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2012-10-01 09:09:13 AM  
I'm actually looking forward to the next edition of the DSM, which is expected to finally -- finally! -- officially recognize nihilestnefaspermeism. After years upon years of forcing the poor people who often don't even understand the extent to which they suffer from this insidious affliction to live unacknowledged, unsupported, alone (so to speak) in the wilderness, it's about damn time. Have faith, my friends, for the help you did not know you needed is on its way. Soon, I promise.
 
2012-10-01 09:15:32 AM  
I have something similar to a nail biting habit. I don't know if it's a mild mental disorder, or a sign of something more significant in the ways of psychological pathology, but I know I'd probably be happier ifs soas dma s s...sdas s

Oh, sorry, I was just chewing on my fingers again.
 
2012-10-01 09:57:22 AM  
I got over my nail biting by switching to tacks.
 
2012-10-01 10:13:52 AM  
A new version is coming out early next year, and it puts pathological grooming in the same category as another disorder you've probably heard of: obsessive compulsive disorder, or OCD.

What, they never considered this OCD behavior? Really?

/besides, nail biting chips your teeth
//so stop it!
 
2012-10-01 10:29:16 AM  
Yes.

/chronic nail biter
 
2012-10-01 10:47:41 AM  
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2012-10-01 10:50:26 AM  
I'll bite my nails if they get really long, but it's never been a nervous habit, and only on accident have I ever bit off more than I could chew.
 
2012-10-01 10:53:11 AM  
I used to bite my nails. Then I stopped

/this in no way implies that I don't have a mental disorder
 
2012-10-01 11:32:17 AM  
It IS a mental disorder, and wil WILL make a pill for it.

/Ask your doctor if Nailbitinol is right for you.
 
2012-10-01 11:32:38 AM  
When I read this BS, I almost laughed. Nail biting is not a form of OCD; it's a mindless habit and nothing more. I used to bite my nails. I did it for decades. I wanted to stop, so I asked a gay friend, who used to bite his nails (and other things, too!) how he had beaten the habit. He said to simple start getting manicures and I'd stop on either the first or second one. He was correct. It was that simple.
 
2012-10-01 11:37:31 AM  
How about both?
 
2012-10-01 11:37:42 AM  

jaylectricity: I'll bite my nails if they get really long, but it's never been a nervous habit, and only on accident have I ever bit off more than I could chew.


Kinda the same here. I bite my nails because I'm too lazy to use the nail clippers. I only bite them when they get long enough to impede typing, musical instrument playing, or fingering my wife.

Sorry if that last one was TMI.
 
2012-10-01 11:38:52 AM  

JackieRabbit: When I read this BS, I almost laughed. Nail biting is not a form of OCD; it's a mindless habit and nothing more. I used to bite my nails. I did it for decades. I wanted to stop, so I asked a gay friend, who used to bite his nails (and other things, too!) how he had beaten the habit. He said to simple start getting manicures and I'd stop on either the first or second one. He was correct. It was that simple.


Yeah, that's kind of along my line of thinking. Nail biting is a natural way of trimming your nails down. Nail trimmers do not exist in the wilderness. For farks sake, my cats chew on their claws all day long to keep them short.
 
2012-10-01 11:39:09 AM  
Can't it be both?

Like smoking, liking cats, listening to country music, and so on?
 
2012-10-01 11:39:13 AM  

oldernell: I got over my nail biting by switching to tacks.


Must be an Obama supporter. That's their solution to everything - tacks,tacks, tacks.
 
2012-10-01 11:39:26 AM  
I haven't used scissors to trim my nails in about 32 years. well finger nails...I ain't biting my toe nails. I maybe be crazy but I ain't nuts.
 
2012-10-01 11:41:03 AM  
Finger nalis or toe nails?
 
2012-10-01 11:41:44 AM  
My older brother still bites his nails and he's in his forties. A bit weird, but not OCD.

He also chews on the skin around both index fingers and thumbs, and I'm pretty sure he tastes his own ear-wax. He also votes conservative. OCD?
 
2012-10-01 11:42:03 AM  
I have noticed that people who chew their fingernails all the way off, and people who chew their cuticles and the sides of their fingers, are usually pretty farked up. I don't mean like schizophrenia or something, just that they're messed up in some way.

I still bite my fingernails, just not all the way off. I can tell how stressed out I am by how short my nails are. If they're OK--short but even and not ragged--then things are going OK. If I notice that they're getting that chewed-on look, it's because I'm wigging out about something.
 
2012-10-01 11:43:22 AM  
Mine or other people's?
 
2012-10-01 11:44:28 AM  
I do all the the neurotic behaviors described in the article. I bite my nails, I pull hair, and I pick at my skin. It's really not healthy. I can't grow a beard because if I do, then I can't help but fuss at it and pull loose hairs and then it gets all thin and ugly. I have pock marks all over my face because I couldn't help but pick at my acne when I was young.
 
GBB
2012-10-01 11:45:36 AM  
ok, what about biting the skin around the nail?? What's up with that???
 
2012-10-01 11:47:07 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

"If gays are granted rights, next we'll have to give rights to prostitutes and to people who sleep with St. Bernards and to nail biters."

/yes that's right - nail biting is the moral equivalent of bestiality
//nail biter
 
2012-10-01 11:48:48 AM  
Lifelong nail-biter until about 4 years ago. It was bad--the sensation of just ripping away the nail from the bed at the edges was such a rush. I started stimulant medication (for ADHD) and then began carrying a nail clipper with me everywhere I went. Managed to supplant the habit, now I trim my nails like a good boy even though I don't have insurance for meds.
 
2012-10-01 11:50:28 AM  
I think it is both.

I bit my nails starting as a toddler. I eventually ended up with OCD - including behaviors like picking at my skin (I am sooooo lucky it didn't leave scars). OCD is related to illnesses like depression, which I also eventually got. My depression is now under control and being treated -- with a med that is indicated for OCD, but not depression, oddly enough (Luvox). I no longer bite my nails, but I still pick my cuticles like crazy despite the OCD med. So in my case, I definitely think it is a bot of both.

/As a pre-teen, I used a crude behavioral therapy to 'cure' myself of the worst OCD behaviors without realizing I was doing something so "sophisticated.'
//CSB
 
2012-10-01 11:52:00 AM  

GBB: ok, what about biting the skin around the nail?? What's up with that???


can cause hang nail and infections.
 
2012-10-01 11:53:13 AM  
Is it pledge week already?
 
2012-10-01 11:54:14 AM  
What if you bite someone else's nails?
 
2012-10-01 11:55:19 AM  

halotosis: Yeah, that's kind of along my line of thinking. Nail biting is a natural way of trimming your nails down. Nail trimmers do not exist in the wilderness. For farks sake, my cats chew on their claws all day long to keep them short.


Yeah because normally we'd be doing stuff that wears them down. Same with your cats.

Anyway, nail biting is a symptom just like hand washing is a symptom - only when it gets to crazy "my fingers are bleeding but I can't stop" levels.
 
2012-10-01 11:55:19 AM  
It depends upon whose nails one is biting.
 
2012-10-01 11:56:12 AM  
Is this in the same spectrum as deep butt scratching?
 
2012-10-01 11:57:03 AM  
HEY! It's not a disorder, i was born this way
 
2012-10-01 11:58:03 AM  
Only if you can hear your nails scream when you bite them.
 
2012-10-01 11:58:48 AM  

JackieRabbit: When I read this BS, I almost laughed. Nail biting is not a form of OCD; it's a mindless habit and nothing more. I used to bite my nails. I did it for decades. I wanted to stop, so I asked a gay friend, who used to bite his nails (and other things, too!) how he had beaten the habit. He said to simple start getting manicures and I'd stop on either the first or second one. He was correct. It was that simple.


Funny...when I studied a decade ago this was covered....it's is not a disorder in and of itself, but can be a symptom of a conversion disorder.

No way it should be it's own disorder.
 
2012-10-01 11:58:50 AM  
 
2012-10-01 11:59:30 AM  
I bit my nails for a while... and then I stopped. So... ? Huh?

wha?
 
2012-10-01 12:00:28 PM  

ms_lara_croft: What if you bite someone else's nails?


Darn it, you beat me.
But I like the way you think.
 
2012-10-01 12:02:22 PM  
Used to bite my nails in high school and early years of college. Some hottie co-ed in college said it was a bad habit. Quit on the spot.

/Didn't get hottie, still.
 
2012-10-01 12:02:58 PM  
karmaceutical
Is this in the same spectrum as deep butt scratching?

If you are doing this, please wash your hands before biting your nails!
 
2012-10-01 12:03:28 PM  
I used to be a nail biter, but now I'm down to only chewing on them when I have a jagged edge and no file or clippers handy. Nail polish is supposed to help people stop, but all it did for me was make my nails taste weird and coated my teeth in paint chips.
 
2012-10-01 12:04:26 PM  

dericwater: Used to bite my nails in high school and early years of college. Some hottie co-ed in college said it was a bad habit. Quit on the spot.

/Didn't get hottie, still.


It may have helped you get other 'hotties'. So it's all good.
 
2012-10-01 12:05:59 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: I used to be a nail biter, but now I'm down to only chewing on them when I have a jagged edge and no file or clippers handy. Nail polish is supposed to help people stop, but all it did for me was make my nails taste weird and coated my teeth in paintcow chips.


www.lizardjoes.com
 
2012-10-01 12:06:04 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: I bit my nails for a while... and then I stopped. So... ? Huh?

wha?


Yeah, me too. I chewed my nails my as long as I can remember. My mother has photos of me as a toddler chewing my TOE nails. One day about 3 years ago I decided to stop. Not an issue since.
 
2012-10-01 12:07:30 PM  
I bit my nails until I was 21...then I decided to stop. I did stop, cold turkey, for 5 years. I loved manicuring my nails, and kept them very nice. Then I had my daughter, and my lovely manicured nails scratched her very delicate skin...so I bit them off. And I've kept them bit down ever since, because I have neither the time nor the money to manicure my nails anymore. I also twig my hair. Oh, well. No, I don't want my children to do it, but I don't think it's necessarily a learned behavior. My daughter has been twigging her hair since she had the ability to control her hands enough to twig it. As long as it doesn't interfere with everyday life or cause health problems, I don't see the harm.
 
2012-10-01 12:07:58 PM  
Fark has taught me that there no longer are any mental disorders, instead we should accept that people were born this way. Not only should these people have special rights we should also force out children to be like them.
 
2012-10-01 12:09:19 PM  

dryknife: ms_lara_croft: What if you bite someone else's nails?

Darn it, you beat me.
But I like the way you think.


:) It's sorta like "You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friend's nose".
 
2012-10-01 12:09:19 PM  
Does it count if I only bite other people's nails?
 
2012-10-01 12:09:38 PM  

bborchar: I bit my nails until I was 21...then I decided to stop. I did stop, cold turkey, for 5 years. I loved manicuringmasturbating my nails, and kept them very nice. Then I had my daughter, and my lovely manicured nails scratched her very delicate skin...so I bit them off. And I've kept them bit down ever since, because I have neither the time nor the money to manicure my nails anymore. I also twig my hair. Oh, well. No, I don't want my children to do it, but I don't think it's necessarily a learned behavior. My daughter has been twigging her hair since she had the ability to control her hands enough to twig it. As long as it doesn't interfere with everyday life or cause health problems, I don't see the harm.


apostates.weebly.com
 
2012-10-01 12:09:41 PM  
Nail biting
Hair pulling
Ear scratching

anybody got the ear scratching one? I have that effing bad.

Oh, and humming. I don't do that one, but I know a girl who does and I want to strangle her although otherwise she's a nice person.

We should start a support group called Farkers with Neurosis

/fish are friends, not food
 
2012-10-01 12:10:00 PM  

JackieRabbit: When I read this BS, I almost laughed. Nail biting is not a form of OCD; it's a mindless habit and nothing more. I used to bite my nails. I did it for decades. I wanted to stop, so I asked a gay friend, who used to bite his nails (and other things, too!) how he had beaten the habit. He said to simple start getting manicures and I'd stop on either the first or second one. He was correct. It was that simple.


Yeah...but now you're gay.

/I keed!
//good friend of mine is a nailbiter
///definately OCD related in her case
 
2012-10-01 12:11:20 PM  

david_gaithersburg: Fark has taught me that there no longer are any mental disorders, instead we should accept that people were born this way. Not only should these people have special rights we should also force out children to be like them.


I am so outraged by this post. Outraged indeed. You are bad man. Bad person. My outrage is growing by the minute.

/outrage
 
2012-10-01 12:13:54 PM  
No
 
2012-10-01 12:17:43 PM  

Karmacidal: My mother has photos of me as a toddler chewing my TOE nails.


Hahahaha!

On a side note, my sisters dog bites his nails... but he is a completely neurotic pup.
 
2012-10-01 12:18:22 PM  
It's probably both. Every serious nail-biter I have ever met was OCD or clinically anxious/depressed in some manner.

The upside? All of those germs ingested probably build immunity.
 
2012-10-01 12:21:09 PM  
I used to bite my nails like crazy ever since I was a kid. About two years ago I got sick and tired of it and just decided to stop. Haven't done it but maybe a handful ('natch!) of times since. I have no idea how or why I managed to shut it off that easily, but there you go.
 
2012-10-01 12:23:04 PM  

super_grass: It IS a mental disorder, and wil WILL make a pill for it.

/Ask your doctor if Nailbitinol is right for you.


Wheaton? Really?

/wow, that farkin guy does everything!
 
2012-10-01 12:23:06 PM  
Yes, it's a mental disorder. So is being shy. Or outgoing. Or choosing bachelorhood over family life. Or talking too loud, believing in God, preferring one race or gender over another in some aspect of daily life, or habitually tapping one's toes.

To put it simply, there are no normal people.
 
2012-10-01 12:25:03 PM  

The Wizard of Frobozz: jaylectricity: I'll bite my nails if they get really long, but it's never been a nervous habit, and only on accident have I ever bit off more than I could chew.

Kinda the same here. I bite my nails because I'm too lazy to use the nail clippers. I only bite them when they get long enough to impede typing, musical instrument playing, or fingering my wife.

Sorry if that last one was TMI.


I bite my nails and finger your wife, so I'm really getting a kick...
 
2012-10-01 12:25:50 PM  
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Cure you of that problem.
 
2012-10-01 12:26:23 PM  
for all y'all that quit, I just bit all of my nails twice...and a couple cuticles.
 
2012-10-01 12:26:55 PM  

spacelord321: JackieRabbit: When I read this BS, I almost laughed. Nail biting is not a form of OCD; it's a mindless habit and nothing more. I used to bite my nails. I did it for decades. I wanted to stop, so I asked a gay friend, who used to bite his nails (and other things, too!) how he had beaten the habit. He said to simple start getting manicures and I'd stop on either the first or second one. He was correct. It was that simple.

Yeah...but now you're gay.

/I keed!
//good friend of mine is a nailbiter
///definately OCD related in her case


It's only gay if you get the manicure//manscaping/blow job package special from Sven, Lance or Steve. Actually, I don't get a manicure very often, since I don't want to be bothered. Once upon a time, most barber shops had a manicurist, but not any more.
 
2012-10-01 12:26:57 PM  

cgraves67: I do all the the neurotic behaviors described in the article. I bite my nails, I pull hair, and I pick at my skin. It's really not healthy. I can't grow a beard because if I do, then I can't help but fuss at it and pull loose hairs and then it gets all thin and ugly. I have pock marks all over my face because I couldn't help but pick at my acne when I was young.


My son does all this too, the leftover from being raised by a complete psycho who did even worse things (no not me). Yes, my son is neurotic, although he's getting better. But his father not only bit his fingernails, he'd get a razor blade and cut all his cuticles off, cut his callouses off. He picked at his hair, pulled the hair on his arms out, picked and scabs and blemishes until they bled, pulled his eyelbrows out. He wasn't even aware that he did this stuff; he'd go into some sort of zombie state where he wasn't even aware of his surroundings, but still he'd twirl his hair, pick, pick pick at something, get out his razor blade.....and then if you go just a little further, you get into "cutter" territory, and you know that just isn't right.

So if you do these sorts of things, something's wrong. I gradually stopped biting my fingernails, stopped all that shiat, as I got my life together (when I left the psycho, that is.) My kid is gradually stopping his fingernail-chewing and picking at at his skin. But if I run into someone who has those awful, ragged, chewed-off ends of their fingers, I still think, Beware. Because I've never met anyone who did that who wasn't a hot mental mess.
 
2012-10-01 12:27:45 PM  

JackieRabbit: When I read this BS, I almost laughed. Nail biting is not a form of OCD; it's a mindless habit and nothing more. I used to bite my nails. I did it for decades. I wanted to stop, so I asked a gay friend, who used to bite his nails (and other things, too!) how he had beaten the habit. He said to simple start getting manicures and I'd stop on either the first or second one. He was correct. It was that simple.


I think for some it IS OCD. I have various habits that I seem to rotate. Nail biting. Playing with my hair. Pulling my eyelashes. Scratching my ears. It's one of the reasons I don't wear makeup. It'd be yet another thing to pick at. I assume it's all due to my personality. For others, I suspect it's much easier to quit.
 
2012-10-01 12:29:07 PM  

cryinoutloud: So if you do these sorts of things, something's wrong. I gradually stopped biting my fingernails, stopped all that shiat, as I got my life together (when I left the psycho, that is.) My kid is gradually stopping his fingernail-chewing and picking at at his skin. But if I run into someone who has those awful, ragged, chewed-off ends of their fingers, I still think, Beware. Because I've never met anyone who did that who wasn't a hot mental mess.


I think this is mostly true. I think some people are naturally more stressed than others. And then... I think some people are a hot mental mess. So yeah. :)
 
2012-10-01 12:30:20 PM  
So, uh, when do I go down to Uncle Sucker and see how much he's going to pay me for my incurable disease? Maybe it'll be enough for me to quit working so I don't afflict others with my disability. But, if it's only enough so that I can afford a new pair of latex gloves every day, that will be fine. Because I will then spend that on booze and hookers. 'Cause everyone knows that when you are drunk and slobbering over strange wimmen, you are 50% less likely to chew your finger nails.
 
2012-10-01 12:32:27 PM  

Sentient: To put it simply, there are no normal people.


They'll eventually make a drug for that too.
 
2012-10-01 12:32:58 PM  

bborchar: I also twig my hair.


What does "twig hair" mean? you twist it, pull it out, chew on it?

Hermione_Granger: anybody got the ear scratching one? I have that effing bad.


How do you "scratch your ears"? Scratch them inside the hole, inside the shell, behind the ear with a hind leg?
 
2012-10-01 12:33:32 PM  
I bite my nails precisely and trimly, in private, about once every 2-3 weeks because I absolutely cannot stand the feeling of nail clippers on my fingernails. I've been like that ever since I was about 12 or so, and very rarely does anyone ever comment on the appearance of my fingernails. I've got it down to a science.
 
2012-10-01 12:33:57 PM  
I've always wanted to be a mental mess. My art finally as some legitimacy.

/I can't sit still
//but what is the doctor gonna say? take this prescription drug. f*ck that.
 
2012-10-01 12:34:11 PM  
I bit my nails for years, starting as a kid up til about 7 or 8 years ago...and I would chew until they bled...chewed the skin and cuticles too...hated how my hands looked, so I made a New Years resolution to stop and I did....for about 5 years, then started up again...dammit!

/I don't think it's an OCD thing, but yeah, I do have some "issues" that have never been fully resolved, so maybe there's something to it?
 
2012-10-01 12:35:11 PM  
I have OCD and I bite my nails so...I guess I am getting a kick out of this?

/I'm getting better
//I have nails now mostly
///OCD getting worse
 
2012-10-01 12:38:04 PM  

Pocket Ninja: nihilestnefaspermeism


This is already indexed on Google and links back to your comment.

O_O
 
2012-10-01 12:38:13 PM  
Eventually every damn human behavior will be a symptom of some disease or another.

The problem is, even if the DSM has strict diagnostic requirements (for example, biting your nails isn't enough - it has to be obsessive and result in damage or something), that won't stop a commerical at every break on TV from saying "do you bite your nails? You might suffer from chronic nail-biting disorder. Ask your physician about Bite No More" or whatever.

Mental illnesses are real, but so is GlaxoSmithKline's profit motive.
 
2012-10-01 12:39:09 PM  

cryinoutloud: Yes, my son is neurotic, although he's getting better. But his father not only...etc etc



Out of all the guys you could have picked to breed with, you chose that?
 
2012-10-01 12:40:12 PM  
I used to bite my nails when I was a teenager, then one day they tasted bad and I was like "What could that taste be? Think of all the gross stuff that could be beneath your fingernails. Your poop, gross stuff from other people, etc." I immediately stopped and haven't done it since. Gross habit.
 
2012-10-01 12:41:37 PM  
I've always done it and it brings some kind of great internal satisfaction. I tried to quit a couple of times but I found I really hated feeling the ends of the nails being longer than 'bit back to within an inch of their life'. But they certainly would look nicer if they were trimmed short with clippers. It's amazingly hard to quit, and now I have some sympathy for people trying to quit smoking, drugs, soda, fast food or whatever your addiction is.

I don't have any other OCD patterns that I'm aware of, other than a weird paranoid brain block about whether or not I closed the garage door so I end up driving around the block most mornings to check again on my way out. People are funky!

--M
 
2012-10-01 12:43:24 PM  

rocketpants: Pocket Ninja: nihilestnefaspermeism

This is already indexed on Google and links back to your comment.

O_O


yeah, obviously a made up word, which I am guessing references killing sperm via bunk sessions, amirite?
 
2012-10-01 12:43:33 PM  

Walker: I used to bite my nails when I was a teenager, then one day they tasted bad and I was like "What could that taste be? Think of all the gross stuff that could be beneath your fingernails. Your poop, gross stuff from other people, etc." I immediately stopped and haven't done it since. Gross habit.


Your poop? Just how close are you getting your fingers to your poop hole when you wipe? I like to get a huge hand full of toilet paper so my fingers are at least 6 inches away from the business end when I wipe. So what if I have to buy toilet paper every two days?
 
2012-10-01 12:46:06 PM  

WeenerGord: cryinoutloud: Yes, my son is neurotic, although he's getting better. But his father not only...etc etc
Out of all the guys you could have picked to breed with, you chose that?


I paid for it, and I paid dearly. I also learned from my mistakes and fixed my own head. So there is nothing to do now but move on. How about you?

www.luceperformancegroup.com
 
2012-10-01 12:46:19 PM  

Cythraul: Walker: I used to bite my nails when I was a teenager, then one day they tasted bad and I was like "What could that taste be? Think of all the gross stuff that could be beneath your fingernails. Your poop, gross stuff from other people, etc." I immediately stopped and haven't done it since. Gross habit.

Your poop? Just how close are you getting your fingers to your poop hole when you wipe? I like to get a huge hand full of toilet paper so my fingers are at least 6 inches away from the business end when I wipe. So what if I have to buy toilet paper every two days?



You can buy latex gloves by the hundreds to use on your hand when you wipe. then you only have to worry about the asbestos in the talcum on the gloves
 
2012-10-01 12:46:38 PM  

rocketpants: Pocket Ninja: nihilestnefaspermeism

This is already indexed on Google and links back to your comment.

O_O


Wow, that wasn't the case when I googled it earlier this morning. Must have been enough queries for Google to go a lookin' for it.
 
2012-10-01 12:47:11 PM  
When more than 50% of the population is diagnosed with OCD, is it still a disorder? Or is it normal? And all the normal people are then diagnosed as having a mental illness of non-OCD.
 
2012-10-01 12:47:31 PM  

Cythraul: Walker: I used to bite my nails when I was a teenager, then one day they tasted bad and I was like "What could that taste be? Think of all the gross stuff that could be beneath your fingernails. Your poop, gross stuff from other people, etc." I immediately stopped and haven't done it since. Gross habit.

Your poop? Just how close are you getting your fingers to your poop hole when you wipe? I like to get a huge hand full of toilet paper so my fingers are at least 6 inches away from the business end when I wipe. So what if I have to buy toilet paper every two days?


If fold it correctly, you only need one piece. The tough part is keeping the corners sharp, for the detail work.
 
2012-10-01 12:50:43 PM  
When I took Welbutrin, I stopped biting my nails.
 
2012-10-01 12:51:20 PM  
Nail biting is definitely one of those awkwardly rewarding behaviors. Definitely triggers some sense of accomplishment in your brain..followed by horror and shame at how your fingers look. OCD is not really a big thing for me, I don't worry or obsess about much: I am clinically depressed and diagnosed by a doctor, not the internet. I take a low amount of Celexa for the depression that broke me in my 20's, which seems to have fixed those things, but nothing has ever broken the fingernail biting. I may try getting a manicure and see if that can somehow break my habit, nothing else has worked so nothing wrong with trying I guess.
 
2012-10-01 12:51:49 PM  
Just let me know when I can start collecting my government check for it?

// Used to bite nails constantly
/// Stopped to see if I could
//// Started six months later when I decided the Pros > the Cons.
 
2012-10-01 12:52:58 PM  
I bit my nails for years, as long as I can remember. I would bite them as far down as I could.

Finally managed to curtail the biting a few years ago. I bit only my thumbs, then eventually stopped biting. I still bite them to trim them (I have an innate fear of clipping my nails - an irrational fear of having them accidentally ripped off).

One of the neatest things I got out of it was the feeling of my nails being longer than my fingertips. And being able to actually use my fingernails. Scratching is cool!!

I still bite them whenever I am bored, which happens a lot. But I have learned not to bite them down as low as I had in the past. I always leave a little white at the end of the nail.
 
2012-10-01 12:54:26 PM  
Why don't all the nailbiters post images of their nail bitten fingers?

And their twigged hair and ear scratching behaviors. I still don't know what they mean by those last two.
 
2012-10-01 12:54:46 PM  
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If you keep eating your hand, you won't be hungry for lunch.
 
2012-10-01 12:55:10 PM  
Come in with the milk.

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2012-10-01 12:55:37 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: I bite my nails and finger your wife, so I'm really getting a kick...


As you (and I'm sure most farkers) know...she hates the long nails when getting fingered.
 
2012-10-01 12:55:51 PM  

halotosis: JackieRabbit: When I read this BS, I almost laughed. Nail biting is not a form of OCD; it's a mindless habit and nothing more. I used to bite my nails. I did it for decades. I wanted to stop, so I asked a gay friend, who used to bite his nails (and other things, too!) how he had beaten the habit. He said to simple start getting manicures and I'd stop on either the first or second one. He was correct. It was that simple.

Yeah, that's kind of along my line of thinking. Nail biting is a natural way of trimming your nails down. Nail trimmers do not exist in the wilderness. For farks sake, my cats chew on their claws all day long to keep them short.


I can only assume they mean compulsive nail biting, the kind where people chew their fingernails right down to the quick, like meth heads only without the fun of getting high first. OCDers will often wash their hands till they bleed, so I can see OCD nail-biting as being potentially harmful.

Ordinary nail-biters are just annoying.
 
2012-10-01 12:57:27 PM  

brainitch: karmaceutical
Is this in the same spectrum as deep butt scratching?

If you are doing this, please wash your hands before biting your nails!


No no... I don't bite my nails. That is gross.
 
2012-10-01 12:57:28 PM  
I keep my nails bitten down to the quick so I can dig deep into my nose without any damage.
 
2012-10-01 12:57:55 PM  

Aidan: JackieRabbit: When I read this BS, I almost laughed. Nail biting is not a form of OCD; it's a mindless habit and nothing more. I used to bite my nails. I did it for decades. I wanted to stop, so I asked a gay friend, who used to bite his nails (and other things, too!) how he had beaten the habit. He said to simple start getting manicures and I'd stop on either the first or second one. He was correct. It was that simple.

I think for some it IS OCD. I have various habits that I seem to rotate. Nail biting. Playing with my hair. Pulling my eyelashes. Scratching my ears. It's one of the reasons I don't wear makeup. It'd be yet another thing to pick at. I assume it's all due to my personality. For others, I suspect it's much easier to quit.


You are describing neurotic behaviors, but none of them are OCD. OCD by definition is repetitious, ritualistic, conscious behaviors, which if not performed cause distress. I'd be willing to bet that when you do the things you do, you don't even realizing you are doing them most of the time. Pulling of the eyelashes (trichotillomania) is a compulsive behavior, but it does not rise to the standard of OCD, since an OCD victim would also have another element such as there has to be an exact number of lashes or that the lashes have to be plucked at a certain time of day, without fail.
 
2012-10-01 12:59:37 PM  
When I was maybe 6 my mother bought some advertised fluid to paint on my nails to stop nail biting (I don't think I was a bad case but more a victim of advertising).

Anyway it had hot pepper essence in it which was supposed to keep me from sticking my fingers in my mouth. Instead it made me like spicy food.
 
2012-10-01 12:59:47 PM  

JackieRabbit: such as there has to be an exact number of lashes or that the lashes have to be plucked at a certain time of day, without fail.



Time for Wapner
 
2012-10-01 01:00:35 PM  

cgraves67: I do all the the neurotic behaviors described in the article. I bite my nails, I pull hair, and I pick at my skin. It's really not healthy. I can't grow a beard because if I do, then I can't help but fuss at it and pull loose hairs and then it gets all thin and ugly. I have pock marks all over my face because I couldn't help but pick at my acne when I was young.


I'm right there with you. Everything you said applies to me too. I'm 24 and I've yet to break the habits.
 
2012-10-01 01:01:00 PM  
I have a friend that is addicted to chapstick; probably 20 - 30 times per day. I wonder if it is a bad habit or mental disorder? Seems like it could be both fear based and rewarding.
 
2012-10-01 01:02:05 PM  

otto the bull: I keep my nails bitten down to the quick so I can dig deep into my nose without any damage.


How do you get the boogers out without a nail to 'shovel' with?
 
2012-10-01 01:03:02 PM  

GBB: ok, what about biting the skin around the nail?? What's up with that???


For me, I get wicked hangnails for some reason and teeth are the handiest way to deal with it. The hangnails are likely related to other mild skin conditions / irritations I get, which are likely related to some sort semi-latent anxiety disorder(s).

And yes to the nail-biting.
 
2012-10-01 01:03:19 PM  
It's lo-cal, and cheap entertainment. Way cheaper than manicures. Piss off.

Nose picking pretty much rocks too.
 
2012-10-01 01:04:59 PM  
Nail biting is normal behavior in Primates. Most mammals use their incisors to groom, in fact.

Stop pathologizing my mammalian ancestry!
 
2012-10-01 01:09:34 PM  
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2012-10-01 01:11:15 PM  
I use my nails on my left hand to pry things open, pick up tiny screws, etc (cell phone and other small gadgets tech). I used to get my right hand manicured. Now I just bite 'em and sand 'em down with the emery board. She can't tell the difference.
 
2012-10-01 01:12:05 PM  

HairBolus: When I was maybe 6 my mother bought some advertised fluid to paint on my nails to stop nail biting (I don't think I was a bad case but more a victim of advertising).

Anyway it had hot pepper essence in it which was supposed to keep me from sticking my fingers in my mouth. Instead it made me like spicy food.


Ha, the pepper crap. I had a friend down the street when I was growing up who would not stop sucking her thumb... her parents tried the whole spectrum of crap to put on her thumb so she'd stop, nothing worked.

They finally had an orthodontist apply this contraption on the roof of her mouth that had these spikes, like 7-8 of them, downwards from a bar attached right to the top. It was supposed to not be long enough to do damage to her tongue while painful enough to stick her thumb in there.

We were playing one afternoon on her trampoline, she fell face first, the spikes went right into her tongue and a couple of them bent from the pressure from her jaw and so it was stuck in there. I remember hearing my parents a couple days later discussing it saying the mom was pissed because the emergency doctor told her she was a stupid git for putting that contraption in her 6 year old daughter's mouth because of something as silly as thumb sucking.
 
2012-10-01 01:25:25 PM  
I quit biting my nails when a hand started growing in my stomach...
 
2012-10-01 01:27:54 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: HairBolus: When I was maybe 6 my mother bought some advertised fluid to paint on my nails to stop nail biting (I don't think I was a bad case but more a victim of advertising).

Anyway it had hot pepper essence in it which was supposed to keep me from sticking my fingers in my mouth. Instead it made me like spicy food.

Ha, the pepper crap. I had a friend down the street when I was growing up who would not stop sucking her thumb... her parents tried the whole spectrum of crap to put on her thumb so she'd stop, nothing worked.

They finally had an orthodontist apply this contraption on the roof of her mouth that had these spikes, like 7-8 of them, downwards from a bar attached right to the top. It was supposed to not be long enough to do damage to her tongue while painful enough to stick her thumb in there.

We were playing one afternoon on her trampoline, she fell face first, the spikes went right into her tongue and a couple of them bent from the pressure from her jaw and so it was stuck in there. I remember hearing my parents a couple days later discussing it saying the mom was pissed because the emergency doctor told her she was a stupid git for putting that contraption in her 6 year old daughter's mouth because of something as silly as thumb sucking.


Holy crap. Was this orthodontist a former Nazi or something?
 
2012-10-01 01:33:19 PM  

JackieRabbit: When I read this BS, I almost laughed. Nail biting is not a form of OCD; it's a mindless habit and nothing more. I used to bite my nails. I did it for decades. I wanted to stop, so I asked a gay friend, who used to bite his nails (and other things, too!) how he had beaten the habit. He said to simple start getting manicures and I'd stop on either the first or second one. He was correct. It was that simple.


Where's the experimental evidence for your conclusion? Do you have a peer-reviewed journal article on your opinion? Just wondering how much research drew you to this conclusion.
 
2012-10-01 01:38:44 PM  
Used to bite my nails, rarely, if ever do now unless i break one and don't have clippers near.
I do pull out my facial hair, the worst part is I don't even know I am doing it. I'll just look down at my desk or on my shirt and see whiskers there and have no recollection of pulling them out.
 
2012-10-01 01:40:15 PM  

chevydeuce: I bit my nails for years, starting as a kid up til about 7 or 8 years ago...and I would chew until they bled...chewed the skin and cuticles too...hated how my hands looked, so I made a New Years resolution to stop and I did....for about 5 years, then started up again...dammit!

/I don't think it's an OCD thing, but yeah, I do have some "issues" that have never been fully resolved, so maybe there's something to it?


Everyone has some sort of 'issue' that the medical professionals would like you to get help with. All for their bottom line.

/nail biter during stressed times
//some truth to the manicure theory, never bite the nails when they are long
 
2012-10-01 01:44:02 PM  

karmaceutical: We were playing one afternoon on her trampoline, she fell face first, the spikes went right into her tongue and a couple of them bent from the pressure from her jaw and so it was stuck in there. I remember hearing my parents a couple days later discussing it saying the mom was pissed because the emergency doctor told her she was a stupid git for putting that contraption in her 6 year old daughter's mouth because of something as silly as thumb sucking.

Holy crap. Was this orthodontist a former Nazi or something?


He was my orthodontist, too... come to think of it he was a pasty ginger, so soulless more likely.
 
2012-10-01 01:45:44 PM  

DaCaptain19: JackieRabbit: When I read this BS, I almost laughed. Nail biting is not a form of OCD; it's a mindless habit and nothing more. I used to bite my nails. I did it for decades. I wanted to stop, so I asked a gay friend, who used to bite his nails (and other things, too!) how he had beaten the habit. He said to simple start getting manicures and I'd stop on either the first or second one. He was correct. It was that simple.

Where's the experimental evidence for your conclusion? Do you have a peer-reviewed journal article on your opinion? Just wondering how much research drew you to this conclusion.


No and neither does the APA. They have absolutely no basis for lumping nail-biting in with OCD. But then the APA's real purpose is to make everyone a mental/psychiatric patient. They don't get much respect from other medial colleges and association. They do ridiculous things like this every time they update the DSM.
 
2012-10-01 01:47:00 PM  
I'm a nail biter for as long as I can remember. I consider it a job well done when I taste blood. It does suck at times not being able to pick up coins off a well waxed floor. As pointed out by a few of you here I am a head case. but functional I have a job I like and consider a career but the dark clouds of depression are always on the horizon and there are times when I can feel their cold winds blowing in.
 
2012-10-01 01:47:44 PM  

super_grass: It IS a mental disorder, and wil WILL make a pill for it.

/Ask your doctor if Nailbitinol is right for you.


Came here to say "so, big pharma came out with a pill that stops nailbiting?"

/more probably bought out a small pharma that invented it
//side effects include lack of empathy, apathy and so on....
///feel free to add side effects
 
2012-10-01 01:51:46 PM  
I've bit my nails most of my life, but after starting back up on my anti-depressant the last time, I pretty much quit doing it. I've been off the anti-depressant for a while now since things have been more stable, but the nail biting really hasn't started back up. Of course, the worst of it used to happen while doing something passive like watching tv or a movie and I hardly do that anymore, so maybe that's it.

I will make sure I take an extra straw into a movie to chew on, though. I guess I just don't sit still well.
 
2012-10-01 01:51:48 PM  
Nail Biting is a Learned Behaviour.
 
2012-10-01 01:59:23 PM  

letrole: Nail Biting is a Learned Behaviour.


I learned it by watching you, dad! Okay? It was you!
 
2012-10-01 02:01:32 PM  

JackieRabbit: spacelord321: JackieRabbit: When I read this BS, I almost laughed. Nail biting is not a form of OCD; it's a mindless habit and nothing more. I used to bite my nails. I did it for decades. I wanted to stop, so I asked a gay friend, who used to bite his nails (and other things, too!) how he had beaten the habit. He said to simple start getting manicures and I'd stop on either the first or second one. He was correct. It was that simple.

Yeah...but now you're gay.

/I keed!
//good friend of mine is a nailbiter
///definately OCD related in her case

It's only gay if you get the manicure//manscaping/blow job package special from Sven, Lance or Steve. Actually, I don't get a manicure very often, since I don't want to be bothered. Once upon a time, most barber shops had a manicurist, but not any more.


Man, I've been going to the wrong beauty parlors.
 
2012-10-01 02:01:42 PM  
If you feel the need to announce, ON FARK, that you do not have a mental disorder, then you probably have a mental disorder.

/just sayin'
//something about a river in Egypt, protesting too much
///the first step is to admit you have a problem
 
2012-10-01 02:02:50 PM  
This is only the first step towards curing those infernal pillow-biters.
 
2012-10-01 02:03:02 PM  
I bit my nails from the time I was a toddler until I was in my mid-30s. Finally kicked the habit a couple of years ago - interestingly enough, when I started getting in shape and dropped about 50 pounds.

Now I have a different compulsion - staring at my nails all the time to admire how tidy they are.
 
2012-10-01 02:03:29 PM  

JackieRabbit: Pulling of the eyelashes (trichotillomania) is a compulsive behavior, but it does not rise to the standard of OCD, since an OCD victim would also have another element such as there has to be an exact number of lashes or that the lashes have to be plucked at a certain time of day, without fail.


Thank you for not only disproving me with more knowledge of the various terms, but also reassuring me that there are people out there far more farked up than me. :)
 
2012-10-01 02:07:25 PM  

Heamer: I bite my nails precisely and trimly, in private, about once every 2-3 weeks because I absolutely cannot stand the feeling of nail clippers on my fingernails. I've been like that ever since I was about 12 or so, and very rarely does anyone ever comment on the appearance of my fingernails. I've got it down to a science.


Try investing in a pair of manicure scissors.
 
2012-10-01 02:12:00 PM  

HAMMERTOE: This is only the first step towards curing those infernal pillow-biters.


If you would stop banging me so hard, I wouldn't be biting the pillow. Now would I?
 
2012-10-01 02:12:52 PM  

JackieRabbit: No and neither does the APA. They have absolutely no basis for lumping nail-biting in with OCD. But then the APA's real purpose is to make everyone a mental/psychiatric patient. They don't get much respect from other medial colleges and association. They do ridiculous things like this every time they update the DSM.


Several people right here have said that they're neurotic, depressed, or kind of OCD and they bite their nails compulsively. Few of us are perfectly mentally healthy. Most of us keep from sliding off into the area of "totally nuts", but most of us have some issues. Why do you need to be so defensive? Are your nails chewed down to the bone? Found yourself in the DSM a few too many times? If it's not about you, then it's not about you. Let it go.

Or maybe you just don't know the difference between biting your fingernails once in a while, and chewing on the ends of your fingers until they bleed.
 
2012-10-01 02:28:19 PM  
I'm not depressed or OCD...so I will go with neurotic, a tad anxious and super fidgety.
 
2012-10-01 02:53:41 PM  

Nogale: Try investing in a pair of manicure scissors.


I've tried. Anything that involves manipulating a small, metal tool to manicure my fingernails is tactilely unsettling to me. Ironically, I have absolutely no issue with clipping my toenails.
 
2012-10-01 03:08:08 PM  

busy chillin': I'm not depressed or OCD...so I will go with neurotic, a tad anxious and super fidgety.


Super fidgety. I can't even sit still long enough to watch movies or things like that. I'm not as self-destructive as I used to be, but I have to--HAVE TO--exercise. The neurotic and anxious is a given. Thank you, genetics.
 
2012-10-01 03:13:31 PM  

Kellner21: One of the neatest things I got out of it was the feeling of my nails being longer than my fingertips. And being able to actually use my fingernails. Scratching is cool!!


Oddly enough, that's one of the main reasons I bite my nails - to the quick, frequently. The sensation of my nails scratching or scraping on certain surfaces drives me NUTS. Bedsheets are the worst. Just rolling over in bed at night and accidentally scratching a nail on the bedsheet is enough to send me into a full-body myoclonic shudder.
 
2012-10-01 03:29:02 PM  
I stopped biting my nails when I went away to university. A few years ago the Mrs. invited my mother over for Thanksgiving. I bit 4 fingernails down to the quick that day. She's not coming back this Thanksgiving.
 
2012-10-01 03:30:00 PM  

letrole: Nail Biting is a Learned Behaviour.


My 8 year old step-son has a very, very bad nail chewing habit. He cannot go more than a few seconds without chewing his nails/fingers. It is gross. playing soccer? He is out there with his hand in his mouth the whole time. His dad did the same thing, so maybe there really is truth to this.

Tried a nasty nail paint thing, he didn't care. Already had one finger infection because of it. Not sure what to do. Was thinking about making him wear boxing gloves like Strongbad whenever he is at home.
 
2012-10-01 03:30:42 PM  

Heamer: Nogale: Try investing in a pair of manicure scissors.

I've tried. Anything that involves manipulating a small, metal tool to manicure my fingernails is tactilely unsettling to me. Ironically, I have absolutely no issue with clipping my toenails.


An emery board?
 
2012-10-01 03:32:56 PM  

Thunderpipes: letrole: Nail Biting is a Learned Behaviour.

My 8 year old step-son has a very, very bad nail chewing habit. He cannot go more than a few seconds without chewing his nails/fingers. It is gross. playing soccer? He is out there with his hand in his mouth the whole time. His dad did the same thing, so maybe there really is truth to this.

Tried a nasty nail paint thing, he didn't care. Already had one finger infection because of it. Not sure what to do. Was thinking about making him wear boxing gloves like Strongbad whenever he is at home.


My family tried everything. Everything. The bad-tasting nail stuff, manicures, bribes. Nothing worked. You're expending a lot of energy on something that's ultimately not that important. He'll stop when he stops.
 
2012-10-01 03:38:44 PM  
I bit my nails for 34 years. And it wasn't when I was nervous, or anxious, hell I don't even know why I did it. I tried quitting many times, even tried that bad-tasting stuff. Occasionally I'd make it a month or so, but then one would go down and within a day all were gone. I'm talking down to the quick. There was probably some OCD component, because once I started I basically couldn't stop, but I don't have any major OCD issues elsewhere in my life.

Then all of a sudden, I stopped. No reason, wasn't even trying to. I quit biting my fingers, and for about two months I still bit my thumbnails. Now I've been a year without biting any, unless there's a hangnail or something. I simply lost the desire. Weird.
 
2012-10-01 03:48:34 PM  

basemetal: A new version is coming out early next year, and it puts pathological grooming in the same category as another disorder you've probably heard of: obsessive compulsive disorder, or OCD.

What, they never considered this OCD behavior? Really?

/besides, nail biting chips your teeth
//so stop it!


I chewed my nails down to the nub my entire life until I was 28. If there was enough nail there to grab onto, I was chewing it off. Then, one day, after a particularly tough corner, one of my teeth felt a little funny. Sure enough, I had chipped one of my front 4 bottom teeth...

/That is what it took for me to stop, everytime my fingernail touched my teeth (which happened a LOT subconsciously) I would immediately imagine my tooth chipping...and put my hand back down. Now I click and tap my fingernails instead.
 
2012-10-01 03:50:40 PM  
I have been biting my nails since I was 3, apparently I started when my mother made me stop sucking my thumb. Not only do I bite my nails, I do the whole hair pulling and skin picking as well. There have been times that I have made strong deliberate efforts to not bite my nails but inevitably some stressful event will trigger the biting again. Earlier this summer I began taking wellbutrin for ADHD and about two months in looked down at my hands and realized that my nails had grown. I had stopped biting them without even realizing it. I think you can stop biting your nails if you really try, but it's not some silly habit you pick up from watching someone else.

/went off the wellbutrin, nails are gone again
 
2012-10-01 04:24:48 PM  
I'm a picker,

I'm a plucker

A midnight thumb-sucker

/all true, sadly
 
2012-10-01 04:46:25 PM  

flyinghouse99: I have been biting my nails since I was 3, apparently I started when my mother made me stop sucking my thumb. Not only do I bite my nails, I do the whole hair pulling and skin picking as well. There have been times that I have made strong deliberate efforts to not bite my nails but inevitably some stressful event will trigger the biting again. Earlier this summer I began taking wellbutrin for ADHD and about two months in looked down at my hands and realized that my nails had grown. I had stopped biting them without even realizing it. I think you can stop biting your nails if you really try, but it's not some silly habit you pick up from watching someone else.

/went off the wellbutrin, nails are gone again


You're lucky. I went to biting the hair off my arms. But hey, I got nails now. The switch happened when I saw something traumatic.

It is a nervous disorder of sorts. I have ADD (no hyper). Always been nervous and always held stress in.
 
2012-10-01 04:46:34 PM  
The question is whether the habit in question a) causes the performer distress by doing it, and b) whether contemplating stopping it causes equal or more intense distress. Nail-biting, hand washing, hair-pulling, etc., CAN be signs of OCD if they must be performed to relieve a feeling of severe distress or anxiety if they are not performed. In other words, does the nail-biter HAVE to bite his or her nails, because they don't feel "right" or "finished" unless they do, and if the biter tries to stop, does the anxiety or distress become worse the longer he abstains from biting?

If you just chew your nails because it's a thoughtless habit and you never thought one way or another about it--it's not OCD, any more than smoking is indicative of OCD. Bad habits can be broken by thinking about it and consciously redirecting behavior; OCD can't without lots of therapy and sometimes medication. There's a shading from OCD and habit that probably isn't as clear; everyone does something under stress that is compulsive or obsessional. I never bit my nails, they're hard as wood chisels, but I bite my lips instead.

All stuff like this does is freak out parents who see their darling snowflakes biting their nails or chewing their hair so they think HOLY F*CK MY KID IS MENTAL! and run for medication to prevent it.
 
2012-10-01 05:40:44 PM  

cryinoutloud: WeenerGord: cryinoutloud: Yes, my son is neurotic, although he's getting better. But his father not only...etc etc
Out of all the guys you could have picked to breed with, you chose that?

I paid for it, and I paid dearly. I also learned from my mistakes and fixed my own head. So there is nothing to do now but move on. How about you?

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I love that pic.

LOL
 
2012-10-01 06:39:33 PM  

GBB: ok, what about biting the skin around the nail?? What's up with that???


It toughens the skin up and aids in the prevention of paper cuts. It's a useful thing to do when you work with thousands of large sheets of paper daily. I also use my teeth to trim the nails because it works better than nail clippers. It also aids in getting my daily dose of crud to give my immune system something to do instead of going after the joints.
 
2012-10-01 07:59:06 PM  
*knock knock knock* Drew? *knock knock knock* Drew? *knock knock knock* Drew?

Nail biting sucks. But as a person with OCD, the act of nail biting is usually just the tip of the iceberg for someone with the disorder. The underlying reason for nail biting is what designates whether a person is suffering from OCD or not.
 
2012-10-01 07:59:34 PM  

basemetal: /besides, nail biting chips your teeth


Be sure not to eat any food either!
 
GBB
2012-10-01 08:06:37 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: GBB: ok, what about biting the skin around the nail?? What's up with that???

It toughens the skin up and aids in the prevention of paper cuts. It's a useful thing to do when you work with thousands of large sheets of paper daily. I also use my teeth to trim the nails because it works better than nail clippers. It also aids in getting my daily dose of crud to give my immune system something to do instead of going after the joints.


i.ytimg.com
See good in bad. I like.
 
2012-10-01 08:16:15 PM  

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: basemetal: A new version is coming out early next year, and it puts pathological grooming in the same category as another disorder you've probably heard of: obsessive compulsive disorder, or OCD.

What, they never considered this OCD behavior? Really?

/besides, nail biting chips your teeth
//so stop it!

I chewed my nails down to the nub my entire life until I was 28. If there was enough nail there to grab onto, I was chewing it off. Then, one day, after a particularly tough corner, one of my teeth felt a little funny. Sure enough, I had chipped one of my front 4 bottom teeth...

/That is what it took for me to stop, everytime my fingernail touched my teeth (which happened a LOT subconsciously) I would immediately imagine my tooth chipping...and put my hand back down. Now I click and tap my fingernails instead.


Not only did I bite my nails, I open everything with my teeth, or used to. From plastic bags to those damn DVD cases, even used to open cans of Coke or beer with my two front teeth, since I had no nails to do it. I still chew ice. Never chipped a tooth or even had a cavity.
 
2012-10-01 08:29:35 PM  

Coastalgrl: chevydeuce: I bit my nails for years, starting as a kid up til about 7 or 8 years ago...and I would chew until they bled...chewed the skin and cuticles too...hated how my hands looked, so I made a New Years resolution to stop and I did....for about 5 years, then started up again...dammit!

/I don't think it's an OCD thing, but yeah, I do have some "issues" that have never been fully resolved, so maybe there's something to it?

Everyone has some sort of 'issue' that the medical professionals would like you to get help with. All for their bottom line.

/nail biter during stressed times
//some truth to the manicure theory, never bite the nails when they are long


In a way. Some of directly profit driven, some are just carried along by the system. When medicine is a business you have to bill for time spent, in order to do that you have to classify it, in order to classify it, it has to be a diagnoses. Once it is a diagnoses (ICD-9 code) now you've made a disease out of something that you just needed a name for to get reimbursed. Now everyone thinks whatever it is that you've medicalized is a disease and people should feel sorry for them or they should take a pill for it. Medicine being a business is a bad idea and farked up.
 
2012-10-01 09:23:45 PM  
I'm going to go with, bad habit.

/ nom nom nom.
// guess this would be a good time to go RTFA. :)
 
2012-10-01 09:34:52 PM  
FTFA: "You can go to the place of giving kids information. Like, 'Oh, I see you biting your nails. Mommy bites her nails, too. You know why we shouldn't bite our nails? Because there are germs that live under our nails,' " explains Foose.


Oh sure, that's a brilliant thing to tell a kid with an already-elevated risk of OCD.

/getthemoutgetthemoutgetthemout
 
2012-10-01 10:14:19 PM  
I'm 53 and I've been biting my nails most of my life. I've also suffered from depression and anxiety for much of my life. What stops me from biting is getting regular manicures, especially using "gel" nail polish which is thick and long lasting. If I haven't had a manicure in a while and I'm anxious/depressed, I will start trimming down nails by biting them. I hate how my nails look but keep picking at my nails until I go in for another manicure. Then the cycle repeats itself.

When I went through an acute depresssive episode which resulted in a serious suicide attempt last summer(prescription drug overdose), I recall a few days before the episode, the worst weekend of my life, I couldn't stop chewing my nails down resulting in my fingers really hurting. Somehow in the middle of this episode I managed to get manicure so I would stop the biting and stop my fingers from hurting even more. Thus I know my nail biting is related to depression/anxiety. The more severely I bite my nails, the more depressed and anxious I feel. I'm much better now than I was last summer. Nail biting is not as extreme.
 
2012-10-01 11:32:14 PM  
I used to do that as a kid. I cured the problem later by wrapping the end of each finger in a bandaid for a few days. Works great for protecting your fingers from papercuts when filing, too!
 
2012-10-01 11:39:26 PM  
mankind is plagued with mental disorders. many of them are socially acceptable so you doosh bags try to force them on to others.

years of water, ground and air pollution and impurities in our food and drink has led to even more problems, many still undiagnosed.

people choose to chase false gods, power and possessions over concern for their own health and well being. stupid savage race. the sooner this planet burns to a cinder the sooner i will go laughing to my grave.
 
2012-10-02 09:01:14 AM  

KrispyKritter: mankind is plagued with mental disorders. many of them are socially acceptable so you doosh bags try to force them on to others.

years of water, ground and air pollution and impurities in our food and drink has led to even more problems, many still undiagnosed.

people choose to chase false gods, power and possessions over concern for their own health and well being. stupid savage race. the sooner this planet burns to a cinder the sooner i will go laughing to my grave.


Were you drinking last night, too?
 
2012-10-02 11:16:23 AM  

CruJones: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: basemetal: A new version is coming out early next year, and it puts pathological grooming in the same category as another disorder you've probably heard of: obsessive compulsive disorder, or OCD.

What, they never considered this OCD behavior? Really?

/besides, nail biting chips your teeth
//so stop it!

I chewed my nails down to the nub my entire life until I was 28. If there was enough nail there to grab onto, I was chewing it off. Then, one day, after a particularly tough corner, one of my teeth felt a little funny. Sure enough, I had chipped one of my front 4 bottom teeth...

/That is what it took for me to stop, everytime my fingernail touched my teeth (which happened a LOT subconsciously) I would immediately imagine my tooth chipping...and put my hand back down. Now I click and tap my fingernails instead.

Not only did I bite my nails, I open everything with my teeth, or used to. From plastic bags to those damn DVD cases, even used to open cans of Coke or beer with my two front teeth, since I had no nails to do it. I still chew ice. Never chipped a tooth or even had a cavity.


I too had never had a cavity or chipped a tooth until one day..."hmmm, why does that tooth feel sharp against my tongue?" I also used to use my teeth to open cans in some cases, now I just look aorund for something small/thin (like a farker's penis) to open it...plus I have nails every 2 weeks.

/Still no cavities, even after a 7 year hiatus from the dentist while in college.
 
2012-10-02 11:56:40 AM  

CruJones: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: basemetal: A new version is coming out early next year, and it puts pathological grooming in the same category as another disorder you've probably heard of: obsessive compulsive disorder, or OCD.

What, they never considered this OCD behavior? Really?

/besides, nail biting chips your teeth
//so stop it!

I chewed my nails down to the nub my entire life until I was 28. If there was enough nail there to grab onto, I was chewing it off. Then, one day, after a particularly tough corner, one of my teeth felt a little funny. Sure enough, I had chipped one of my front 4 bottom teeth...

/That is what it took for me to stop, everytime my fingernail touched my teeth (which happened a LOT subconsciously) I would immediately imagine my tooth chipping...and put my hand back down. Now I click and tap my fingernails instead.

Not only did I bite my nails, I open everything with my teeth, or used to. From plastic bags to those damn DVD cases, even used to open cans of Coke or beer with my two front teeth, since I had no nails to do it. I still chew ice. Never chipped a tooth or even had a cavity.


Time is on the side of my statement.......
 
2012-10-02 09:04:09 PM  
I stopped biting my nails when my older brother graduated from high school. I trimmed all my nails perfectly, and put on nail polish. I had a bit of a habit for a while with grooming my nails a lot (clipping my nails often, using nail polish and re-applying all the time), but I don't do that anymore. Then my nails really grew fast when I was playing piano more and typing a lot. These days, I'm a sysadmin, so I'm so busy that I don't clip my nails often. I'll only clip them when I get annoyed that my typing is impeded.

I used to have the habit of biting the skin right beside the nail on my biggest toe. Don't know WTF was up with that. I think I stopped when I was 18 or so.

Also used to bite the hair on my arms. Don't know when that stopped, either. Probably when I was in my early 20's.

I do pick my skin though. Usually it's normal grooming, but occasionally it's "aaaaaaaahhh KILL IT AND BEGONE" with something on my back that is torturing me (especially if it's rubbing a bra strap or hook). On rare occasion I'll get overzealous and take a long time to use a sewing needle to flick out the teensiest imperfections (that are technically there, but no one else would ever notice, even if they were uncovered). At least that will only leave my skin slightly red for an hour, no damage.

I hate this general habit, though. I often scratch at my back without even realising it. I think that is the worst part of it because it's something you can feel, but not see - it's easy to do damage when there is little control involved. And I only have a mild case of acne on my back (sometimes it flares up to moderate in summer).

I wonder how many people have bad skin on their back (bad enough that they worry about it some). When I'm at the pool, I almost never see anyone else with acne on their back - at all, it seems! Makes you wonder if the percentage of adults affected is really low, or if it's a lot higher than you think, and they're just not showing up to the pool. Would love to know what the % of people is.
 
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