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2012-10-02 11:15:58 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Cop is in the wrong for the sucker punch. HOWEVER,

FTFA: Many point out that the young women simply threw some water from her bottle or sprayed silly string, others point to the fact that it was actually someone else out of shot who threw the substance that hit the officers.

There is no 'simply threw some water or sprayed silly string'.

There is no simply, when it comes to throwing shiat at someone else.

You don't throw shiat at someone else. That is assault.
It doesn't matter what is in the bottle.
You don't throw shiat at someone else.
You especially don't throw shiat at a fking cop.

I say call it even, then call it a day. They're both assholes.


You'd have a minor, minor, minor, minor point if the women had even done anything to the guy. I'm not even 100% sure she looked at him before he decked her. Yes you should not throw things at people or spray them with stuff. It's neither proper nor nice. However this is the equivalent of beating the newspaper boy half to death because he tossed the newspaper and it hit your front door instead of landing softly on the patio.

If you're trolling, well done.
If you're not trolling, you deserve to be on the receiving end of the Billy Madison from the principal.
 
2012-10-02 11:48:09 AM
WWTCD??

What Would Tom Cruise Do??

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jvl
2012-10-02 11:49:25 AM

vartian: Even if she did hit him with silly string (and I see very little evidence of that), what kind of dickbag do you have to be where your first reaction is to strike someone in the face?


Someone who has had piss thrown at them before?
 
2012-10-02 11:51:20 AM
Anyone here defending the cop clearly didn't watch the video. She didn't throw anything. It was someone else at the edge of the camera. She was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, and this cop showed poor impulse control.
 
2012-10-02 11:54:09 AM

BronyMedic: Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".

No, no, no. You have to look at it from the prospective that the lowest common denominator will. You know, White, lower class America.

She was a woman who didn't shut her mouth.

No American would ever convict a man for doing that. It's out of love, not abuse, you see.

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It was a black male cop hitting a white woman.
 
2012-10-02 12:07:02 PM

ThighsofGlory: BronyMedic: Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".

No, no, no. You have to look at it from the prospective that the lowest common denominator will. You know, White, lower class America.

She was a woman who didn't shut her mouth.

No American would ever convict a man for doing that. It's out of love, not abuse, you see.

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It was a black male cop hitting a white woman.


She was Puerto Rican. He might get away with it yet!
 
2012-10-02 12:09:01 PM

ThighsofGlory: It was a black male cop hitting a white woman.


That racist white biatch shouldn't have tried to injure that officer's fist with her face.
 
2012-10-02 12:10:45 PM

BuckTurgidson: spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.

HA HA HA not a chance.

He gets month's paid vacation and an exemplary performance review.


Your point is valid, but sometimes the ball does roll the other way: http://www.pixiq.com/article/cop-caught-on-video-kicking-woman-in-head -on-trial
 
2012-10-02 12:12:00 PM

HectorSchwartz: Derp derp troll troll blah blah.


FTFY
 
2012-10-02 12:17:52 PM
My CSB:
During my first weekend living in Philly (this past january), my housemates threw a party. Twenty-two cop cars showed up, for reasons we were never able to figure out, since no arrests were actually made, except the one guy who resisted after being tased. He was tased for not having ID. Another guy was also tased for not immediately showing ID, although he didn't resist. Another friend was detained, but not arrested, for five hours as a witness. ("am I under arrest?" -- "no" -- "can I go then?" -- "no" -- "I'd like to call my lawyer then" -- "you don't need a lawyer, you're not being charged" -- "then I'd ilke to go" -- "no").

I was told I'd be arrested for continuing to drink a beer in my own room (I'm 30), because re house was a crime scene ("what's the crime?" -- "we'll see")

Meanwhile, the owner of the house was on acid, screaming "what the fark is going on here" at the cops at the top of his lungs and was never touched.

Again, no underagers, no drugs were found.

Why yes, this was in West Philly, but outside of the University City district, why do you ask?
 
2012-10-02 12:21:44 PM

LeGnome: Your point is valid, but sometimes the ball does roll the other way: http://www.pixiq.com/article/cop-caught-on-video-kicking-woman-in-head -on-trial


Uh, what was the outcome of the trial.

I'll assume 3-months paid vacation to include PTSD counseling after being attacked so brutally, followed by a "Cop of the Year" award.
 
2012-10-02 12:23:01 PM

LeGnome:

Your point is valid, but sometimes the ball does roll the other way: http://www.pixiq.com/article/cop-caught-on-video-kicking-woman-in-head -on-trial


Convicted of felony assault but didn't serve even a minute of jail time. They won't even fire him until all his appeals are up, even though he is now a convicted felon.

http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/03/lincoln-polic e -3.html
 
2012-10-02 12:39:25 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Convicted of felony assault but didn't serve even a minute of jail time. They won't even fire him until all his appeals are up, even though he is now a convicted felon.


Probably get off on appeal... and reinstated.
 
2012-10-02 12:40:00 PM
It was a horrible crew of men, men with cop-souls...
 
2012-10-02 12:47:49 PM

ggecko: WWTCD??
What Would Tom Cruise Do??
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That was very rude, if not assault, and Tom Cruise should have decked the guy. No, really.
 
2012-10-02 01:08:56 PM

One Bad Apple: whyRpeoplesostupid:


BTW cold clocks

Isn't it cold cocks?

For all intensive purposes they mean the same thing


(golf clap)
 
2012-10-02 01:35:37 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Ah yes. The City of Brotherly Love


They love their brothers like Cain loved Abel
 
2012-10-02 01:50:21 PM
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WIZARD
 
2012-10-02 02:03:37 PM
CSB time:

The last time I was pulled over and wrongfully charged for a DUI (lawyer got the case dismissed; city is doing that a lot lately trying to raise revenue), I had an interesting experience with the cops. There were two of them; one white and one black. When we were standing outside my car, I told both of them not to touch my car or else I'd give them a rag and a quarter and make them clean it themselves. They got all in my face after that, and I told the black cop "Hey, I'm just concerned about keeping my property in good shape. That's something you should understand, with your ancestry and all." It was after that they decided they "smelled alcohol" on me and took me in.

/csb
 
2012-10-02 02:11:05 PM
this video shows a lot more clearly that she had nothing to do with the tragic water splashing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHYdHadL6eg
 
2012-10-02 02:17:50 PM
 
2012-10-02 02:32:13 PM
May that he is killed while on-duty...or better yet kill himself off-duty, like while cleaning his gun.

And soon...today.
 
2012-10-02 02:35:01 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".

Judging by the uniform, I'd say "Captain" is more apt.


Judging by the man inside the uniform, I'd say "brush-head bully" is more apt.

/People who annoy me.
 
2012-10-02 02:43:52 PM

BronyMedic: Elvis_Bogart: Kinda hard to talk your way out of that one, "officer".

No, no, no. You have to look at it from the prospective that the lowest common denominator will. You know, White, lower class America.

She was a woman who didn't shut her mouth.

No American would ever convict a man for doing that. It's out of love, not abuse, you see.

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When you talk "lowest common demoninator" I think you mean

Weaver95: Calmamity: This kind of shiat is going to happen more and more often and people are starting to fight back.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

honestly, I think the best way to 'fight back' is to just film it and upload to the internet soon as you can. we're already living in a 'surveillance society' and we can't stuff the technological genie back in the bottle. might as well push this thing further and make sure law enforcement and the elites are open source as well. sure, they'll pitch a fit about it but..they'll find it difficult to write a 'rich person/law enforcement' only provision into the law and they end up protecting all us little folks in the process. And if they don't change the law, then everyone else will get to monitor the cops and elites in real time just like they want to watch us. And then everyone is happy.


You're probably right, but a very visceral part of me would love to hear countless stories of angry snipers targeting cops. I would love to march every single cop into the "showers" 1940's German style. All of them. So if you have a relative or friend who is a cop? F*ck 'em.
 
2012-10-02 02:47:52 PM

ButterMule: Say it with me...

Kill cops because cops kill.


I would elect you just on that slogan.
 
2012-10-02 02:52:08 PM

W.C.fields forever: Freakin' Puerto Rican..

//Freakin'Puerto Rican.


Freakin' "sounds like chigger" cop.
 
2012-10-02 03:08:40 PM

Ianman: followup


Link goes nowhere, thanks for that.
 
2012-10-02 03:21:32 PM

chuggernaught: Ianman: followup

Link goes nowhere, thanks for that.



Problem found and fixed.
 
2012-10-02 04:29:42 PM
OK, moral/ethical dilemma aside:
200 lb cop, 100 lb woman who gets blindsided by said cop, and she sits right back up and appears to ask "Why?". This cop can't punch worth a shiat.

And now, a moderately amusing story invloving silly string and violence:
I did some Merchant Police Officer work in Eastern Washington for a little while many years ago, and one of the people I worked with was Sally, a genuinely tough single mom who helped train the local PD in hand-to-hand combat. We get a call of a home invasion, and some poor idiot had the misfortune of breaking into her home at night, after a birthday party had been thrown there for her 6 year old daughter. She smacked him around some, but she couldn't knock him out, so she reached for what she thought was a can of pepper spray and hosed him down with it. By the time we got there, other officers had him subdued, cuffed, and were laughing about something. When I saw the guy, he had the appropriate bruises, cuts, and variety of wounds one would expect from being repeatedly kicked, punched, and hit with handy household items. He was also covered with a decent amount of silly string. It gave us something to giggle about for the rest of the week. We were all very proud of her.
 
2012-10-02 04:33:35 PM
So he beats up a local business person and his sons and nothing happens - why would we expect anything more from a simple punch to an innocent woman's head?

Oh that's right it was caught on camera.

SUCK IT YOU DOG!

Now all we have to do is film everything - covertly (because I bet those Lewis kids had their phones out filming, hence why they were confiscated and never seen again ... which sounds suspiciously like stealing and destroying evidence.)
 
2012-10-02 04:33:55 PM

CruiserTwelve: clyph: It's a first, ladies and gentlemen. C12 NOT coming up with a justification for police brutality.

It's far from a first. But guaranteed next cop thread somebody will say "You ALWAYS defend cops no matter how bad they are."


Would you, personally, have slapped the cuffs on this guy, and signed your name to the charges against him?

Do you admit that doing so would likely effectively end your career and earn you the undying hatred of your "brother" cops?

If you said 'no' to either, YOU are still part of the problem.

Your past posts have shown you to be so inured to the institutionalized abuse of authority and casual brutality, and are so immersed in the organizational culture, that you can't even recognize that a line has been crossed except in the most egregious and indefensible cases. Your definition of "misconduct" and the one held by the public are worlds apart, and you don't even seem to recognize that fact.

I'm sure you think of yourself as one of the "good guys". I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt and say you've never personally done anything that the general public would consider misconduct, never used excessive force, never engaged in racial profiling, never arrested someone for contempt of cop, never even fudged a little on an arrest report or stretched the truth a bit on the stand. But I'll bet a week's pay that you've turned a blind eye to all of the above more than once, and that that you personally have given a fellow cop a free pass for an infraction you'd have cited or arrested a civilian for.
 
2012-10-02 04:51:42 PM

clyph: CruiserTwelve: clyph: It's a first, ladies and gentlemen. C12 NOT coming up with a justification for police brutality.

It's far from a first. But guaranteed next cop thread somebody will say "You ALWAYS defend cops no matter how bad they are."

Would you, personally, have slapped the cuffs on this guy, and signed your name to the charges against him?

Do you admit that doing so would likely effectively end your career and earn you the undying hatred of your "brother" cops?

If you said 'no' to either, YOU are still part of the problem.

Your past posts have shown you to be so inured to the institutionalized abuse of authority and casual brutality, and are so immersed in the organizational culture, that you can't even recognize that a line has been crossed except in the most egregious and indefensible cases. Your definition of "misconduct" and the one held by the public are worlds apart, and you don't even seem to recognize that fact.

I'm sure you think of yourself as one of the "good guys". I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt and say you've never personally done anything that the general public would consider misconduct, never used excessive force, never engaged in racial profiling, never arrested someone for contempt of cop, never even fudged a little on an arrest report or stretched the truth a bit on the stand. But I'll bet a week's pay that you've turned a blind eye to all of the above more than once, and that that you personally have given a fellow cop a free pass for an infraction you'd have cited or arrested a civilian for.


This, actually. Distrust of the police doesn't stem just from the fact that there are a few bad cops out there - it stems also from the fact that the rest of them close ranks to protect one of their own, just like any other gang, when an incident occurs. Where are the cops in that video pulling the sergeant off that woman and questioning why he felt it necessary to sucker-punch a non-resisting (and, in fact, completely unaware), unarmed person in the face?

When I see that actually happen - when, in the middle of a parade, a sergeant assaults an innocent person without cause or justification and is immediately taken down and cuffed by other officers as a result - then I'll start believing in the system once again. Not one cop stepped in on that video - the whole point of law enforcement is to enforce law, and if you're not willing to do it on those in power, what in the hell is the point in claiming that we're equal?
 
2012-10-02 04:53:03 PM

clyph: Do you admit that doing so would likely effectively end your career and earn you the undying hatred of your "brother" cops?

If you said 'no' to either, YOU are still part of the problem.


So, just how is committing career suicide and making hundreds of powerful enemies gonna solve the problem? You think all of a sudden everybody is going to start burning down their co-workers/buddies from now on if he were to do such a thing? No, human nature would kick in, the thin blue line will rally the wagons, and nothing would change. Go ahead, buck the system hard at your job, see what happens. Making enemies of the guys who watch your back is stupid and accomplishes nothing but to ruin his own life.

I don't like it either, but you don't want policemen, you want police robots. You can't expect people to ignore their own self interest. It's silly, no matter what the idealism behind it.

Cameras on the uniform is the way to help solve this. Civilians with cameras also. Record EVERYTHING when it comes to police.
 
2012-10-02 05:16:10 PM

FarkinHostile: So, just how is committing career suicide and making hundreds of powerful enemies gonna solve the problem?


The problem is the culture that makes reporting misconduct career suicide. That culture can only exist if a) the rank and file overwhelmingly believes in it and b) the chain of command tolerates it

Good cops should all turn on the dirty ones, not close ranks and protect them. The fact that they don't is a scathing indictment of the entire system and culture.

Authoritarian types (IE cops) LOVE zero tolerance laws/policies. So what about zero tolerance for police misconduct?
 
2012-10-02 05:21:15 PM

vartian: Even if she did hit him with silly string (and I see very little evidence of that), what kind of dickbag do you have to be where your first reaction is to strike someone in the face?


I have a sneaking suspicion this wasn't the first time this guy hit a woman.
 
2012-10-02 05:27:39 PM

FarkinHostile: You can't expect people to ignore their own self interest


So you change the system so that it is more in their self-interest to report misconduct rather than to cover it up. Cash rewards for reporting, automatic termination and criminal charges for failure to report or coercing someone else not to report.
 
2012-10-02 05:45:35 PM

spqr_ca: When money become involved, the cops who don't toe the line don't stay employed.


Reality says otherwise.

How many departments have had to pay multi-million dollar settlements for police brutality cases? How many officers have been fired, or had their pay garnished, as a result?

The chief doesn't care - so what if the he has to ask for a bigger budget next year? The politicians will sign off on it without hesitation because they're all afraid of appearing "weak on crime". They don't care either, it's not THEIR money, it's not coming out of their pockets, they can steal more from the taxpayers with the stroke of a pen.
 
2012-10-02 05:53:09 PM
B O O M Payday
 
2012-10-02 06:06:18 PM

FarkinHostile: clyph: Do you admit that doing so would likely effectively end your career and earn you the undying hatred of your "brother" cops?

If you said 'no' to either, YOU are still part of the problem.

So, just how is committing career suicide and making hundreds of powerful enemies gonna solve the problem? You think all of a sudden everybody is going to start burning down their co-workers/buddies from now on if he were to do such a thing? No, human nature would kick in, the thin blue line will rally the wagons, and nothing would change. Go ahead, buck the system hard at your job, see what happens. Making enemies of the guys who watch your back is stupid and accomplishes nothing but to ruin his own life.

I don't like it either, but you don't want policemen, you want police robots. You can't expect people to ignore their own self interest. It's silly, no matter what the idealism behind it.

Cameras on the uniform is the way to help solve this. Civilians with cameras also. Record EVERYTHING when it comes to police.


Ya know that is what we pay them for!

That is what they swear to do!

Enforce the law without FEAR OR FAVOUR!!!!!
 
2012-10-02 07:15:08 PM

ggecko: WWTCD??

What Would Tom Cruise Do??

[cdn04.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]


Swallow.
 
2012-10-02 07:54:00 PM

Deathfrogg: Actual vid of the incident Liveleak, no advertising.

Some dude sprays a little water, and the cop sucker punches the first woman he sees. I wonder how many women have had their cheekbones or noses broken by this guy over the years? I'd be willing to bet dozens. Cops are the number one domestic violence offenders in the country. They're allowed to get away with it, because they're "heroes". The entirety of Police Culture protects these people.

This guy beat his wife, brutally for years. She'd been hospitalized several times with broken bones, and when she tried to report it, other officers would pay her a visit, and made it quite clear to her that any attempt by her to pursue charges would result in her disappearance or charges filed against her. The day before this incident, the cops tried to force her into an unmarked car at gunpoint because she'd testified about her abuse in a deposition only a few hours earlier.

This cop was still being called a hero at his funeral, and several thousand Police officers attended, while his wife was being excoriated in the press. Because of this incident, a law was passed that required the mandatory suspension and loss of all weapons for any law enforcement official accused of domestic violence. The law also required the loss of the Law Enforcement license for any Officer convicted of domestic violence. The Police Union fought this law tooth and nail and are still trying to get it changed back. They actually believe that is is their absolute right to brutalize their wives and children. They have said so, in so many words.


Entire law enforcement agencies do this sort of thing all the time. They lobby and spend money to keep bad laws in place that hurt the public and are designed to put more money in their pockets, while putting more American citizens in jail. Sad, but true. In the big scheme of things, cops are not our allies or our friends, but in fact they are our enemies.
 
2012-10-02 08:23:20 PM

Langdon_777: FarkinHostile: clyph: Do you admit that doing so would likely effectively end your career and earn you the undying hatred of your "brother" cops?

If you said 'no' to either, YOU are still part of the problem.

So, just how is committing career suicide and making hundreds of powerful enemies gonna solve the problem? You think all of a sudden everybody is going to start burning down their co-workers/buddies from now on if he were to do such a thing? No, human nature would kick in, the thin blue line will rally the wagons, and nothing would change. Go ahead, buck the system hard at your job, see what happens. Making enemies of the guys who watch your back is stupid and accomplishes nothing but to ruin his own life.

I don't like it either, but you don't want policemen, you want police robots. You can't expect people to ignore their own self interest. It's silly, no matter what the idealism behind it.

Cameras on the uniform is the way to help solve this. Civilians with cameras also. Record EVERYTHING when it comes to police.

Ya know that is what we pay them for!

That is what they swear to do!

Enforce the law without FEAR OR FAVOUR!!!!!


I study history, a lot. That scenario has never happened, as far as I can tell.

It's a perk.
 
2012-10-02 08:51:08 PM
That's what happens when you throw something at a cop

/she started walking away briskly before the cop had even turned around
 
2012-10-02 10:05:06 PM

Skyred: That's what happens when you throw something at a cop

/she started walking away briskly before the cop had even turned around



Bit late in the thread for trollin', no?
 
2012-10-02 10:19:14 PM

Amos Quito: Skyred: That's what happens when you throw something at a cop

/she started walking away briskly before the cop had even turned around


Bit late in the thread for trollin', no?


Yeah.. I thought this was from the 2nd
 
2012-10-03 12:05:05 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob:
Did the girl deserve to get punched in the face? Eh. Probably. To be perfectly honest. If it were two guys at a bar - a lot more of you would be like 'Haha! Serves him right!'. Some douchbag sprays silly string in your face; you punch him. That's life. People would call him a hero. Make it a girl...well....even with the best of intentions this country is still sexist as hell. Women's rights only extends in the direction we all think it should. Not in the 'true equality' sense. Women are still considered more weak and more frail.

Then make the other guy a cop? And now everyone wants to hate them.

I know, I know, people are going to call me a troll, which is fine. I also realize that this is a POTENTIALLY slippery slope. But at the end of the day, I'm really okay with living in a world where if you act like a complete douchbag you might get punched in the face.


So who exactly gets to determine where the "douchebag line" is? Is it you? Me? The individual cop on the street? What standard can be applied to define exactly what behavior constitutes douchebaggery, or is that left to individual interpretation? If it were up to me, you'd be getting punched in the face right now for making such ignorant and thoughtless comments, because I consider people who would suggest physical violence as an appropriate response to silly string to be complete douchebags.
 
2012-10-03 01:51:18 AM
As so many have pointed out, she didn't splash the cop with the water, but the cop attacked the first person he saw. He didn't think. He didn't use his training. He acted like an animal and attacked. Now remember this important detail. He carries a gun. Do we really want someone this out of control running around the city with a gun and a badge?

Also, any cop that covers for a bad cop is also a bad cop, regardless of his record that might show otherwise. You want me to respect cops? Then the cops needs to respect the Constitution and my farking Rights.
 
2012-10-03 11:10:35 AM
It seems the woman stepped on a can right before he punched her.
 
2012-10-03 01:07:29 PM

THX 1138: TruBluTroll: The appropriate response to water in the face.

Heh. Toronto Pride day parade. The cops are always easygoing for that. Maybe the secondhand weed smoke mellows them out.


Maybe they don't have Puerto Ricans throwing rocks at them from 50 ft away.
 
2012-10-03 01:14:35 PM

chuggernaught: Ianman: followup

Link goes nowhere, thanks for that.


Whoops!
 
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