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(NYPost)   In the battle to lower debate expectations, the DNC wants you to know that the charming and super intelligent Mitt Romney is going to destroy the stumbling, bumbling, moron in chief, Barack Obama at the first debate   (nypost.com) divider line 85
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2012-10-01 09:26:19 AM
I was just checking Unskewed Polls and Obama is down over 7 points. He better hope this debater is a game changer.
 
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2012-10-01 09:40:29 AM
Obamas getting his arse kicked in the lowering expectations game.
 
2012-10-01 09:50:04 AM

vpb: Obamas getting his arse kicked in the lowering expectations game.


I have to agree. I was mildly confident that Obama would do well. After reading the stuff released by the Romney campaign, I am now convinced Obama will destroy him.

Also, when the Obama campaign was talking about how strong Romney was at debating they didn't come off as very sincere.
 
2012-10-01 09:54:22 AM
*rtfa*

Those are all valid points. What's Romney been doing outside of raking in dough for the campaign? While Obama's been doing things like running the executive branch, dealing with Israel/Afghanistan/Iraq/etc, f*cking with Congress over taxes/economy/etc, and so forth.

mrshowrules: Also, when the Obama campaign was talking about how strong Romney was at debating they didn't come off as very sincere.


Probably. But I can understand how Obama actually, ya know, HAVING A JOB TO DO would cut down on his time to practice for the debates.
 
2012-10-01 09:54:33 AM

mrshowrules: I was just checking Unskewed Polls and Obama is down over 7 points. He better hope this debater is a game changer.


I want the guy from unskewed polls to start making bathroom scales.
 
2012-10-01 10:00:15 AM

thismomentinblackhistory: mrshowrules: I was just checking Unskewed Polls and Obama is down over 7 points. He better hope this debater is a game changer.

I want the guy from unskewed polls to start making bathroom scales.


Measuring tape for the bedroom would also be awesome. I could finally prove to my wife how lucky she is.
 
2012-10-01 10:18:56 AM

mrshowrules: thismomentinblackhistory: mrshowrules: I was just checking Unskewed Polls and Obama is down over 7 points. He better hope this debater is a game changer.

I want the guy from unskewed polls to start making bathroom scales.

Measuring tape for the bedroom would also be awesome. I could finally prove to my wife how lucky she is.


I had them look at my mortgage and now I own most of the North Side of Chicago.
 
2012-10-01 10:29:58 AM
My dad always told me: "Son, the secret to success is low expectations. I'm proud of you."
 
2012-10-01 10:46:39 AM

Tigger: mrshowrules: thismomentinblackhistory: mrshowrules: I was just checking Unskewed Polls and Obama is down over 7 points. He better hope this debater is a game changer.

I want the guy from unskewed polls to start making bathroom scales.

Measuring tape for the bedroom would also be awesome. I could finally prove to my wife how lucky she is.

I had them look at my mortgage and now I own most of the North Side of Chicago.


So... the Romney campaign hired Countrywide originators. Now it makes sense. o_o
 
2012-10-01 10:49:08 AM

Tigger: mrshowrules: thismomentinblackhistory: mrshowrules: I was just checking Unskewed Polls and Obama is down over 7 points. He better hope this debater is a game changer.

I want the guy from unskewed polls to start making bathroom scales.

Measuring tape for the bedroom would also be awesome. I could finally prove to my wife how lucky she is.

I had them look at my mortgage and now I own most of the North Side of Chicago.


They examined Mitt's tax returns and found that not only did he pay a 39.6% tax rate every year since 1863, in 2009, the IRS actually paid HIM to repatriate some cash. Kind of a "thanks for being so awesome" dividend.

// which Mitt put into his IRA, now worth eighteen brazillion times the Earth's GDP
 
2012-10-01 10:49:35 AM
Both want it to appear that they did better than expected....
 
2012-10-01 10:51:42 AM

This Is Bold Text: My dad always told me: "Son, the secret to success is low expectations. I'm proud of you."


Bold and his dad?

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2012-10-01 10:52:10 AM

thismomentinblackhistory: mrshowrules: I was just checking Unskewed Polls and Obama is down over 7 points. He better hope this debater is a game changer.

I want the guy from unskewed polls to start making bathroom scales.


Scales that tilt to the right make you heavier, not lighter.
 
2012-10-01 10:53:10 AM

Citrate1007: Both want it to appear that they did better than expected....


I wish they would try that in sports like pro wrestling.
 
2012-10-01 10:54:44 AM

mrshowrules: when the Obama campaign was talking about how strong Romney was at debating they didn't come off as very sincere.


Remember that episode of The Simpsons where Homer's half-brother hires him to design a car, and then makes the engineer he's working with call him back and say the exact opposite of all his negative comments?
 
2012-10-01 10:56:34 AM
Romney has been so successful at lowering expectations he doesn't even need to show up to win.
 
2012-10-01 10:57:48 AM

Citrate1007: Both want it to appear that they did better than expected....


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2012-10-01 10:57:59 AM
But I have it on good authority(1) that Obama is incapable of speaking without a teleprompter.

1. I read it in some sort of cometary from some anonymous source and so it must be true.
 
2012-10-01 10:59:06 AM
It seems that the lowered debate expectations have gotten more cynical ever since the media fawned over Sarah Palin's mastery of not falling down and correctly pronouncing her own name in 2008.
 
2012-10-01 10:59:32 AM

Cletus C.: Romney has been so successful at lowering expectations he doesn't even need to show up to win.


Well, I do agree that he will probably do better if he doesn't show up than if he is there to dig his own grave.

"It's better to be silent and considered a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
 
2012-10-01 11:00:24 AM
What debate? Obama and Romney agree 99% on 99% of the issues.

Oh, and hey Romney, stop saying that you'll "fix" the housing market... the crash WAS the fix, the problem was the bubble. You just want to re-inflate the bubble, and we don't need to go thru that mess again.
 
2012-10-01 11:01:36 AM
"Mitt Romney has had a lot more time to debate, the president has not debated in the past four years in terms, of a campaign debate. I think the president will hold his own, but he's not known for sound bites. And these are 60 second, 90 second responses."

You gotta be farkin shiatin me. I can out debate Romney and I've never been in an actual debate. It's incredibly simple, you only need two things:

1) Facts.
2) To actually believe in the things you are saying.

Romney does not have either of these two things going for him and it will be incredibly obvious. If Obama doesn't blow him out of the water I'll consider it a complete failure.
 
2012-10-01 11:02:39 AM
So how much spray tan is Mitt going to use for this appearance?
 
2012-10-01 11:04:36 AM

HotWingConspiracy: So how much spray tan is Mitt going to use for this appearance?


It's not spray tan. His skin naturally changes to blend in with whatever crowd he is in front of.
 
2012-10-01 11:04:53 AM
 
2012-10-01 11:05:09 AM
As long as Obama sticks to the topic of healthcare reform, immigration reform, the booming economy, the success of the middle class, the recovering housing market, the taxpayer-funded bailouts the White House pet, he'll be fine.
 
2012-10-01 11:06:30 AM
"My candidate is so stupid he thinks he's judging a hot dog eating competition."

"Well my candidate is so stupid he's going to sit in the audience thinking he's there to see a WWE pay-per-view match."

"Oh yeah well my candidate plans to cut his own hair with his eyes closed 5 minutes before it starts."

"Well MY candidate plans to dress himself in trash he finds in the dumpster."
 
2012-10-01 11:06:48 AM

DrPainMD: What debate? Obama and Romney agree 99% on 99% of the issues.

Oh, and hey Romney, stop saying that you'll "fix" the housing market... the crash WAS the fix, the problem was the bubble. You just want to re-inflate the bubble, and we don't need to go thru that mess again.


I disagree. Romney doesn't even agree with himself on 99% of the issues. Or 50%.
 
2012-10-01 11:06:57 AM

lennavan: If Obama doesn't blow him out of the water I'll consider it a complete failure.


Don't get your hopes up. In or out of the water, I doubt that Obama will blow Romney. It just ain't gonna happen.
 
2012-10-01 11:08:29 AM
Did anyone scan the statement for sarcasm?
 
2012-10-01 11:08:31 AM

odinsposse: HotWingConspiracy: So how much spray tan is Mitt going to use for this appearance?

It's not spray tan. His skin naturally changes to blend in with whatever crowd he is in front of.


Precisely why you'll never see him in front of a plaid backdrop.
 
2012-10-01 11:09:04 AM

HotWingConspiracy: So how much spray tan is Mitt going to use for this appearance?


Let me put it this way: it will make the Annoying Orange turn red with envy.
 
2012-10-01 11:10:07 AM
I expect Romney to perfectly articulate how increasing his taxes from an effective 14% to an effective 17% will stifle his job creating abilities.
 
2012-10-01 11:11:17 AM

HotWingConspiracy: So how much spray tan is Mitt going to use for this appearance?


I've always assumed this was a result of a disgruntled gay/brown cosmetician that they hired which had a good sense of humour.
 
2012-10-01 11:12:58 AM

lennavan: You gotta be farkin shiatin me. I can out debate Romney and I've never been in an actual debate. It's incredibly simple, you only need two things:

1) Facts.
2) To actually appear to believe in the things you are saying.

Romney does not have either of these two things going for him and it will be incredibly obvious. If Obama doesn't blow him out of the water I'll consider it a complete failure.


FTFY.

People view assertiveness as equivalent to capability, and as long as Romney goes full court retard, Obama will be in a losing position. That's why Romney's been working on zingers; a 'clever' quip about how Obama wants to eliminate work for welfare will be called memorable and assertive while Obama's five minute ass reaming detailing exactly how that's wrong is called boring and wishy washy.

Never underestimate the stupidity of the American public, especially when we're talking about them having the patience to listen to factual policy arguments.
 
2012-10-01 11:13:44 AM

Rapmaster2000: It seems that the lowered debate expectations have gotten more cynical ever since the media fawned over Sarah Palin's mastery of not falling down and correctly pronouncing her own name in 2008.



I'm looking forward to the biased left-wing media allowing Romney to answer his own questions rather than the ones the moderators pose.
 
2012-10-01 11:13:51 AM

mrshowrules: I was just checking Unskewed Polls and Obama is down over 7 points. He better hope this debater is a game changer.


I can't wait for Unskewed Election Results, when a losing Mitt Romney comes away with 380 votes.
 
2012-10-01 11:16:47 AM
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2012-10-01 11:21:14 AM

canyoneer: Transportation planners say there will be delays when Interstate 25 traffic is stopped in both directions during the presidential debate next week, but those who drive the stretch near the University of Denver everyday are expecting an unmitigated mess.

"It's going to be a complete disaster," said Angela Reed, who drives I-25 daily. "Seriously, it'll be a total mess no matter what they say."

The major north-south artery through Denver will be closed from 5 to 10 p.m. between Santa Fe Drive and Hampden Avenue while President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney debate at the Magness Arena on Wednesday.


Oh, well, then, there shouldn't be any debates.

/Which is the only way Romney can win, of course.
 
2012-10-01 11:24:16 AM

lennavan: If Obama doesn't blow him out of the water I'll consider it a complete failure.


People lose so much perspective on these "debates."

They're not debates, they're essential Q&As with a follow up question. All you have to do is stick to your talking points. And because no one is ever grilled, you can get away with saying factually incorrect things.
 
2012-10-01 11:32:06 AM

sprawl15: Never underestimate the stupidity of the American public, especially when we're talking about them having the patience to listen to factual policy arguments


here's part of what Jimmy Carter said right before the famous "There you go again" zinger that everyone remebers as so super awesome and cool...

Governor Reagan, as a matter of fact, began his political career campaigning around this nation against Medicare. Now, we have an opportunity to move toward national health insurance, with an emphasis on the prevention of disease, an emphasis on out-patient care, not in-patient care; an emphasis on hospital cost containment to hold down the cost of hospital care far those who are ill, an emphasis on catastrophic health insurance, so that if a family is threatened with being wiped out economically because of a very high medical bill, then the insurance would help pay for it. These are the kinds of elements of a national health insurance, important to the American people. Governor Reagan, again, typically is against such a proposal.
 
2012-10-01 11:32:08 AM

ghare: Oh, well, then, there shouldn't be any debates. /Which is the only way Romney can win, of course.


Why have any debate between these two corporate stooges? it's all predigested pap - you've heard it all before - and little will change depending on which leech wins this highly-scripted, self-serving two-party show biz. I imagine they'll both brag about how they have the best ideas for fixing the economy, while their debate damages the economy of metropolitan Denver. As CDOT has said, "Please remember that all closures, dates and times are subject to change and delays are to be expected throughout the system." That means commerce and trade will be hampered throughout the Front Range for a full day, simply for a dog and pony show put on to hoodwink the rubes. It's absurd, really. Especially considering that presidents are becoming ever-more irrelevant by the day. We could put an old fencepost in the Oval Office, and very little would change, except maybe we'd save a lot of money on jet fuel for Air Force One.
 
2012-10-01 11:32:15 AM

canyoneer: Transportation planners say there will be delays when Interstate 25 traffic is stopped in both directions during the presidential debate next week, but those who drive the stretch near the University of Denver everyday are expecting an unmitigated mess.

"It's going to be a complete disaster," said Angela Reed, who drives I-25 daily. "Seriously, it'll be a total mess no matter what they say."

The major north-south artery through Denver will be closed from 5 to 10 p.m. between Santa Fe Drive and Hampden Avenue while President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney debate at the Magness Arena on Wednesday.


Holy shiat. FIVE hours, during rush hour, on a Wednesday. Brilliant. We may see a leap in 3rd party votes in CO.
 
2012-10-01 11:32:50 AM
I wonder if Romney will have specific policy ideas.
 
2012-10-01 11:34:06 AM

DubyaHater: As long as Obama sticks to the topic of healthcare reform, immigration reform, the booming economy, the success of the middle class, the recovering housing market, the taxpayer-funded bailouts the White House pet, he'll be fine.


Let's see, healthcare reform is an easy one:

Mitt: "Obamacare sucks!"
Obama: "Is that why you passed it in Massachusetts?"


Immigration reform:

Mitt: "OMG DREAM Act!"
Obama: "I've sent more people back over the border since 2009 than my predecessor did in 8 years. I had to do something to keep some of them here so they can tend your lawn, Mitt."


The economy:

Mitt: "The economy is in shambles!"
Obama: "We've had record gains in the DJ and GDP under my watch, and you, Mr. Romney, have made untold millions of dollars in the past 4 years. So, either you've profited from other people's misfortune and are therefore vulture capitalist scum, or the economy is doing fine. Which is it, Mitt?"


The middle class:

Mitt: "The middle class is struggling!"
Obama: "How much did you spend on dresses for your horse that you then claimed tax deductions for?"


The bailouts:

Mitt: "Taxpayer funded bailouts!"
Obama: "Remember how you 'saved' Bain? Yeah, you did that with bailout money." 


The pet:

Mitt: "What the heck kind of dog is a Portugese water dog anyway?"
Obama: "One that doesn't go on top of the car." 

Got nothin for the housing market, sorry.
 
2012-10-01 11:34:42 AM

thornhill: lennavan: If Obama doesn't blow him out of the water I'll consider it a complete failure.

People lose so much perspective on these "debates."

They're not debates, they're essential Q&As with a follow up question. All you have to do is stick to your talking points. And because no one is ever grilled, you can get away with saying factually incorrect things.


Right. This isn't exactly Lincoln/Douglas here. The crowds aren't supposed to react, the debate committee gives each campaign the specifc topics beforehand, etc. It's basically a press conference in which you respond with prepared statements while your opponent stands/sits next to you with his/her own prepared statements ready to go.

I'm betting the TV ratings are record lows too. The number of undecided voters at this point are extremely low, Obama's a known quantity, and few people like Romney...including those planning to vote for him. I'm about as big of a politics junkie as you can get, and I'm not even looking forward to them. The scripted nature makes the chance of some huge moment almost nil and I've heard all there is to hear from both candidates.

/I'll still watch though, god help me
 
2012-10-01 11:38:37 AM

Teufelaffe: DubyaHater: As long as Obama sticks to the topic of healthcare reform, immigration reform, the booming economy, the success of the middle class, the recovering housing market, the taxpayer-funded bailouts the White House pet, he'll be fine.

Let's see, healthcare reform is an easy one:

Mitt: "Obamacare sucks!"
Obama: "Is that why you passed it in Massachusetts?"


Immigration reform:

Mitt: "OMG DREAM Act!"
Obama: "I've sent more people back over the border since 2009 than my predecessor did in 8 years. I had to do something to keep some of them here so they can tend your lawn, Mitt."


The economy:

Mitt: "The economy is in shambles!"
Obama: "We've had record gains in the DJ and GDP under my watch, and you, Mr. Romney, have made untold millions of dollars in the past 4 years. So, either you've profited from other people's misfortune and are therefore vulture capitalist scum, or the economy is doing fine. Which is it, Mitt?"


The middle class:

Mitt: "The middle class is struggling!"
Obama: "How much did you spend on dresses for your horse that you then claimed tax deductions for?"


The bailouts:

Mitt: "Taxpayer funded bailouts!"
Obama: "Remember how you 'saved' Bain? Yeah, you did that with bailout money." 


The pet:

Mitt: "What the heck kind of dog is a Portugese water dog anyway?"
Obama: "One that doesn't go on top of the car." 

Got nothin for the housing market, sorry.


The housing market is slowly recovering, but lending is still difficult. This one will be a tie.
 
2012-10-01 11:41:21 AM
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2012-10-01 11:45:50 AM

Teufelaffe: Got nothin for the housing market, sorry.


"Of course Mitt's bummed about the housing market. Whereas dropping prices affect most people because their homes are their largest investment, Mitt's having to sort through tens - hundreds, even - of contractor bids to add a second car elevator to his fourth house."
 
2012-10-01 11:46:43 AM

Shrugging Atlas: thornhill: lennavan: If Obama doesn't blow him out of the water I'll consider it a complete failure.

People lose so much perspective on these "debates."

They're not debates, they're essential Q&As with a follow up question. All you have to do is stick to your talking points. And because no one is ever grilled, you can get away with saying factually incorrect things.

Right. This isn't exactly Lincoln/Douglas here. The crowds aren't supposed to react, the debate committee gives each campaign the specifc topics beforehand, etc. It's basically a press conference in which you respond with prepared statements while your opponent stands/sits next to you with his/her own prepared statements ready to go.

I'm betting the TV ratings are record lows too. The number of undecided voters at this point are extremely low, Obama's a known quantity, and few people like Romney...including those planning to vote for him. I'm about as big of a politics junkie as you can get, and I'm not even looking forward to them. The scripted nature makes the chance of some huge moment almost nil and I've heard all there is to hear from both candidates.

/I'll still watch though, god help me


I watched 60 minutes a few weeks ago when Obama and Romney were on there. Obama was same old - you could almost see the 60 minutes interviewer getting agitated because Obama didn't change tack at all - his direction is so steady it's kind of boring. Romney was mildly interesting only because he's all over the place and had no real answers other than 'we're going to fix loopholes in the tax code'. Yeah right, Mittens.

This is what you're going to see in the debate. Obama staying the course with answers about policy while giving viewers a choice, Romney trying different strategies to attack Obama with zingers. In the end, it'll be a fairly neutral outcome and Obama won't give anything away in the debate - Obama keeps things civil, I've never seen him riled up in a debate. Obama's debate style is slight jabs and dodging punches. Romney's is taking big swings and missing while getting repeatedly punched. He might get in a punch or two, but Obama will easily win a 12th round decision.

Things don't get interesting. You'll expect the debate where people ask questions to get interesting. It's not going to, it's all pre-scripted. I'm telling you, the debates in this country are less debates and more like stump speeches.
 
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