BoxOfBees: First, many of the parents who refused vaccinations for their kids are already more educated than the school officials and lawmakers.
jigger: Is public education really under attack? You sure there aren't people simply trying to improve it, but the entrenched interests want to fight any change tooth and nail?
Introitus: To all the uninfrommed people in this thread, the US does not give the BCG vaccine. So pick a different pathogen instead of TB please.
tenpoundsofcheese: But he once again shows his contempt for the people by banning a child from legally having more than 2 parents
tenpoundsofcheese: A child needs a note about why they didnt get a vaccination but the child doesnt need a note about getting an abortion.
PsiChick: /Bad troll, bro, bad troll.
PsiChick: This originally made no sense, even though you're farkied in orange...
mysticcat: Drug company lobbyists are scumbags, but they don't set vaccine schedules, physicians do.
Zarquon's Flat Tire: I wonder at what age a child can request vaccination against their parent's wishes.
CapeFearCadaver: PsiChick: This originally made no sense, even though you're farkied in orange...Why use orange? I love the color orange, it doesn't deserve this sort of abuse.
NkThrasher: I've managed to make a splash with a few friends of ours who were waffling on being antivaxers by declaring that unless their crotchfruit gets vaccinated against whooping cough, I'm not going to spend time with their kid or them, because they are a declared and intentional risk to my health (as previously declared up thread, I'm allergic to that vaccine, so don't have a choice).So far I'm 3/3 on that strategy playing a part on getting a kid to get vaccinated. Although I think I may be a bit more convincing because I can't be vaccinated for it and thus am definitively at risk as opposed to the discussions about possibilities of risk etc.
pciszek: mysticcat: Drug company lobbyists are scumbags, but they don't set vaccine schedules, physicians do.My understanding is that very few vaccines are profitable to manufacture, and pharmaceutical companies have to be pressured into providing them.
Egalitarian: On a darker note, I imagine that in the past, a lot of autistic kids were simply beaten to death.
fuhfuhfuh: tenpoundsofcheese: A child needs a note about why they didnt get a vaccination but the child doesnt need a note about getting an abortion.So abortion is a transmittable disease, much like TB and smallpox. Good to know.
tenpoundsofcheese: common sense is an oxymoron: tenpoundsofcheese: A child needs a note about why they didnt get a vaccination but the child doesnt need a note about getting an abortion.When getting an abortion results in spontaneous miscarriages among innocent passersby, you'll have a valid comparison. Until then, you're ten pounds of derp in a five-pound bag.Given your name, I just assume you are trolling since you obviously missed the point
PsiChick: Synthesia\psychological color associations. Orange is for the people I can't quite classify.
TheDumbBlonde: GAT_00: Unvaccinated children should be banned from public schools. No exceptions.What about undocumented unvaccinated children?
BoxOfBees: First, many of the parents who refused vaccinations for their kids are already more educated than the school officials and lawmakers.Second, many parents who refused vaccinations do so selectively, for the health of their children. Just like you wouldn't give your kid every medication under the son if you thought it was potentially harmful or unnecessary, so some parents treat vaccinations.Third, the difference between the present and times past is that the number of required vaccinations are growing at a high rate. Why? Lack of critical thinking skills on the part of, well, everyone. Also, the power (and by power, I mean money) wielded by drug company lobbyists. You don't even need conspiracy theories to arrive at these conclusions./still thinks vaccines have their benefits and should be used appropriately
BMFPitt: Even if you weren't known to be allergic, there's a chance that the vaccine would be just naturally ineffective. I would never allow anti-vax kids to be around my family, and would encourage others in the same social group to do the same. Them being outcast from civilized society would be a desirable side effect.
tenpoundsofcheese: ddam: tenpoundsofcheese: A child needs a note about why they didnt get a vaccination but the child doesnt need a note about getting an abortion.Do you try to be this stupid every day or do it come naturally?You either believe it is your body and can do what you want or not. Can't have it both ways.
oliass: If vaccinations work so well, why would you have to worry about non-vaccinated kids contaminating vaccinated kids?
jigger: So you do not have a right to attend the public school? You can be restricted from attending.That's the whole point. Seriously, that all it is. Maybe you think it's a simple, stupid point, but I just want people to stop saying that attending public school is a right.
DarkVader: tenpoundsofcheese: A child needs a note about why they didnt get a vaccination but the child doesnt need a note about getting an abortion.Yes. And that is, in fact, completely reasonable.We don't need kids running around unvaccinated.And we don't need kids having babies.
leevis: LessO2: "Governor Moonbeam" seems to be doing a better job than "Governor Adulterer."At least Brown wants to get the financial house in order.He might have a little bit of trouble with that unless he pulls a Scott Walker.
imagonyx123: Magnanimous_J: TheDumbBlonde: What about undocumented unvaccinated children?They come from a country that still struggles with horrifying, yet preventable diseases. I doubt there are many anti-vaxxers in families that have actually watched a grandfather die of the plague.Good point. I live in a Southern Californian city and see many adult immigrants around with withered arms and malformed legs because they did not get vaccinated in their home countries.
CapeFearCadaver: Wait, wait, wait... Who was it who called this in the CA anti-gay therapy bill from yesterday?
Big Man On Campus: Nor did it stop the brain-dead democrat before him from spending tax dollars to pay for consumer electricity bills when we were already running a deficit.
lake_huron: mysticcat:/board certified in allergy and immunologyAs an Infectious Diseases doc who has been on these threads for years, let me say that my credentials, literature reviews, links to the CDC website, PubMed links, and so on, have all gotten me nowhere.
MrEricSir: Big Man On Campus: Nor did it stop the brain-dead democrat before him from spending tax dollars to pay for consumer electricity bills when we were already running a deficit.Hint: the energy deregulation fiasco was created by a Republican.
Benjimin_Dover: tenpoundsofcheese: A child needs a note about why they didnt get a vaccination but the child doesnt need a note about getting an abortion.And they don't need to receive any information on the benefits and risks of it either. Information bad!
TheDumbBlonde: My middle-school aged children are vaccinated to the hilt. Those boys won't be speading HPV or any other damn thing.
Gyrfalcon: DamnYankees: This is like the third headline in 2 days to say "Governor Moonbeam does X" when all he did was sign a bill into law. Do people not think the CA legislature exists?Evidently. Apparently, all Californians do is sit around smoking dope and collecting welfare, when we're not surfing or something.
Indubitably: Bottomline: Vaccinate your kids, herd, or lose immunity...
Because People in power are Stupid: DamnYankees: How does this violate federal law?First amendment rights, yo. The freedom of artistic expression.
ringersol: If you reject science and society to the point that you pass on *vaccinations*, how can you still be Ok with public school?
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