few years ago, some city tried to cite a guy because he had security cameras outside his house, and the one in front of his door caught the cops being douche-nozzles. The city tried to claim it was a violation of the right to not be recorded without consent, ignoring the fact that the cameras either shot on the guy's public property, or of an area visible to the public, which are both legal areas to record in. The city eventually lost.

This doesn't mean that the cops don't keep trying, though. I've recently seen footage of them trying to stop someone on the street by merely saying that it was illegal to record police officers.
 
2012-10-02 12:08:48 AM
I love the way our hero opens his hand dramatically after brutally striking, as if he is asking, "why did you make me do that?"

/thank you hero
//heroes
///i feel safer
 
2012-10-02 12:09:14 AM

austin_millbarge: One Bad Apple: whyRpeoplesostupid:


BTW cold clocks

Isn't it cold cocks?

For all intensive purposes they mean the same thing

I prefer my purposes diluted.



www.cms.int

Good luck with that. I'm pretty sure they're not water soluble though
 
2012-10-02 12:09:14 AM
To protect and finally get even for being called dumb in HS.
 
2012-10-02 12:09:24 AM

JustinCase: Weaver95: easy-peasey up and easy.

sigh.

/really, really wish you were wrong


No shiat. Mother farker is right sometimes.

/accuracy by volume TM
 
2012-10-02 12:09:56 AM

bulldg4life: What, exactly, does one expect to happen when shooting silly string at a cop?


Who knows? Problem is, she didn't do it, so your excuse falls flat anyway.
 
2012-10-02 12:11:15 AM

UHC2005: GGracie: I say the best punishment for the cop would be to receive a sucker punch from Mike Tyson.
Put it on pay per view and give the proceeds to the woman.

I think he deserves a 5-iron to the yambag, but getting sucker punched by a cinder block would work too.


I'd nominate an Opie Winston
 
2012-10-02 12:11:26 AM

AbbeySomeone: The most f*cked up thing is he'll still get laid even after this is broadcast.


Yeah - by his boyfriends.
 
2012-10-02 12:11:27 AM

Weaver95: film it and upload to the internet soon as you can.


don't know if there is a matching iPhone app:

http://www.aclu-nj.org/yourrights/the-app-place/
 
2012-10-02 12:12:12 AM

de_Selby: The cop in question: [i.imgur.com image 400x273]

A real winner. Entered himself in the Philadelphia Daily Mail's Sexy Singles competition a few years back, saying he was "sick of meeting women that act like girls." He has shot a guy dead breaking up a robbery, and got stabbed in the back in a bar fight, while off duty.

I'd say he has issues.



I'd... I'd do him. We might have to argue over top and bottom, like I mean wrestle around in an angry way and seize each other with our strong thigh muscles and roll over and over until , but yeah. i could knock out that ashy skin with a little coco oil and some intensity, just sayin'.
 
2012-10-02 12:13:57 AM

404 page not found: willfullyobscure: fark tha police but fark this stupid biatch even more. What's the rule about "stupid" again? i can't remember but it CERTAINLY applies here. Good for this cop for showing some restraint. 50 years ago, she would have had a cracked skull or worse...oh, wait, 50 years ago, they didn't let the zoo animals out to have a block party that needed the cops to come and save women from being raped and men from being killed(and raped)

[images.wikia.com image 593x338]



You're right, that was terrible. But now I know he's a hottie, so we can start all over again, my bad.
 
2012-10-02 12:16:10 AM

Richard Saunders: Although his method of controlling the suspect was a bit farked up, when she turned away from him, she did have what appeared to be a can of Silly String in her left hand and can be seen laying on the ground at her feet after being cold-cocked.

/wrong response
//right asshole


Actually:
1. She did have what appeared to be SOMETHING in her hand. The only people who can look at that video and call it anything specific besides a cylindrical object are those completely unbelieveable jack-nuts on TV shows and movies who take 7-11 footage and "enhance" it to count how many whiskers someone 400 yards from the camera has. The rest of us see a pixellated "something".

2. FTFA: At the same time, a young woman is walking past - who also gets hit by the liquid.
As she turns around to see where it came from
, a police officer in a white shirt - which means he has acquired the rank of sergeant - comes towards the woman and delivers a brutal punch to her face, knocking her to the ground.


3. Even if she WAS carrying a can of silly string, and even if she HAD sprayed it at people, that in no way whatsoever justifies battery by ANYONE. We have laws and a justice system for a reason, and ironically, the police are supposed to be the mature ones that only use forces when it is absolutely necessary.
 
2012-10-02 12:17:36 AM

C18H27NO3: illannoyin: Meh. It's been done...

Link

What the fark kind of giant pussy do you have to be to do something like that to a woman?


A cop.
 
2012-10-02 12:17:55 AM

Bathia_Mapes: cig-mkr: Dollars to doughnuts this will never hit the national news.

Google search/multiple links to well known news sources

Google found links to this story from The Huffington Post, CNN, ABC News, NBC, CBS, The Blaze, Latino Fox & youtube.com

At least a few of those are national news sources.


OK, IOU a doughnut, would you prefer a Krispy Kreme or Dunkin?
Seriously, watched the news today and never seen it.
 
2012-10-02 12:18:12 AM

willfullyobscure: 404 page not found: willfullyobscure: fark tha police but fark this stupid biatch even more. What's the rule about "stupid" again? i can't remember but it CERTAINLY applies here. Good for this cop for showing some restraint. 50 years ago, she would have had a cracked skull or worse...oh, wait, 50 years ago, they didn't let the zoo animals out to have a block party that needed the cops to come and save women from being raped and men from being killed(and raped)

[images.wikia.com image 593x338]


You're right, that was terrible. But now I know he's a hottie, so we can start all over again, my bad.


I lol'd at your previous post. Mainly because the cop is most likely a closeted homosex.
 
2012-10-02 12:18:22 AM

clyph: LaughingRadish: This is why I say that there should be cop insurance. Can't get insurance? Can't work as a cop.

For that to work, you'd need to change the rules on sovereign immunity, eliminate the "good faith" loophole, and prohibit the Nuremberg defense in misconduct cases.

As it stands now, cops have near zero personal criminal or civil liability for anything they do in the line of duty. You can almost never sue an individual cop - the best you can do is sue the entire department.


Sounds like a good thing to work towards. How about we get some ballot proposition petitions going towards that end?
 
2012-10-02 12:21:22 AM
I grew up there and that's pretty much exactly what I'd expect to happen to someone that sprayed silly string in a Philly cop's face.

/moved away long ago
 
2012-10-02 12:21:38 AM

clyph: LaughingRadish: This is why I say that there should be cop insurance. Can't get insurance? Can't work as a cop.

For that to work, you'd need to change the rules on sovereign immunity, eliminate the "good faith" loophole, and prohibit the Nuremberg defense in misconduct cases.

As it stands now, cops have near zero personal criminal or civil liability for anything they do in the line of duty. You can almost never sue an individual cop - the best you can do is sue the entire department.


And there we have the root cause of the issue. If you let someone break the law with impunity, they will
 
2012-10-02 12:21:54 AM

CruiserTwelve: Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority.


Ooooh, yeah, throw the book at him. TWO WEEKS of Paid Administrative Leave.
 
2012-10-02 12:24:57 AM

Breathe Laugh Twitch: You know Apple just filed a patent for an iPhone feature that allows the phone's camera to be remotely disabled by some kind of signal.

Officially, the signal would be broadcast only in places vulnerable to espionage, and maybe movie theatres.

In reality, the signal will be used by corrupt law enforcement.

Everyone knows this will be the outcome, but Apple's engineers and managers and marketing people proceeded to implement it anyway. Should get a good raise and bonus out of it, maybe a promotion. Nobody ever accused humanity of overthinking the long term consequences.


This is why Android.

And you WILL be arrested and imprisoned if you video cops "doing their job", just look at their track record.
 
2012-10-02 12:26:27 AM
What kind of a pussy beats down a woman like that? Sac-less pig.
 
2012-10-02 12:27:33 AM

Cat F Cat F: I'm really surpised the situation didn't escalate after this. People obviously witnessed the whole thing.


I wonder if that had something to do with the 10 other cops standing right there. If this guy would sucker-punch a woman in front of a big crowd AND several other cops, what the hell would he do to someone if no one was looking? 

And I bet none of those other police officers saw a thing.
 
2012-10-02 12:27:51 AM

Breathe Laugh Twitch: You know Apple just filed a patent for an iPhone feature that allows the phone's camera to be remotely disabled by some kind of signal.

Officially, the signal would be broadcast only in places vulnerable to espionage, and maybe movie theatres.

In reality, the signal will be used by corrupt law enforcement.

Everyone knows this will be the outcome, but Apple's engineers and managers and marketing people proceeded to implement it anyway. Should get a good raise and bonus out of it, maybe a promotion. Nobody ever accused humanity of overthinking the long term consequences.


So, if Google put the same feature in, and used it per law enforcements request... Apple could sue them?
 
2012-10-02 12:28:44 AM
In the officer's defense, she did appear to mouthy, plus look at the way she was dressed...she was asking for it.
 
2012-10-02 12:31:18 AM

cig-mkr: Bathia_Mapes: cig-mkr: Dollars to doughnuts this will never hit the national news.

Google search/multiple links to well known news sources

Google found links to this story from The Huffington Post, CNN, ABC News, NBC, CBS, The Blaze, Latino Fox & youtube.com

At least a few of those are national news sources.

OK, IOU a doughnut, would you prefer a Krispy Kreme or Dunkin?
Seriously, watched the news today and never seen it.


Voodoo Doughnut, but you probably don't have one of those in your area, so Dunkin. A cruller, please. :-)

However, I've noticed that when it comes to breaking news CNN is the last source I'd check. They always seem to lag behind MSNBC, Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC and the local news feeds when it comes to breaking news.
 
2012-10-02 12:39:49 AM

Mikey1969: spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.

They keep trying... A few years ago, some city tried to cite a guy because he had security cameras outside his house, and the one in front of his door caught the cops being douche-nozzles. The city tried to claim it was a violation of the right to not be recorded without consent, ignoring the fact that the cameras either shot on the guy's public property, or of an area visible to the public, which are both legal areas to record in. The city eventually lost.

This doesn't mean that the cops don't keep trying, though. I've recently seen footage of them trying to stop someone on the street by merely saying that it was illegal to record police officers.


It is an evolving area but as noted, there is a trend in the courts saying you can record video of police in public and the word is slowly filtering down through the ranks that recording in this situation does not justify confiscating the device or arresting the person recording. Recording of audio is more complicated with some states allowing it when only one party consents, others requiring the consent of both parties (why corporate phone systems sometimes warn you the call may be recorded).
 
2012-10-02 12:40:40 AM

cryinoutloud: what the hell would he do to someone if no one was looking?


That's disturbing. I didn't think of that.
 
2012-10-02 12:41:52 AM
cryinoutloud:And I bet none of those other police officers saw a thing.

But that won't stop them from saying they did I betcha.
 
2012-10-02 12:43:49 AM

Smeggy Smurf: C18H27NO3: illannoyin: Meh. It's been done...

Link

What the fark kind of giant pussy do you have to be to do something like that to a woman?

A cop.


A Philly cop.
 
2012-10-02 12:44:08 AM
That'll teach her to be out of the kitchen. Least she could've done is not forget the sandwich.
 
2012-10-02 12:44:37 AM
CruiserTwelve
Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority.

headexplode.gif
 
2012-10-02 12:47:37 AM
It is obvious when you watch the video that she didn't throw anything at the cops and the cop just turned and out of anger hit the closest civilian to him. But you can tell that she saw the water hit the cops and tried to turn around and get the hell out of there because she knew what was about to happen.

But even more disturbing than the cop hitting her is how the other cops stood around after he knocked her the fark out like nothing even happened.
 
2012-10-02 12:51:08 AM
Looks like the cop was dropping his left. There's no excuse for that at this level.
 
2012-10-02 12:52:32 AM

jaybeezey: In the officer's defense, she did appear to mouthy, plus look at the way she was dressed...she was asking for it.


You are quite right. If this had been a case of legitimate brutality the victims body would shut itself down in such a way to make it imperious to pain or injury.
 
2012-10-02 12:53:38 AM
I play in a beer league that has a couple of cop-centric teams in it; they are, by far, the most violent players in a no-check league that you could imagine. It's no fun to play them.

Every little bump or 50/50 puck seems to result in confrontation.
 
2012-10-02 12:54:41 AM
The thing that bothers me the most about videos like this is that, in a just world, the other cops should have arrested him on the spot. The thin blue line pisses me off. I know for a fact that at least one of those other cops was bothered by this, but knew they couldn't do anything about it.
 
2012-10-02 12:56:38 AM

Thunderpipes: Cops are usually union controlled, and are solidly Democratic, so there is that. All the cop hate here, and what you are hating on is your boys.


That's the funniest and most inaccurate thing I've read on Fark in a long time. Cops are, by far, Republicans.
 
2012-10-02 12:57:34 AM

CruiserTwelve: Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority.


CruiserTwelve: Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority.


CruiserTwelve: Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority.

 
2012-10-02 12:58:35 AM

clyph: It's a first, ladies and gentlemen. C12 NOT coming up with a justification for police brutality.


It's far from a first. But guaranteed next cop thread somebody will say "You ALWAYS defend cops no matter how bad they are."
 
2012-10-02 12:59:40 AM

fragMasterFlash: jaybeezey: In the officer's defense, she did appear to mouthy, plus look at the way she was dressed...she was asking for it.

You are quite right. If this had been a case of legitimate brutality the victims body would shut itself down in such a way to make it imperious to pain or injury.


sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-10-02 12:59:55 AM
Where's the arrest report? Dollars to donuts the seargent wrote up an interesting piece of fiction to justify his use of force.
 
2012-10-02 01:00:50 AM

Stridar: Where's the arrest report? Dollars to donuts the seargent wrote up an interesting piece of fiction to justify his use of force.


He clearly felt that his life was in danger.
 
2012-10-02 01:01:45 AM

spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.


HA HA HA not a chance.

He gets month's paid vacation and an exemplary performance review.
 
2012-10-02 01:05:10 AM

Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".


I'm sure those defenders of public safety, the police union, will find a way. 

I'm putting my money on a 30 day suspension with pay.
 
2012-10-02 01:06:23 AM

CruiserTwelve: Thunderpipes: Cops are usually union controlled, and are solidly Democratic, so there is that. All the cop hate here, and what you are hating on is your boys.

That's the funniest and most inaccurate thing I've read on Fark in a long time. Cops are, by far, Republicans.


Most inaccurate? The first page of a google on police unions political endorsements shows one Republican endorsement, one no endorsement, and the rest Democratic endorsements (plus police regretting they endorsed Scott Walker).

I admit, not a scientific poll. But I would hardly claim that dude was very wrong for posting what he did.
 
2012-10-02 01:08:20 AM

4tehsnowflakes: and the word is slowly filtering down through the ranks that recording in this situation does not justify confiscating the device or arresting the person


Isn't it a shame that this is even a debate? WHen I was a kid, a part of our Social Studies education about America was the fact that our public officials, including the police, were supposed to be held accountable by the public. Something like being able to film or tape police made sense, even in the 70's and 80's before the tech really existed.

Of course, the saddest part is the fact that this cop helps ruin it for the legitimate cops out there, and despite what farkers claim, there are plenty of good cops out there, people who became cops for the RIGHT reasons, shiat like this just makes more and more people become convinced that every single cop is dirty.
 
2012-10-02 01:08:20 AM
She was jumping around behind them, yelling and throwing some kind of liquid on them. Then when they turned around she started to run. Granted she didn't get far but she was making the attempt.

Most people are smart enough to know that is just asking for trouble.

But now the public will cry racism or something like that and cause the police to apologize for doing their jobs.
 
2012-10-02 01:08:35 AM
Death penalty. There is no excuse for that. farking pigger.
 
2012-10-02 01:10:01 AM
He'll just lie and said he smelled gas and thought someone was dousing him with gasoline.
 
2012-10-02 01:12:18 AM
My wife had a pretty similar reaction the last time I decided to blow my "silly string" on her face.
 
2012-10-02 01:13:05 AM

organs in mains: She was jumping around behind them, yelling and throwing some kind of liquid on them. Then when they turned around she started to run. Granted she didn't get far but she was making the attempt.

Most people are smart enough to know that is just asking for trouble.

But now the public will cry racism or something like that and cause the police to apologize for doing their jobs.


No, she didn't. Someone threw liquid, most likely water, and it not only splashed on the woman who was punched, but the cop too.
 
2012-10-02 01:13:13 AM

RanDomino: CruiserTwelve
Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority.

headexplode.gif


Actually, while CruiserTwelve pretty much toes the blue line, I've found him to be fairly reasonable when the evidence isn't in dispute.

He'll give a CLEO a huge amount of latitude, but he doesn't like powermad pricks any more than the rest of us.
 
2012-10-02 01:15:09 AM

Mikey1969: Of course, the saddest part is the fact that this cop helps ruin it for the legitimate cops out there, and despite what farkers claim, there are plenty of good cops out there, people who became cops for the RIGHT reasons, shiat like this just makes more and more people become convinced that every single cop is dirty.


That's the assumption I make. Better safe than sorry....
 
2012-10-02 01:15:13 AM

The Dangerous Toy: He'll give a CLEO a huge amount of latitude, but he doesn't like powermad pricks any more than the rest of us.


But doesn't he give them more latitude precisely because he does like them more than the rest of us do? Your statement is contradictory on its face.
 
2012-10-02 01:17:21 AM
more like 230 or so

don't assault philly cops... how many times does this happen per year? Its like they're competing for Brutal Cop of the Month up there.
 
2012-10-02 01:18:05 AM

organs in mains: She was jumping around behind them, yelling and throwing some kind of liquid on them. Then when they turned around she started to run. Granted she didn't get far but she was making the attempt.

Most people are smart enough to know that is just asking for trouble.

But now the public will cry racism or something like that and cause the police to apologize for doing their jobs.


Um she didn't throw anything at them. If you watch the video and stop trying to be an idiot troll you will see that what ever landed on the cops came from somebody behind her, not her. The cop turned around out of anger and went after the closest person to him. Now I firmly believe that she saw what ever hit the cops hit them and tried to leave the area, but that doesn't justify getting clocked from behind. Neither does yelling and jumping around behind them.
 
2012-10-02 01:18:57 AM
Cop is in the wrong for the sucker punch. HOWEVER,

FTFA: Many point out that the young women simply threw some water from her bottle or sprayed silly string, others point to the fact that it was actually someone else out of shot who threw the substance that hit the officers.

There is no 'simply threw some water or sprayed silly string'.

There is no simply, when it comes to throwing shiat at someone else.

You don't throw shiat at someone else. That is assault.
It doesn't matter what is in the bottle.
You don't throw shiat at someone else.
You especially don't throw shiat at a fking cop.

I say call it even, then call it a day. They're both assholes.
 
2012-10-02 01:24:42 AM

untaken_name: The Dangerous Toy: He'll give a CLEO a huge amount of latitude, but he doesn't like powermad pricks any more than the rest of us.

But doesn't he give them more latitude precisely because he does like them more than the rest of us do? Your statement is contradictory on its face.


Nope. He gives cops in general more latitude because it seems, in purely my observation, that he believes that Farkers hold CLEO's to unfairly high standards that would require information that the CLEO couldn't have had at the time.

I often disagree with his opinions and feel that he is far too forgiving of unacceptable behavior. But he's not one of the sheeple badge lickers on here.

fark knows we're not hurting for those.
 
2012-10-02 01:27:16 AM

Forbidden Doughnut: Mikey1969: Of course, the saddest part is the fact that this cop helps ruin it for the legitimate cops out there, and despite what farkers claim, there are plenty of good cops out there, people who became cops for the RIGHT reasons, shiat like this just makes more and more people become convinced that every single cop is dirty.

That's the assumption I make. Better safe than sorry....


I have two close friends -- guys I've known for 10+ years -- who have become cops since I met them. I'd still lay down in traffic for either one of them, but I'd be lying if I said I was 100 percent confident that they've never stepped just a tiny bit outside of their authority. We used to talk about law and cop stuff all the time, but those discussions get pretty tense these days.

That said, neither of them would ever just step up and throw a right hook at a woman. What is WRONG with this guy?
 
2012-10-02 01:30:04 AM

skullkrusher: ButterMule: Say it with me...

Kill cops because cops kill.

I am a child who's starved for attention.

I do that right?


Not quite, but good try.
 
2012-10-02 01:33:19 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Cop is in the wrong for the sucker punch. HOWEVER,

FTFA: Many point out that the young women simply threw some water from her bottle or sprayed silly string, others point to the fact that it was actually someone else out of shot who threw the substance that hit the officers.

There is no 'simply threw some water or sprayed silly string'.

There is no simply, when it comes to throwing shiat at someone else.

You don't throw shiat at someone else. That is assault.
It doesn't matter what is in the bottle.
You don't throw shiat at someone else.
You especially don't throw shiat at a fking cop.

I say call it even, then call it a day. They're both assholes.


I hope your mom gets punched the same way by a large black man (and not your dad this time).
 
2012-10-02 01:37:10 AM

cretinbob: Gecko Gingrich: Judging by the uniform, I'd say "Captain" is more apt.

Yeah. This isn't an average patrolman. If it were a reaction punch I could see where maybe she shouldn't have done that, but that farker went after her.


*ahem* let me try this again.

Gotta watch out for the Whiteshirts.

www.policebrutality.info

www.bagnewsnotes.com
 
2012-10-02 01:37:41 AM

NFA: spqr_ca: You do know that there's no legal expectation of privacy when in public right?

That's only partly true. In some parts of the country the police have the right to privacy in public places. In some places it's against the law to video record police doing their jobs. Maryland was one of those places until a court overturned it. Maryland would charge people videoing police with wiretapping. Which is a ten year prison sentence.


There's a reason courts keep overturning those public "wiretapping" laws is because those laws themselves are illegal. Thats because THERE IS NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY IN PUBLIC!


Logic, how does it farking work
 
2012-10-02 01:40:51 AM

The Dangerous Toy: untaken_name: The Dangerous Toy: He'll give a CLEO a huge amount of latitude, but he doesn't like powermad pricks any more than the rest of us.

But doesn't he give them more latitude precisely because he does like them more than the rest of us do? Your statement is contradictory on its face.

Nope. He gives cops in general more latitude because it seems, in purely my observation, that he believes that Farkers hold CLEO's to unfairly high standards that would require information that the CLEO couldn't have had at the time.

I often disagree with his opinions and feel that he is far too forgiving of unacceptable behavior. But he's not one of the sheeple badge lickers on here.

fark knows we're not hurting for those.


I think I was more taking issue with your assertion that he doesn't like powermad pricks more than "the rest of us", which I took to mean Farkers. Because I still believe you're wrong about that. Even if he held only minimal respect for LEOs, that would still be liking them much more than the average Farker does.
 
2012-10-02 01:43:45 AM

clyph: Worst case, he gets fired with much public wringing of hands and claims that it was an isolated incident. Then he goes through the union appeals process and after the hubbub has died down he quietly gets re-hired with back pay and everyone pretends it never happened and hopes the media doesn't notice.


At least he's already a white shirt, so he probably won't get a promotion out of this.
 
2012-10-02 01:52:10 AM

LaughingRadish: clyph: For that to work, you'd need to change the rules on sovereign immunity, eliminate the "good faith" loophole, and prohibit the Nuremberg defense in misconduct cases.

...

Sounds like a good thing to work towards. How about we get some ballot proposition petitions going towards that end?


You do know the petitions have your name and address on them? I doubt you'll find anyone willing to accept the inevitable consequences for signing.
 
2012-10-02 01:55:14 AM

SN1987a goes boom: The video seems to be dead now.


It immediately went into ad mode when I clicked it... Automatically causing me to click the red X in the upper right corner of the page...

When I click on a video, I want to watch the video, not some ad for someplace in Philly that I'll never go...
 
2012-10-02 02:00:53 AM
Cop 1, woman 0!

/Better luck next time.
 
2012-10-02 02:12:26 AM

CruiserTwelve: Thunderpipes: Cops are usually union controlled, and are solidly Democratic, so there is that. All the cop hate here, and what you are hating on is your boys.

That's the funniest and most inaccurate I've read on Fark in a long time. Cops are, by far, Republicans.


At one time, they might have been.

They are now the Sheriff of Nottingham's men. They rob, pillage and kill under Color of Law, and are the Thin Blue Line between the peasants and the Federal Nobility. They make noises about an Oath they took, but damned few are vets. Why do you think they like to copy actual combat troops? Skin heads, Bloused boots, SWAT teams with automatic weapons, and they don't even have to worry about IEDs! It's why the get a stiffy thinking about shooting some little old lady. They get to play cowboys and Arabs, with no UCMJ to interfere with their fun.

The local Powers That Be don't want people smart enough to question whatever laws they are told to enforce. Local civic leaders prefer recruiting the coward/bullies from high school who liked setting fire to small animals. The Local Mayors then complain about civilians having guns, and the Left Side of the IQ Bell Curve nod their heads... Dem/Repub has nothing to do with it.

 
2012-10-02 02:15:24 AM

untaken_name:

I think I was more taking issue with your assertion that he doesn't like powermad pricks more than "the rest of us", which I took to mean Farkers. Because I still believe you're wrong about that. Even if he held only minimal respect for LEOs, that would still be liking them much more than the average Farker does.



You're right, of course. I meant Farkers. Obviously, we disagree. but since CruiserTwelve chimed in fairly early with:

"Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority."

I justbfelt that he should be cut a little slack, that's all. I don't pretend to know him, or to speak for him - but why make a villain of him when he's agreeing that this was universally wrong and made no argument to the contrary?
 
2012-10-02 02:16:46 AM
In before anyone suggests hearing the officer's side of the story.

/I think the woman's movements just before she turned to leave suggest she may have done something to provoke the response
 
2012-10-02 02:21:14 AM

reubendaley: In before anyone suggests hearing the officer's side of the story.

/I think the woman's movements just before she turned to leave suggest she may have done something to provoke the response


True, that is important. But maybe you should learn something about the VERY PUBLIC history of the agent. I linked above to a piece on him.

I live in Philly, and I recognized his name ... that's not a good thing for a cop.
 
2012-10-02 02:31:57 AM

spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.


Lose his job? He should be charged.
 
2012-10-02 02:37:05 AM

GAT_00: vartian: what kind of dickbag do you have to be where your first reaction is to strike someone in the face?

A cop.


Its odd you hate cops yet love the drug war.
 
2012-10-02 02:40:52 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Douchebag should be in jail on assault charges


As should she be
 
2012-10-02 02:43:01 AM

The Dangerous Toy: I justbfelt that he should be cut a little slack, that's all. I don't pretend to know him, or to speak for him - but why make a villain of him when he's agreeing that this was universally wrong and made no argument to the contrary?


I wasn't attempting to make a villain out of him at all, and I think we're working crosswise here. I am obsessed with accuracy to a point which many find annoying. My objection wasn't to C12 at all in this case, but solely with your premise that he does not like police officers more than the rest of us do, which I believe to be a false premise. I am not attempting to make a value judgement on C12 for his esteem of LEOs, merely to point out that the average Farker's esteem for police officers is very low, likely much lower than C12's esteem for them.
 
2012-10-02 02:53:39 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Cop is in the wrong for the sucker punch. HOWEVER,

FTFA: Many point out that the young women simply threw some water from her bottle or sprayed silly string, others point to the fact that it was actually someone else out of shot who threw the substance that hit the officers.

There is no 'simply threw some water or sprayed silly string'.

There is no simply, when it comes to throwing shiat at someone else.

You don't throw shiat at someone else. That is assault.
It doesn't matter what is in the bottle.
You don't throw shiat at someone else.
You especially don't throw shiat at a fking cop.

I say call it even, then call it a day. They're both assholes.


I wouldnt call it even, but yeah.. Don't throw shiat at people.

Also, don't go after cops. They are trained to raise the level of force so that it escalates on their terms, with them as the winner (which I agree with). That doesn't mean they should be striking someone over this, but by now people should have a firm grasp on how 'ask, tell, make' works and what happens when you are active resistant or assaultive with police.
 
2012-10-02 03:04:08 AM
I'm glad the video was put out on the internet. It really aligns well with what I've come to expect from people and police.

See, the thing about police brutality nobody (except cops) wanna talk about is that, in nearly every case, the person deserved *something*. Maybe not a punch in the face - but seriously - what the hell is wrong with this woman. You've got a bunch of guys in their clean and pressed uniforms and you're going to walk up and spray them in the face with silly string? That's a giant dick move.

I remember everyone talking about Rodney King back in the day. Nobody ever mentioned how the other black guy in the car got out and didn't lead the cops on a high speed chase and how he didn't get beat. But no, everyone talked about the race thing and how cops in LA hated black people.

Did the girl deserve to get punched in the face? Eh. Probably. To be perfectly honest. If it were two guys at a bar - a lot more of you would be like 'Haha! Serves him right!'. Some douchbag sprays silly string in your face; you punch him. That's life. People would call him a hero. Make it a girl...well....even with the best of intentions this country is still sexist as hell. Women's rights only extends in the direction we all think it should. Not in the 'true equality' sense. Women are still considered more weak and more frail.

Then make the other guy a cop? And now everyone wants to hate them.

I know, I know, people are going to call me a troll, which is fine. I also realize that this is a POTENTIALLY slippery slope. But at the end of the day, I'm really okay with living in a world where if you act like a complete douchbag you might get punched in the face.

Sadly, what will probably happen is that she'll get a few hundred k worth of tax payer money. Now, instead of being a deterrent, more people are going to actively seek this crap out. I'd LOVE to get a huge payday for going around and being a dick until someone punches me.
 
2012-10-02 03:04:09 AM

slayer199: Here's the thing with the use of force.

She wasn't resisting, she wasn't fighting, she wasn't doing a damn thing but turning her back on the officer. The punch was totally unnecessary and the guy should be fired.


Charged and jailed you mean.
 
2012-10-02 03:09:37 AM
What is the solution to the cop problem?
 
2012-10-02 03:11:24 AM

Amos Quito: PIG TRIFECTA IN PLAY!


/This should be a fun thread


It all makes sense now. A cop apologist. Blind uneducated libertarian. Conspiracy theory wacko. You are the perfect definition for Rush Limbaugh's audience.
 
2012-10-02 03:23:47 AM

Smackledorfer: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Cop is in the wrong for the sucker punch. HOWEVER,

FTFA: Many point out that the young women simply threw some water from her bottle or sprayed silly string, others point to the fact that it was actually someone else out of shot who threw the substance that hit the officers.

There is no 'simply threw some water or sprayed silly string'.

There is no simply, when it comes to throwing shiat at someone else.

You don't throw shiat at someone else. That is assault.
It doesn't matter what is in the bottle.
You don't throw shiat at someone else.
You especially don't throw shiat at a fking cop.

I say call it even, then call it a day. They're both assholes.

I wouldnt call it even, but yeah.. Don't throw shiat at people.

Also, don't go after cops. They are trained to raise the level of force so that it escalates on their terms, with them as the winner (which I agree with). That doesn't mean they should be striking someone over this, but by now people should have a firm grasp on how 'ask, tell, make' works and what happens when you are active resistant or assaultive with police.


Look, it's not like this guy is an unknown quantity. He has continually managed to make the news here in Philly, and always in an unflattering manner. At least this time he did not kill someone, or get knifed while off duty in a bar.
 
2012-10-02 03:25:28 AM
Update:
"That officer, Lt. Jonathan Josey, 39, is assigned to Highway Patrol and is a 19 year veteran of the force.
A source who has seen Josey's file tells Action News he has roughly 20 internal affairs complaints, some for allegedly being physically and verbally abusive. "
- http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c7d_1349153174 
 
2012-10-02 03:33:05 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I'm glad the video was put out on the internet. It really aligns well with what I've come to expect from people and police.

See, the thing about police brutality nobody (except cops) wanna talk about is that, in nearly every case, the person deserved *something*. Maybe not a punch in the face - but seriously - what the hell is wrong with this woman. You've got a bunch of guys in their clean and pressed uniforms and you're going to walk up and spray them in the face with silly string? That's a giant dick move.

I remember everyone talking about Rodney King back in the day. Nobody ever mentioned how the other black guy in the car got out and didn't lead the cops on a high speed chase and how he didn't get beat. But no, everyone talked about the race thing and how cops in LA hated black people.

Did the girl deserve to get punched in the face? Eh. Probably. To be perfectly honest. If it were two guys at a bar - a lot more of you would be like 'Haha! Serves him right!'. Some douchbag sprays silly string in your face; you punch him. That's life. People would call him a hero. Make it a girl...well....even with the best of intentions this country is still sexist as hell. Women's rights only extends in the direction we all think it should. Not in the 'true equality' sense. Women are still considered more weak and more frail.

Then make the other guy a cop? And now everyone wants to hate them.

I know, I know, people are going to call me a troll, which is fine. I also realize that this is a POTENTIALLY slippery slope. But at the end of the day, I'm really okay with living in a world where if you act like a complete douchbag you might get punched in the face.

Sadly, what will probably happen is that she'll get a few hundred k worth of tax payer money. Now, instead of being a deterrent, more people are going to actively seek this crap out. I'd LOVE to get a huge payday for going around and being a dick until someone punches me.


as a member of law enforcement, you're supposed to act with more integrity and restraint than "a guy at a bar".

she shouldnt get a huge payout, but this dick lost his cool when he shouldnt and beat a woman for no good reason. he should be punished. if this isnt assault and battery i dont know what is.
 
2012-10-02 03:33:35 AM

ongbok: It is obvious when you watch the video that she didn't throw anything at the cops and the cop just turned and out of anger hit the closest civilian to him. But you can tell that she saw the water hit the cops and tried to turn around and get the hell out of there because she knew what was about to happen.

But even more disturbing than the cop hitting her is how the other cops stood around after he knocked her the fark out like nothing even happened.


THIS!

ALL of those cops who stood by and did absolutely nothing when a woman was brutally assaulted need to suffer something ... at the least they need to go back to the Academy and learn what their actual duties are. One can clearly see that there are different rules for police and citizens - if she had clubbed that cop from behind, you can bet your arse they would have beat her too the ground. But another cop does it meh "I didn't see anything". This relates to that whole "just following orders" thing - yes he is higher ranked but you are a sworn officer, it is not only your job but your duty to take the bastard down hard (he makes the rest of you look like wimpy dogs, just like he obviously is.)
 
2012-10-02 03:34:16 AM
Actual vid of the incident Liveleak, no advertising.

Some dude sprays a little water, and the cop sucker punches the first woman he sees. I wonder how many women have had their cheekbones or noses broken by this guy over the years? I'd be willing to bet dozens. Cops are the number one domestic violence offenders in the country. They're allowed to get away with it, because they're "heroes". The entirety of Police Culture protects these people.

This guy beat his wife, brutally for years. She'd been hospitalized several times with broken bones, and when she tried to report it, other officers would pay her a visit, and made it quite clear to her that any attempt by her to pursue charges would result in her disappearance or charges filed against her. The day before this incident, the cops tried to force her into an unmarked car at gunpoint because she'd testified about her abuse in a deposition only a few hours earlier.

This cop was still being called a hero at his funeral, and several thousand Police officers attended, while his wife was being excoriated in the press. Because of this incident, a law was passed that required the mandatory suspension and loss of all weapons for any law enforcement official accused of domestic violence. The law also required the loss of the Law Enforcement license for any Officer convicted of domestic violence. The Police Union fought this law tooth and nail and are still trying to get it changed back. They actually believe that is is their absolute right to brutalize their wives and children. They have said so, in so many words.
 
2012-10-02 03:41:29 AM

cig-mkr: Dollars to doughnuts this will never hit the national news.


You already lost because I saw the video on CNN first.

That poor cop is prolly nursing some bruised knuckles on his right fist. Itll be weeks before his fist is working properly.
 
2012-10-02 03:45:53 AM
See, the deal is that his magnetic personality is so strong that her face was powerfully attracted to his fist. 

But seriously, I love that there are people actually defending this guy here because 1) the police account has to be true because they would never be wrong or lie about anything to cover their asses, right? and 2) that obviously being the case, suckerpunching a woman is totally appropriate behavior for a cop when confronted with potentially lethal silly string or viciously sprayed water. You guys totally rock.
 
2012-10-02 03:46:15 AM

daxxenos: CruiserTwelve: Thunderpipes: Cops are usually union controlled, and are solidly Democratic, so there is that. All the cop hate here, and what you are hating on is your boys.

That's the funniest and most inaccurate I've read on Fark in a long time. Cops are, by far, Republicans.

At one time, they might have been. They are now the Sheriff of Nottingham's men. They rob, pillage and kill under Color of Law, and are the Thin Blue Line between the peasants and the Federal Nobility. They make noises about an Oath they took, but damned few are vets. Why do you think they like to copy actual combat troops? Skin heads, Bloused boots, SWAT teams with automatic weapons, and they don't even have to worry about IEDs! It's why the get a stiffy thinking about shooting some little old lady. They get to play cowboys and Arabs, with no UCMJ to interfere with their fun.The local Powers That Be don't want people smart enough to question whatever laws they are told to enforce. Local civic leaders prefer recruiting the coward/bullies from high school who liked setting fire to small animals. The Local Mayors then complain about civilians having guns, and the Left Side of the IQ Bell Curve nod their heads... Dem/Repub has nothing to do with it.


+1
 
2012-10-02 03:55:35 AM

sanktp: Update:
"That officer, Lt. Jonathan Josey, 39, is assigned to Highway Patrol and is a 19 year veteran of the force.
A source who has seen Josey's file tells Action News he has roughly 20 internal affairs complaints, some for allegedly being physically and verbally abusive. "
- http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c7d_1349153174


i came here to say this. what a piece of utter shiat.
 
2012-10-02 04:01:58 AM

The Dangerous Toy: RanDomino: CruiserTwelve
Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority.

headexplode.gif

Actually, while CruiserTwelve pretty much toes the blue line, I've found him to be fairly reasonable when the evidence isn't in dispute.

He'll give a CLEO a huge amount of latitude, but he doesn't like powermad pricks any more than the rest of us.


Yeah, it's a fun bot.
 
2012-10-02 04:02:35 AM
Not going to lie... I kinda hoped he would have gotten shanked for that. Not killed, mind you. Just stabbed a few times right in the asshole part of his brain.
 
2012-10-02 04:06:30 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I'd LOVE to get a huge payday for going around and being a dick until someone punches me.


Pussy.
 
2012-10-02 04:08:12 AM

Quasar: Not going to lie... I kinda hoped he would have gotten shanked for that. Not killed, mind you. Just stabbed a few times right in the asshole part of his brain.


Your remonding me of that Sons of Anarchy scene and of course Jack Nicholson.

/mmmmmm nurse cratchet
 
2012-10-02 04:10:40 AM

Calmamity: This kind of shiat is going to happen more and more often and people are starting to fight back.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.


Nobody is ever going to fight back. Ever. If that were a five-year-old girl and that cop killed her, there would be - at best - a nasty letter to the editor written by us. We are pitiful and, because of it, allowed these adrenaline junkies to get where they are.
 
2012-10-02 04:28:56 AM

lecavalier: Calmamity: This kind of shiat is going to happen more and more often and people are starting to fight back.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Nobody is ever going to fight back. Ever. If that were a five-year-old girl and that cop killed her, there would be - at best - a nasty letter to the editor written by us. We are pitiful and, because of it, allowed these adrenaline junkies to get where they are.


Sadly, you are probably right. Things will have to get a lot worse before it might get better.
 
2012-10-02 04:33:51 AM

Boojum2k: lecavalier: Calmamity: This kind of shiat is going to happen more and more often and people are starting to fight back.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Nobody is ever going to fight back. Ever. If that were a five-year-old girl and that cop killed her, there would be - at best - a nasty letter to the editor written by us. We are pitiful and, because of it, allowed these adrenaline junkies to get where they are.

Sadly, you are probably right. Things will have to get a lot worse before it might get better.


"And history hides the lies of our civil wars"

Duck you chickenhawk!
 
2012-10-02 04:34:34 AM
And
I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
 
2012-10-02 04:35:53 AM
Just being honest.

I really don't know why his hands were around her face but it doesn't look like she was punched. It looks like he tried to grab her and she just went limp and fell. It doesn't look right to me. However... This does look like the same cop who threw me across the street a few weekends ago.
 
2012-10-02 04:41:08 AM

OMG! We're All Gonna Die!: Just being honest.

I really don't know why his hands were around her face but it doesn't look like she was punched. It looks like he tried to grab her and she just went limp and fell. It doesn't look right to me. However... This does look like the same cop who threw me across the street a few weekends ago.


So, you're saying his pimp-hand was strong.

/ain't no love like a pimp's love
 
2012-10-02 06:10:18 AM

Langdon_777: Charged and jailed you mean.


You don't get jailed for a simple assault these days. Fine, court costs, etc.

Though he should get cock-punched for hitting a girl that wasn't threatening him.
 
GBB
2012-10-02 06:21:46 AM
Good on him. If this incident went unchecked, do you know how many silly-string copycats would pop up in this country??

Think of it this way: If this is how cops react to being sprayed with silly string, how do you think they would react to something stronger?
 
2012-10-02 06:22:39 AM
Just listening on the local philly conservative talk radio station to the morning guy defend the officer without even having seen the video. Guy is suggesting that somehow the woman must have done *something* to deserve it. He also is douchily saying that it's suspicious that the camera "just happened" to be pointing right at the incident because, "nobody ever just points a camera at a crowd unless they know something is about to happen." Says he won't watch the video because he hates it when they say "shocking video."
 
2012-10-02 06:38:52 AM

spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.


No... he should be sitting in a jail cell.

Waiting to be executed.
 
2012-10-02 06:50:50 AM
I think at least he's going to lose his status as a Daily News SEXY SINGLE
 
2012-10-02 07:02:38 AM
God bless our heroic boys in blue.
 
2012-10-02 07:05:04 AM

C18H27NO3: illannoyin: Meh. It's been done...

Link

What the fark kind of giant pussy do you have to be to do something like that to a woman?


Ask a war veteran.
 
2012-10-02 07:11:05 AM
imgs.inkfrog.com
www.dunkirkma.net
 
2012-10-02 07:21:19 AM
What always gets me is all the other tax-feeders, bravely standing by while their co-feeders beats a woman. Yes, so brave, fellas.
 
2012-10-02 07:24:39 AM
Police are terrible people and should never be trusted.
 
2012-10-02 07:35:02 AM

Richard Saunders: Although his method of controlling the suspect was a bit farked up, when she turned away from him, she did have what appeared to be a can of Silly String in her left hand and can be seen laying on the ground at her feet after being cold-cocked.

/wrong response
//right asshole


Control.
 
2012-10-02 07:40:51 AM

DrPainMD: spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.

No... he should be sitting in a jail cell.

Waiting to be executed.


Oh you mad.
 
2012-10-02 07:44:52 AM
Yea he's at the very least getting fired, most likely going to be sued and possibly jail time.
 
2012-10-02 07:45:00 AM

Mikey1969: 4tehsnowflakes: and the word is slowly filtering down through the ranks that recording in this situation does not justify confiscating the device or arresting the person

Isn't it a shame that this is even a debate? WHen I was a kid, a part of our Social Studies education about America was the fact that our public officials, including the police, were supposed to be held accountable by the public. Something like being able to film or tape police made sense, even in the 70's and 80's before the tech really existed.

Of course, the saddest part is the fact that this cop helps ruin it for the legitimate cops out there, and despite what farkers claim, there are plenty of good cops out there, people who became cops for the RIGHT reasons, shiat like this just makes more and more people become convinced that every single cop is dirty.


What mystifies me most is how we protect people who do that, but if someone tries to have a little integrity and expose exactly the kind of people and behaviour that would squeeze whatever trust for us the public has left, it's that guy who ends up with radio trouble as soon as he needs help with not getting shot. Without your integrity you're nothing.... or at least, only as good as the people who try your cases and oversee your department. If they're crooked then I guess you can do whatever you want.
 
2012-10-02 07:49:38 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Yea he's at the very least getting fired, most likely going to be sued and possibly jail time.


One of those things might happen. Might.
 
2012-10-02 08:07:02 AM
I am not sure why people are getting upset over this. We have all seen the Youtube videos and know what can happen when silly string hits an open flame. That woman was spraying highly flammable compounds over the crowd and at police officers. This officer risked recieving massive burns to prevent what may have been an act of domestic terrorism.

The man is a hero. He should be promoted and publically honored as such.
 
2012-10-02 08:09:43 AM
snuff3r

Cops being cops. Why are people surprised by this sort of crap. They are thugs in uniforms.

Know who else were thugs in uniforms?

^ This.

This isn't anything new. For generations they've got away with it by just claiming "badguys" resist. Now that cameras are just about everywhere, we find that the real criminals are the blue shirts. The only good one.......
 
2012-10-02 08:14:09 AM

HotWingConspiracy: One of those things might happen. Might.


I've seen cops go to jail with less evidence than that, so I think this guy will be made an example of.
 
2012-10-02 08:15:31 AM
A) Dickhead cop should go to jail

B) Now that it is possible, cops should be required to wear small audio/video recording cameras at all times while on duty. It has become clear in the age of cell phone cameras that cops do this shiat ALOT and lie about it ALL THE TIME.
 
2012-10-02 08:16:19 AM
Personally I don't think that there is enough video shown to allow me to say if it was justified or not.
 
2012-10-02 08:17:30 AM
Well, I, for one, am shocked that the filthy pigs in Phillidelphia suspended him.
Don't they usually give out medals for this sort of bravery in the face of terrorism?

Filty pigs.
/Ex-cop, too.
 
2012-10-02 08:38:56 AM

Mikey1969:
Of course, the saddest part is the fact that this cop helps ruin it for the legitimate cops out there, and despite what farkers claim, there are plenty of good cops out there, people who became cops for the RIGHT reasons, shiat like this just makes more and more people become convinced that every single cop is dirty.


Huh. Plenty of cops around when he sucker-punched that woman. I counted ten in the image and at least four were looking directly at both the puncher and the victim. Not a single one of them did a goddamn thing about it. Are they good cops?
 
2012-10-02 08:41:25 AM
I have no sympathy when I hear that a cop died.

/awful humans beings
 
2012-10-02 08:43:35 AM

OnlyM3: snuff3r

Cops being cops. Why are people surprised by this sort of crap. They are thugs in uniforms.

Know who else were thugs in uniforms?
^ This.

This isn't anything new. For generations they've got away with it by just claiming "badguys" resist. Now that cameras are just about everywhere, we find that the real criminals are the blue shirts. The only good one.......


Maybe we'll see some change in police culture when someone rich & politically connected gets accidently beaten up ( or killed ) by one of them, but I'm not holding my breath...

/ as I said earlier, the best policy is to stay far away
// ....and don't do anything that will focus their attention on you ( eg. drive competently & legally)
 
2012-10-02 08:44:16 AM
I'm not a cop, but I can say this: If some dumbass shoots silly string in my face, there's a good chance I'm going to punch them. Whether or not I win the ensuing fight remains to be seen, but my first reaction would probably be of a physical nature.

With that said, cops are professionals (or supposed to be) and as such, should be taught restraint. Those with violent tendencies (like me) should be weeded out in the interview process.
 
2012-10-02 08:56:38 AM

untaken_name:
I wasn't attempting to make a villain out of him at all, and I think we're working crosswise here. I am obsessed with accuracy to a point which many find annoying. My objection wasn't to C12 at all in this case, but solely with your premise that he does not like police officers more than the rest of us do, which I believe to be a false premise. I am not attempting to make a value judgement on C12 for his esteem of LEOs, merely to point out that the average Farker's esteem for police officers is very low, likely much lower than C12's esteem for them.


Perhaps I see our issue. I commented that C12 doesn't seem to like "power mad pricks" any more than most Farkers, and it appears that you are equating all police officers with power mad pricks. I don't personally see them all that way either. On the other hand, I think that he holds CLEOs in general in vastly higher regard than the average Farker.

Fark is a place of firmly embedded opinions and you rarely see any give and take. I was just acknowledging that C12 deserved a little credit for being very reasonable on this one.
 
2012-10-02 09:03:00 AM

HectorSchwartz: I'm not a cop, but I can say this: If some dumbass shoots silly string in my face, there's a good chance I'm going to punch them.


Luckily you're not a cop, then. Your total inability to control yourself means that you're not even remotely qualified.
 
2012-10-02 09:15:27 AM

snuff3r: Cops being cops. Why are people surprised by this sort of crap. They are thugs in uniforms.

Know who else were thugs in uniforms?


Girl Guides? I never trust them with their overly aggressive cookie drives.
 
2012-10-02 09:17:08 AM
Union president John McNesby has obviously taken care of the situation by eating both the cop and the woman for breakfast today:

c.o0bc.com
 
2012-10-02 09:24:42 AM
The appropriate response to water in the face.

smilepanic.com
 
2012-10-02 09:38:59 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: HectorSchwartz: I'm not a cop, but I can say this: If some dumbass shoots silly string in my face, there's a good chance I'm going to punch them.

Luckily you're not a cop, then. Your total inability to control yourself means that you're not even remotely qualified.


Look, you Fark with the bull, you get the horns [internettoughguy.jpg].

If you don't want to get punched in the face, don't Fark with strangers, Cops included. We are turning into a nation of COMPLETE PUSSIES that refuse to take responsibility for our actions. The biatch deserved to get hit, plain and simple. Why arrest her and put her through the long, arduous and costly court system when you can teach her a very valuable lesson in a split second? *WHACK* done.

Again, if you don't want to get punched in the face, don't provoke people. It's simple, really.
 
2012-10-02 09:43:21 AM

the_chief: What is the solution to the cop problem?


More training (money).
More oversight (sadly, also costs money).
Better employees from the get go (I challenge those who believe all cops are unethical and power hungry to go be cops and people take it like an insult. We will sit around and say the job is paid plenty, maybe too much, but we won't sink to doing it ourselves, nor will we pay enough to attract people who are intelligent and driven for success but wouldn't want the position)

A better gang strategy than wait til they're 18 and then move them from a street gang to a prison gang so the job requires less of a focus purely on dealing with the violent. (i advocate physical isolation of prisoners for all violent felons - the influence of prison gangs on street gangs dramatically increases their violence). Also end prohibition and improve the education of the populace.
 
2012-10-02 09:43:56 AM

spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.


As a guy with brothers/uncles/cousins who are cops I give them the benefit of the doubt. After doing so I conclude this is assault, and the guy should be fired and receive jail time. She was walking away, farking coward.
 
2012-10-02 09:44:34 AM

TruBluTroll: The appropriate response to water in the face.


Heh. Toronto Pride day parade. The cops are always easygoing for that. Maybe the secondhand weed smoke mellows them out.
 
2012-10-02 09:47:01 AM

HectorSchwartz: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: HectorSchwartz: I'm not a cop, but I can say this: If some dumbass shoots silly string in my face, there's a good chance I'm going to punch them.

Luckily you're not a cop, then. Your total inability to control yourself means that you're not even remotely qualified.

Look, you Fark with the bull, you get the horns [internettoughguy.jpg].

If you don't want to get punched in the face, don't Fark with strangers, Cops included. We are turning into a nation of COMPLETE PUSSIES that refuse to take responsibility for our actions. The biatch deserved to get hit, plain and simple. Why arrest her and put her through the long, arduous and costly court system when you can teach her a very valuable lesson in a split second? *WHACK* done.

Again, if you don't want to get punched in the face, don't provoke people. It's simple, really.


Well, that totally justifies the complete over-reaction of the criminal with a badge, doesn't it? Do you solve all of your problems with violence? I feel sorry for your family.
 
2012-10-02 09:51:55 AM

THX 1138: TruBluTroll: The appropriate response to water in the face.

Heh. Toronto Pride day parade. The cops are always easygoing for that. Maybe the secondhand weed smoke mellows them out.


I dunno man, Toronto cops are some of the easiest going I've ever run into. Downtown cops are kinda assholish but the ones outside the core are really cool.
 
2012-10-02 09:53:09 AM

Karne: I hope your mom gets punched the same way by a large black man (and not your dad this time).



Racist posts are real cute.

/I bet you don't even see it
 
2012-10-02 09:53:27 AM

HectorSchwartz:

If you don't want to get punched in the face, don't Fark with strangers, Cops included. We are turning into a nation of COMPLETE PUSSIES that refuse to take responsibility for our actions. The biatch deserved to get hit, plain and simple. Why arrest her and put her through the long, arduous and costly court system when you can teach her a very valuable lesson in a split second? *WHACK* done.

Again, if you don't want to get punched in the face, don't provoke people. It's simple, really.


You didn't watch the vid, didja.

Moron.
 
2012-10-02 10:04:43 AM
After the investigation, I'm sure the police officer will be recommended for a citation for valor or some such thing.
 
2012-10-02 10:04:51 AM
I really hate a-hole cops, especially as someone who has been a part of punk rock music scenes and probably been ticketed by a cop because i was dressed as a punk and not a businessman, but I'm also a long-time hockey fan. I know a dive when I see one.

Am I the only one who noticed that the cop never actually took a swing, but rather contacted her face with his forearm as he was trying (forcefully) to grab the silly string from her hand?

She doesn't deserve a cent. She should be fined.

/seriously, i'm not trolling.
 
2012-10-02 10:24:02 AM
Ah yes. The City of Brotherly Love
 
2012-10-02 10:46:03 AM

BoxOfBees:

She doesn't deserve a cent. She should be fined.

/seriously, i'm not trolling.


For what? She didn't do anything except to come into the cops line of sight. That guy is a psycho, and should be permanently removed from any aspect of law enforcement. He can go flip burgers or sweep floors in a mink farm. After he does a couple years real time for assault.
 
2012-10-02 10:54:14 AM
Everybody look at Deathfrogg's link
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ff_1349088520
It's much better than than the original and you can clearly see that the woman didn't do anything, but was looking (and probably laughing) about the other guy who did spray something. And the cop also clearly punches her.

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Huh. Plenty of cops around when he sucker-punched that woman. I counted ten in the image and at least four were looking directly at both the puncher and the victim. Not a single one of them did a goddamn thing about it. Are they good cops?


*snicker* that's probably why there's 10 cops right there. They all know this cop is a bad one, and they need to keep an eye on him. Did you notice that right after the incident, they're all completely occupied with blocking the view of everyone who saw him punch the girl?
 
2012-10-02 10:55:41 AM

Big Man On Campus: Breathe Laugh Twitch: You know Apple just filed a patent for an iPhone feature that allows the phone's camera to be remotely disabled by some kind of signal.

Officially, the signal would be broadcast only in places vulnerable to espionage, and maybe movie theatres.

In reality, the signal will be used by corrupt law enforcement.

Everyone knows this will be the outcome, but Apple's engineers and managers and marketing people proceeded to implement it anyway. Should get a good raise and bonus out of it, maybe a promotion. Nobody ever accused humanity of overthinking the long term consequences.

So, if Google put the same feature in, and used it per law enforcements request... Apple could sue them?


Apple can sue you for making gloves that control the weather. They make patents for everything thats not developed yet.
 
2012-10-02 10:55:47 AM
I'm dismayed at the number of time people on teh internets refer to punches like this as a "sucker punch".

A sucker punch is one that comes when you're not looking or you are intentionally distracted to deliver a blow. That wasn't a sucker punch, she saw him coming at her.

Now, on that note, he should lose his job. There are 10 cops standing around and he's freaking HUGE and apparently, an a$$ole.
 
2012-10-02 11:09:25 AM

cryinoutloud:
*snicker* that's probably why there's 10 cops right there. They all know this cop is a bad one, and they need to keep an eye on him. Did you notice that right after the incident, they're all completely occupied with blocking the view of everyone who saw him punch the girl?


If they know he's a bad cop and they do nothing about it, they are equally culpable and therefore also bad cops. Cops who protect bad cops make the job harder for the ones who are actually good cops by destroying the public's trust in them.
 
2012-10-02 11:15:58 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Cop is in the wrong for the sucker punch. HOWEVER,

FTFA: Many point out that the young women simply threw some water from her bottle or sprayed silly string, others point to the fact that it was actually someone else out of shot who threw the substance that hit the officers.

There is no 'simply threw some water or sprayed silly string'.

There is no simply, when it comes to throwing shiat at someone else.

You don't throw shiat at someone else. That is assault.
It doesn't matter what is in the bottle.
You don't throw shiat at someone else.
You especially don't throw shiat at a fking cop.

I say call it even, then call it a day. They're both assholes.


You'd have a minor, minor, minor, minor point if the women had even done anything to the guy. I'm not even 100% sure she looked at him before he decked her. Yes you should not throw things at people or spray them with stuff. It's neither proper nor nice. However this is the equivalent of beating the newspaper boy half to death because he tossed the newspaper and it hit your front door instead of landing softly on the patio.

If you're trolling, well done.
If you're not trolling, you deserve to be on the receiving end of the Billy Madison from the principal.
 
2012-10-02 11:48:09 AM
WWTCD??

What Would Tom Cruise Do??

cdn04.cdnwp.thefrisky.com
 
jvl
2012-10-02 11:49:25 AM

vartian: Even if she did hit him with silly string (and I see very little evidence of that), what kind of dickbag do you have to be where your first reaction is to strike someone in the face?


Someone who has had piss thrown at them before?
 
2012-10-02 11:51:20 AM
Anyone here defending the cop clearly didn't watch the video. She didn't throw anything. It was someone else at the edge of the camera. She was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, and this cop showed poor impulse control.
 
2012-10-02 11:54:09 AM

BronyMedic: Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".

No, no, no. You have to look at it from the prospective that the lowest common denominator will. You know, White, lower class America.

She was a woman who didn't shut her mouth.

No American would ever convict a man for doing that. It's out of love, not abuse, you see.

[profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 200x272]


It was a black male cop hitting a white woman.
 
2012-10-02 12:07:02 PM

ThighsofGlory: BronyMedic: Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".

No, no, no. You have to look at it from the prospective that the lowest common denominator will. You know, White, lower class America.

She was a woman who didn't shut her mouth.

No American would ever convict a man for doing that. It's out of love, not abuse, you see.

[profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 200x272]

It was a black male cop hitting a white woman.


She was Puerto Rican. He might get away with it yet!
 
2012-10-02 12:09:01 PM

ThighsofGlory: It was a black male cop hitting a white woman.


That racist white biatch shouldn't have tried to injure that officer's fist with her face.
 
2012-10-02 12:10:45 PM

BuckTurgidson: spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.

HA HA HA not a chance.

He gets month's paid vacation and an exemplary performance review.


Your point is valid, but sometimes the ball does roll the other way: http://www.pixiq.com/article/cop-caught-on-video-kicking-woman-in-head -on-trial
 
2012-10-02 12:12:00 PM

HectorSchwartz: Derp derp troll troll blah blah.


FTFY
 
2012-10-02 12:17:52 PM
My CSB:
During my first weekend living in Philly (this past january), my housemates threw a party. Twenty-two cop cars showed up, for reasons we were never able to figure out, since no arrests were actually made, except the one guy who resisted after being tased. He was tased for not having ID. Another guy was also tased for not immediately showing ID, although he didn't resist. Another friend was detained, but not arrested, for five hours as a witness. ("am I under arrest?" -- "no" -- "can I go then?" -- "no" -- "I'd like to call my lawyer then" -- "you don't need a lawyer, you're not being charged" -- "then I'd ilke to go" -- "no").

I was told I'd be arrested for continuing to drink a beer in my own room (I'm 30), because re house was a crime scene ("what's the crime?" -- "we'll see")

Meanwhile, the owner of the house was on acid, screaming "what the fark is going on here" at the cops at the top of his lungs and was never touched.

Again, no underagers, no drugs were found.

Why yes, this was in West Philly, but outside of the University City district, why do you ask?
 
2012-10-02 12:21:44 PM

LeGnome: Your point is valid, but sometimes the ball does roll the other way: http://www.pixiq.com/article/cop-caught-on-video-kicking-woman-in-head -on-trial


Uh, what was the outcome of the trial.

I'll assume 3-months paid vacation to include PTSD counseling after being attacked so brutally, followed by a "Cop of the Year" award.
 
2012-10-02 12:23:01 PM

LeGnome:

Your point is valid, but sometimes the ball does roll the other way: http://www.pixiq.com/article/cop-caught-on-video-kicking-woman-in-head -on-trial


Convicted of felony assault but didn't serve even a minute of jail time. They won't even fire him until all his appeals are up, even though he is now a convicted felon.

http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/03/lincoln-polic e -3.html
 
2012-10-02 12:39:25 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Convicted of felony assault but didn't serve even a minute of jail time. They won't even fire him until all his appeals are up, even though he is now a convicted felon.


Probably get off on appeal... and reinstated.
 
2012-10-02 12:40:00 PM
It was a horrible crew of men, men with cop-souls...
 
2012-10-02 12:47:49 PM

ggecko: WWTCD??
What Would Tom Cruise Do??
[cdn04.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]


That was very rude, if not assault, and Tom Cruise should have decked the guy. No, really.
 
2012-10-02 01:08:56 PM

One Bad Apple: whyRpeoplesostupid:


BTW cold clocks

Isn't it cold cocks?

For all intensive purposes they mean the same thing


(golf clap)
 
2012-10-02 01:35:37 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Ah yes. The City of Brotherly Love


They love their brothers like Cain loved Abel
 
2012-10-02 01:50:21 PM
multimedia.heraldinteractive.com
WIZARD
 
2012-10-02 02:03:37 PM
CSB time:

The last time I was pulled over and wrongfully charged for a DUI (lawyer got the case dismissed; city is doing that a lot lately trying to raise revenue), I had an interesting experience with the cops. There were two of them; one white and one black. When we were standing outside my car, I told both of them not to touch my car or else I'd give them a rag and a quarter and make them clean it themselves. They got all in my face after that, and I told the black cop "Hey, I'm just concerned about keeping my property in good shape. That's something you should understand, with your ancestry and all." It was after that they decided they "smelled alcohol" on me and took me in.

/csb
 
2012-10-02 02:11:05 PM
this video shows a lot more clearly that she had nothing to do with the tragic water splashing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHYdHadL6eg
 
2012-10-02 02:17:50 PM
 
2012-10-02 02:32:13 PM
May that he is killed while on-duty...or better yet kill himself off-duty, like while cleaning his gun.

And soon...today.
 
2012-10-02 02:35:01 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".

Judging by the uniform, I'd say "Captain" is more apt.


Judging by the man inside the uniform, I'd say "brush-head bully" is more apt.

/People who annoy me.
 
2012-10-02 02:43:52 PM

BronyMedic: Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".

No, no, no. You have to look at it from the prospective that the lowest common denominator will. You know, White, lower class America.

She was a woman who didn't shut her mouth.

No American would ever convict a man for doing that. It's out of love, not abuse, you see.

[profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 200x272]


When you talk "lowest common demoninator" I think you mean

Weaver95: Calmamity: This kind of shiat is going to happen more and more often and people are starting to fight back.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

honestly, I think the best way to 'fight back' is to just film it and upload to the internet soon as you can. we're already living in a 'surveillance society' and we can't stuff the technological genie back in the bottle. might as well push this thing further and make sure law enforcement and the elites are open source as well. sure, they'll pitch a fit about it but..they'll find it difficult to write a 'rich person/law enforcement' only provision into the law and they end up protecting all us little folks in the process. And if they don't change the law, then everyone else will get to monitor the cops and elites in real time just like they want to watch us. And then everyone is happy.


You're probably right, but a very visceral part of me would love to hear countless stories of angry snipers targeting cops. I would love to march every single cop into the "showers" 1940's German style. All of them. So if you have a relative or friend who is a cop? F*ck 'em.
 
2012-10-02 02:47:52 PM

ButterMule: Say it with me...

Kill cops because cops kill.


I would elect you just on that slogan.
 
2012-10-02 02:52:08 PM

W.C.fields forever: Freakin' Puerto Rican..

//Freakin'Puerto Rican.


Freakin' "sounds like chigger" cop.
 
2012-10-02 03:08:40 PM

Ianman: followup


Link goes nowhere, thanks for that.
 
2012-10-02 03:21:32 PM

chuggernaught: Ianman: followup

Link goes nowhere, thanks for that.



Problem found and fixed.
 
2012-10-02 04:29:42 PM
OK, moral/ethical dilemma aside:
200 lb cop, 100 lb woman who gets blindsided by said cop, and she sits right back up and appears to ask "Why?". This cop can't punch worth a shiat.

And now, a moderately amusing story invloving silly string and violence:
I did some Merchant Police Officer work in Eastern Washington for a little while many years ago, and one of the people I worked with was Sally, a genuinely tough single mom who helped train the local PD in hand-to-hand combat. We get a call of a home invasion, and some poor idiot had the misfortune of breaking into her home at night, after a birthday party had been thrown there for her 6 year old daughter. She smacked him around some, but she couldn't knock him out, so she reached for what she thought was a can of pepper spray and hosed him down with it. By the time we got there, other officers had him subdued, cuffed, and were laughing about something. When I saw the guy, he had the appropriate bruises, cuts, and variety of wounds one would expect from being repeatedly kicked, punched, and hit with handy household items. He was also covered with a decent amount of silly string. It gave us something to giggle about for the rest of the week. We were all very proud of her.
 
2012-10-02 04:33:35 PM
So he beats up a local business person and his sons and nothing happens - why would we expect anything more from a simple punch to an innocent woman's head?

Oh that's right it was caught on camera.

SUCK IT YOU DOG!

Now all we have to do is film everything - covertly (because I bet those Lewis kids had their phones out filming, hence why they were confiscated and never seen again ... which sounds suspiciously like stealing and destroying evidence.)
 
2012-10-02 04:33:55 PM

CruiserTwelve: clyph: It's a first, ladies and gentlemen. C12 NOT coming up with a justification for police brutality.

It's far from a first. But guaranteed next cop thread somebody will say "You ALWAYS defend cops no matter how bad they are."


Would you, personally, have slapped the cuffs on this guy, and signed your name to the charges against him?

Do you admit that doing so would likely effectively end your career and earn you the undying hatred of your "brother" cops?

If you said 'no' to either, YOU are still part of the problem.

Your past posts have shown you to be so inured to the institutionalized abuse of authority and casual brutality, and are so immersed in the organizational culture, that you can't even recognize that a line has been crossed except in the most egregious and indefensible cases. Your definition of "misconduct" and the one held by the public are worlds apart, and you don't even seem to recognize that fact.

I'm sure you think of yourself as one of the "good guys". I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt and say you've never personally done anything that the general public would consider misconduct, never used excessive force, never engaged in racial profiling, never arrested someone for contempt of cop, never even fudged a little on an arrest report or stretched the truth a bit on the stand. But I'll bet a week's pay that you've turned a blind eye to all of the above more than once, and that that you personally have given a fellow cop a free pass for an infraction you'd have cited or arrested a civilian for.
 
2012-10-02 04:51:42 PM

clyph: CruiserTwelve: clyph: It's a first, ladies and gentlemen. C12 NOT coming up with a justification for police brutality.

It's far from a first. But guaranteed next cop thread somebody will say "You ALWAYS defend cops no matter how bad they are."

Would you, personally, have slapped the cuffs on this guy, and signed your name to the charges against him?

Do you admit that doing so would likely effectively end your career and earn you the undying hatred of your "brother" cops?

If you said 'no' to either, YOU are still part of the problem.

Your past posts have shown you to be so inured to the institutionalized abuse of authority and casual brutality, and are so immersed in the organizational culture, that you can't even recognize that a line has been crossed except in the most egregious and indefensible cases. Your definition of "misconduct" and the one held by the public are worlds apart, and you don't even seem to recognize that fact.

I'm sure you think of yourself as one of the "good guys". I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt and say you've never personally done anything that the general public would consider misconduct, never used excessive force, never engaged in racial profiling, never arrested someone for contempt of cop, never even fudged a little on an arrest report or stretched the truth a bit on the stand. But I'll bet a week's pay that you've turned a blind eye to all of the above more than once, and that that you personally have given a fellow cop a free pass for an infraction you'd have cited or arrested a civilian for.


This, actually. Distrust of the police doesn't stem just from the fact that there are a few bad cops out there - it stems also from the fact that the rest of them close ranks to protect one of their own, just like any other gang, when an incident occurs. Where are the cops in that video pulling the sergeant off that woman and questioning why he felt it necessary to sucker-punch a non-resisting (and, in fact, completely unaware), unarmed person in the face?

When I see that actually happen - when, in the middle of a parade, a sergeant assaults an innocent person without cause or justification and is immediately taken down and cuffed by other officers as a result - then I'll start believing in the system once again. Not one cop stepped in on that video - the whole point of law enforcement is to enforce law, and if you're not willing to do it on those in power, what in the hell is the point in claiming that we're equal?
 
2012-10-02 04:53:03 PM

clyph: Do you admit that doing so would likely effectively end your career and earn you the undying hatred of your "brother" cops?

If you said 'no' to either, YOU are still part of the problem.


So, just how is committing career suicide and making hundreds of powerful enemies gonna solve the problem? You think all of a sudden everybody is going to start burning down their co-workers/buddies from now on if he were to do such a thing? No, human nature would kick in, the thin blue line will rally the wagons, and nothing would change. Go ahead, buck the system hard at your job, see what happens. Making enemies of the guys who watch your back is stupid and accomplishes nothing but to ruin his own life.

I don't like it either, but you don't want policemen, you want police robots. You can't expect people to ignore their own self interest. It's silly, no matter what the idealism behind it.

Cameras on the uniform is the way to help solve this. Civilians with cameras also. Record EVERYTHING when it comes to police.
 
2012-10-02 05:16:10 PM

FarkinHostile: So, just how is committing career suicide and making hundreds of powerful enemies gonna solve the problem?


The problem is the culture that makes reporting misconduct career suicide. That culture can only exist if a) the rank and file overwhelmingly believes in it and b) the chain of command tolerates it

Good cops should all turn on the dirty ones, not close ranks and protect them. The fact that they don't is a scathing indictment of the entire system and culture.

Authoritarian types (IE cops) LOVE zero tolerance laws/policies. So what about zero tolerance for police misconduct?
 
2012-10-02 05:21:15 PM

vartian: Even if she did hit him with silly string (and I see very little evidence of that), what kind of dickbag do you have to be where your first reaction is to strike someone in the face?


I have a sneaking suspicion this wasn't the first time this guy hit a woman.
 
2012-10-02 05:27:39 PM

FarkinHostile: You can't expect people to ignore their own self interest


So you change the system so that it is more in their self-interest to report misconduct rather than to cover it up. Cash rewards for reporting, automatic termination and criminal charges for failure to report or coercing someone else not to report.
 
2012-10-02 05:45:35 PM

spqr_ca: When money become involved, the cops who don't toe the line don't stay employed.


Reality says otherwise.

How many departments have had to pay multi-million dollar settlements for police brutality cases? How many officers have been fired, or had their pay garnished, as a result?

The chief doesn't care - so what if the he has to ask for a bigger budget next year? The politicians will sign off on it without hesitation because they're all afraid of appearing "weak on crime". They don't care either, it's not THEIR money, it's not coming out of their pockets, they can steal more from the taxpayers with the stroke of a pen.
 
2012-10-02 05:53:09 PM
B O O M Payday
 
2012-10-02 06:06:18 PM

FarkinHostile: clyph: Do you admit that doing so would likely effectively end your career and earn you the undying hatred of your "brother" cops?

If you said 'no' to either, YOU are still part of the problem.

So, just how is committing career suicide and making hundreds of powerful enemies gonna solve the problem? You think all of a sudden everybody is going to start burning down their co-workers/buddies from now on if he were to do such a thing? No, human nature would kick in, the thin blue line will rally the wagons, and nothing would change. Go ahead, buck the system hard at your job, see what happens. Making enemies of the guys who watch your back is stupid and accomplishes nothing but to ruin his own life.

I don't like it either, but you don't want policemen, you want police robots. You can't expect people to ignore their own self interest. It's silly, no matter what the idealism behind it.

Cameras on the uniform is the way to help solve this. Civilians with cameras also. Record EVERYTHING when it comes to police.


Ya know that is what we pay them for!

That is what they swear to do!

Enforce the law without FEAR OR FAVOUR!!!!!
 
2012-10-02 07:15:08 PM

ggecko: WWTCD??

What Would Tom Cruise Do??

[cdn04.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]


Swallow.
 
2012-10-02 07:54:00 PM

Deathfrogg: Actual vid of the incident Liveleak, no advertising.

Some dude sprays a little water, and the cop sucker punches the first woman he sees. I wonder how many women have had their cheekbones or noses broken by this guy over the years? I'd be willing to bet dozens. Cops are the number one domestic violence offenders in the country. They're allowed to get away with it, because they're "heroes". The entirety of Police Culture protects these people.

This guy beat his wife, brutally for years. She'd been hospitalized several times with broken bones, and when she tried to report it, other officers would pay her a visit, and made it quite clear to her that any attempt by her to pursue charges would result in her disappearance or charges filed against her. The day before this incident, the cops tried to force her into an unmarked car at gunpoint because she'd testified about her abuse in a deposition only a few hours earlier.

This cop was still being called a hero at his funeral, and several thousand Police officers attended, while his wife was being excoriated in the press. Because of this incident, a law was passed that required the mandatory suspension and loss of all weapons for any law enforcement official accused of domestic violence. The law also required the loss of the Law Enforcement license for any Officer convicted of domestic violence. The Police Union fought this law tooth and nail and are still trying to get it changed back. They actually believe that is is their absolute right to brutalize their wives and children. They have said so, in so many words.


Entire law enforcement agencies do this sort of thing all the time. They lobby and spend money to keep bad laws in place that hurt the public and are designed to put more money in their pockets, while putting more American citizens in jail. Sad, but true. In the big scheme of things, cops are not our allies or our friends, but in fact they are our enemies.
 
2012-10-02 08:23:20 PM

Langdon_777: FarkinHostile: clyph: Do you admit that doing so would likely effectively end your career and earn you the undying hatred of your "brother" cops?

If you said 'no' to either, YOU are still part of the problem.

So, just how is committing career suicide and making hundreds of powerful enemies gonna solve the problem? You think all of a sudden everybody is going to start burning down their co-workers/buddies from now on if he were to do such a thing? No, human nature would kick in, the thin blue line will rally the wagons, and nothing would change. Go ahead, buck the system hard at your job, see what happens. Making enemies of the guys who watch your back is stupid and accomplishes nothing but to ruin his own life.

I don't like it either, but you don't want policemen, you want police robots. You can't expect people to ignore their own self interest. It's silly, no matter what the idealism behind it.

Cameras on the uniform is the way to help solve this. Civilians with cameras also. Record EVERYTHING when it comes to police.

Ya know that is what we pay them for!

That is what they swear to do!

Enforce the law without FEAR OR FAVOUR!!!!!


I study history, a lot. That scenario has never happened, as far as I can tell.

It's a perk.
 
2012-10-02 08:51:08 PM
That's what happens when you throw something at a cop

/she started walking away briskly before the cop had even turned around
 
2012-10-02 10:05:06 PM

Skyred: That's what happens when you throw something at a cop

/she started walking away briskly before the cop had even turned around



Bit late in the thread for trollin', no?
 
2012-10-02 10:19:14 PM

Amos Quito: Skyred: That's what happens when you throw something at a cop

/she started walking away briskly before the cop had even turned around


Bit late in the thread for trollin', no?


Yeah.. I thought this was from the 2nd
 
2012-10-03 12:05:05 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob:
Did the girl deserve to get punched in the face? Eh. Probably. To be perfectly honest. If it were two guys at a bar - a lot more of you would be like 'Haha! Serves him right!'. Some douchbag sprays silly string in your face; you punch him. That's life. People would call him a hero. Make it a girl...well....even with the best of intentions this country is still sexist as hell. Women's rights only extends in the direction we all think it should. Not in the 'true equality' sense. Women are still considered more weak and more frail.

Then make the other guy a cop? And now everyone wants to hate them.

I know, I know, people are going to call me a troll, which is fine. I also realize that this is a POTENTIALLY slippery slope. But at the end of the day, I'm really okay with living in a world where if you act like a complete douchbag you might get punched in the face.


So who exactly gets to determine where the "douchebag line" is? Is it you? Me? The individual cop on the street? What standard can be applied to define exactly what behavior constitutes douchebaggery, or is that left to individual interpretation? If it were up to me, you'd be getting punched in the face right now for making such ignorant and thoughtless comments, because I consider people who would suggest physical violence as an appropriate response to silly string to be complete douchebags.
 
2012-10-03 01:51:18 AM
As so many have pointed out, she didn't splash the cop with the water, but the cop attacked the first person he saw. He didn't think. He didn't use his training. He acted like an animal and attacked. Now remember this important detail. He carries a gun. Do we really want someone this out of control running around the city with a gun and a badge?

Also, any cop that covers for a bad cop is also a bad cop, regardless of his record that might show otherwise. You want me to respect cops? Then the cops needs to respect the Constitution and my farking Rights.
 
2012-10-03 11:10:35 AM
It seems the woman stepped on a can right before he punched her.
 
2012-10-03 01:07:29 PM

THX 1138: TruBluTroll: The appropriate response to water in the face.

Heh. Toronto Pride day parade. The cops are always easygoing for that. Maybe the secondhand weed smoke mellows them out.


Maybe they don't have Puerto Ricans throwing rocks at them from 50 ft away.
 
2012-10-03 01:14:35 PM

chuggernaught: Ianman: followup

Link goes nowhere, thanks for that.


Whoops!
 
2012-10-03 02:27:30 PM
Let's not let this one go away easily - let us find the follow ups and continue to see just how equal everyone really is.

This could be a good example of either our tax dollars actually being used to help us all or instead show us just how lost we have become ... if it is the later then the revolution is overdue (mind you I recon we can do it (mostly) bloodlessly this time ;)
 
2012-10-03 06:29:58 PM
One Bad Apple

Just because that dopey chick turned her back right before getting slugged doesn't make that a sucker punch. The Shoalin Tinkerbell defense is no match for a good slip

Oh look, farks favorite thug defending hitting women.

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
 
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