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(Creative Loafing Atlanta)   City: We welcome your $100 Million investment. Company: The Street our Facility is on is named after a Nazi Sympathizer. City: Sure, what do you suggest we change it to? Company: Our Founder, a Real Nazi   (clatl.com) divider line 80
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2012-10-01 02:24:28 PM  
What about all of those high schools named after General Lee? He was indifferent to the slaves dilemma.

What about having everything named George Washington stricken from every place in the US? He was a slave holder who exploited them.

Should we throw Ceaser's name out of the window for his atrocities?

If you were not to ever acknowledge a person who made life better for all of humanity but had a few skeletons in their closet then every single memorial must be torn down.
 
2012-10-01 02:25:20 PM  

cman: What about all of those high schools named after General Lee? He was indifferent to the slaves dilemma.

What about having everything named George Washington stricken from every place in the US? He was a slave holder who exploited them.

Should we throw Ceaser's name out of the window for his atrocities?

If you were not to ever acknowledge a person who made life better for all of humanity but had a few skeletons in their closet then every single memorial must be torn down.


To elaborate, we are not talking about Hitler; we are talking about one of the most important men in automotive history.
 
2012-10-01 02:30:29 PM  
the company wants the city to "do" the founder? Is that the porno usage of the word "do", or the mafia usage?
 
2012-10-01 02:34:26 PM  
Henry Ford a Nazi and a Republican... but the two are not synonymous, yet.
 
2012-10-01 02:41:05 PM  
Wehrmacht =! Nazi

Yes VW and Porsche had slave labor but by the time they did it was more than likely the state was running their factory or at least heavily involved. There is no evidence I can find of Porsche adhering to Nazi ideology all though he was a member of the party. Yes he was a weapons designer but we have gotten over that and there is no foul in designing tanks for your country during times of war, it's not like he was making WMDs or tools for the camps.
 
2012-10-01 02:41:43 PM  

serial_crusher: the company wants the city to "do" the founder? Is that the porno usage of the word "do", or the mafia usage?


Can't it be both?
 
2012-10-01 03:36:54 PM  
They should've said the street was to be named after Ferdinand Porsche's son, Ferdinand Porsche. Who actually had more to do with Porsche becoming what it is now than his dad did.
 
2012-10-01 03:45:53 PM  

cman: Should we throw Ceaser's name out of the window for his atrocities?


Yeah, fark his salads.
 
2012-10-01 03:50:24 PM  

The Onion is prophetic: cman: Should we throw Ceaser's name out of the window for his atrocities?

Yeah, fark his salads.


More than just a salad is named after him. Hell, the month of July is named after him
 
2012-10-01 04:08:19 PM  
Given that the company actually DID make reparations from the war (like almost all German civilian industries), I don't see the issue. Porsche was part of the Nazi party the same way that lots of German civilians were - you supported the party because they were in charge and they had an army with lots of guns. The article even says he was exonerated of war crimes charges after the war.

There are a lot bigger issues than giving a street name to German businessman from the 1940s.
 
2012-10-01 04:10:32 PM  

cman: The Onion is prophetic: cman: Should we throw Ceaser's name out of the window for his atrocities?

Yeah, fark his salads.

More than just a salad is named after him. Hell, the month of July is named after him


As befitting a man of his august credentials.
 
2012-10-01 04:11:58 PM  
Henry "the only American to have been awarded the Iron Cross by Adolph Hitler, who quoted him extensively and kept his portrait in his office in Germany" Ford? That Henry Ford?
 
2012-10-01 04:13:10 PM  

dittybopper: cman: The Onion is prophetic: cman: Should we throw Ceaser's name out of the window for his atrocities?

Yeah, fark his salads.

More than just a salad is named after him. Hell, the month of July is named after him

As befitting a man of his august credentials.


July is named after Julius Caesar
August is named after Augustus Caesar.

When one talks about Caesar they are usually referring to Julius. When they are talking about Augustus, they use the full Augustus Caesar
 
2012-10-01 04:16:53 PM  
Millions of travelers who fly into the world's busiest airport each year will catch a glimpse of the 26-acre complex, which will incude a green roof, a racetrack for enthusiasts to test their Cayennes, and a restaurant.

I just got this hilarious image of a soccer mom wearing some over-sized pink helmet driving 45 around the track.
 
2012-10-01 04:17:10 PM  
One of the main streets in Windhoek, Namibia is named after Goering -- not the Reichsmarshall, but his father Heinrich, who was a colonial governor.
 
2012-10-01 04:17:54 PM  
So we are finally getting rid of everything named after the vile Woodrow Wilson?

/yarly
//resegregated the postal service, among other evils
 
2012-10-01 04:17:57 PM  

dr.zaeus: and a restaurant.


all the burgers will be made of dressed up bugs
 
2012-10-01 04:22:37 PM  
Millions of travelers who fly into the world's busiest airport each year will catch a glimpse of the 26-acre complex, which will incude a green roof, a racetrack for enthusiasts to test their Cayennes, and a restaurant.

I wonder how this is going to be with a jet screaming over every 90 seconds. If you haven't seen this property it's basically right off the end of the North runways. That can't be a pleasant place to hang around.
 
2012-10-01 04:23:53 PM  
So giving $100M to a company started by a Nazi is ok, but naming the street their facility is on after them isn't?

Better have them change the name on the cars, too.
 
2012-10-01 04:35:04 PM  
How did the city nazi that one coming?
 
2012-10-01 04:54:35 PM  

cman: The Onion is prophetic: cman: Should we throw Ceaser's name out of the window for his atrocities?

Yeah, fark his salads.

More than just a salad is named after him. Hell, the month of July is named after him


Also, the epileptic "seizure" is a Teutonic form of "Ceaser"

/ I made that up
 
2012-10-01 05:05:33 PM  

Soymilk: How did the city nazi that one coming?


i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-01 05:06:47 PM  

dr.zaeus: Millions of travelers who fly into the world's busiest airport each year will catch a glimpse of the 26-acre complex, which will incude a green roof, a racetrack for enthusiasts to test their Cayennes, and a restaurant.

I just got this hilarious image of a soccer mom wearing some over-sized pink helmet driving 45 around the track.


If they had said "Caymans," I might have been able to take the article seriously.
 
2012-10-01 05:07:38 PM  
Cesar Geronimo was one of my favorite baseball players when I was little.
It's fun to say CESAR GERONIMOOOOO!!
 
/Cesar is spanish for Caesar, right?
 
2012-10-01 05:15:06 PM  
Haha fascists Porsche! Fark 'em!

/gotta go, my Mitsubishi ready at the shop.
 
2012-10-01 05:18:50 PM  

WhyteRaven74: They should've said the street was to be named after Ferdinand Porsche's son, Ferdinand Porsche. Who actually had more to do with Porsche becoming what it is now than his dad did.


Ferdinand Porsche no not the Nazi one his son who was actually way cooler Street

It's got a ring to it.

/Or you could just do Ferdinand Alexander Porsche Street or something I don't know
 
2012-10-01 05:19:55 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Ferdinand Alexander Porsche


Just use his initials;)
 
2012-10-01 05:20:45 PM  

cman:
If you were not to ever acknowledge a person who made life better for all of humanity but had a few skeletons in their closet then every single memorial must be torn down.


Umm, the dude built cars, man. He didn't cure cancer, or invent the light bulb.

Weighing that against his active participation in the German war effort, something that made life considerably worse for millions of people, I'm going to do something I rarely do, and side with Atlanta's city council on this one.
 
2012-10-01 05:28:59 PM  
www.covvc.org

The '52 oval split is one of the coolest looking cars ever to come out of a plant stock. It is not relevant to the conversation, I'm just saying I want one completely stock with semaphores. They made this car nearly twenty years before Chevy and Ford tried to get into the 4 cyl, economy market with the Vega and Pinto and the Beetle still holds up better than those giant hunks of failing crap.
 
2012-10-01 05:35:35 PM  
www.arightroyalblog.com

You know who else had problems selling cars in the U.S. ?
 
2012-10-01 05:37:53 PM  

Mr. Potatoass: [www.arightroyalblog.com image 237x300]

You know who else had problems selling cars in the U.S. ?


Nicolas Cage's great grandfather?
 
2012-10-01 05:49:40 PM  
geeeez. Do we really care? Here in the U.S.? Most people will see the Porsche name and go, "Oooh.. cool! Porsche!"
Not, "Goddammitsomuch! I can't believe they named a street after that Nazi! You know, they should ban that car company all together!"

History is not repeating itself people!!
or, is it...
 
2012-10-01 06:13:29 PM  

Rent Party: cman:
If you were not to ever acknowledge a person who made life better for all of humanity but had a few skeletons in their closet then every single memorial must be torn down.

Umm, the dude built cars, man. He didn't cure cancer, or invent the light bulb.

Weighing that against his active participation in the German war effort, something that made life considerably worse for millions of people, I'm going to do something I rarely do, and side with Atlanta's city council on this one.


Streets are not named after him in Germany.
 
2012-10-01 06:16:06 PM  
I know he's the guy behind Porche and Volkswagen, but didn't he also have something to do with Audi, back in the day? I seem to recall hearing something about that, but I could be wrong...
 
2012-10-01 06:17:13 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I know he's the guy behind Porche and Volkswagen, but didn't he also have something to do with Audi, back in the day? I seem to recall hearing something about that, but I could be wrong...


Audi? FFS.

For that abortion alone he should be ridiculed for eternity.
 
2012-10-01 06:18:38 PM  
and not a fark was given.
 
2012-10-01 06:20:19 PM  
And not a single fark was given
 
2012-10-01 06:21:43 PM  

The Muthaship: Mr. Potatoass: [www.arightroyalblog.com image 237x300]

You know who else had problems selling cars in the U.S. ?

Nicolas Cage's great grandfather?


Your argument is invalid.
 
2012-10-01 06:31:04 PM  

cman: If you were not to ever acknowledge a person who made life better for all of humanity but had a few skeletons in their closet then every single memorial must be torn down.


Chesty Puller left skeletons on the battlefield, not in his closet
 
2012-10-01 06:36:52 PM  

The Muthaship: So giving $100M to a company started by a Nazi is ok, but naming the street their facility is on after them isn't?

Better have them change the name on the cars, too.


They have decided to name it after the company . The problem was naming it after the individual who has nothing to do with the modern company (being dead for over 60 years and all). Porsche and Ferdinand Porsche are very different things.

They should have named it Ferdinand Alexander Porsche Ave to maintain the policy of naming roads after a person, not the corporation and he was only 9 years old when the Nazis fell and he played a major role in designing the 911.
 
2012-10-01 07:00:04 PM  
People forget that, many times, German companies and citizens didn't really have much of a choice when it came to supporting the Nazis --especially if you owned any sort of manufacturing business.
 
2012-10-01 07:02:07 PM  
See this man?

upload.wikimedia.org

His name is Albert Speer Jr. He's an architect, just like his had, Albert Speer.

Albert Speer worked for Hitler. So, imagine knowing that, and asking his son for a project...
 
2012-10-01 07:04:06 PM  

CygnusDarius: See this man?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 215x288]

His name is Albert Speer Jr. He's an architect, just like his had, Albert Speer.

Albert Speer worked for Hitler. So, imagine knowing that, and asking his son for a project...


Great documentary on all of the descendants of the Third Reich...

Hitler's Children
 
2012-10-01 07:08:36 PM  
Imagine if... Oh, say the Republicans won enough of a majority to make laws that effectively shut out other parties by requiring standards of registration too high for any other party to be viable, and dolled out the contracts and concessions based on party affiliation, would it be beneficial to have a Republican card?

I'm not saying Republicans are like Nazi's because I actually understand Nazism, but it's the model of what happens when one party finally wins outright.
 
2012-10-01 07:35:31 PM  

cman: What about all of those high schools named after General Lee? He was indifferent to the slaves dilemma.

What about having everything named George Washington stricken from every place in the US? He was a slave holder who exploited them.

Should we throw Ceaser's name out of the window for his atrocities?

If you were not to ever acknowledge a person who made life better for all of humanity but had a few skeletons in their closet then every single memorial must be torn down.


That's not true. Lee detested slavery and was never shy about letting people know it. Example: right after the war a black guy knelt at the communion rail and no one would go up. Lee stood up and knelt right next to the guy.

True, he did fight for a regime that was based in large part upon slavery, but on the other hand the army was invading his state, his home. I might have done the same.
 
2012-10-01 07:35:40 PM  
www.mathathome.org
"Can you tell me how to get, how to get down to Nazi Street.
 
2012-10-01 07:44:51 PM  
FTFA:"Porsche has agreed with the city to rename "Henry Ford II Avenue" to simply "Porsche Avenue," after the corporation, the mayor's spokeswoman tells CL."

So instead of going from a Nazi sympathizer to a Nazi, it goes from a Nazi sympathizer to a stripper?

Well, it is an improvement. Of sorts.
 
2012-10-01 07:57:44 PM  

cman: cman: What about all of those high schools named after General Lee? He was indifferent to the slaves dilemma.

What about having everything named George Washington stricken from every place in the US? He was a slave holder who exploited them.

Should we throw Ceaser's name out of the window for his atrocities?

If you were not to ever acknowledge a person who made life better for all of humanity but had a few skeletons in their closet then every single memorial must be torn down.

To elaborate, we are not talking about Hitler; we are talking about one of the most important men in automotive history.


Who also made highly effective killing machines that happened to be trying to kill us. I don't have a big deal with it, but I understand. There are no Mikhail Kalashnikov Avenues as far as I know
 
2012-10-01 08:02:50 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Henry "the only American to have been awarded the Iron Cross by Adolph Hitler, who quoted him extensively and kept his portrait in his office in Germany" Ford? That Henry Ford?


No, his grandson, Henry Ford II. At least, that's what TFA says.

Because People in power are Stupid: Henry Ford a Nazi and a Republican... but the two are not synonymous, yet.


At the request of President Wilson, Henry senior ran for the US Senate in 1916 as a Democrat; chew on that for a little bit, will you?
 
2012-10-01 08:10:22 PM  

LibertyHiller: At the request of President Wilson, Henry senior ran for the US Senate in 1916 as a Democrat; chew on that for a little bit, will you?


Well, way back in the day Democrats were the backward hicks.

3.bp.blogspot.com

I don't know when did the roles switch.
 
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