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(NBC News)   Cow makes milk with reduced allergens. No whey   (vitals.nbcnews.com) divider line 29
    More: Interesting, allergens, National Academy of Sciences, RNA interference, egg cells, University of Auckland, whey, breast milk, immunologists  
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2012-10-01 09:38:52 PM  
"Gentlemen,we can modify her lactative consistency. We have the technology....."
 
2012-10-01 09:41:48 PM  
Yes whey.

i837.photobucket.com

I really need to make some more Jarlsberg.
 
2012-10-01 10:28:47 PM  
This article doesn't make sense to me. This "cow" is 7 months old, way too young to even produce milk. How do they know it WILL be healthier and contain less allergens? That's the theory but you can't test the milk before it's collected.
 
2012-10-02 02:29:29 AM  
It's still going to be chock full of growth hormone and antibiotics, right?
 
2012-10-02 02:35:13 AM  

Apos: "Gentlemen,we can modify her lactative consistency. We have the technology....."


Just because we have the technology to mostly her lactative consistency, did you ever stop to think that we should?!
 
2012-10-02 02:35:48 AM  
Modify* not mostly. Damnit.
 
2012-10-02 02:44:44 AM  
I bet this ruins the ability to use the milk for a decent cheese.
 
2012-10-02 02:47:33 AM  
GMOoooooo?

/dnrtfa
 
2012-10-02 02:50:20 AM  

kisseswookies: Apos: "Gentlemen,we can modify her lactative consistency. We have the technology....."

Just because we have the technology to mostly her lactative consistency, did you ever stop to think that we should?!


Yeah... how's about instead of monkeying around with genetic modifications in animals (and really, this one had NO TAIL), we put the time and money back into figuring out how the allergies work in the first farking place? I mean, mine seem to be all dust/mold related, but I definitely didn't have them when I was a kid; not really til I got into my 20s. They're not even that bad, but I'd like to stop buying a controlled substance just so I can breathe better.
 
2012-10-02 02:57:53 AM  

ladyfortuna: kisseswookies: Apos: "Gentlemen,we can modify her lactative consistency. We have the technology....."

Just because we have the technology to mostly her lactative consistency, did you ever stop to think that we should?!

Yeah... how's about instead of monkeying around with genetic modifications in animals (and really, this one had NO TAIL), we put the time and money back into figuring out how the allergies work in the first farking place? I mean, mine seem to be all dust/mold related, but I definitely didn't have them when I was a kid; not really til I got into my 20s. They're not even that bad, but I'd like to stop buying a controlled substance just so I can breathe better.


As a woman who works with cheese, I fear the phrase "lactose intolerance". I've known people that didn't have it as kids. I don't want to develop it.

/I might be drunk. Relevant story bro?
 
2012-10-02 03:04:25 AM  

kisseswookies: ladyfortuna: kisseswookies: Apos: "Gentlemen,we can modify her lactative consistency. We have the technology....."

Just because we have the technology to mostly her lactative consistency, did you ever stop to think that we should?!

Yeah... how's about instead of monkeying around with genetic modifications in animals (and really, this one had NO TAIL), we put the time and money back into figuring out how the allergies work in the first farking place? I mean, mine seem to be all dust/mold related, but I definitely didn't have them when I was a kid; not really til I got into my 20s. They're not even that bad, but I'd like to stop buying a controlled substance just so I can breathe better.

As a woman who works with cheese, I fear the phrase "lactose intolerance". I've known people that didn't have it as kids. I don't want to develop it.

/I might be drunk. Relevant story bro?


Oh god, I fear that one even more than gluten (my sister's issue, migraines brought about by wheat). I'm hoping they figure out how to desensitize people to their allergies without killing them; it apparently worked for my friend who was allergic to cats before he started hanging out at my house and working at the humane society... albeit he took the hard route of exposure.
 
2012-10-02 03:09:01 AM  
So my 6yo came home from school with this today

Knock, knock
Who's there?
Cowsays
Cowsays who?
No, silly! Cow says 'Moo'!


/you're welcome
 
2012-10-02 03:13:52 AM  

ladyfortuna: kisseswookies: ladyfortuna: kisseswookies: Apos: "Gentlemen,we can modify her lactative consistency. We have the technology....."

Just because we have the technology to mostly her lactative consistency, did you ever stop to think that we should?!

Yeah... how's about instead of monkeying around with genetic modifications in animals (and really, this one had NO TAIL), we put the time and money back into figuring out how the allergies work in the first farking place? I mean, mine seem to be all dust/mold related, but I definitely didn't have them when I was a kid; not really til I got into my 20s. They're not even that bad, but I'd like to stop buying a controlled substance just so I can breathe better.

As a woman who works with cheese, I fear the phrase "lactose intolerance". I've known people that didn't have it as kids. I don't want to develop it.

/I might be drunk. Relevant story bro?

Oh god, I fear that one even more than gluten (my sister's issue, migraines brought about by wheat). I'm hoping they figure out how to desensitize people to their allergies without killing them; it apparently worked for my friend who was allergic to cats before he started hanging out at my house and working at the humane society... albeit he took the hard route of exposure.


OUCH! Trying to get rid of allergies through exposure is pretty extreme.

My bestfriend is allergic to cats and i just got a long hair from the local shelter, which means every time she visits I have to dust and vacuum everything and then lock the poor kitty in my room. And she takes meds.
 
2012-10-02 03:22:26 AM  
I don't think he was trying, it just kind of happened. He got lucky.
 
2012-10-02 03:51:48 AM  
"Because federal law says transgenic milk can't be consumed, the researchers aren't sure what it tastes like yet."

Hahaha, riiiiiiight.
 
2012-10-02 03:59:03 AM  

Ambivalence: This article doesn't make sense to me. This "cow" is 7 months old, way too young to even produce milk. How do they know it WILL be healthier and contain less allergens? That's the theory but you can't test the milk before it's collected.


the picture was taken when teh cow was 7 months old.
 
2012-10-02 04:17:45 AM  
This is really quite stupid.

All this work is being done essentially just so that dairy companies can sell more dairy goods to consumers, because god forbid someone be allergic to milk and then not buy it.
 
2012-10-02 05:26:07 AM  

ladyfortuna: kisseswookies: ladyfortuna: kisseswookies: Apos: "Gentlemen,we can modify her lactative consistency. We have the technology....."

Just because we have the technology to mostly her lactative consistency, did you ever stop to think that we should?!

Yeah... how's about instead of monkeying around with genetic modifications in animals (and really, this one had NO TAIL), we put the time and money back into figuring out how the allergies work in the first farking place? I mean, mine seem to be all dust/mold related, but I definitely didn't have them when I was a kid; not really til I got into my 20s. They're not even that bad, but I'd like to stop buying a controlled substance just so I can breathe better.

As a woman who works with cheese, I fear the phrase "lactose intolerance". I've known people that didn't have it as kids. I don't want to develop it.

/I might be drunk. Relevant story bro?

Oh god, I fear that one even more than gluten (my sister's issue, migraines brought about by wheat). I'm hoping they figure out how to desensitize people to their allergies without killing them; it apparently worked for my friend who was allergic to cats before he started hanging out at my house and working at the humane society... albeit he took the hard route of exposure.


One thing I have read /experienced, is that desensitization through exposure essentially primes other allergies.

I have thr standard dust/hay/animal hair allergies, but have regularly lived with pets all my life.

Definitely can get used to your own pet, but others can actually be worse and come hay fever season...

Though an anecdotal recipe against the pollen allergies is to regularly consume local unpasteurised honey. Again the whole desensitized argument.
 
2012-10-02 05:31:45 AM  
A) It's Auckland not aukland
B) It's true that the cow hasn't produced milk naturely yet but they stimulated some out of it for testing
C) 'Federal law'? this didn't take place in the states it was done in NZ we don't have a federal system if any restriction exists at all on consuming that would be from MAF.
 
2012-10-02 06:02:52 AM  
kisseswookies:
As a woman who works with cheese, I fear the phrase "lactose intolerance". I've known people that didn't have it as kids. I don't want to develop it.

It generally doesn't work that whey. Lactose intolerance = inability to digest it properly as adults, an evolutionary holdover that a large % of the planet share. Allergic sensitivity is a different thing.

ladyfortuna:
I'm hoping they figure out how to desensitize people to their allergies without killing them; it apparently worked for my friend who was allergic to cats before he started hanging out at my house and working at the humane society... albeit he took the hard route of exposure.

I used to be a lot more cat-allergic. But I've always owned them, because, well, cats! I don't react at all now unless the house is saturated with cat dander, or one's been sleeping on my pillow etc. Then again all my seasonal allergies seem to be diminishing with age as well so who knows. /anecdotal
 
2012-10-02 06:42:16 AM  
kisseswookies: As a woman who works with cheese, I fear the phrase "lactose intolerance". I've known people that didn't have it as kids. I don't want to develop it.

I've got it too now, I resisted the idea for some time as a stupid faddy diet thing but eventually i listened to my body saying "Look buddy you aren't a baby, and you're certainly not a baby cow, lay off that stuff it's not something middle aged African plains apes would naturally eat".

I must admit I'm interested in what this article might mean, its easier to control my weight nowadays using soya "milk" instead, but I really miss cow juice in my coffee and tea. And cream over my dessert. And Ben and Jerry's. And milkshakes.
 
2012-10-02 07:15:10 AM  

ladyfortuna: kisseswookies: Apos: "Gentlemen,we can modify her lactative consistency. We have the technology....."

Just because we have the technology to mostly her lactative consistency, did you ever stop to think that we should?!

Yeah... how's about instead of monkeying around with genetic modifications in animals (and really, this one had NO TAIL), we put the time and money back into figuring out how the allergies work in the first farking place? I mean, mine seem to be all dust/mold related, but I definitely didn't have them when I was a kid; not really til I got into my 20s. They're not even that bad, but I'd like to stop buying a controlled substance just so I can breathe better.



There has been much time and money put into figuring out how allergies work. How do you think the "controlled substances" you disdain were developed? Time and money will continue to be invested in whatever there seems to be a market for.

And who's the "we" in "how's about...we put time and money"? Are you offering your time or money?

I find it so weird when people complain "Why aren't more scientists busy doing what I think is important, dammit!". What gives people the moral authority to tell other people what specialty they should have gone into, or what private investors should invest in, as long as it's legal and not harming anyone? (I suppose an argument could be made in this case on an animal rights basis, but you'd probably have to be a vegan to be self-consistent with that tack, here.)

If you feel incredibly strongly about the matter, I suppose you could incentivise allergy research by investing tons of money in it yourself. (Or I guess you could try convincing your local government representatives that more national medical research grants need to be redirected to the issue, but I suspect it might be a hard sell to convince them that money urgently needs to be diverted from other programs in order to fund research aimed at alleviating the tragic misfortunes of mild allergy sufferers.)

Or just pop another Claritin, Allegra, Benadryl, or any of a long list of other things available for your convenience, and be thankful we live in an age such things exist.

/Now, do I think this research is likely to pay off as an investment?
//Nope, but that's their problem.
///Do I think the time and money would have been more usefully invested somewhere along the lines you describe?
///Yup, but it's private venture from the sounds of it, and therefore wholely their decision to make.
//Btw... you were agreeing with post that was a joke deliberately using the dramatic cliche of "but did you ever stop to think if we should!?!"
/If your own post was made as an even more subtle joke, disregard mine
 
2012-10-02 07:19:14 AM  

kisseswookies: As a woman who works with cheese, I fear the phrase "lactose intolerance". I've known people that didn't have it as kids. I don't want to develop it.


I was under the impression that lactose was not generally present in significant amounts in cheese, although I could certainly be wrong.

Also, lactose is not a protein, it is a sugar. Being lactose intolerant is not the same as having a milk allergy which, apparently, is set off by milk proteins. Lactose intolerance just means that your body doesn't manufacture lactase, the enzyme that breaks down lactose sugar. It doesn't cause an allergic reaction, it just makes your stomach upset or makes it into your gut where your intestinal flora work all sorts of uncomfortable magic on it.
 
2012-10-02 08:55:55 AM  

TwistedFark: This is really quite stupid.

All this work is being done essentially just so that dairy companies can sell more dairy goods to consumers, because god forbid someone be allergic to milk and then not buy it.


This. Jeez, how about if you're allergic to milk, you just drink soy milk or one of the other tasty non-dairy alternatives? Breeding a new cow seems like way more trouble than it's worth.
 
2012-10-02 10:21:21 AM  
i.ytimg.com
 
2012-10-02 10:22:54 AM  
www.thelmagazine.com


WHEY! 
 
2012-10-03 01:08:40 AM  
Isildur, you're drastically over thinking things here. Relax a little, have some cheese.

Also I'm poor as fark, buying the meds is a stretch much less investing in R&D, unless you count the stock shares I inherited in some medical company I don't actually know anything about. Other than that their stock price tanked a few months after I got them and hasn't recovered.

Again, have a snack. I think maybe your blood sugar is low.
 
2012-10-03 05:31:16 AM  

ladyfortuna: Isildur, you're drastically over thinking things here. Relax a little, have some cheese.

Also I'm poor as fark, buying the meds is a stretch much less investing in R&D, unless you count the stock shares I inherited in some medical company I don't actually know anything about. Other than that their stock price tanked a few months after I got them and hasn't recovered.

Again, have a snack. I think maybe your blood sugar is low.



Quite possibly; I'll bear that in rind er, mind. (mmm, therapeutic cheese)
However, the surprisingly tolerant tone of your response to my rant is itself already a good reminder for me to cool it. Sorry for going overboard.
 
2012-10-04 12:22:50 PM  
:D Glad I could help (you find the cheese)

Mmmm cheese. Lunchtime!
 
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