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2012-10-01 03:11:11 PM

brantgoose: I tried a Peta recipe for chocolate pudding. One third a cup of melted chocolate and a package of firm tofu. Best thing to ever come out of Peta, I expect. Not great pudding, but good pudding and really easy to make, and one of the best ways to disguise tofu ever discovered. How can you go wrong with chocolate tofu? I expect you could freeze it and make frozen pudding pops.

Another tofu recipe I have tried uses tofu as the main substitute for the white sauce in Coquilles Saint-Jacques. Very tasty.

Real tofu is much healthier than the soybean byproduct used in most processed foods, so these are two of your best bets nutritionally. All of the ingrediants are good for you and high in protein.


There's actually chocolate fudge pops made from tofu called Tofutti. Very low in fat and calories, and they taste like those awesome Jello Pudding Pops that don't get made anymore. it's also lactose free, if you have a dairy allergy. I highly recommend them.
 
2012-10-01 03:16:00 PM

OnlyM3: Russ1642

Hebalo: List doesn't show Carb amounts, and thus fails. Fat don't make you fat, bread makes you fat.

Eating fat doesn't make you fat? What flavour kool-aid have you been drinking?
Sounds like the Kool-Aid this guy mixed....
[www.hypnosishome.com image 170x187]
before dropping dead of a massive heart-attack and weighed 258 pounds at death.


The all-knowing Wikipedia: "On April 8, 2003, at age 72, a day after a major snowstorm in New York, Atkins slipped on an icy pavement, suffering severe head trauma. He spent nine days in intensive care before dying on April 17, 2003, from complications from his head injury."

/sorry, had to look it up
 
2012-10-01 03:16:20 PM

hdhale: Hebalo: Russ1642: Hebalo: List doesn't show Carb amounts, and thus fails. Fat don't make you fat, bread makes you fat.

Eating fat doesn't make you fat? What flavour kool-aid have you been drinking?

Kool-Aid is made from sugar, I don't drink it. Fat won't make you fat, Kool-Aid will make you fat.

Drinking Kool-aid while playing hour after hour of video games will make you fat. Drinking Kool-aid while running around the yard, playing kickball, and being physically actives for hours will not.

/Hostess fruit pies on the other hand are the work of Satan


They wouldn't taste half bad if they weren't encased in a cloyingly sweet frosting shell.
 
2012-10-01 03:24:47 PM
amorphophallus cognac
 
2012-10-01 03:26:09 PM
If the author considers any of these items "healthy restaurant foods", they have obiviously lost touch with reality, and are only attempting to tell the majority of readers what they want to hear!

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of "real food for real people" you'd better live real close to a real good hospital." - Dr. Neal Barnard
 
2012-10-01 03:34:12 PM

OnlyM3: Russ1642

Hebalo: List doesn't show Carb amounts, and thus fails. Fat don't make you fat, bread makes you fat.

Eating fat doesn't make you fat? What flavour kool-aid have you been drinking?
Sounds like the Kool-Aid this guy mixed....
[www.hypnosishome.com image 170x187]
before dropping dead of a massive heart-attack and weighed 258 pounds at death complications from a head injury after falling on ice.


FTFY, PETAphile.

Copy of Atkins' death certificate courtesy of the Smoking Gun
 
2012-10-01 03:35:11 PM

Barfmaker: jchic: So, items with 17-20+ grams of fat are healthy? And people wonder why they are fat.

And 1060mg of Sodium...holy moly.


ecx.images-amazon.com

That is 750mg of salt, for reference. I would hardly consider 1060mg to be "holy moly", for a main-part-of-the-meal item.

Sodium's importance is overblown. In fact it is NOT well scientifically justified that these sodium levels even have ANY health risk. That idea started in the 80's, and those initial studies have been shown to be bad science or outright fraudulent. Little has changed since then. There is no market for studies or articles saying that salt is ok, yet any article going on about the danger of salt and how to avoid salt is automatically snapped up.
 
2012-10-01 03:37:50 PM

Oznog: In fact it is NOT well scientifically justified that these sodium levels even have ANY health risk.


Correct. Salt is not an issue to healthy people. It has to be limited only in people who have high blood pressure. Most people couldn't stand the amount of salt it would take to make them sick
 
2012-10-01 03:39:37 PM
wait, hang on. Stan's doctor recommended Aleve.
 
2012-10-01 03:42:49 PM

Lusebagage: "The beef corn industry has contributed to more American deaths ...." - Dr. Neal Barnard


FTFDNB
 
2012-10-01 03:46:13 PM
Want a somewhat healthy breakfast at IHOP?

SIMPLE & FIT Two-Egg Breakfast 350 Calories, 25g Protein 8g Fat 48g Carbs Calories from Fat 70 Saturated Fat 1.5g Trans Fat 0g Cholesterol 30mg Fiber 7g Sugar 19g

/My daughter likes to go to IHOP for pancakes, we go once a month.
 
2012-10-01 03:48:43 PM

Tom_Slick: Want a somewhat healthy breakfast at IHOP?

SIMPLE & FIT Two-Egg Breakfast 350 Calories, 25g Protein 8g Fat 48g Carbs Calories from Fat 70 Saturated Fat 1.5g Trans Fat 0g Cholesterol 30mg Fiber 7g Sugar 19g

/My daughter likes to go to IHOP for pancakes, we go once a month.


yikes that's a lot of sugar.
even for a typical 240 lb american who eats 5 donuts a day and drinks coffee and cream at least twice.
 
2012-10-01 03:53:23 PM
Apparently "Beef" has already clogged beta's brain!
 
2012-10-01 03:54:28 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: yikes that's a lot of sugar.
even for a typical 240 lb american who eats 5 donuts a day and drinks coffee and cream at least twice.



I said somewhat healthy, most of those sugars come from fruit and since I generally avoid sugar once a month won't kill me.
 
2012-10-01 03:58:22 PM
www.snlparty.com

That article sounds like this lady is reading it.
 
2012-10-01 04:02:24 PM
I don't do the fast food thing (vegetarian), but I do appreciate QT's attempts to at least provide a somewhat healthy option for when I'm driving and get hungry. My go-to snack is nuts or sunflower seeds, especially if I'm about to erupt into total-beeiatch mode because I'm hungry and no where near either home or somewhere with a healthy option.

QT's started carrying a celery, carrot and cheese snack pack, and they usually have apples and yogurt. Kinda sad that the healthier things can be found at a gas station, not a fast food 'restaurant'.
 
2012-10-01 04:14:20 PM

OnlyM3: Russ1642

Hebalo: List doesn't show Carb amounts, and thus fails. Fat don't make you fat, bread makes you fat.

Eating fat doesn't make you fat? What flavour kool-aid have you been drinking?
Sounds like the Kool-Aid this guy mixed....
[www.hypnosishome.com image 170x187]
before dropping dead of a massive heart-attack and weighed 258 pounds at death.


From what I understand, he slipped on an icy sidewalk and fell, and hit his head, causing traumatic brain injury. During the week he was in a coma before he died, he retained water like crazy, as people in that state often do. I don't think the Atkins diet is a necessarily a good idea, but its inventor's death is not a good example of why it isn't.
 
2012-10-01 04:32:48 PM
Nothing on this list even sounded good. If I am going to eat something bad for me at least it could taste good.

An awful lot of these things were also desserts, which means you are eating them in addition to whatever godawful fat pill you already consumed from the same place.
 
2012-10-01 04:39:11 PM

Egoy3k: PallMall: You sound large.

PallMall: You sound husky.

So do you.


If 6' / 180lbs is "large" or "husky" - I don't want be skinny.... fattie-fat-fat.
 
2012-10-01 04:48:14 PM
Here is a better list, both for taste and your health.
http://healthland.time.com/2012/10/01/guide-the-31-healthiest-foods-o f -all-time-with-recipes/?hpt=hp_c2#all
 
2012-10-01 04:58:01 PM

PallMall: Egoy3k: PallMall: You sound large.

PallMall: You sound husky.

So do you.

If 6' / 180lbs is "large" or "husky" - I don't want be skinny.... fattie-fat-fat.


5'8" 250lbs here
 
2012-10-01 05:36:23 PM

PallMall: Egoy3k: PallMall: You sound large.

PallMall: You sound husky.

So do you.

If 6' / 180lbs is "large" or "husky" - I don't want be skinny.... fattie-fat-fat.


Thanks for reminding me of elementary school. I'm amazed that you can get so much pleasure out of calling people fat. Oh well, anything to distract you from whatever is horribly wrong with yourself.
 
2012-10-01 05:43:02 PM

jchic: So, items with 17-20+ grams of fat are healthy? And people wonder why they are fat.


Fat doesn't make you fat at nearly the rate of starch or sugar.
 
2012-10-01 05:58:57 PM

Adctd2fark: Alcohol doesn't make you an Alcoholic, YOU make you and alcoholic. Stop drinking and you won't be an alcoholic?

"Are we really, after decades of bad nutritional advice bought and paid for by the people who brought you high fructose corn syrup and subsidies on corn and grain, going to blame personal weakness on the obesity crisis?"

SERIOUSLY? Did someone tell us earlier that eating tons of greasy food was somehow good for us? Or that for a meal to be decent, it has to be ready in less than 5 minutes?

As a society, we decided we wanted standardized looking and tasting food, cheaply, and in a hurry. THis is why most fast food flavor is made in a factory, filled with oils that act as preservatives, and include as little perishable (i.e. FRESH) food as possible. The fast food companies didn't force us into it, although they definitely acted as facilitators.

No matter what is out there, we all have a duty to use our common sense. As my mom says, if everyone jumped of the Goerge Washington Bridge, would you?


How are most people to stay or get healthy if the information they are given is flat wrong?
They are told to eat lots of "healthy" whole grains, that soy is a wonder food, and to count calories in order to lose weight. Oh, also don't eat animal fat or full-fat dairy.
Just look at the old USDA food pyramid or the new "my plate" thing that has been out.
It's all terrible advice paid for by people and corporations with a vested interest in you being fat and sick.
 
2012-10-01 06:08:52 PM

El Dudereno: Fat doesn't make you fat at nearly the rate of starch or sugar.


False, a gram of "fat" has more calories than a gram of protein or carbohydrates/sugars. Ingesting "fat" also his been linked to many autoimmune diseases, as explained in the documentary "A Delicate Balance - The Truth" perhaps you should watch it, so you get your facts straight.

Link
 
2012-10-01 06:11:08 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: 5'8" 250lbs here


jaylectricity: Thanks for reminding me of elementary school. I'm amazed that you can get so much pleasure out of calling people fat. Oh well, anything to distract you from whatever is horribly wrong with yourself.


ytrewq.com

Whatever happened to the days when the fat kid had enough of the down-talk and went and lost weight and became a super star of some sort. Now you all just sulk and call it either "bullying" or use it as an excuse to stuff your face more.

Being fat is a choice.
 
2012-10-01 06:11:34 PM

El Dudereno: Adctd2fark: Alcohol doesn't make you an Alcoholic, YOU make you and alcoholic. Stop drinking and you won't be an alcoholic?

"Are we really, after decades of bad nutritional advice bought and paid for by the people who brought you high fructose corn syrup and subsidies on corn and grain, going to blame personal weakness on the obesity crisis?"

SERIOUSLY? Did someone tell us earlier that eating tons of greasy food was somehow good for us? Or that for a meal to be decent, it has to be ready in less than 5 minutes?

As a society, we decided we wanted standardized looking and tasting food, cheaply, and in a hurry. THis is why most fast food flavor is made in a factory, filled with oils that act as preservatives, and include as little perishable (i.e. FRESH) food as possible. The fast food companies didn't force us into it, although they definitely acted as facilitators.

No matter what is out there, we all have a duty to use our common sense. As my mom says, if everyone jumped of the Goerge Washington Bridge, would you?

How are most people to stay or get healthy if the information they are given is flat wrong?
They are told to eat lots of "healthy" whole grains, that soy is a wonder food, and to count calories in order to lose weight. Oh, also don't eat animal fat or full-fat dairy.
Just look at the old USDA food pyramid or the new "my plate" thing that has been out.
It's all terrible advice paid for by people and corporations with a vested interest in you being fat and sick.


Sadly, following any of the guidelines including the old pyramid would be a significant improvement for a lot of people. They eat massive quantities of processed, high fat, high sugar foods on top of or nestled in between high carb pasta or bread made from highly processed grains. The reality is that most people pay absolutely no attention to what they eat and do no exercise at all.
 
2012-10-01 06:16:28 PM

Lusebagage: El Dudereno: Fat doesn't make you fat at nearly the rate of starch or sugar.

False, a gram of "fat" has more calories than a gram of protein or carbohydrates/sugars. Ingesting "fat" also his been linked to many autoimmune diseases, as explained in the documentary "A Delicate Balance - The Truth" perhaps you should watch it, so you get your facts straight.

Link


That is true, but if you measure intake in calories rather than grams you would be better off with a certain number of calories in fat than HFC. That being said, too much fat will make you fat. Too much of anything well. Too little of a lot of things including fat is not good either. Balance and moderation combined with exercise.
 
2012-10-01 07:09:27 PM
I thought this Aktins fad bullshiat died with the old man.

A bunch of overweight people who don't have the mental will to stop eating all the high fat high sodium junk food they crave so they just look at calories.
 
2012-10-01 07:09:46 PM

PallMall: Whatever happened to the days when the fat kid had enough of the down-talk and went and lost weight and became a super star of some sort. Now you all just sulk and call it either "bullying" or use it as an excuse to stuff your face more.


Fat people don't have to sulk. We're the majority now. Your skinny ass is the weird one.
 
2012-10-01 07:23:34 PM

Oznog: Barfmaker: jchic: So, items with 17-20+ grams of fat are healthy? And people wonder why they are fat.

And 1060mg of Sodium...holy moly.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

That is 750mg of salt, for reference. I would hardly consider 1060mg to be "holy moly", for a main-part-of-the-meal item.

Sodium's importance is overblown. In fact it is NOT well scientifically justified that these sodium levels even have ANY health risk. That idea started in the 80's, and those initial studies have been shown to be bad science or outright fraudulent. Little has changed since then. There is no market for studies or articles saying that salt is ok, yet any article going on about the danger of salt and how to avoid salt is automatically snapped up.


Cool, thanks for clearing that up.
 
2012-10-01 07:30:59 PM

intelligent comment below: I thought this Aktins fad bullshiat died with the old man.

A bunch of overweight people who don't have the mental will to stop eating all the high fat high sodium junk food they crave so they just look at calories.


If they could even do that honestly and consistently, they wouldn't still be overweight. "Counting calories" alone isn't a great diet plan, but the laws of physics still apply - if you burn more calories than you take in, you will lose weight, even if those calories are coming from shiattiest-possible sources.
 
2012-10-01 07:35:20 PM

Beauf: if you measure intake in calories rather than grams you would be better off with a certain number of calories in fat than HFC


The point is, people often eat until they feel full, very few people eat meals based on calories. Eating fat laden calories also puts undue stress on the body, as outlined in the book "Thrive" by Brendan Braizer. The fact remains, ingesting fat, especially saturated fat, is the direct cause of heart disease, the #1 killer in America. You are never better off getting calories from fat over non fat sources.
 
2012-10-01 07:38:42 PM

Lusebagage: If the author considers any of these items "healthy restaurant foods", they have obiviously lost touch with reality, and are only attempting to tell the majority of readers what they want to hear!

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of "real food for real people" you'd better live real close to a real good hospital." - Dr. Neal Barnard


Interesting. I eat at least half a pound of beef or lamb (grass-fed) and a third of a stick of butter (grass-fed) per day and I'm not fat or dead. In fact, I feel pretty damn good nearly all the time.
Hell, I mix butter and coconut oil into my coffee.


I happen to agree that factory-farmed meat is aweful, though.
 
2012-10-01 07:53:57 PM

Lusebagage: Beauf: if you measure intake in calories rather than grams you would be better off with a certain number of calories in fat than HFC

The point is, people often eat until they feel full, very few people eat meals based on calories. Eating fat laden calories also puts undue stress on the body, as outlined in the book "Thrive" by Brendan Braizer. The fact remains, ingesting fat, especially saturated fat, is the direct cause of heart disease, the #1 killer in America. You are never better off getting calories from fat over non fat sources.


Saturated fat is essential to human health. It's required for a ton of very important processes in the human body , such as hormone production and cell reproduction.
It also helps to blunt blood sugar spikes.
 
2012-10-01 08:16:19 PM

El Dudereno: Lusebagage: Beauf: if you measure intake in calories rather than grams you would be better off with a certain number of calories in fat than HFC

The point is, people often eat until they feel full, very few people eat meals based on calories. Eating fat laden calories also puts undue stress on the body, as outlined in the book "Thrive" by Brendan Braizer. The fact remains, ingesting fat, especially saturated fat, is the direct cause of heart disease, the #1 killer in America. You are never better off getting calories from fat over non fat sources.

Saturated fat is essential to human health. It's required for a ton of very important processes in the human body , such as hormone production and cell reproduction.
It also helps to blunt blood sugar spikes.


It is also needed to absorb many nutrients properly, for proper brain function and development, nervous system function, etc... high fructose corn syrup on the other hand serves no function and is more readily converted to body fat than dietary fats. The insulin spikes and other hormonal issues related to consumption of HFC along with its propensity to end up a visceral fat have been shown in recent years to contribute more to cardiac disease than consumption of fat
 
2012-10-01 08:20:30 PM

Lusebagage: Beauf: if you measure intake in calories rather than grams you would be better off with a certain number of calories in fat than HFC

The point is, people often eat until they feel full, very few people eat meals based on calories. Eating fat laden calories also puts undue stress on the body, as outlined in the book "Thrive" by Brendan Braizer. The fact remains, ingesting fat, especially saturated fat, is the direct cause of heart disease, the #1 killer in America. You are never better off getting calories from fat over non fat sources.


There is also growing evidence that refined carbs are more likely the cause of heart disease.
 
2012-10-01 08:39:27 PM

OnlyM3: Sounds like the Kool-Aid this guy mixed....
www.hypnosishome.com
before dropping dead of a massive heart-attack and weighed 258 pounds at death.



Not content with spreading your ignorance in the politics tab... you have branched out.
 
2012-10-01 08:54:12 PM

jaylectricity: Fat people don't have to sulk. We're the majority now. Your skinny ass is the weird one.


Not for long... at the rate you folks are dropping.

Don't get me wrong.. I don't exercise or anything.. I just have a healthy metabolism and stay pretty active. I smoke and drink, and do all sorts of unhealthy things... but if I feel fat, I cut the Coke from my mixed drinks, or ask for no cheese on my burger.

I at least want to be able to fit through the door before I collapse into eternity.
 
2012-10-01 09:14:12 PM

PallMall: jaylectricity: Fat people don't have to sulk. We're the majority now. Your skinny ass is the weird one.

Not for long... at the rate you folks are dropping.

Don't get me wrong.. I don't exercise or anything.. I just have a healthy metabolism and stay pretty active. I smoke and drink, and do all sorts of unhealthy things... but if I feel fat, I cut the Coke from my mixed drinks, or ask for no cheese on my burger.

I at least want to be able to fit through the door before I collapse into eternity.


Like I said, you sound like a grade-schooler. How nice for you that your body does all the work despite your best efforts to ruin it. It must feel great to take great pride in something that you barely have to worry about.

I'll remember you the next time I take a huge dump and I barely break a sweat doing it.
 
2012-10-01 09:24:08 PM

jaylectricity: Like I said, you sound like a grade-schooler. How nice for you that your body does all the work despite your best efforts to ruin it. It must feel great to take great pride in something that you barely have to worry about.


Actually, I'm well in to my 30's and have been pretty hard on myself. I guess it's all in the genes.

I'll remember you the next time I take a huge dump and I barely break a sweat doing it.

Haha... like that ever happens.
 
2012-10-01 09:42:23 PM

PallMall: Actually, I'm well in to my 30's and have been pretty hard on myself.


I don't care how old you are. I didn't say anything about how long you've been alive.
 
2012-10-01 09:55:52 PM

jchic: So, items with 17-20+ grams of fat are healthy? And people wonder why they are fat.


Fat doesn't make you fat.
 
2012-10-01 09:59:26 PM
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2012-10-01 03:16:00 PM

OnlyM3: Russ1642

Hebalo: List doesn't show Carb amounts, and thus fails. Fat don't make you fat, bread makes you fat.

Eating fat doesn't make you fat? What flavour kool-aid have you been drinking?
Sounds like the Kool-Aid this guy mixed....
[www.hypnosishome.com image 170x187]
before dropping dead of a massive heart-attack and weighed 258 pounds at death.

The all-knowing Wikipedia: "On April 8, 2003, at age 72, a day after a major snowstorm in New York, Atkins slipped on an icy pavement, suffering severe head trauma. He spent nine days in intensive care before dying on April 17, 2003, from complications from his head injury."

/sorry, had to look it up


Yes and you can look up several actors who committed suicide but are listed as dying from "natural causes". Bribes to protect a multi-million dollar scam business aren't unheard of.

Atkins's medical history are contained in handwritten notations on one page of the ME's document--"MI" for myocardial infarction, "CHF" for congestive heart failure, and "HTN" for hypertension.

As to the weight:
The document, first reported on by The Wall Street Journal, also lists Atkins weight as 258 pounds.

.. but his "press agent" claims it was all gained AFTER he went to the hospital. Really? Go do a google image search. He wasn't slim.
 
2012-10-01 10:01:09 PM
 
2012-10-01 10:28:57 PM

jaylectricity: PallMall: Actually, I'm well in to my 30's and have been pretty hard on myself.

I don't care how old you are. I didn't say anything about how long you've been alive.


I bet you care about that cheeseburger though, don't you?
 
2012-10-01 10:50:46 PM
So...I've just depressed myself a little more. Consulted my Lose It app on my phone...and apparently, some of my healthier choices of food have sodium levels out the ass. A six inch Subway melt - which, at about 370 calories, kicks a Baconator's ass and takes it's lunch money - had about 1100mg.
 
2012-10-01 10:58:24 PM
unhealthy: having nothing to eat at all. count your blessings, morans.
 
2012-10-01 11:17:24 PM

KrispyKritter: unhealthy: having nothing to eat at all. count your blessings, morans.



Except eating this unhealthy food cost every American who has to help pay for your health care.
 
2012-10-01 11:31:11 PM

El Dudereno: Saturated fat is essential to human health


No its not, that is completely untrue. Saturated fat is actually a poison, and attacked by the human body's white blood cells, and if you don't believe me please watch the following documentary that proves it scientifically. Link

Hebalo: There is also growing evidence that refined carbs are more likely the cause of heart disease.


No there is not, Heart disease has already been linked in numerous scientific study's to cholesterol and saturated fat, As these fatty substances build up inside the walls of arteries as "plaque", the word for this process is known as "atherosclerosis." and has only one known source, Meat, eggs, and dairy products.
 
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