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(Some Guy)   Mike Rowe, on reports that he's endorsing Romney: "When it comes to the press, you can't put the poop back in the goose"   (mikeroweworks.com) divider line 231
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2012-10-01 04:31:41 PM
In before biatching about ZOMG MIKE ROWE SUPPOSRT RETHUGLIKKKANS I ALWAYSN THOUGHT DIRTY JOBS SUKED!!!11111

/One of the major problems in the country today is everyone feeling the need to drag politics into everything. I'm expecting to one day see a backlash against a porn star because they don't vote a certain way, which is why their cock isn't fully erect or their vagina is more cavernous than the usual.
 
2012-10-01 04:35:33 PM

FirstNationalBastard: In before biatching about ZOMG MIKE ROWE SUPPOSRT RETHUGLIKKKANS I ALWAYSN THOUGHT DIRTY JOBS SUKED!!!11111

/One of the major problems in the country today is everyone feeling the need to drag politics into everything. I'm expecting to one day see a backlash against a porn star because they don't vote a certain way, which is why their cock isn't fully erect or their vagina is more cavernous than the usual.


Too late....

Can't google it at work, but Jenna Jameson got a bit of a backlash.

That said, Mike Rowe has a very good point.
 
2012-10-01 04:38:17 PM
A few weeks ago, Governor Romney invited me to participate in a round table conversation with some local CEO's.

A classic case of hubris. Mike Rowe thought he was going to a real discussion on creating jobs because Mike Rowe thinks as a TV host he is an expert on creating jobs.
 
2012-10-01 04:40:35 PM
Man, I'd like to buy that guy a beer.
 
2012-10-01 04:44:16 PM
This really is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-10-01 04:44:21 PM
Nicely put, Mr. Rowe. Hopefully this kerfluffle will end with more people paying attention to your Big Idea.
 
2012-10-01 04:44:44 PM

WTF Indeed: A few weeks ago, Governor Romney invited me to participate in a round table conversation with some local CEO's.

A classic case of hubris. Mike Rowe thought he was going to a real discussion on creating jobs because Mike Rowe thinks as a TV host he is an expert on creating jobs.


Well, he's more of an expert than anyone in Congress...
 
2012-10-01 04:47:39 PM

WTF Indeed: Mike Rowe thought he was going to a real discussion on creating jobs because Mike Rowe thinks as a TV host he is an expert on creating jobs.


At least he has a plan which is more than Mitt Romney can say.
 
2012-10-01 04:48:35 PM
that was an effective explination. poor mike, it sounds like he was blinded by passion and naive hope. his underlying point is good and hopefully he can keep putting it out there
 
2012-10-01 04:49:25 PM
After I read white text on black background it screwed with my eyes coming back to Fark.

I think I saw Jesus
 
2012-10-01 04:51:07 PM

JusticeandIndependence: After I read white text on black background it screwed with my eyes coming back to Fark.

I think I saw Jesus


dsc.discovery.com

/never let it be said I didn't do anything nice for the broads on FARK.
 
2012-10-01 04:52:56 PM
Someone, for the love of God, please offer to redesign Mike's home page for free. It looks like Microsoft Bob.
 
2012-10-01 04:57:08 PM
To sum up: the Skills Gap affects us all, and the reason it exists is not a great mystery. It's simply a reflection of what we value. And what we value in our workforce needs to change. If you share my addiction to paved roads, cheap food, affordable energy, and indoor plumbing, I hope you'll support that effort. As for actual endorsements though, enough already. I'm endorsing a PR Campaign for Hard Work and Skilled Labor. No matter who wins.

Agreed. 100%
 
2012-10-01 04:59:14 PM

WTF Indeed: A few weeks ago, Governor Romney invited me to participate in a round table conversation with some local CEO's.

A classic case of hubris. Mike Rowe thought he was going to a real discussion on creating jobs because Mike Rowe thinks as a TV host he is an expert on creating jobs.


He's more qualified than Romney, Obama, or Congress.
 
2012-10-01 05:00:01 PM
FTA-"Our country is fundamentally disconnected from hard work and skilled labor. I've seen it firsthand in every single state, and the consequences are real. In Alabama, half the skilled workforce is north of fifty, and retiring fast."

Pretty much. As a contractor, it's getting scary. Plenty of laid-off factory workers & white collar guys peddling their "skills" as handymen trying to make ends meet.

But actual "craftsmen"? Very few and far between. The problem is there aren't a lot of jobs for any kid wanting to go into the trades at the moment, so why bother to learn?

Eventually this crapbox economy will recover, and there will be another boom. That's when the trouble will start. There will be a huge skilled labor shortage.

It takes years to train a good tradesman. Electricians, 5 years of otj training, and a few years of night school. Similar path for plumbers.

Even though carpenters don't really need to go to school, it still takes years of otj training before they are worth a damn.

Good news for the kids getting into the trades right now though. When the shiat hits the fan, they'll be able to write their own ticket.
 
2012-10-01 05:01:18 PM

WTF Indeed: A few weeks ago, Governor Romney invited me to participate in a round table conversation with some local CEO's.

A classic case of hubris. Mike Rowe thought he was going to a real discussion on creating jobs because Mike Rowe thinks as a TV host he is an expert on creating jobs.


No, I think his job enables him to have a point of view that he thinks is valid. We allow silver spoon assholes like Kraukhammer and Kristol to say inane sh*t all the time (and are supposed to believe them). Why not Mike?
 
2012-10-01 05:05:19 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, *there* is your candidate.
 
2012-10-01 05:06:30 PM
You know MIke Rowe was talking to Todd n Tyler last week, and they asked him about the news concerning Romney and his paper. Remember, he had Obama look at it four years ago as well.

His reply was basically this. 'If you want to get a politician to read something, tell him you'll vote for him if he reads it. They get RIGHT on that sort of thing if it brings votes in.'

So yeah, he basically coerced Romney into reading something he probably didn't give a shiat about by feigning interest in voting for him. Sadly the Romney campaign kinda trolled him a bit for his efforts, and it probably backfired as far as the interest he was hoping for. But like they say... any publicity is good publicity in some lines of work.
 
2012-10-01 05:07:27 PM

Basily Gourt: FTA-"Our country is fundamentally disconnected from hard work and skilled labor. I've seen it firsthand in every single state, and the consequences are real. In Alabama, half the skilled workforce is north of fifty, and retiring fast."

Pretty much. As a contractor, it's getting scary. Plenty of laid-off factory workers & white collar guys peddling their "skills" as handymen trying to make ends meet.

But actual "craftsmen"? Very few and far between. The problem is there aren't a lot of jobs for any kid wanting to go into the trades at the moment, so why bother to learn?

Eventually this crapbox economy will recover, and there will be another boom. That's when the trouble will start. There will be a huge skilled labor shortage.

It takes years to train a good tradesman. Electricians, 5 years of otj training, and a few years of night school. Similar path for plumbers.

Even though carpenters don't really need to go to school, it still takes years of otj training before they are worth a damn.

Good news for the kids getting into the trades right now though. When the shiat hits the fan, they'll be able to write their own ticket.


Where I am mid-lfe and would love to get into a trade and have no idea where to start or go to get the training and education I need to live out the second half of my life doing something usefull and leaving myself a decent retirement.
 
2012-10-01 05:09:27 PM
Two things not to discuss in polite company:
1. Politics
2. Religion
 
2012-10-01 05:14:39 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Two things not to discuss in polite company:
1. Politics
2. Religion


Add pro-sports to that list. farking hate being in a work environment and that shiat comes up, it completely kills productivity and bores the shiat out of me.
 
2012-10-01 05:16:59 PM

Girion47: Marcus Aurelius: Two things not to discuss in polite company:
1. Politics
2. Religion

Add pro-sports to that list. farking hate being in a work environment and that shiat comes up, it completely kills productivity and bores the shiat out of me.


Funny how the mind works. I read your post, then transmogrified your user name to Gridiron47 for just a split second.
 
2012-10-01 05:20:40 PM

KingPsyz: Basily Gourt: FTA-"Our country is fundamentally disconnected from hard work and skilled labor. I've seen it firsthand in every single state, and the consequences are real. In Alabama, half the skilled workforce is north of fifty, and retiring fast."

Pretty much. As a contractor, it's getting scary. Plenty of laid-off factory workers & white collar guys peddling their "skills" as handymen trying to make ends meet.

But actual "craftsmen"? Very few and far between. The problem is there aren't a lot of jobs for any kid wanting to go into the trades at the moment, so why bother to learn?

Eventually this crapbox economy will recover, and there will be another boom. That's when the trouble will start. There will be a huge skilled labor shortage.

It takes years to train a good tradesman. Electricians, 5 years of otj training, and a few years of night school. Similar path for plumbers.

Even though carpenters don't really need to go to school, it still takes years of otj training before they are worth a damn.

Good news for the kids getting into the trades right now though. When the shiat hits the fan, they'll be able to write their own ticket.

Where I am mid-lfe and would love to get into a trade and have no idea where to start or go to get the training and education I need to live out the second half of my life doing something usefull and leaving myself a decent retirement.


If you have the stomach for it, getting into the service side of plumbing can get you a good 6 figure income if you become self-employed.

Commercial refrigeration is another good field. That affects every aspect of our lives, good economy or bad. 

The iffy ones are electricians and carpenters. They ride the economic waves.
 
2012-10-01 05:20:50 PM
This whole scenario illustrates another major issue with our country - that people get their "news" from headlines and soundbites, and the fault falls equally on the media and the lazy public who consumes it.

Good on Mike Rowe for what he's doing. He certainly doesn't have to go out of his way to help people, and his message needs a greater dissemination.
 
2012-10-01 05:24:04 PM
I'm sure everyone who said fark Mike Rowe in the last thread will return and apologize....right? Right?
 
2012-10-01 05:27:30 PM

meat0918: Too late....

Can't google it at work, but Jenna Jameson got a bit of a backlash.


Jenna Jameson got backlash because her stance was stupid, given that Romney's official stance is that her industry needs to be eliminated wholesale.
 
2012-10-01 05:28:55 PM
So is the internet going to apologize yet? I have trouble determining who was more wronged - Mike Rowe or the people (including myself) who were provided this misinformation.
 
2012-10-01 05:30:58 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Two things not to discuss in polite company:
1. Politics
2. Religion


My grandmother taught me that back in the 70's.

/God rest her soul.
 
2012-10-01 05:31:57 PM

KingPsyz: Basily Gourt: FTA-"Our country is fundamentally disconnected from hard work and skilled labor. I've seen it firsthand in every single state, and the consequences are real. In Alabama, half the skilled workforce is north of fifty, and retiring fast."

Pretty much. As a contractor, it's getting scary. Plenty of laid-off factory workers & white collar guys peddling their "skills" as handymen trying to make ends meet.

But actual "craftsmen"? Very few and far between. The problem is there aren't a lot of jobs for any kid wanting to go into the trades at the moment, so why bother to learn?

Eventually this crapbox economy will recover, and there will be another boom. That's when the trouble will start. There will be a huge skilled labor shortage.

It takes years to train a good tradesman. Electricians, 5 years of otj training, and a few years of night school. Similar path for plumbers.

Even though carpenters don't really need to go to school, it still takes years of otj training before they are worth a damn.

Good news for the kids getting into the trades right now though. When the shiat hits the fan, they'll be able to write their own ticket.

Where I am mid-lfe and would love to get into a trade and have no idea where to start or go to get the training and education I need to live out the second half of my life doing something usefull and leaving myself a decent retirement.


And you are not the only one.
 
2012-10-01 05:32:38 PM

highendmighty: Girion47: Marcus Aurelius: Two things not to discuss in polite company:
1. Politics
2. Religion

Add pro-sports to that list. farking hate being in a work environment and that shiat comes up, it completely kills productivity and bores the shiat out of me.

Funny how the mind works. I read your post, then transmogrified your user name to Gridiron47 for just a split second.


I will say the biatching about replacement refs was filling me with an evil glee.
 
2012-10-01 05:34:46 PM
Have to agree with Mike. Too many people think they can land a nice, clean, easy desk job without much effort, while plumbers, welders, master carpenters, etc are getting rarer. The last plumber who worked on my house had an associates degree in computer science. He had been working as a plumber since high school to pay for college, when he realized two important points: 1. without a bachelors he wasn't going to get a job in CS, 2. it's impossible to outsource plumbing jobs to India. He gets paid by the job and his workload varies, but he does well enough.
 
2012-10-01 05:36:15 PM
The take away from this story to me is, just because Obama may or not have been busy or able to see you, at least he didn't respond like you mattered and sucker you into some Party Rally under the guise of a small, productive round table.
 
2012-10-01 05:37:40 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Two things not to discuss in polite company:
1. Politics
2. Religion



Who wants polite company? Too boring!
 
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2012-10-01 05:37:58 PM
The guy can address whomever he wants, and even campaign for whatever candidate he likes. Fact is mrW is the shiat. I've donated time and money to it, and I think it's one of the few things that will save the economy a few years down the road. Rowe says we need to do something before we're all swimming in poo. And he's 100% right. Politics doesn't have anything to do with it.
 
2012-10-01 05:38:17 PM

meat0918:

Can't google it at work, but Jenna Jameson got a bit of a backlash.


Giggidy.
 
2012-10-01 05:38:54 PM
Skilled labor, huh?
Well, for God's sake, nobody mention unions.
 
2012-10-01 05:41:23 PM
Our country is fundamentally disconnected from hard work and skilled labor. I've seen it firsthand in every single state, and the consequences are real. In Alabama, half the skilled workforce is north of fifty, and retiring fast. For every four workers that leave the workforce, only one enters to replace them. Our Skills Gap is a mathematical nightmare, and it's playing out all over the country. The result? Hundreds of thousands of jobs that companies simply cannot fill. It's a massive problem that no one talks about, because in most people's minds a labor shortage can't exist while unemployment is over 8%. But the facts are clear, and the gap is real.

I completely agree with him on the elimination of the skilled labor stigma, but I think he's being a bit out of touch with the number of employment vacancies. Go look at Craigslist. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry is still tripping over himself trying to be the guy you pick to remodel your kitchen or install new glass block windows in your basement. I get flyers mailed to me literally almost every day from contractors competing for business. If there were millions of skilled labor jobs available, people would be training and scooping them up. Not everyone who's unemployed is a lazy asshole. If I lost my job, I'd be installing ceramic tile the first opportunity I got.
 
2012-10-01 05:41:30 PM

Basily Gourt: KingPsyz: Basily Gourt: FTA-"Our country is fundamentally disconnected from hard work and skilled labor. I've seen it firsthand in every single state, and the consequences are real. In Alabama, half the skilled workforce is north of fifty, and retiring fast."

Pretty much. As a contractor, it's getting scary. Plenty of laid-off factory workers & white collar guys peddling their "skills" as handymen trying to make ends meet.

But actual "craftsmen"? Very few and far between. The problem is there aren't a lot of jobs for any kid wanting to go into the trades at the moment, so why bother to learn?

Eventually this crapbox economy will recover, and there will be another boom. That's when the trouble will start. There will be a huge skilled labor shortage.

It takes years to train a good tradesman. Electricians, 5 years of otj training, and a few years of night school. Similar path for plumbers.

Even though carpenters don't really need to go to school, it still takes years of otj training before they are worth a damn.

Good news for the kids getting into the trades right now though. When the shiat hits the fan, they'll be able to write their own ticket.

Where I am mid-lfe and would love to get into a trade and have no idea where to start or go to get the training and education I need to live out the second half of my life doing something usefull and leaving myself a decent retirement.

If you have the stomach for it, getting into the service side of plumbing can get you a good 6 figure income if you become self-employed.

Commercial refrigeration is another good field. That affects every aspect of our lives, good economy or bad. 

The iffy ones are electricians and carpenters. They ride the economic waves.


I would love to get into any of those to be honest, I can only ride a desk and a phone for so long.

Any suggestions on where to get started in plumbing or HVAC/Refrigeration?
 
2012-10-01 05:47:43 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Skilled labor, huh?
Well, for God's sake, nobody mention unions.


smart smart smart smart smart
 
2012-10-01 05:49:41 PM

KingPsyz: Basily Gourt: KingPsyz: Basily Gourt: FTA-"Our country is fundamentally disconnected from hard work and skilled labor. I've seen it firsthand in every single state, and the consequences are real. In Alabama, half the skilled workforce is north of fifty, and retiring fast."

Pretty much. As a contractor, it's getting scary. Plenty of laid-off factory workers & white collar guys peddling their "skills" as handymen trying to make ends meet.

But actual "craftsmen"? Very few and far between. The problem is there aren't a lot of jobs for any kid wanting to go into the trades at the moment, so why bother to learn?

Eventually this crapbox economy will recover, and there will be another boom. That's when the trouble will start. There will be a huge skilled labor shortage.

It takes years to train a good tradesman. Electricians, 5 years of otj training, and a few years of night school. Similar path for plumbers.

Even though carpenters don't really need to go to school, it still takes years of otj training before they are worth a damn.

Good news for the kids getting into the trades right now though. When the shiat hits the fan, they'll be able to write their own ticket.

Where I am mid-lfe and would love to get into a trade and have no idea where to start or go to get the training and education I need to live out the second half of my life doing something usefull and leaving myself a decent retirement.

If you have the stomach for it, getting into the service side of plumbing can get you a good 6 figure income if you become self-employed.

Commercial refrigeration is another good field. That affects every aspect of our lives, good economy or bad. 

The iffy ones are electricians and carpenters. They ride the economic waves.

I would love to get into any of those to be honest, I can only ride a desk and a phone for so long.

Any suggestions on where to get started in plumbing or HVAC/Refrigeration?


Decent lighting and camerawork?
 
2012-10-01 05:50:02 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: meat0918: Too late....

Can't google it at work, but Jenna Jameson got a bit of a backlash.

Jenna Jameson got backlash because her stance was stupid, given that Romney's official stance is that her industry needs to be eliminated wholesale.


She retired years ago, so her "fark you, I got mine" attitude is perfect for the Neocons.
 
2012-10-01 05:50:22 PM
Sauce for the goose is now re-inserted poop for the gander
 
2012-10-01 05:52:49 PM

KingPsyz: Basily Gourt: KingPsyz: Basily Gourt: FTA-"Our country is fundamentally disconnected from hard work and skilled labor. I've seen it firsthand in every single state, and the consequences are real. In Alabama, half the skilled workforce is north of fifty, and retiring fast."

Pretty much. As a contractor, it's getting scary. Plenty of laid-off factory workers & white collar guys peddling their "skills" as handymen trying to make ends meet.

But actual "craftsmen"? Very few and far between. The problem is there aren't a lot of jobs for any kid wanting to go into the trades at the moment, so why bother to learn?

Eventually this crapbox economy will recover, and there will be another boom. That's when the trouble will start. There will be a huge skilled labor shortage.

It takes years to train a good tradesman. Electricians, 5 years of otj training, and a few years of night school. Similar path for plumbers.

Even though carpenters don't really need to go to school, it still takes years of otj training before they are worth a damn.

Good news for the kids getting into the trades right now though. When the shiat hits the fan, they'll be able to write their own ticket.

Where I am mid-lfe and would love to get into a trade and have no idea where to start or go to get the training and education I need to live out the second half of my life doing something usefull and leaving myself a decent retirement.

If you have the stomach for it, getting into the service side of plumbing can get you a good 6 figure income if you become self-employed.

Commercial refrigeration is another good field. That affects every aspect of our lives, good economy or bad. 

The iffy ones are electricians and carpenters. They ride the economic waves.

I would love to get into any of those to be honest, I can only ride a desk and a phone for so long.

Any suggestions on where to get started in plumbing or HVAC/Refrigeration?


To start out as a plumber, you need to get a job working for a plumber. And starting out, the pay will suck. That's why it's tough to get into later on in life, unless your wife can support you.

A good idea would be to try and come in through the side door. Get a job with roto-rooter, or another drain-cleaning company. Requirements are low, and they might give you a hand getting training to get your plumbing license.

HVAC & refrigeration will require trade school. You'll have to check around where you live. Be careful, a lot of those schools are ungodly expensive.

Best bet would be to call around to a couple of companies, and ask them for a starting point. I live out in the boonies, and it would be impossible to get schooling here. If you live in a decent sized city, you should find something.
 
2012-10-01 06:04:25 PM

FirstNationalBastard: JusticeandIndependence: After I read white text on black background it screwed with my eyes coming back to Fark.

I think I saw Jesus

[dsc.discovery.com image 800x600]

/never let it be said I didn't do anything nice for the broads on FARK.


Thank you.
 
2012-10-01 06:04:40 PM
Hey, Mike? If you're onstage with Mitt Romney at a Mitt Romney rally and the first words out of your mouth aren't, "Mitt Romney is a lying sack of sh*t who got me up here under false pretenses" you really can't blame the press or anyone but yourself for people seeing it as an endorsement.

www.splicetoday.com
 
2012-10-01 06:06:53 PM
Mike Rowe has been saying these things (that need to be said and heard) for a while:

Mike Rowe speaks to Congress

That link is a repeat from sometime in the last 2 or 3 years. I forget when I last saw it.

I work in a skilled profession, one that used to be respected. Trying to get young people who even want to learn what I do is difficult, and finding young people who aren't too thick-headed or distracted to learn is damn near impossible. And as soon as they realize there is some physical effort involved and it isn't a 9-to-5 job with weekends and holidays off, they run for the exits.
 
2012-10-01 06:07:28 PM
Mike Rowe could vote for Hitler, or Goddess Moonpie Riverwater for all I care, he'd still be an awesome guy. A real man's man in a day of skinny-jeans wearing, hair over one eye, mincing marys.

I have a boring white collar job in data analysis. Would love to do something real...electrician, plumbing, fark, carpentry/furniture making would be a dream, but the little research I've done make it seems near impossible to get in to. Really, I'd love to get into the freelance furniture making. All the fun of carpentry with none of the bullshiat union politics.
 
2012-10-01 06:07:51 PM

Nadie_AZ: To sum up: the Skills Gap affects us all, and the reason it exists is not a great mystery. It's simply a reflection of what we value. And what we value in our workforce needs to change. If you share my addiction to paved roads, cheap food, affordable energy, and indoor plumbing, I hope you'll support that effort. As for actual endorsements though, enough already. I'm endorsing a PR Campaign for Hard Work and Skilled Labor. No matter who wins.

Agreed. 100%


yup.. He and Mike Holmes (canada) are 100% right about it. the modern world exists on the shoulders of skilled trades.. and we've been shiatting on the skilled trades for years.
 
2012-10-01 06:09:35 PM

Nadie_AZ: To sum up: the Skills Gap affects us all, and the reason it exists is not a great mystery. It's simply a reflection of what we value. And what we value in our workforce needs to change. If you share my addiction to paved roads, cheap food, affordable energy, and indoor plumbing, I hope you'll support that effort. As for actual endorsements though, enough already. I'm endorsing a PR Campaign for Hard Work and Skilled Labor. No matter who wins.

Agreed. 100%


So he endorses the guy infamous for sending skilled labor jobs overseas?
 
2012-10-01 06:15:30 PM
I don't care who he endorses - I'd still sit on his face.
 
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