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2012-10-02 01:08:20 AM
She was jumping around behind them, yelling and throwing some kind of liquid on them. Then when they turned around she started to run. Granted she didn't get far but she was making the attempt.

Most people are smart enough to know that is just asking for trouble.

But now the public will cry racism or something like that and cause the police to apologize for doing their jobs.
 
2012-10-02 01:08:35 AM
Death penalty. There is no excuse for that. farking pigger.
 
2012-10-02 01:10:01 AM
He'll just lie and said he smelled gas and thought someone was dousing him with gasoline.
 
2012-10-02 01:12:18 AM
My wife had a pretty similar reaction the last time I decided to blow my "silly string" on her face.
 
2012-10-02 01:13:05 AM

organs in mains: She was jumping around behind them, yelling and throwing some kind of liquid on them. Then when they turned around she started to run. Granted she didn't get far but she was making the attempt.

Most people are smart enough to know that is just asking for trouble.

But now the public will cry racism or something like that and cause the police to apologize for doing their jobs.


No, she didn't. Someone threw liquid, most likely water, and it not only splashed on the woman who was punched, but the cop too.
 
2012-10-02 01:13:13 AM

RanDomino: CruiserTwelve
Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority.

headexplode.gif


Actually, while CruiserTwelve pretty much toes the blue line, I've found him to be fairly reasonable when the evidence isn't in dispute.

He'll give a CLEO a huge amount of latitude, but he doesn't like powermad pricks any more than the rest of us.
 
2012-10-02 01:15:09 AM

Mikey1969: Of course, the saddest part is the fact that this cop helps ruin it for the legitimate cops out there, and despite what farkers claim, there are plenty of good cops out there, people who became cops for the RIGHT reasons, shiat like this just makes more and more people become convinced that every single cop is dirty.


That's the assumption I make. Better safe than sorry....
 
2012-10-02 01:15:13 AM

The Dangerous Toy: He'll give a CLEO a huge amount of latitude, but he doesn't like powermad pricks any more than the rest of us.


But doesn't he give them more latitude precisely because he does like them more than the rest of us do? Your statement is contradictory on its face.
 
2012-10-02 01:17:21 AM
more like 230 or so

don't assault philly cops... how many times does this happen per year? Its like they're competing for Brutal Cop of the Month up there.
 
2012-10-02 01:18:05 AM

organs in mains: She was jumping around behind them, yelling and throwing some kind of liquid on them. Then when they turned around she started to run. Granted she didn't get far but she was making the attempt.

Most people are smart enough to know that is just asking for trouble.

But now the public will cry racism or something like that and cause the police to apologize for doing their jobs.


Um she didn't throw anything at them. If you watch the video and stop trying to be an idiot troll you will see that what ever landed on the cops came from somebody behind her, not her. The cop turned around out of anger and went after the closest person to him. Now I firmly believe that she saw what ever hit the cops hit them and tried to leave the area, but that doesn't justify getting clocked from behind. Neither does yelling and jumping around behind them.
 
2012-10-02 01:18:57 AM
Cop is in the wrong for the sucker punch. HOWEVER,

FTFA: Many point out that the young women simply threw some water from her bottle or sprayed silly string, others point to the fact that it was actually someone else out of shot who threw the substance that hit the officers.

There is no 'simply threw some water or sprayed silly string'.

There is no simply, when it comes to throwing shiat at someone else.

You don't throw shiat at someone else. That is assault.
It doesn't matter what is in the bottle.
You don't throw shiat at someone else.
You especially don't throw shiat at a fking cop.

I say call it even, then call it a day. They're both assholes.
 
2012-10-02 01:24:42 AM

untaken_name: The Dangerous Toy: He'll give a CLEO a huge amount of latitude, but he doesn't like powermad pricks any more than the rest of us.

But doesn't he give them more latitude precisely because he does like them more than the rest of us do? Your statement is contradictory on its face.


Nope. He gives cops in general more latitude because it seems, in purely my observation, that he believes that Farkers hold CLEO's to unfairly high standards that would require information that the CLEO couldn't have had at the time.

I often disagree with his opinions and feel that he is far too forgiving of unacceptable behavior. But he's not one of the sheeple badge lickers on here.

fark knows we're not hurting for those.
 
2012-10-02 01:27:16 AM

Forbidden Doughnut: Mikey1969: Of course, the saddest part is the fact that this cop helps ruin it for the legitimate cops out there, and despite what farkers claim, there are plenty of good cops out there, people who became cops for the RIGHT reasons, shiat like this just makes more and more people become convinced that every single cop is dirty.

That's the assumption I make. Better safe than sorry....


I have two close friends -- guys I've known for 10+ years -- who have become cops since I met them. I'd still lay down in traffic for either one of them, but I'd be lying if I said I was 100 percent confident that they've never stepped just a tiny bit outside of their authority. We used to talk about law and cop stuff all the time, but those discussions get pretty tense these days.

That said, neither of them would ever just step up and throw a right hook at a woman. What is WRONG with this guy?
 
2012-10-02 01:30:04 AM

skullkrusher: ButterMule: Say it with me...

Kill cops because cops kill.

I am a child who's starved for attention.

I do that right?


Not quite, but good try.
 
2012-10-02 01:33:19 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Cop is in the wrong for the sucker punch. HOWEVER,

FTFA: Many point out that the young women simply threw some water from her bottle or sprayed silly string, others point to the fact that it was actually someone else out of shot who threw the substance that hit the officers.

There is no 'simply threw some water or sprayed silly string'.

There is no simply, when it comes to throwing shiat at someone else.

You don't throw shiat at someone else. That is assault.
It doesn't matter what is in the bottle.
You don't throw shiat at someone else.
You especially don't throw shiat at a fking cop.

I say call it even, then call it a day. They're both assholes.


I hope your mom gets punched the same way by a large black man (and not your dad this time).
 
2012-10-02 01:37:10 AM

cretinbob: Gecko Gingrich: Judging by the uniform, I'd say "Captain" is more apt.

Yeah. This isn't an average patrolman. If it were a reaction punch I could see where maybe she shouldn't have done that, but that farker went after her.


*ahem* let me try this again.

Gotta watch out for the Whiteshirts.

www.policebrutality.info

www.bagnewsnotes.com
 
2012-10-02 01:37:41 AM

NFA: spqr_ca: You do know that there's no legal expectation of privacy when in public right?

That's only partly true. In some parts of the country the police have the right to privacy in public places. In some places it's against the law to video record police doing their jobs. Maryland was one of those places until a court overturned it. Maryland would charge people videoing police with wiretapping. Which is a ten year prison sentence.


There's a reason courts keep overturning those public "wiretapping" laws is because those laws themselves are illegal. Thats because THERE IS NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY IN PUBLIC!


Logic, how does it farking work
 
2012-10-02 01:40:51 AM

The Dangerous Toy: untaken_name: The Dangerous Toy: He'll give a CLEO a huge amount of latitude, but he doesn't like powermad pricks any more than the rest of us.

But doesn't he give them more latitude precisely because he does like them more than the rest of us do? Your statement is contradictory on its face.

Nope. He gives cops in general more latitude because it seems, in purely my observation, that he believes that Farkers hold CLEO's to unfairly high standards that would require information that the CLEO couldn't have had at the time.

I often disagree with his opinions and feel that he is far too forgiving of unacceptable behavior. But he's not one of the sheeple badge lickers on here.

fark knows we're not hurting for those.


I think I was more taking issue with your assertion that he doesn't like powermad pricks more than "the rest of us", which I took to mean Farkers. Because I still believe you're wrong about that. Even if he held only minimal respect for LEOs, that would still be liking them much more than the average Farker does.
 
2012-10-02 01:43:45 AM

clyph: Worst case, he gets fired with much public wringing of hands and claims that it was an isolated incident. Then he goes through the union appeals process and after the hubbub has died down he quietly gets re-hired with back pay and everyone pretends it never happened and hopes the media doesn't notice.


At least he's already a white shirt, so he probably won't get a promotion out of this.
 
2012-10-02 01:52:10 AM

LaughingRadish: clyph: For that to work, you'd need to change the rules on sovereign immunity, eliminate the "good faith" loophole, and prohibit the Nuremberg defense in misconduct cases.

...

Sounds like a good thing to work towards. How about we get some ballot proposition petitions going towards that end?


You do know the petitions have your name and address on them? I doubt you'll find anyone willing to accept the inevitable consequences for signing.
 
2012-10-02 01:55:14 AM

SN1987a goes boom: The video seems to be dead now.


It immediately went into ad mode when I clicked it... Automatically causing me to click the red X in the upper right corner of the page...

When I click on a video, I want to watch the video, not some ad for someplace in Philly that I'll never go...
 
2012-10-02 02:00:53 AM
Cop 1, woman 0!

/Better luck next time.
 
2012-10-02 02:12:26 AM

CruiserTwelve: Thunderpipes: Cops are usually union controlled, and are solidly Democratic, so there is that. All the cop hate here, and what you are hating on is your boys.

That's the funniest and most inaccurate I've read on Fark in a long time. Cops are, by far, Republicans.


At one time, they might have been.

They are now the Sheriff of Nottingham's men. They rob, pillage and kill under Color of Law, and are the Thin Blue Line between the peasants and the Federal Nobility. They make noises about an Oath they took, but damned few are vets. Why do you think they like to copy actual combat troops? Skin heads, Bloused boots, SWAT teams with automatic weapons, and they don't even have to worry about IEDs! It's why the get a stiffy thinking about shooting some little old lady. They get to play cowboys and Arabs, with no UCMJ to interfere with their fun.

The local Powers That Be don't want people smart enough to question whatever laws they are told to enforce. Local civic leaders prefer recruiting the coward/bullies from high school who liked setting fire to small animals. The Local Mayors then complain about civilians having guns, and the Left Side of the IQ Bell Curve nod their heads... Dem/Repub has nothing to do with it.

 
2012-10-02 02:15:24 AM

untaken_name:

I think I was more taking issue with your assertion that he doesn't like powermad pricks more than "the rest of us", which I took to mean Farkers. Because I still believe you're wrong about that. Even if he held only minimal respect for LEOs, that would still be liking them much more than the average Farker does.



You're right, of course. I meant Farkers. Obviously, we disagree. but since CruiserTwelve chimed in fairly early with:

"Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority."

I justbfelt that he should be cut a little slack, that's all. I don't pretend to know him, or to speak for him - but why make a villain of him when he's agreeing that this was universally wrong and made no argument to the contrary?
 
2012-10-02 02:16:46 AM
In before anyone suggests hearing the officer's side of the story.

/I think the woman's movements just before she turned to leave suggest she may have done something to provoke the response
 
2012-10-02 02:21:14 AM

reubendaley: In before anyone suggests hearing the officer's side of the story.

/I think the woman's movements just before she turned to leave suggest she may have done something to provoke the response


True, that is important. But maybe you should learn something about the VERY PUBLIC history of the agent. I linked above to a piece on him.

I live in Philly, and I recognized his name ... that's not a good thing for a cop.
 
2012-10-02 02:31:57 AM

spqr_ca: This is why you have to resist all attempts to prevent photography and videography in public of Police. Without this video, this guy gets away with it, with the video she probably gets a hefty payout and he'll probably lose his job. Which he should.


Lose his job? He should be charged.
 
2012-10-02 02:37:05 AM

GAT_00: vartian: what kind of dickbag do you have to be where your first reaction is to strike someone in the face?

A cop.


Its odd you hate cops yet love the drug war.
 
2012-10-02 02:40:52 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Douchebag should be in jail on assault charges


As should she be
 
2012-10-02 02:43:01 AM

The Dangerous Toy: I justbfelt that he should be cut a little slack, that's all. I don't pretend to know him, or to speak for him - but why make a villain of him when he's agreeing that this was universally wrong and made no argument to the contrary?


I wasn't attempting to make a villain out of him at all, and I think we're working crosswise here. I am obsessed with accuracy to a point which many find annoying. My objection wasn't to C12 at all in this case, but solely with your premise that he does not like police officers more than the rest of us do, which I believe to be a false premise. I am not attempting to make a value judgement on C12 for his esteem of LEOs, merely to point out that the average Farker's esteem for police officers is very low, likely much lower than C12's esteem for them.
 
2012-10-02 02:53:39 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Cop is in the wrong for the sucker punch. HOWEVER,

FTFA: Many point out that the young women simply threw some water from her bottle or sprayed silly string, others point to the fact that it was actually someone else out of shot who threw the substance that hit the officers.

There is no 'simply threw some water or sprayed silly string'.

There is no simply, when it comes to throwing shiat at someone else.

You don't throw shiat at someone else. That is assault.
It doesn't matter what is in the bottle.
You don't throw shiat at someone else.
You especially don't throw shiat at a fking cop.

I say call it even, then call it a day. They're both assholes.


I wouldnt call it even, but yeah.. Don't throw shiat at people.

Also, don't go after cops. They are trained to raise the level of force so that it escalates on their terms, with them as the winner (which I agree with). That doesn't mean they should be striking someone over this, but by now people should have a firm grasp on how 'ask, tell, make' works and what happens when you are active resistant or assaultive with police.
 
2012-10-02 03:04:08 AM
I'm glad the video was put out on the internet. It really aligns well with what I've come to expect from people and police.

See, the thing about police brutality nobody (except cops) wanna talk about is that, in nearly every case, the person deserved *something*. Maybe not a punch in the face - but seriously - what the hell is wrong with this woman. You've got a bunch of guys in their clean and pressed uniforms and you're going to walk up and spray them in the face with silly string? That's a giant dick move.

I remember everyone talking about Rodney King back in the day. Nobody ever mentioned how the other black guy in the car got out and didn't lead the cops on a high speed chase and how he didn't get beat. But no, everyone talked about the race thing and how cops in LA hated black people.

Did the girl deserve to get punched in the face? Eh. Probably. To be perfectly honest. If it were two guys at a bar - a lot more of you would be like 'Haha! Serves him right!'. Some douchbag sprays silly string in your face; you punch him. That's life. People would call him a hero. Make it a girl...well....even with the best of intentions this country is still sexist as hell. Women's rights only extends in the direction we all think it should. Not in the 'true equality' sense. Women are still considered more weak and more frail.

Then make the other guy a cop? And now everyone wants to hate them.

I know, I know, people are going to call me a troll, which is fine. I also realize that this is a POTENTIALLY slippery slope. But at the end of the day, I'm really okay with living in a world where if you act like a complete douchbag you might get punched in the face.

Sadly, what will probably happen is that she'll get a few hundred k worth of tax payer money. Now, instead of being a deterrent, more people are going to actively seek this crap out. I'd LOVE to get a huge payday for going around and being a dick until someone punches me.
 
2012-10-02 03:04:09 AM

slayer199: Here's the thing with the use of force.

She wasn't resisting, she wasn't fighting, she wasn't doing a damn thing but turning her back on the officer. The punch was totally unnecessary and the guy should be fired.


Charged and jailed you mean.
 
2012-10-02 03:09:37 AM
What is the solution to the cop problem?
 
2012-10-02 03:11:24 AM

Amos Quito: PIG TRIFECTA IN PLAY!


/This should be a fun thread


It all makes sense now. A cop apologist. Blind uneducated libertarian. Conspiracy theory wacko. You are the perfect definition for Rush Limbaugh's audience.
 
2012-10-02 03:23:47 AM

Smackledorfer: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Cop is in the wrong for the sucker punch. HOWEVER,

FTFA: Many point out that the young women simply threw some water from her bottle or sprayed silly string, others point to the fact that it was actually someone else out of shot who threw the substance that hit the officers.

There is no 'simply threw some water or sprayed silly string'.

There is no simply, when it comes to throwing shiat at someone else.

You don't throw shiat at someone else. That is assault.
It doesn't matter what is in the bottle.
You don't throw shiat at someone else.
You especially don't throw shiat at a fking cop.

I say call it even, then call it a day. They're both assholes.

I wouldnt call it even, but yeah.. Don't throw shiat at people.

Also, don't go after cops. They are trained to raise the level of force so that it escalates on their terms, with them as the winner (which I agree with). That doesn't mean they should be striking someone over this, but by now people should have a firm grasp on how 'ask, tell, make' works and what happens when you are active resistant or assaultive with police.


Look, it's not like this guy is an unknown quantity. He has continually managed to make the news here in Philly, and always in an unflattering manner. At least this time he did not kill someone, or get knifed while off duty in a bar.
 
2012-10-02 03:25:28 AM
Update:
"That officer, Lt. Jonathan Josey, 39, is assigned to Highway Patrol and is a 19 year veteran of the force.
A source who has seen Josey's file tells Action News he has roughly 20 internal affairs complaints, some for allegedly being physically and verbally abusive. "
- http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c7d_1349153174 
 
2012-10-02 03:33:05 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I'm glad the video was put out on the internet. It really aligns well with what I've come to expect from people and police.

See, the thing about police brutality nobody (except cops) wanna talk about is that, in nearly every case, the person deserved *something*. Maybe not a punch in the face - but seriously - what the hell is wrong with this woman. You've got a bunch of guys in their clean and pressed uniforms and you're going to walk up and spray them in the face with silly string? That's a giant dick move.

I remember everyone talking about Rodney King back in the day. Nobody ever mentioned how the other black guy in the car got out and didn't lead the cops on a high speed chase and how he didn't get beat. But no, everyone talked about the race thing and how cops in LA hated black people.

Did the girl deserve to get punched in the face? Eh. Probably. To be perfectly honest. If it were two guys at a bar - a lot more of you would be like 'Haha! Serves him right!'. Some douchbag sprays silly string in your face; you punch him. That's life. People would call him a hero. Make it a girl...well....even with the best of intentions this country is still sexist as hell. Women's rights only extends in the direction we all think it should. Not in the 'true equality' sense. Women are still considered more weak and more frail.

Then make the other guy a cop? And now everyone wants to hate them.

I know, I know, people are going to call me a troll, which is fine. I also realize that this is a POTENTIALLY slippery slope. But at the end of the day, I'm really okay with living in a world where if you act like a complete douchbag you might get punched in the face.

Sadly, what will probably happen is that she'll get a few hundred k worth of tax payer money. Now, instead of being a deterrent, more people are going to actively seek this crap out. I'd LOVE to get a huge payday for going around and being a dick until someone punches me.


as a member of law enforcement, you're supposed to act with more integrity and restraint than "a guy at a bar".

she shouldnt get a huge payout, but this dick lost his cool when he shouldnt and beat a woman for no good reason. he should be punished. if this isnt assault and battery i dont know what is.
 
2012-10-02 03:33:35 AM

ongbok: It is obvious when you watch the video that she didn't throw anything at the cops and the cop just turned and out of anger hit the closest civilian to him. But you can tell that she saw the water hit the cops and tried to turn around and get the hell out of there because she knew what was about to happen.

But even more disturbing than the cop hitting her is how the other cops stood around after he knocked her the fark out like nothing even happened.


THIS!

ALL of those cops who stood by and did absolutely nothing when a woman was brutally assaulted need to suffer something ... at the least they need to go back to the Academy and learn what their actual duties are. One can clearly see that there are different rules for police and citizens - if she had clubbed that cop from behind, you can bet your arse they would have beat her too the ground. But another cop does it meh "I didn't see anything". This relates to that whole "just following orders" thing - yes he is higher ranked but you are a sworn officer, it is not only your job but your duty to take the bastard down hard (he makes the rest of you look like wimpy dogs, just like he obviously is.)
 
2012-10-02 03:34:16 AM
Actual vid of the incident Liveleak, no advertising.

Some dude sprays a little water, and the cop sucker punches the first woman he sees. I wonder how many women have had their cheekbones or noses broken by this guy over the years? I'd be willing to bet dozens. Cops are the number one domestic violence offenders in the country. They're allowed to get away with it, because they're "heroes". The entirety of Police Culture protects these people.

This guy beat his wife, brutally for years. She'd been hospitalized several times with broken bones, and when she tried to report it, other officers would pay her a visit, and made it quite clear to her that any attempt by her to pursue charges would result in her disappearance or charges filed against her. The day before this incident, the cops tried to force her into an unmarked car at gunpoint because she'd testified about her abuse in a deposition only a few hours earlier.

This cop was still being called a hero at his funeral, and several thousand Police officers attended, while his wife was being excoriated in the press. Because of this incident, a law was passed that required the mandatory suspension and loss of all weapons for any law enforcement official accused of domestic violence. The law also required the loss of the Law Enforcement license for any Officer convicted of domestic violence. The Police Union fought this law tooth and nail and are still trying to get it changed back. They actually believe that is is their absolute right to brutalize their wives and children. They have said so, in so many words.
 
2012-10-02 03:41:29 AM

cig-mkr: Dollars to doughnuts this will never hit the national news.


You already lost because I saw the video on CNN first.

That poor cop is prolly nursing some bruised knuckles on his right fist. Itll be weeks before his fist is working properly.
 
2012-10-02 03:45:53 AM
See, the deal is that his magnetic personality is so strong that her face was powerfully attracted to his fist. 

But seriously, I love that there are people actually defending this guy here because 1) the police account has to be true because they would never be wrong or lie about anything to cover their asses, right? and 2) that obviously being the case, suckerpunching a woman is totally appropriate behavior for a cop when confronted with potentially lethal silly string or viciously sprayed water. You guys totally rock.
 
2012-10-02 03:46:15 AM

daxxenos: CruiserTwelve: Thunderpipes: Cops are usually union controlled, and are solidly Democratic, so there is that. All the cop hate here, and what you are hating on is your boys.

That's the funniest and most inaccurate I've read on Fark in a long time. Cops are, by far, Republicans.

At one time, they might have been. They are now the Sheriff of Nottingham's men. They rob, pillage and kill under Color of Law, and are the Thin Blue Line between the peasants and the Federal Nobility. They make noises about an Oath they took, but damned few are vets. Why do you think they like to copy actual combat troops? Skin heads, Bloused boots, SWAT teams with automatic weapons, and they don't even have to worry about IEDs! It's why the get a stiffy thinking about shooting some little old lady. They get to play cowboys and Arabs, with no UCMJ to interfere with their fun.The local Powers That Be don't want people smart enough to question whatever laws they are told to enforce. Local civic leaders prefer recruiting the coward/bullies from high school who liked setting fire to small animals. The Local Mayors then complain about civilians having guns, and the Left Side of the IQ Bell Curve nod their heads... Dem/Repub has nothing to do with it.


+1
 
2012-10-02 03:55:35 AM

sanktp: Update:
"That officer, Lt. Jonathan Josey, 39, is assigned to Highway Patrol and is a 19 year veteran of the force.
A source who has seen Josey's file tells Action News he has roughly 20 internal affairs complaints, some for allegedly being physically and verbally abusive. "
- http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c7d_1349153174


i came here to say this. what a piece of utter shiat.
 
2012-10-02 04:01:58 AM

The Dangerous Toy: RanDomino: CruiserTwelve
Cop should be charged criminally with assault and abuse of authority.

headexplode.gif

Actually, while CruiserTwelve pretty much toes the blue line, I've found him to be fairly reasonable when the evidence isn't in dispute.

He'll give a CLEO a huge amount of latitude, but he doesn't like powermad pricks any more than the rest of us.


Yeah, it's a fun bot.
 
2012-10-02 04:02:35 AM
Not going to lie... I kinda hoped he would have gotten shanked for that. Not killed, mind you. Just stabbed a few times right in the asshole part of his brain.
 
2012-10-02 04:06:30 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I'd LOVE to get a huge payday for going around and being a dick until someone punches me.


Pussy.
 
2012-10-02 04:08:12 AM

Quasar: Not going to lie... I kinda hoped he would have gotten shanked for that. Not killed, mind you. Just stabbed a few times right in the asshole part of his brain.


Your remonding me of that Sons of Anarchy scene and of course Jack Nicholson.

/mmmmmm nurse cratchet
 
2012-10-02 04:10:40 AM

Calmamity: This kind of shiat is going to happen more and more often and people are starting to fight back.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.


Nobody is ever going to fight back. Ever. If that were a five-year-old girl and that cop killed her, there would be - at best - a nasty letter to the editor written by us. We are pitiful and, because of it, allowed these adrenaline junkies to get where they are.
 
2012-10-02 04:28:56 AM

lecavalier: Calmamity: This kind of shiat is going to happen more and more often and people are starting to fight back.

It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Nobody is ever going to fight back. Ever. If that were a five-year-old girl and that cop killed her, there would be - at best - a nasty letter to the editor written by us. We are pitiful and, because of it, allowed these adrenaline junkies to get where they are.


Sadly, you are probably right. Things will have to get a lot worse before it might get better.
 
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