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(Washington Post)   "Parts of Europe are facing a period of economic and political upheaval that some liken to the disenchantment of the 1930s, when the Nazis rose to power" You know who else rose to power in such times?   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 116
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2012-10-01 09:45:48 AM  

dittybopper: Father_Jack: or if Wilson had had a pair and not just preached idealism, but actually followed thru and kept the french and brits to task.

And how would he have done that? It's not like he could have strong-armed them into accepting something, even if he was a stronger leader.


kind of a big question as there were many areas in which the US had the right idea but we're "out diplomated" by the more experienced diplomats of the other members of the Entente. But consider the "King Crane Commission", which surveyed the arab lands of the former Ottoman empire and made recommendations on how to divy up the Arab world after the Turks withdrew.

They recommended self determination and liberalism etc etc all good american values and then... let the french and british carve it up and indeed buried the report.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King-Crane_Commission

this british/french colonial occupation of the mideast is STILL causing problems to this day! What a missed chance, yknow? There were similar mistakes done with the germans too with far greater consequences,

the US did the exact right thing with the commission... and then didnt stand up for it or push it, and let the french and british have their way and went back across the atlantic. Wilson's idealism was great, his follow thru not so much.
 
2012-10-01 09:46:18 AM  
Osman I?
 
2012-10-01 09:46:20 AM  

Tatterdemalian: //The same pattern is occurring in all the "Arab Spring" nations, and will be coming to Europe soon


Translation: I am afraid of brown people and like to talk sh*t about places I only know through what I hear from Pam Geller.

There is a rising problem in much of Europe. But, no, it isn't Islamofacism. It's paranoid white Christians seeking to preempt their bigoted fears.
 
2012-10-01 09:46:46 AM  

Tatterdemalian: Mocking the messenger won't change the outcome of your "progressive" policies.


Man, talk about tough to please. I give the guy the happy ending he came for and he's still complaining.

dittybopper: Ocnarf Ocsicnarf?


Now you've done it. You've summoned the Ocsicnarf. May God have mercy upon us all, for yea, you have none you ignorant douchebag.
 
2012-10-01 09:47:07 AM  

Zukipilot: Your Mom?


THIS. This is always the answer to almost any "who" question. Well played you magnificient bastard.
 
2012-10-01 09:47:35 AM  
Its gotta be one of these people........Famous People Born in 1930

My money is on Vigdís Finnbogadóttir. A name like that just screams economic upheaval.
 
2012-10-01 09:49:00 AM  

Tatterdemalian: //The same pattern is occurring in all the "Arab Spring" nations, and will be coming to Europe soon


yeah coz the situation in the middle east is EXACLTY like europe. *rolls eyes*

frankly i think the US is a lot closer to politically motivated violence than europe. and we've got the guns and the derp to make it bloody, too.
 
2012-10-01 09:49:03 AM  

Tatterdemalian: 1. Take away the peoples' right to defend themselves
2. Refuse to protect them when they are attacked, using twisted logic to pretend the victims are somehow at fault for offending the attackers
3. Act horrified at the predictable methods the people take to defend themselves under the incentive system you've set up, up to and including abandoning all pretenses of civilization and morality

/profit for progressive liberals!
//well, actually the totalitarian dictators get the profit, and the liberals who put them in power don't even get a "thank you"


What's it like, being a pants-wetting coward with a small package?
 
2012-10-01 09:51:11 AM  
Margaret Mitchell?
 
2012-10-01 09:51:23 AM  

dittybopper: Ocnarf Ocsicnarf?


Poit!

api.ning.com
 
2012-10-01 09:51:24 AM  

Tatterdemalian: 1. Take away the peoples' right to defend themselves
2. Refuse to protect them when they are attacked, using twisted logic to pretend the victims are somehow at fault for offending the attackers
3. Act horrified at the predictable methods the people take to defend themselves under the incentive system you've set up, up to and including abandoning all pretenses of civilization and morality

/profit for progressive liberals!
//well, actually the totalitarian dictators get the profit, and the liberals who put them in power don't even get a "thank you"


This. This. And This.
 
2012-10-01 09:51:40 AM  
Lupus?!?! Is it lupus?!?!?
 
2012-10-01 09:53:46 AM  

homelessdude: Its gotta be one of these people........Famous People Born in 1930

My money is on Vigdís Finnbogadóttir. A name like that just screams economic upheaval.


because people always rise to power before age 10.
 
2012-10-01 09:53:53 AM  

jaybeezey: Lupus?!?! Is it lupus?!?!?


It is never Lupas.
 
2012-10-01 09:55:45 AM  

SlothB77: homelessdude: Its gotta be one of these people........Famous People Born in 1930

My money is on Vigdís Finnbogadóttir. A name like that just screams economic upheaval.

because people always rise to power before age 10.


It worked for Grover Norquist.
 
2012-10-01 09:56:16 AM  

ChuDogg: Tatterdemalian: 1. Take away the peoples' right to defend themselves
2. Refuse to protect them when they are attacked, using twisted logic to pretend the victims are somehow at fault for offending the attackers
3. Act horrified at the predictable methods the people take to defend themselves under the incentive system you've set up, up to and including abandoning all pretenses of civilization and morality

/profit for progressive liberals!
//well, actually the totalitarian dictators get the profit, and the liberals who put them in power don't even get a "thank you"

This. This. And This.


It's absolutely amazing just how many mouth breathing retards there are ego are capable of doing more with a computer and internet access that banging their heads against the keyboard on Free Republic.
 
2012-10-01 09:58:46 AM  

ghare: Tatterdemalian: 1. Take away the peoples' right to defend themselves
2. Refuse to protect them when they are attacked, using twisted logic to pretend the victims are somehow at fault for offending the attackers
3. Act horrified at the predictable methods the people take to defend themselves under the incentive system you've set up, up to and including abandoning all pretenses of civilization and morality

/profit for progressive liberals!
//well, actually the totalitarian dictators get the profit, and the liberals who put them in power don't even get a "thank you"

What's it like, being a pants-wetting coward with a small package?


Translation: You are right and I can't address what you just said, so I will just insult you to help keep my unfounded world view firmly in place in my mind.

/quit getting your political views from the "its a small world" ride at disney land.
 
2012-10-01 09:59:34 AM  
Dick Tracy?
 
2012-10-01 10:00:07 AM  
Hank Rearden?
 
2012-10-01 10:00:50 AM  
There is a rising problem in much of Europe. But, no, it isn't Islamofacism. It's paranoid white Christians seeking to preempt their bigoted fears.

The Islamication of sections of London and various other parts of Britain and suburbs of Paris is not fear but fact. Areas of Europe are IN FACT No Go zones for white Europeans and especially western women. That is fact. Not fear.

The Euro-Islamic civil war IS coming. I estimated 10-15 years. This current financial crisis may be speeding up the timetable. native Europeans are quite nasty once you get them stirred up. Ask the Jews.
 
2012-10-01 10:01:20 AM  
Joe Dimagio?
 
2012-10-01 10:01:21 AM  
Mike Hawk?
 
2012-10-01 10:03:05 AM  

jaybeezey: Lupus?!?! Is it lupus?!?!?


cdn3.sbnation.com
 
2012-10-01 10:03:56 AM  
Good question Subby.

Hmm, your Grandma? They didn't call her, "Port of call Patty," for nothing! Her specialty move was the Good Ship Lollipop.
 
2012-10-01 10:05:58 AM  

mark12A: There is a rising problem in much of Europe. But, no, it isn't Islamofacism. It's paranoid white Christians seeking to preempt their bigoted fears.

The Islamication of sections of London and various other parts of Britain and suburbs of Paris is not fear but fact. Areas of Europe are IN FACT No Go zones for white Europeans and especially western women. That is fact. Not fear.

The Euro-Islamic civil war IS coming. I estimated 10-15 years. This current financial crisis may be speeding up the timetable. native Europeans are quite nasty once you get them stirred up. Ask the Jews.


9 years and 7 months IMHO
 
2012-10-01 10:07:49 AM  
Dick Cheney. 

//No, wait, wasn't he already in his 80's by then?
 
2012-10-01 10:12:25 AM  

mark12A: There is a rising problem in much of Europe. But, no, it isn't Islamofacism. It's paranoid white Christians seeking to preempt their bigoted fears.

The Islamication of sections of London and various other parts of Britain and suburbs of Paris is not fear but fact. Areas of Europe are IN FACT No Go zones for white Europeans and especially western women. That is fact. Not fear.

The Euro-Islamic civil war IS coming. I estimated 10-15 years. This current financial crisis may be speeding up the timetable. native Europeans are quite nasty once you get them stirred up. Ask the Jews.


yes, because the only inevitable conclusion of the pendjulum having swung too far in certain muslim immigrant neighborhoods is violent revolution followed by nazi style holocaust. im so glad youve figured this all out for those of us living in europe and deal with muslims daily. your jihadwatch newsletter is keeping you well informed i see! well done.

clearly, there's no chance for gradual peaceful rapprochment or a gradual improvement of the policies of the govts which have large muslim communities to better integrate them, or that the radicals will gain less traction as time passes and the children of the communities integrate, educate, adopt the values of the new homeland and gradulally become european the way immigrants throughout history have always done. nope, the muzzies are different. persuing a combination of police work and legislation to watch and muzzle the firebreathers coupled with improving integration policy and economic opportunities for immigrants is not the answer. Not at all. its death, death, death.

Quite right. the honor killings and shocking stories you read are indeed FACT and REALITY for all the darkies here, is the norm not the exception, and it will come to end in blood because that is how things are and not just the extent of your understanding of civics and history.
 
2012-10-01 10:15:21 AM  

Father_Jack: mark12A: There is a rising problem in much of Europe. But, no, it isn't Islamofacism. It's paranoid white Christians seeking to preempt their bigoted fears.

The Islamication of sections of London and various other parts of Britain and suburbs of Paris is not fear but fact. Areas of Europe are IN FACT No Go zones for white Europeans and especially western women. That is fact. Not fear.

The Euro-Islamic civil war IS coming. I estimated 10-15 years. This current financial crisis may be speeding up the timetable. native Europeans are quite nasty once you get them stirred up. Ask the Jews.

yes, because the only inevitable conclusion of the pendjulum having swung too far in certain muslim immigrant neighborhoods is violent revolution followed by nazi style holocaust. im so glad youve figured this all out for those of us living in europe and deal with muslims daily. your jihadwatch newsletter is keeping you well informed i see! well done.

clearly, there's no chance for gradual peaceful rapprochment or a gradual improvement of the policies of the govts which have large muslim communities to better integrate them, or that the radicals will gain less traction as time passes and the children of the communities integrate, educate, adopt the values of the new homeland and gradulally become european the way immigrants throughout history have always done. nope, the muzzies are different. persuing a combination of police work and legislation to watch and muzzle the firebreathers coupled with improving integration policy and economic opportunities for immigrants is not the answer. Not at all. its death, death, death.

Quite right. the honor killings and shocking stories you read are indeed FACT and REALITY for all the darkies here, is the norm not the exception, and it will come to end in blood because that is how things are and not just the extent of your understanding of civics and history.


There is not, they are not trying to integrate or be educated. You keep using these words without examining how they are being applied, and they are not being applied. Radical Islam is GROWING not shrinking. Immigrants to western civilization are not seeking to blend with our culture, but are seeking seclusion while establishing their own.

100 articles, news reports, riots, protests, and murders later and you are still spouting the same played out fantasy bullshiat. You sure you do not got a religion? Your world view sure seems like one.
 
2012-10-01 10:26:17 AM  
Tatterdemalian: 1. Take away the peoples' right to defend themselves
2. Refuse to protect them when they are attacked, using twisted logic to pretend the victims are somehow at fault for offending the attackers
3. Act horrified at the predictable methods the people take to defend themselves under the incentive system you've set up, up to and including abandoning all pretenses of civilization and morality


Well that's how it feels here in GB, And yes, there are uncomfortable parallels with the 30s. Not least the fact that Liberal* Democracy gives voters the impression of being more interested in making abstract theories into concrete reality over basics such as equality before the law and keeping big organisations on the straight and narrow.

/*No that word does not mean what you think it does US right wingers. Just say what you mean damn it, if you mean Left Wing just say so! And American leftists: stop trying to pass yourself off as "Liberals"when you're not! It's dishonest.
//Sorry about that, had to vent. Do go on.
 
2012-10-01 10:30:16 AM  

Tatterdemalian: 1. Take away the peoples' right to defend themselves
2. Refuse to protect them when they are attacked, using twisted logic to pretend the victims are somehow at fault for offending the attackers
3. Act horrified at the predictable methods the people take to defend themselves under the incentive system you've set up, up to and including abandoning all pretenses of civilization and morality

/profit for progressive liberals!
//well, actually the totalitarian dictators get the profit, and the liberals who put them in power don't even get a "thank you"


Obama hasn't taken your guns.


BUT HE COULD!

So vote Derpublican. Again.
 
2012-10-01 10:30:50 AM  

dragonchild: dittybopper: Ocnarf Ocsicnarf?

Now you've done it. You've summoned the Ocsicnarf. May God have mercy upon us all, for yea, you have none you ignorant douchebag.


I'm funny that way.
 
2012-10-01 10:33:12 AM  
The Marx Brothers?
 
2012-10-01 10:39:39 AM  

chooktah: The Marx Brothers?


They were comrades, not brothers
/brothers in pens maybe
 
2012-10-01 10:45:15 AM  
Voldemort?
 
2012-10-01 10:47:45 AM  
Franklin Roosevelt!
 
2012-10-01 10:48:05 AM  
Popojijo!
 
2012-10-01 10:48:49 AM  

atomicmask: Father_Jack: mark12A: There is a rising problem in much of Europe. But, no, it isn't Islamofacism. It's paranoid white Christians seeking to preempt their bigoted fears.

The Islamication of sections of London and various other parts of Britain and suburbs of Paris is not fear but fact. Areas of Europe are IN FACT No Go zones for white Europeans and especially western women. That is fact. Not fear.

The Euro-Islamic civil war IS coming. I estimated 10-15 years. This current financial crisis may be speeding up the timetable. native Europeans are quite nasty once you get them stirred up. Ask the Jews.

yes, because the only inevitable conclusion of the pendjulum having swung too far in certain muslim immigrant neighborhoods is violent revolution followed by nazi style holocaust. im so glad youve figured this all out for those of us living in europe and deal with muslims daily. your jihadwatch newsletter is keeping you well informed i see! well done.

clearly, there's no chance for gradual peaceful rapprochment or a gradual improvement of the policies of the govts which have large muslim communities to better integrate them, or that the radicals will gain less traction as time passes and the children of the communities integrate, educate, adopt the values of the new homeland and gradulally become european the way immigrants throughout history have always done. nope, the muzzies are different. persuing a combination of police work and legislation to watch and muzzle the firebreathers coupled with improving integration policy and economic opportunities for immigrants is not the answer. Not at all. its death, death, death.

Quite right. the honor killings and shocking stories you read are indeed FACT and REALITY for all the darkies here, is the norm not the exception, and it will come to end in blood because that is how things are and not just the extent of your understanding of civics and history.H
There is not, they are not trying to integrate or be educated. You keep u ...


Check your privelege dude. Maybe if white Europeans weren't hell bent on conquering and exploiting indigenous populations around the globe they wouldn't even have immigration. What you are seeing is the inevitable result of decades of neo-colonialist policies stirring up a hornets nest and causing a massive human rights catotrophe, its only natural these immigrants are drawn to the areas whose wealth were taken off their backs. It just so happens these immigrants are put to work doing the hard work lazy whites don't want to do anymore.

No, these immigrants will NOT assimilate, nor should they. When whites are the minority they will be asled to assimilate into the immigrant communities and hopefully abandon their own wreckless and greedy cultured that has caused so much poverty and starvation world wide. Maybe then the peoples of the world can link togethor in common bond, we tried to get you guys to change on your own accord amd you refused. If the elimination of white Europeans is what it takes then so be it. Numbers do not lie. You are in a demographic countdown. My advice to you is to learn to play nice and beg for forgiveness.
 
2012-10-01 10:56:18 AM  

ChuDogg: Check your privelege dude. Maybe if white Europeans weren't hell bent on conquering and exploiting indigenous populations around the globe they wouldn't even have immigration. What you are seeing is the inevitable result of decades of neo-colonialist policies stirring up a hornets nest and causing a massive human rights catotrophe, its only natural these immigrants are drawn to the areas whose wealth were taken off their backs. It just so happens these immigrants are put to work doing the hard work lazy whites don't want to do anymore.

No, these immigrants will NOT assimilate, nor should they. When whites are the minority they will be asled to assimilate into the immigrant communities and hopefully abandon their own wreckless and greedy cultured that has caused so much poverty and starvation world wide. Maybe then the peoples of the world can link togethor in common bond, we tried to get you guys to change on your own accord amd you refused. If the elimination of white Europeans is what it takes then so be it. Numbers do not lie. You are in a demographic countdown. My advice to you is to learn to play nice and beg for forgiveness.


lol at blaming white people for 3rd world shiatholes not bothering to build infrastructure or better their societies.
 
2012-10-01 10:57:17 AM  

atomicmask: There is not, they are not trying to integrate or be educated. You keep using these words without examining how they are being applied, and they are not being applied. Radical Islam is GROWING not shrinking. Immigrants to western civilization are not seeking to blend with our culture, but are seeking seclusion while establishing their own.

100 articles, news reports, riots, protests, and murders later and you are still spouting the same played out fantasy bullshiat. You sure you do not got a religion? Your world view sure seems like one.


europes integration of muslims is its biggest social problem this generation, for sure.

and yeah what youre saying is true but dude its not the whole picture, even by a long shot. you live in phoenix, i used to live there too. what youre saying basically is "those mexicans are all in ms13 and refusing to speak english, how many murders etc etc must there be till you see it!"

well, yeah, that element *does* exist, but its hardly the universal truth.

for one, europe is diverse, and their muslims are diverse, too. The different govts here have taken different approaches at dealing with their immigrant communities with varying degrees of success; some of the muslim immigrants have integrated better (like the turks), others have been very reluctant to unfark their thinking and westernize (rural arabs).

France has these muslim ghettos where they try to change the local govts to sharia and have that sort of stuff that makes westerneers cringe; they also have been absorbing large numbers of algerians moroccans and tuniseans since the 50s, and huge numbers of them are as french as any frenchman who's grandfather was born in Bretagne even if their family stems from the Maghreb.

Germanys turks are not really a "muslim christian" issue, theirs is more of a simple immigrant vs original community issue very similar to the mexican issues we have in the SW of the US... but germans arabs are a bigger issue.

anyways point is, the "muslim integration experience" varies tremendously from country to country, immigrant group to immigrant group, with varying degrees of successful integration. You cant paint it with the same brush and and not sound ill informed, sorry.

is it a big social issue? hells yeah. is it gonna take a long time to fix? yep. Is it like that other dumbass said destined to end in bloody holocaust? Ninja please. You guys need to step away from the Right Wing Froth-o-meter.
 
2012-10-01 11:01:11 AM  

ChuDogg: Check your privelege dude. Maybe if white Europeans weren't hell bent on conquering and exploiting indigenous populations around the globe they wouldn't even have immigration. What you are seeing is the inevitable result of decades of neo-colonialist policies stirring up a hornets nest and causing a massive human rights catotrophe, its only natural these immigrants are drawn to the areas whose wealth were taken off their backs. It just so happens these immigrants are put to work doing the hard work lazy whites don't want to do anymore.

No, these immigrants will NOT assimilate, nor should they. When whites are the minority they will be asled to assimilate into the immigrant communities and hopefully abandon their own wreckless and greedy cultured that has caused so much poverty and starvation world wide. Maybe then the peoples of the world can link togethor in common bond, we tried to get you guys to change on your own accord amd you refused. If the elimination of white Europeans is what it takes then so be it. Numbers do not lie. You are in a demographic countdown. My advice to you is to learn to play nice and beg for forgiveness.


Awesome white man's guilt, dude.

And you should read up on the ottomans. The arabs have never been their own masters. If this "we get what's comeing to us" was true, the arabs would all settle in syria and turkey and take back 500 years of "stolen tribute" the sultans took off the arabs long before the European powers took an interest in their territory (which by contrast is quite recent...mid 19th century).
 
2012-10-01 11:03:03 AM  
anyways point is, the "muslim integration experience" varies tremendously from country to country, immigrant group to immigrant group, with varying degrees of successful integration. You cant paint it with the same brush and and not sound ill informed, sorry.

is it a big social issue? hells yeah. is it gonna take a long time to fix? yep. Is it like that other dumbass said destined to end in bloody holocaust? Ninja please. You guys need to step away from the Right Wing Froth-o-meter.


We'll see, won't we? The beauty part is, whatever way it goes, it will manifest in Europe before America. Then we'll see if Farkistan will rally to save its beer, boobies and bacon from the savages....
 
2012-10-01 11:03:28 AM  

reimanr06: I don't think we need fear another Hitler at this time. Sure, the economy sucks, but none of the major European powers have recently exhausted their national resources, suffered a serious injury to national pride, been hit with crippling sanctions by their victorious archnemesis, and then had to face Zimbabwean hyperinflation with an ineffective government.


In a much-quoted passage, he says supporters of eurobonds are driven "by that very German reflex according to which atonement for the holocaust and the world wars will never be complete until we have delivered our entire public interest, and even our money, into European hands." This title has raced to the top of best-seller lists and sent jittery markets into panic.

Is Germany being bled again to pay for its sins?

Iran, on the other hand...
 
2012-10-01 11:11:02 AM  

Teutonic_Knight: Charles de Gaulle?


somedude210: Winston Churchill?


Both of these are after France bites the dust.
 
2012-10-01 11:12:15 AM  

Father_Jack: atomicmask: There is not, they are not trying to integrate or be educated. You keep using these words without examining how they are being applied, and they are not being applied. Radical Islam is GROWING not shrinking. Immigrants to western civilization are not seeking to blend with our culture, but are seeking seclusion while establishing their own.

100 articles, news reports, riots, protests, and murders later and you are still spouting the same played out fantasy bullshiat. You sure you do not got a religion? Your world view sure seems like one.


europes integration of muslims is its biggest social problem this generation, for sure.

and yeah what youre saying is true but dude its not the whole picture, even by a long shot. you live in phoenix, i used to live there too. what youre saying basically is "those mexicans are all in ms13 and refusing to speak english, how many murders etc etc must there be till you see it!"

well, yeah, that element *does* exist, but its hardly the universal truth.

for one, europe is diverse, and their muslims are diverse, too. The different govts here have taken different approaches at dealing with their immigrant communities with varying degrees of success; some of the muslim immigrants have integrated better (like the turks), others have been very reluctant to unfark their thinking and westernize (rural arabs).

France has these muslim ghettos where they try to change the local govts to sharia and have that sort of stuff that makes westerneers cringe; they also have been absorbing large numbers of algerians moroccans and tuniseans since the 50s, and huge numbers of them are as french as any frenchman who's grandfather was born in Bretagne even if their family stems from the Maghreb.

Germanys turks are not really a "muslim christian" issue, theirs is more of a simple immigrant vs original community issue very similar to the mexican issues we have in the SW of the US... but germans arabs are a bigger issue.

anyways point is, the ...


The problem is that time and time again, when an area reaches a certain level of muslims, they switch from coexistance to islam dominance. Sweden, france, germany, all as you have named, do not have coexistance, but rather self imposed isolation until numbers are high enough, and then they start attempting to dominate the native populations. There is no such thing as a liberal muslim, their is only a muslim pretending till time is right.

I think things will end with another massive war, a crusade if you will. But instead of christianity vs islam, it will be the world vs islam. Buddhist temples burnt today, atheists jailed and executed in Indonesia, blasphemy laws purposed in the UN, not a single bit of this lends any credence to a civilized world involving muslims. They are trying to make QUESTIONING islam illegal and a hate crime...This is moderate muslims mind you, not just the extremists.
 
2012-10-01 11:24:23 AM  

Tatterdemalian: 1. Take away the peoples' right to defend themselves
2. Refuse to protect them when they are attacked, using twisted logic to pretend the victims are somehow at fault for offending the attackers
3. Act horrified at the predictable methods the people take to defend themselves under the incentive system you've set up, up to and including abandoning all pretenses of civilization and morality

/profit for progressive liberals!
//well, actually the totalitarian dictators get the profit, and the liberals who put them in power don't even get a "thank you"


Because yes, the SA Brownshirts were FDR's idea.
 
2012-10-01 11:25:47 AM  

atomicmask: Father_Jack: atomicmask: There is not, they are not trying to integrate or be educated. You keep using these words without examining how they are being applied, and they are not being applied. Radical Islam is GROWING not shrinking. Immigrants to western civilization are not seeking to blend with our culture, but are seeking seclusion while establishing their own.

100 articles, news reports, riots, protests, and murders later and you are still spouting the same played out fantasy bullshiat. You sure you do not got a religion? Your world view sure seems like one.


europes integration of muslims is its biggest social problem this generation, for sure.

and yeah what youre saying is true but dude its not the whole picture, even by a long shot. you live in phoenix, i used to live there too. what youre saying basically is "those mexicans are all in ms13 and refusing to speak english, how many murders etc etc must there be till you see it!"

well, yeah, that element *does* exist, but its hardly the universal truth.

for one, europe is diverse, and their muslims are diverse, too. The different govts here have taken different approaches at dealing with their immigrant communities with varying degrees of success; some of the muslim immigrants have integrated better (like the turks), others have been very reluctant to unfark their thinking and westernize (rural arabs).

France has these muslim ghettos where they try to change the local govts to sharia and have that sort of stuff that makes westerneers cringe; they also have been absorbing large numbers of algerians moroccans and tuniseans since the 50s, and huge numbers of them are as french as any frenchman who's grandfather was born in Bretagne even if their family stems from the Maghreb.

Germanys turks are not really a "muslim christian" issue, theirs is more of a simple immigrant vs original community issue very similar to the mexican issues we have in the SW of the US... but germans arabs are a bigger issue.

anyways ...


arago4.tnw.utwente.nl
 
2012-10-01 11:26:29 AM  
So are the Bushes going to start investing in German armament manufacturers again?
 
2012-10-01 11:28:52 AM  

Tatterdemalian: 1. Take away the peoples' right to defend themselves
2. Refuse to protect them when they are attacked, using twisted logic to pretend the victims are somehow at fault for offending the attackers
3. Act horrified at the predictable methods the people take to defend themselves under the incentive system you've set up, up to and including abandoning all pretenses of civilization and morality

/profit for progressive liberals!
//well, actually the totalitarian dictators get the profit, and the liberals who put them in power don't even get a "thank you"


It's true. Liberals are known for proclaiming the Jews were at fault for causing World War 2.
 
2012-10-01 12:10:36 PM  

JerseyTim: Benny Goodman?


The tragic fact is if the world had only done something about Glen Gray early on, Goodman could have been stopped in time.
 
2012-10-01 12:15:00 PM  

Father_Jack: Zukipilot: Your Mom?

THIS. This is always the answer to almost any "who" question. Well played you magnificient bastard.


It had to be that or GD Hippies.....
 
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