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(Today)   20 surprisingly healthy foods at restaurants. Yeah, Long John Silvers' chocolate pie is on there. Maybe the author doesn't know what healthy means   (todayhealth.today.com) divider line 164
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2012-10-01 11:31:24 PM

PallMall: jaylectricity: PallMall: Actually, I'm well in to my 30's and have been pretty hard on myself.

I don't care how old you are. I didn't say anything about how long you've been alive.

I bet you care about that cheeseburger though, don't you?


I don't even like cheese. Where the hell are you coming up with this garbage?
 
2012-10-01 11:35:31 PM

Clutch2013: So...I've just depressed myself a little more. Consulted my Lose It app on my phone...and apparently, some of my healthier choices of food have sodium levels out the ass. A six inch Subway melt - which, at about 370 calories, kicks a Baconator's ass and takes it's lunch money - had about 1100mg.


Don't get too down. If you're working on it, that's a PLUS.... just the "melt" part about your Subway sandwich irks me... cut out the cheese. Damn dude, just buy one of those big-ass bread-loaves from the grocery and stuff it with meat, lettuce, tomato, onion, salt/pepper and have at it. Makes me crave it just thinking about it.

Forget the "Melt" part.. and the chips, and the soda.
 
2012-10-01 11:36:53 PM

jaylectricity: PallMall: jaylectricity: PallMall: Actually, I'm well in to my 30's and have been pretty hard on myself.

I don't care how old you are. I didn't say anything about how long you've been alive.

I bet you care about that cheeseburger though, don't you?

I don't even like cheese. Where the hell are you coming up with this garbage?


Oh, okay... sideline the truth because you don't like cheese.

Go eat some fresh veggies and slim the fark down before I have to pay more taxes to support your fat ass.
 
2012-10-01 11:40:39 PM
I think I'm going to make it my business to burden you in every way possible.
 
2012-10-01 11:40:43 PM
I guess technically I should say 'one known source' called "cholesterol" derived from only from Meat, eggs, and dairy products, and not found in plants.
 
2012-10-01 11:41:45 PM

intelligent comment below: Except eating this unhealthy food cost every American who has to help pay for your health care.


SO MUCH THIS!

In this modern, PC world, we can just call a fat ass... "A FAT ASS" because their grease-fueled feelings might be hurt. Instead, the rest of us suffer from higher insurance costs and more expensive medicines and Dr's visits for LEGITIMATE issues while you fat bodies chow down like we're running out of food.

I have sympathy for those who have turned around and are losing weight because they realize they're a huge burden on society. I have NO sympathy for fat-asses who sit back and eat another tub of lard because they feel that entitled 'merkins should be able to eat whatever they want and get a free hover-round when they can no longer see/use their genitals, or walk on two feet like humans tend to do.
 
2012-10-01 11:45:14 PM

jaylectricity: I think I'm going to make it my business to burden you in every way possible.


I feel pity for the ground you walk on... unless you're tamping a foundation for a building.

I'd post a picture of a tub of Crisco, but in your ravenous rage, you may lunge at the screen and chip a tooth, creating a tool to replace a common can opener... since you'd surely rather save the energy required to open a drawer and retrieve a can opener to eat through the can and devour whatever is inside.

OM NOM NOM
 
2012-10-01 11:47:20 PM

Lusebagage: I guess technically I should say 'one known source' called "cholesterol" derived from only from Meat, eggs, and dairy products, and not found in plants.


Actually, some plants have cholesterol in them (although small amounts). Lame excuse if you're a vegan.. even lamer than the fact that humans are omnivores.
 
2012-10-02 12:44:16 AM

brantgoose: I tried a Peta recipe for chocolate pudding. One third a cup of melted chocolate and a package of firm tofu. Best thing to ever come out of Peta, I expect. Not great pudding, but good pudding and really easy to make, and one of the best ways to disguise tofu ever discovered. How can you go wrong with chocolate tofu? I expect you could freeze it and make frozen pudding pops.

Another tofu recipe I have tried uses tofu as the main substitute for the white sauce in Coquilles Saint-Jacques. Very tasty.

Real tofu is much healthier than the soybean byproduct used in most processed foods, so these are two of your best bets nutritionally. All of the ingrediants are good for you and high in protein.


I would gladly kill for those recipes. Everything I find searching is either Asian food or just replaces the scallops with tofu. However, I did find a delicious sounding tofu au vin, so that's something.
 
2012-10-02 10:57:00 AM

Lusebagage: El Dudereno: Saturated fat is essential to human health

No its not, that is completely untrue. Saturated fat is actually a poison, and attacked by the human body's white blood cells, and if you don't believe me please watch the following documentary that proves it scientifically. Link

Hebalo: There is also growing evidence that refined carbs are more likely the cause of heart disease.

No there is not, Heart disease has already been linked in numerous scientific study's to cholesterol and saturated fat, As these fatty substances build up inside the walls of arteries as "plaque", the word for this process is known as "atherosclerosis." and has only one known source, Meat, eggs, and dairy products.


Awesome, low carb dieters tend to have really good cholesterol levels. See, ingesting cholesterol doesn't raise your cholesterol level. We also tend to avoid high triglyceride levels.
 
2012-10-02 11:28:16 AM

JackieRabbit: Oznog: In fact it is NOT well scientifically justified that these sodium levels even have ANY health risk.

Correct. Salt is not an issue to healthy people. It has to be limited only in people who have high blood pressure. Most people couldn't stand the amount of salt it would take to make them sick


Oddly enough, I've seen people say that going on a low-salt diet to reduce clinical high blood pressure does NOT consistently have that effect. Sometimes it makes it worse.

Why that "is" is beyond me to say, except that it's implausibly oversimplified to say the body retains more water to balance out the salt somehow.
 
2012-10-02 11:52:15 AM

Hebalo: Lusebagage: El Dudereno: Saturated fat is essential to human health

No its not, that is completely untrue. Saturated fat is actually a poison, and attacked by the human body's white blood cells, and if you don't believe me please watch the following documentary that proves it scientifically. Link

Hebalo: There is also growing evidence that refined carbs are more likely the cause of heart disease.

No there is not, Heart disease has already been linked in numerous scientific study's to cholesterol and saturated fat, As these fatty substances build up inside the walls of arteries as "plaque", the word for this process is known as "atherosclerosis." and has only one known source, Meat, eggs, and dairy products.

Awesome, low carb dieters tend to have really good cholesterol levels. See, ingesting cholesterol doesn't raise your cholesterol level. We also tend to avoid high triglyceride levels.


U trollin? Most cholesterol does NOT come from food, it's made in the body and diet will not change that. It's not "straightforward" that eating cholesterol adds to serum cholesterol in the blood. Paradoxically, eggs are supposed to be GOOD for you even though they contain a lot of LDL (bad) cholesterol.

And cholesterol alone does not result in atherosclerosis, plaques, "hardening of the arteries". It doesn't simply precipitate out as a plaque whenever present. There is an inflammation component, and other ill-understood factors which cause it to become a plaque.

This study suggests that in 70% of the population, dietary LDL intake has no effect on serum cholesterol, but in 30% of the population, it DOES. Also claims that eggs contain a different subtype of LDL, "large particle LDL", which could have a PROTECTIVE effect against heart disease. Then again, the article mentions the need to buy "organic, pasture-raised eggs". Well, pasture-raised might be relevant, but the "organic" term is bullshiat.
 
2012-10-02 04:03:00 PM

Oznog: Hebalo: Lusebagage: El Dudereno: Saturated fat is essential to human health

No its not, that is completely untrue. Saturated fat is actually a poison, and attacked by the human body's white blood cells, and if you don't believe me please watch the following documentary that proves it scientifically. Link

Hebalo: There is also growing evidence that refined carbs are more likely the cause of heart disease.

No there is not, Heart disease has already been linked in numerous scientific study's to cholesterol and saturated fat, As these fatty substances build up inside the walls of arteries as "plaque", the word for this process is known as "atherosclerosis." and has only one known source, Meat, eggs, and dairy products.

Awesome, low carb dieters tend to have really good cholesterol levels. See, ingesting cholesterol doesn't raise your cholesterol level. We also tend to avoid high triglyceride levels.

U trollin? Most cholesterol does NOT come from food, it's made in the body and diet will not change that. It's not "straightforward" that eating cholesterol adds to serum cholesterol in the blood. Paradoxically, eggs are supposed to be GOOD for you even though they contain a lot of LDL (bad) cholesterol.

And cholesterol alone does not result in atherosclerosis, plaques, "hardening of the arteries". It doesn't simply precipitate out as a plaque whenever present. There is an inflammation component, and other ill-understood factors which cause it to become a plaque.

This study suggests that in 70% of the population, dietary LDL intake has no effect on serum cholesterol, but in 30% of the population, it DOES. Also claims that eggs contain a different subtype of LDL, "large particle LDL", which could have a PROTECTIVE effect against heart disease. Then again, the article mentions the need to buy "organic, pasture-raised eggs". Well, pasture-raised might be relevant, but the "organic" term is bullshiat.


Just look at all the drugs that have come out in the past few years that are supposed to lower cholesterol. They do, but the funny thing is that they have absolutely no affect on rates of heart attack, stroke, or mortality.

I can find a documentary that will "prove" just about anyhting scientifically including Jesus running around at the time of the dinos. Most of the science showing how bad saturated fat is has been refuted over the past few years.
 
2012-10-03 12:48:42 PM

Beauf: Just look at all the drugs that have come out in the past few years that are supposed to lower cholesterol. They do, but the funny thing is that they have absolutely no affect on rates of heart attack, stroke, or mortality.

I can find a documentary that will "prove" just about anyhting scientifically including Jesus running around at the time of the dinos. Most of the science showing how bad saturated fat is has been refuted over the past few years.


Yep. THIS. Lowering cholesterol is NOT synonymous with decreasing heart attack risk. It is almost always accepted as such, but it's not. In the blood, cholesterol (HDL or LDL) is utterly harmless. It's the process of forming plaques and hardening the arteries that is the problem. But that process is not so easily measured, and science has become unscientifically obsessed with cholesterol numbers alone because they're so easily measured.
 
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