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2012-10-01 01:34:51 PM

WarszawaScream: YOU make you fat. Stop eating all that shiat and you won't get fat.


Alcohol doesn't make you an Alcoholic, YOU make you and alcoholic. Stop drinking and you won't be an alcoholic?

Are we really, after decades of bad nutritional advice bought and paid for by the people who brought you high fructose corn syrup and subsidies on corn and grain, going to blame personal weakness on the obesity crisis?

Too easy.
 
2012-10-01 01:35:33 PM
Maybe this article will be a little more helpful:
5 Healthy Chain-Restaurant Meals
 
2012-10-01 01:36:35 PM
Some of those sodium counts were... intimidating.

A little sprinkle of salt can help bring out a dish's flavors. Salt should not, however, *be* the dish's flavor. A restaurant that abuses salt is probably trying to mask crap-quality ingredients.
 
2012-10-01 01:37:09 PM

mithrandir: Guilty pleasure at Los Pollos Hermanos
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I always liked the chili pepper flavor better.
 
2012-10-01 01:39:40 PM

mithrandir: Guilty pleasure at Los Pollos Hermanos


You're damn straight you'll lose weight.
 
2012-10-01 01:40:05 PM

Russ1642: Hebalo: Russ1642: Hebalo: List doesn't show Carb amounts, and thus fails. Fat don't make you fat, bread makes you fat.

Eating fat doesn't make you fat? What flavour kool-aid have you been drinking?

Kool-Aid is made from sugar, I don't drink it. Fat won't make you fat, Kool-Aid will make you fat.

Drinking the kool-aid refers to the Jonestown massacre.



Yeah but it was low-fat cyanide so we're golden.
 
2012-10-01 01:40:51 PM

Hebalo: WarszawaScream: YOU make you fat. Stop eating all that shiat and you won't get fat.

Alcohol doesn't make you an Alcoholic, YOU make you and alcoholic. Stop drinking and you won't be an alcoholic?

Are we really, after decades of bad nutritional advice bought and paid for by the people who brought you high fructose corn syrup and subsidies on corn and grain, going to blame personal weakness on the obesity crisis?

Too easy.


Oh my God please tell me I'm just being trolled and you really don't think that a person can blame their fatness on everybody but themselves.

I know I'm fat! I know I don't need to eat that pizza today. I know I could have just as easily gone and ordered the salad! But I wanted the pizza. My coworkers didn't whisper EAT THE PIZZA. The pizzaman didn't say "Why, you don't want that salad Tubby,you want the pizza instead!" Television didn't report that YOU WANT PIZZA on the weather this morning, the smiling lady in the Kraft Mac N Cheese commercial didn't say "Why not have pizza instead?" and the billboard I passed on my way to work advertising pizza didn't convince me "YOU NEED TO HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH. YOU WILL HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH."

I sat back in my chair at noon, I looked at the ceilling, and I thought about what I wanted for lunch. And I decided "...you know what? I want some pizza."

That was all me, baby.
 
2012-10-01 01:41:10 PM
The McDouble from Dirty Ronnie's is $1. It is by far the biggest bang for your buck on this list.

Bummer that you have to eat 2, since you're not ordering fries or a diet coke - what with the diet you're on and all.
 
2012-10-01 01:43:36 PM
I love to eat as well as anybody, but trying to consider anything on that list as remotely healthy is flat out retarded.
 
2012-10-01 01:46:51 PM
Considering this article was published by a self-proclaimed "Health" related source, expect to see "mildly-obese" (READ: Lardo) folks on the covers of future fitness mags as "The New Fit."

I fully expect to see cover blurbs such as...

"40 new diets under 6,500 calories a day (pg. 633)"
"Spandex v2.0 - sexy, slimming fabric making a comeback"
etc...

// Would write more, but I thew up in my mouth thinking of the possibilities.
 
2012-10-01 01:48:40 PM
Alcohol doesn't make you an Alcoholic, YOU make you and alcoholic. Stop drinking and you won't be an alcoholic?

"Are we really, after decades of bad nutritional advice bought and paid for by the people who brought you high fructose corn syrup and subsidies on corn and grain, going to blame personal weakness on the obesity crisis?"

SERIOUSLY? Did someone tell us earlier that eating tons of greasy food was somehow good for us? Or that for a meal to be decent, it has to be ready in less than 5 minutes?

As a society, we decided we wanted standardized looking and tasting food, cheaply, and in a hurry. THis is why most fast food flavor is made in a factory, filled with oils that act as preservatives, and include as little perishable (i.e. FRESH) food as possible. The fast food companies didn't force us into it, although they definitely acted as facilitators.

No matter what is out there, we all have a duty to use our common sense. As my mom says, if everyone jumped of the Goerge Washington Bridge, would you?
 
2012-10-01 01:49:53 PM

WarszawaScream: Hebalo: WarszawaScream: YOU make you fat. Stop eating all that shiat and you won't get fat.

Alcohol doesn't make you an Alcoholic, YOU make you and alcoholic. Stop drinking and you won't be an alcoholic?

Are we really, after decades of bad nutritional advice bought and paid for by the people who brought you high fructose corn syrup and subsidies on corn and grain, going to blame personal weakness on the obesity crisis?

Too easy.

Oh my God please tell me I'm just being trolled and you really don't think that a person can blame their fatness on everybody but themselves.

I know I'm fat! I know I don't need to eat that pizza today. I know I could have just as easily gone and ordered the salad! But I wanted the pizza. My coworkers didn't whisper EAT THE PIZZA. The pizzaman didn't say "Why, you don't want that salad Tubby,you want the pizza instead!" Television didn't report that YOU WANT PIZZA on the weather this morning, the smiling lady in the Kraft Mac N Cheese commercial didn't say "Why not have pizza instead?" and the billboard I passed on my way to work advertising pizza didn't convince me "YOU NEED TO HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH. YOU WILL HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH."

I sat back in my chair at noon, I looked at the ceilling, and I thought about what I wanted for lunch. And I decided "...you know what? I want some pizza."

That was all me, baby.


That was your body convincing you that the best way to get easily broken down carbs was to think about pizza more. It was closely followed by a release of insulin in to your bloodstream, preparing your body to start storing all that lovely sugar. Which also had the effect of making you hungrier still.

I'm not saying there is no room for personal choice. I'm saying if it was as easy as you say, 2/3 of the US wouldn't be technically obsese.

"People don't get fat because they eat too much, they eat too much because they're getting fat"
 
2012-10-01 01:50:03 PM

AttawaYawattA: Vegan here. Graduated from Vegan University at full power. I can fly and shoot psyonic fireballs at fatties. Enjoy your bacon, puny humans.


Too bad you'll be so senile a nurse will have to spoon feed you your tofu by the time you're 70. But it's ok, you'll live to see 100 that way.

/balance, we're omnivores
 
2012-10-01 01:51:03 PM
I don't eat fast food very often.. and when I do, it is at a one-of-a-kind place that serves some of the best hot dogs I've ever had (and they are consistently good).
But, if I am going to hit McDonalds (busy day and simply need to stop someplace and eat something), I get their regular, single cheeseburger... only 30 carbs the last time I checked. As a borderline diabetic I can even have 2 of them and still be quite safe! For some reason, I can NOT stand their double cheeseburgers, even tho they SHOULD be the same, with just an added patty!
 
2012-10-01 01:51:06 PM

Sybarite: Salsa is now America's most popular condiment (take that, ketchup).

You know why? Because people like to say "salsa."


Actually it's because of the massive rise in Hispanic immigration, and the food habits they bring with them.

Ounce per ounce, Ketchup/Catsup/WTF EVER is probably sold more... and until Dirty Ronnie's hands it out with fries, I think the author should do more research.
 
2012-10-01 01:51:17 PM
It's a list of things that'll make you eat again looking for the food you missed. And when you're away from the restaurant you're more likely to turn to candy.

My favorite lunch out is at a Mexican place that's a grilled half chicken, 6 corn tortillas, cup of rice, cup of beans, and half of a caramelized onion. And a fountain drink, they have Coke Zero on tap. It'll make you full all afternoon, but it's complex carbs so you don't go into a coma like with a big plate of pasta or fries. Pretty damn good for $7.

/Not doing that today
//Had 8oz sirloin and fresh veggies for lunch.
 
2012-10-01 01:53:45 PM

WarszawaScream: I know I'm fat! I know I don't need to eat that pizza today. I know I could have just as easily gone and ordered the salad! But I wanted the pizza. My coworkers didn't whisper EAT THE PIZZA. The pizzaman didn't say "Why, you don't want that salad Tubby,you want the pizza instead!" Television didn't report that YOU WANT PIZZA on the weather this morning, the smiling lady in the Kraft Mac N Cheese commercial didn't say "Why not have pizza instead?" and the billboard I passed on my way to work advertising pizza didn't convince me "YOU NEED TO HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH. YOU WILL HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH."

I sat back in my chair at noon, I looked at the ceilling, and I thought about what I wanted for lunch. And I decided "...you know what? I want some pizza."

That was all me, baby.


That's it...I'm ordering pizza.
 
2012-10-01 01:54:17 PM

TheMega: I don't eat fast food very often.. and when I do, it is at a one-of-a-kind place that serves some of the best hot dogs I've ever had (and they are consistently good).


So, you prefer animal mouths and rectums over flesh?

Don't get me wrong, I like a good hotdog, but it's an occasional thing.

But, if I am going to hit McDonalds (busy day and simply need to stop someplace and eat something), I get their regular, single cheeseburger... only 30 carbs the last time I checked. As a borderline diabetic I can even have 2 of them and still be quite safe! For some reason, I can NOT stand their double cheeseburgers, even tho they SHOULD be the same, with just an added patty!

Don't get the Double Cheeseburger. Get the McDouble. I rarely eat the crap, but I know exactly why you cannot stand the Double Cheeseburger..... it has DOUBLE CHEESE on it. The McDouble has ONE slice of cheese - so there's less of the gagging that comes with eating Dirty Ronnie's slop.
 
2012-10-01 01:55:30 PM

HairBolus: I hate the category "healthy food" because what it really means is healthier than some really unhealthy food.

My sister is fat. She considers a meal incomplete unless it includes desert but that's ok because she only eats "healthy" deserts (lower in fat or sugar than the worst) which means she can have 2 portions. A real healthy dessert would be something like a piece of melon or a portion of almost anything that is 1/4 the size of what she normally eats.


People like that can be maddening. I really wish that more people would at least have a passing knowledge of how many calories are in various food items, and what it takes to burn a certain number of calories. I know too many people who will go for a half-mile jog and then "reward" themselves with a slice of cheesecake.
 
2012-10-01 01:55:31 PM

wildcardjack: 6 corn tortillas


So 300+ calories in tortillas alone??

You sound large.
 
2012-10-01 01:56:28 PM
Not gonna lie, I read that one and ordered a large pie.
 
2012-10-01 01:57:35 PM

ScottRiqui: I know too many people who will go for a half-mile jog and then "reward" themselves with a slice of cheesecake.


And after reading this article - where they associate "healthy" with 500 calories and 1000mg of sodium - they'll probably "reward" themselves with a cheeseburger because they went inside rather than through drive-thru.
 
2012-10-01 01:58:24 PM

Hebalo: WarszawaScream: Oh my God please tell me I'm just being trolled and you really don't think that a person can blame their fatness on everybody but themselves.

I know I'm fat! I know I don't need to eat that pizza today. I know I could have just as easily gone and ordered the salad! But I wanted the pizza. My coworkers didn't whisper EAT THE PIZZA. The pizzaman didn't say "Why, you don't want that salad Tubby,you want the pizza instead!" Television didn't report that YOU WANT PIZZA on the weather this morning, the smiling lady in the Kraft Mac N Cheese commercial didn't say "Why not have pizza instead?" and the billboard I passed on my way to work advertising pizza didn't convince me "YOU NEED TO HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH. YOU WILL HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH."

I sat back in my chair at noon, I looked at the ceilling, and I thought about what I wanted for lunch. And I decided "...you know what? I want some pizza."

That was all me, baby.

That was your body convincing you that the best way to get easily broken down carbs was to think about pizza more. It was closely followed by a release of insulin in to your bloodstream, preparing your body to start storing all that lovely sugar. Which also had the effect of making you hungrier still.

I'm not saying there is no room for personal choice. I'm saying if it was as easy as you say, 2/3 of the US wouldn't be technically obsese.

"People don't get fat because they eat too much, they eat too much because they're getting fat"


... I'm not sure what sciencey Kool-Aid you think you drank, and sure, maybe 90% of the population just doesn't have this mystical will-power to tell their body "I don't care what you're craving, we're eating something healthy and that's that"... but yeah, do me a favor and don't lump me in with that 90%. That sounds like the same science that went into "Why women crave chocolate when they have PMS or are upset" and guess what, I never crave chocolate when I have PMS or am upset either.
 
2012-10-01 02:00:38 PM

WarszawaScream: I'm not sure what sciencey Kool-Aid you think you drank, and sure, maybe 90% of the population just doesn't have this mystical will-power to tell their body "I don't care what you're craving, we're eating something healthy and that's that"... but yeah, do me a favor and don't lump me in with that 90%. That sounds like the same science that went into "Why women crave chocolate when they have PMS or are upset" and guess what, I never crave chocolate when I have PMS or am upset either.


You sound husky.
 
2012-10-01 02:03:48 PM
More like 'almost reasonably portioned'. It's still fast food. And how do they still get away with calling Arby's "roast beef"? It's bologna with gray food coloring.
 
2012-10-01 02:09:48 PM

AttawaYawattA: Vegan here. Graduated from Vegan University at full power. I can fly and shoot psyonic fireballs at fatties. Enjoy your bacon, puny humans.


There was half-and-half in that latte you just had. All your powers are GONE!
 
2012-10-01 02:10:51 PM

wiredtolain: mithrandir: Guilty pleasure at Los Pollos Hermanos

That looks pretty good. Probably goes well with a New Mexican Chicken Sandwich.

\Allergic to tacos


That's a solid gold win, that's what that is.
 
2012-10-01 02:11:30 PM

PallMall: You sound large.


PallMall: You sound husky.


So do you.
 
2012-10-01 02:11:52 PM

HairBolus: A real healthy dessert would be something like a piece of melon or a portion of almost anything that is 1/4 the size of what she normally eats.


Or 2 Xenadrine and a 45-minute walk.
 
2012-10-01 02:12:07 PM

Adctd2fark: Alcohol doesn't make you an Alcoholic, YOU make you and alcoholic.


But boy-howdy, it sure makes it easier! You are, of course, correct.

cjmook21: And how do they still get away with calling Arby's "roast beef"? It's bologna with gray food coloring.


Because it isn't bologna with brown food coloring. It actually is beef, but it is pressed and formed beef. A stretch, I agree, but it's more real and lower in fat than any of the burger chains hamburger patties. And, believe it or not, Arby's does indeed roast their beef on site daily. McD's, for a comparison, receives frozen, fully cooked burgers, which they just heat up.
 
2012-10-01 02:13:23 PM

Hebalo: pute kisses like a man: Hebalo: List doesn't show Carb amounts, and thus fails. Fat don't make you fat, bread makes you fat.

nonsense. bread makes you happy. the problem, like most things, is a lack of moderation.

although, i think science plays a role in fatness. for example, super high sodium levels for preservation, high and concentrated sugars, hydrogenated fats, poly-____-whatevers, injected flavors, etc.

Bread spikes your blood sugar, insulin starts storing available material on hand as fat. Refined sugars and flours make it worse.


i guess that explains why everyone is so fat in france. all that damn bread they always eat.
 
2012-10-01 02:14:25 PM

WarszawaScream: Hebalo: WarszawaScream: Oh my God please tell me I'm just being trolled and you really don't think that a person can blame their fatness on everybody but themselves.

I know I'm fat! I know I don't need to eat that pizza today. I know I could have just as easily gone and ordered the salad! But I wanted the pizza. My coworkers didn't whisper EAT THE PIZZA. The pizzaman didn't say "Why, you don't want that salad Tubby,you want the pizza instead!" Television didn't report that YOU WANT PIZZA on the weather this morning, the smiling lady in the Kraft Mac N Cheese commercial didn't say "Why not have pizza instead?" and the billboard I passed on my way to work advertising pizza didn't convince me "YOU NEED TO HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH. YOU WILL HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH."

I sat back in my chair at noon, I looked at the ceilling, and I thought about what I wanted for lunch. And I decided "...you know what? I want some pizza."

That was all me, baby.

That was your body convincing you that the best way to get easily broken down carbs was to think about pizza more. It was closely followed by a release of insulin in to your bloodstream, preparing your body to start storing all that lovely sugar. Which also had the effect of making you hungrier still.

I'm not saying there is no room for personal choice. I'm saying if it was as easy as you say, 2/3 of the US wouldn't be technically obsese.

"People don't get fat because they eat too much, they eat too much because they're getting fat"

... I'm not sure what sciencey Kool-Aid you think you drank, and sure, maybe 90% of the population just doesn't have this mystical will-power to tell their body "I don't care what you're craving, we're eating something healthy and that's that"... but yeah, do me a favor and don't lump me in with that 90%. That sounds like the same science that went into "Why women crave chocolate when they have PMS or are upset" and guess what, I never crave chocolate when I have PMS or am upset either.


Cool, you're the exception then. If you think it's simply mind over matter, great. But it's not that simple. You're driven by your chemistry. The brain wants sugar. It gets it. It wants to make sure it's never out of stock. It stores it whenever and however it can.

Fats and Proteins satiate the appetite FAT better than sugars and carbs. Try this out one morning. Get up. Have nothing but carbs for breakfast. Have a couple of pieces of toast, with jam etc... Wait, see how long it is before you're back in the pantry looking for snacks.

Try it again with protein and fat, but no carbs. You're not hungry until lunch.

So now we grow up being told "EAT 6-11 servings of grain per day" and "Fat is BAD!!!!!". Our bodies get addicted to sugar, Mom passes her increased insulin resistance on to the baby, then raises his drinking fruit juice.

Why are we fat? The question is, with the way things are, how DON'T we get fat?
 
2012-10-01 02:15:13 PM

JackieRabbit: Adctd2fark: Alcohol doesn't make you an Alcoholic, YOU make you and alcoholic.

But boy-howdy, it sure makes it easier! You are, of course, correct.

cjmook21: And how do they still get away with calling Arby's "roast beef"? It's bologna with gray food coloring.

Because it isn't bologna with brown food coloring. It actually is beef, but it is pressed and formed beef. A stretch, I agree, but it's more real and lower in fat than any of the burger chains hamburger patties. And, believe it or not, Arby's does indeed roast their beef on site daily. McD's, for a comparison, receives frozen, fully cooked burgers, which they just heat up.


It you're going to clear up false accusations against one fast food chain, you should close by making new false accusations against another. The meat is frozen, but they do cook it fresh on site. Now breakfast is another matter. The sausage patties for that are precooked patties.
 
2012-10-01 02:20:33 PM

Stavr0: AttawaYawattA: Vegan here. Graduated from Vegan University at full power. I can fly and shoot psyonic fireballs at fatties. Enjoy your bacon, puny humans.

There was half-and-half in that latte you just had. All your powers are GONE!


Farkin Vegan Police getting all uppity. I'm still only at one strike :p
 
2012-10-01 02:21:11 PM

Hebalo: List doesn't show Carb amounts, and thus fails. Fat don't make you fat, bread makes you fat.


This. For the better part of the population, moderation is key, and combined with proper activity life will be good. Sadly, many people don't understand how the body works or uses various sources of nutrition(insulin response, how fat is stored, etc). Carbs should be viewed as rocket fuel. Carbs + fat together in high doses will add to the waistline like nobodies business, and blood cholesterol will be horrendous. High carbs and low/no fat = hungry all the time and a blood sugar level that runs like a roller coaster(worse if the foods all have a high glycemic index), though if the sources are clean they'll have decent blood cholesterol. High fat and low/no carbs = steady energy all day, little hunger, and some of the healthiest cholesterol levels you'll see, though with our current food industry this will be expensive for eating.
 
2012-10-01 02:22:31 PM
At some point the food industry will admit what it knows: that fats and starches do not make you fat easily (you have to really work hard at building muscle mass and letting it go soft) but sugar and fructose will make you fat systematically.

The global weight crisis is a sugar crisis, no more or less, and the obsession with fats 100% misdirection by the food industry and its captive regulators. You can eat as much butter, cheese, bread (brown is better, fibre is good), meat, salt, fish, vegetables as you want, you will *not* get fat nor high cholesterol. However, modern fruit with its super-high fructose content, HFCS, sugar will destroy your digestive system, addict you for life, and make you fat.

Most overweight people suffer from a persistent insulin dysfunction, it'd be better described as a form of diabetes, affecting some populations worse than others.

The worst, saddest is young babies and kids, because below the age of 2 or so, it's a literally incurable lifelong addition.
 
2012-10-01 02:22:53 PM

jchic: So, items with 17-20+ grams of fat are healthy? And people wonder why they are fat.


Consuming fat doesn't make you fat.
 
2012-10-01 02:26:36 PM

bsharitt: It seems they've confused "not a bajillion calories" with healthy.


They also fail by not mentioning portion sizes. Only 300 calories might sound great but if that comes in 100 grams of "food" I'll still consume over a 1000 calories just to get enough to make me feel full.
 
2012-10-01 02:28:00 PM

pieterh: You can eat as much butter, cheese, bread (brown is better, fibre is good), meat, salt, fish, vegetables as you want, you will *not* get fat nor high cholesterol.


One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just DOESN'T belong.

Fibre is great, but bread is lousy delivery vehicle for it.
 
2012-10-01 02:30:33 PM

bsharitt: The meat is frozen, but they do cook it fresh on site.


At McD's last week and saw one of the Mexicans who now run the place, go to the cooler, bring out a plastic bag with cooked meat patties, open it and dump it into a holder at the food prep line. She then grabbed a patty, put it on a bun squirted on some catsup, mustard and a few onions and zapped it in the microwave for five seconds. They may cook them where you eat, but they don't anywhere around here anymore.
 
2012-10-01 02:31:24 PM

Hebalo: pieterh: You can eat as much butter, cheese, bread (brown is better, fibre is good), meat, salt, fish, vegetables as you want, you will *not* get fat nor high cholesterol.

One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just DOESN'T belong.

Fibre is great, but bread is lousy delivery vehicle for it.


Shhh... Quiet now... The more of them that die the sooner we can claim their treasures
 
2012-10-01 02:32:58 PM
Russ1642

Hebalo: List doesn't show Carb amounts, and thus fails. Fat don't make you fat, bread makes you fat.

Eating fat doesn't make you fat? What flavour kool-aid have you been drinking?

Sounds like the Kool-Aid this guy mixed....
www.hypnosishome.com
before dropping dead of a massive heart-attack and weighed 258 pounds at death.
 
2012-10-01 02:41:16 PM

Hebalo: Fibre is great, but bread is lousy delivery vehicle for it.


With all respect: bread (brown), rice, pasta, cracked wheat, maize, beans, these are all safe even in large quantities, which is why most of the agricultural world remained short and skinny until the introduction of high-protein high-sugar western foods. The worst you'll get from a high-starch diet is protein deficiency if you don't get all amino acids.

You can live on brown bread and cheese and no matter how much you eat, no matter how little exercise you do, you will not get overweight.

It's quite simple: in a normal digestive system (not damaged by sugar), you get full and stop eating.
 
2012-10-01 02:42:40 PM

Hebalo: WarszawaScream: Hebalo: WarszawaScream: YOU make you fat. Stop eating all that shiat and you won't get fat.

Alcohol doesn't make you an Alcoholic, YOU make you and alcoholic. Stop drinking and you won't be an alcoholic?

Are we really, after decades of bad nutritional advice bought and paid for by the people who brought you high fructose corn syrup and subsidies on corn and grain, going to blame personal weakness on the obesity crisis?

Too easy.

Oh my God please tell me I'm just being trolled and you really don't think that a person can blame their fatness on everybody but themselves.

I know I'm fat! I know I don't need to eat that pizza today. I know I could have just as easily gone and ordered the salad! But I wanted the pizza. My coworkers didn't whisper EAT THE PIZZA. The pizzaman didn't say "Why, you don't want that salad Tubby,you want the pizza instead!" Television didn't report that YOU WANT PIZZA on the weather this morning, the smiling lady in the Kraft Mac N Cheese commercial didn't say "Why not have pizza instead?" and the billboard I passed on my way to work advertising pizza didn't convince me "YOU NEED TO HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH. YOU WILL HAVE PIZZA FOR LUNCH."

I sat back in my chair at noon, I looked at the ceilling, and I thought about what I wanted for lunch. And I decided "...you know what? I want some pizza."

That was all me, baby.

That was your body convincing you that the best way to get easily broken down carbs was to think about pizza more. It was closely followed by a release of insulin in to your bloodstream, preparing your body to start storing all that lovely sugar. Which also had the effect of making you hungrier still.

I'm not saying there is no room for personal choice. I'm saying if it was as easy as you say, 2/3 of the US wouldn't be technically obsese.

"People don't get fat because they eat too much, they eat too much because they're getting fat"


Please. There is an ever growing cult of "it's not my fault" in this country, manifested in most of the problems our society faces - obesity, excess debt/subprime debacle, medicare/medicaid, etc.. People need to take a little more responsibility for their actions.

I agree there are many, many people out there looking to prey on your ignorance or lack of discipline, and yes they are scum, but encouraging this idea that there's always someone else to blame just enables and reinforces the cycle.

There's only two ways out of this societal death spiral - make laws to stop the predators (a futile battle, they're worse than cockroaches) or encourage people to stop blaming others and take responsibility by changing their behavior and resisting the predators.

If someone's got a Plan C, I'd love to hear it.
 
2012-10-01 02:47:04 PM
Well, it's an article from a mens' magazine. There probably are men in the world who, at six feet two inches and with a naturally high metabolism combined with regular exercise, can indulge in these "healthier" treats on a semi-regular basis without becoming rotund. The same advice would kill the average female.
 
2012-10-01 02:48:42 PM

OnlyM3: efore dropping dead of a massive heart-attack and weighed 258 pounds at death.


Or he hit his head, was 195 when he was taken to the hospital, and was in a coma for a couple of weeks.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/doctor/atkins.asp


I'm not an Atkins follower. But he was certainly on the right track.
 
2012-10-01 02:50:22 PM

Priapetic: If someone's got a Plan C, I'd love to hear it.


Proper education about nutrition, and research not funded by food producers.
 
2012-10-01 02:56:30 PM
Last month I ate at a Long John Silver's for the first time since I was a young child. Had to be 30 years, or close to it. I was basically a blank slate, since I didn't remember anything about the menu other than vague concepts of "fish" and "hush puppies."

Upon tasting the fare, I determined that this is a restaurant whose entire business model appears to be trying to answer the question, "What happens if we deep-fry the color white?"

I have pretty low standards if I'm eating out. I'll eat most anything from anywhere, and not worry about it too much (I eat well at home and get plenty of exercise). If I get something from a fast food joint, all I want is for it to be filling and reasonably tasty. LJS is, without a doubt, the most flavorless pile of failure I have ever had at any restaurant of any type. The breading on the fish even managed to negate the acidic tang from the malt vinegar. How the fark do you do that? That's like adding negative flavor.
 
2012-10-01 02:57:53 PM

Hebalo: Priapetic: If someone's got a Plan C, I'd love to hear it.

Proper education about nutrition, and research not funded by food producers.


And exactly why can't people do that for themselves? I'm sorry, but it's not that hard to figure out that fast food, 2 gallons of soda a day and a bucket of ice cream every night is not healthy for you. Nutrition about education is not the problem. People's inability to delay gratification (food rush now versus weight control over time) is the problem.
 
2012-10-01 02:59:20 PM

Hebalo: Priapetic: If someone's got a Plan C, I'd love to hear it.

Proper education about nutrition, and research not funded by food producers.


Although I do agree that better research not funded by food producers would be a good thing, having it would just make minor improvements, not the major ones our society needs.
 
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