The One True TheDavid: Kazan:Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (Edition V) (the next edition of THE BOOK on mental illness) on the specifically states that BDSM falls well within the range of "normal" human psychology. so grow up, trolls.Oh right, because I should live my life according to a handbook for labeling "mental problems" so HMOs will pay the bills.Sheesh.Please subscribe me to your Ignore list too.
BronyMedic: jaylectricity: After "explaining" the scene, he validates it by saying he's been there for 20 years. The scene.So he's been playing kinky with an established group of consenting adults, or with a consenting adult partner, for 20 years, but in your mind he doesn't know what he's talking about because he uses lingo that would be expected of people talking to other people who are in that group?Pro-Tip: People who are into BDSM refer to it as a "scene" normally, because it lets them talk about liking being tied up and gone to town on without most people who are not into public or group kink knowing what they are talking about.jaylectricity: That's close enough to give some credence to what Rent Party is saying.Rent Party has been Tu Quo Quo trolling from the beginning. The fact that you're white knighting someone who's calling other people out on their supposedly "hipster" behavior, while claiming to be part of the "normals" is deliciously ironic.jaylectricity: clyph: When I saw all the interest in 50 Shades of Grey I was like "LOL newbs".If you take your ideas and images about the BDSM-practicing community of consensual adults from a book who's main character, Christian Gray, is only into BDSM because it gives him an excuse - in the author's own words - to legally physically and sexually abuse women because he himself was emotionally, physically, and sexually abused as a child by his family - then you deserve to be laughed at. Imagine that, people who have consensually decided to have a relationship which implements elements of power exchange would be offended by that characterization, which is a complete myth.How dare he not like people portraying him as a power hungry abuser. The nerve of him!jaylectricity: clyph: No one in the scene would judge you for setting your limits according to your own comfort level;Because telling someone you don't want to have needles piercing your nipples in a play scene is the same as taking your ideas about what BDSM is actually about from a book which characterizes dominant males in the BDSM lifestyle as abusers, amirite?jaylectricity: Who knows...maybe I'll let you.Oh, I can't wait.
BronyMedic: So he's been playing kinky with an established group of consenting adults, or with a consenting adult partner, for 20 years, but in your mind he doesn't know what he's talking about because he uses lingo that would be expected of people talking to other people who are in that group?
BronyMedic: How dare he not like people portraying him as a power hungry abuser. The nerve of him!
BronyMedic: Oh, I can't wait.
The One True TheDavid: ....
jaylectricity: That there has to be a BDSM "community" and you have to be a part of it if you expect to be legitimately kinky.
jaylectricity: No, that's not what I said at all. I'm sure he knows tons of stuff.
jaylectricity: Haven't even read the books or know enough about them to know what they say about the BDSM community.
Rent Party: I'm "normals?" Care to tell me how you think you know what I do I'm my spare time?
Rent Party: Let me guess... because I find your scene pathetic, I must there fore be claiming to be normals!
Rent Party: That's an awesome example of the presumptuous arrogance I just love pointing out. Because if you're in a scene, you're special, right?Right?
BronyMedic: Then why did you call him out for being offended by a book
BronyMedic: What I do care about is how pathetically you troll.
jaylectricity: I didn't call him out for being offended by a book. Where did I say that?
Rent Party: I used to get a ration of shiat whenever I would observe that there isn't a woman on the planet that doesn't like a smack in the ass, and to be told she's pretty.This 50 Shades thing has validated my observations, and I simply refer anyone objecting to that truth to the NYT best seller's list for more information.And also, in before the hipsters telling us that whatever those people were up to wasn't *real* kink...
BronyMedic: The One True TheDavid:That doesn't mean they can't be sluts, only that they can't be submissive masochists.And the hilarious thing is that women who tend to be submissive or masochistic in the bedroom most often tend to be those in positions of power and control in real life.
BronyMedic: Rent Party: That's an awesome example of the presumptuous arrogance I just love pointing out. Because if you're in a scene, you're special, right?Do me a favor. Please quote where he claimed that. At all?
BronyMedic: That's what you're white knighting.
The One True TheDavid: If you say so. My experience was very different: for every woman "in positions of power and control in real life" there were 100 damaged little girls who'd do anything to keep Daddy's attention, and who are sure it's all really their fault for being such BAD girls.
The One True TheDavid: Uh-huh. Granted most of the submissive men I met in my long career were the kind of gay men who idolize Judy Garland, but again your experience must differ from mine. Maybe you run with an eliter elite group of perverts?
The One True TheDavid: Strong, smart, self-respecting people don't have to play games to get each other off.
The One True TheDavid: By the way, may I subscribe to your Ignore list too please?
jaylectricity: I don't mean any real offense to you, clyph. It's extremely hard to capture a person's personality based on comments they make on one specific subject on one specific website. I have to stop typing now because I want to end on a sincere note.
The One True TheDavid: Aello:Just because I'm a submissive doesn't mean I don't have self-respect. It doesn't mean I'm weak and it doesn't mean that I'm not intelligent. The Doms I know love the qualities you mention in their submissives.To me that's like saying "Just because I keep kosher, go to synagogue and wear a yarmulke doesn't mean I'm Jewish."Smart, strong people with self-respect cannot be submissive masochists. It's a contradiction in terms.However somebody can tell you you're so smart, strong and self-respecting so you'll keep coming back for twisted pseudosex.Don't get it? Then I am the son-in-law of an overthrown African dictator who'll be glad to pay you millions to help me get my loot out of the country.People say a lot of shiat. Like this one hooker tried to tell me how gorgeous and wonderful I am. I told her if that were true she should pay me. ("*crickets*")
BronyMedic: The One True TheDavid: The Muthaship:If you get your sexual kicks from inflicting pain on and exerting total control over others, you are one step below a serial killer in my book.Bingo. Very much this.Well, David. I'm glad have you. Without your opinion, we would have to listen to men and women who have made Psychiatry and Psychology their life's work.
The One True TheDavid: I don't like them either. They reinforce the System by making deviation from it and/or suffering because of it a Mental Problem they then take money to "treat."
The One True TheDavid: And I didn't apologize for pedophiles, I said you've got to remember they're people too. Like Judy Garland and Barack Obama are people. This does not mean legalize diddling 8 year olds, however; later in that thread I said pedophiles who have trouble controlling themselves should be segregated in their own "monasteries" far away from any kids. But you missed that part for some reason.
The One True TheDavid: When you make sense you agree with me; when you want to sit at the cool kids' table you insult me. Interesting.
clyph: The One True TheDavid:Please subscribe me to your block list.You are now tagged as "willfully ignorant bigot". Happy?
The One True TheDavid: The military wants to create selfless robots who get themselves blown all the hell to "serve their country."
The One True TheDavid: I couldn't afford to finish the training class back in 1983. But I've been in enough hospitals to know nursing assistants do a very valuable job. And my mother's been bedridden in a nursing home for about 10 years: a good CNA is worth his/her weight in gold, AFAIC.Your point is... what? Something to do with kinky "sex" somehow?
The One True TheDavid: They do it for pay, as a job. They don't pay to do it, nor do they get all happy and horny playing with the poopoo (at least not in my experience).You now there's a difference, don't you?
The One True TheDavid: Or are you really aroused by sucking chest wounds?
Rent Party: Baelz: Rent Party: Aello: 50 Shades is a poorly written piece of crapOf that there is no doubt.and is not accurate in portraying BDSM at all.Aaaand, my case in point.Well.. It's fantasy so what's your point? I got a lot of ideas from reading the Beauty series, and hell even some crap from the Anita Blake series have inspired me. I don't have a problem with the SoG people getting an interest in BDSM at all. I've met subs who got into this from reading Harry Potty fan fiction... Who cares how/why they got an interest.Our resident experts apparently do. Those SoG folks are just noobs, ya know. Whatever they're doing isn't *real* BDSM. Only what I'm doing is real. Look here! It says so right on my Scene Approved List of Real Stuff!
The One True TheDavid: Or are those good Christians bent on curing us from swinging both ways because Jesus really loves us?
The One True TheDavid: You show me someone who enjoys being whipped and I'll show you an idiot without self-respect.
The One True TheDavid: You show me someone who enjoys being whipped and tells everybody it proves how free and strong he is
BronyMedic: Actually, I get aroused when I get back to the station, and the 32 year old, 170lb MILF I work with decides to crawl into bed with me and tell me she has wanted to fark me since I was 20.
Tassach: Fact of the matter is that the military (at least the US military) wants to create leaders, specifically leaders who can think on their feet, adapt, and improvise.
BronyMedic: the 32 year old, 170lb MILF I work with
Gawdzila: 170 seems a little heavy for MILF territory. Is she 6'3"?
Gawdzila: 170 seems a little heavy for MILF territory. Is she 6'3"
clyph: So is she still a MILF or is she now a MIDF? (I did)
BronyMedic: Uh. No. Aside from that being all kinds of wrong to fark my coworker, that's kinda illegal to do in Tennessee on shift.
BronyMedic: The One True TheDavid:Oh right, because I should live my life according to a handbook for labeling "mental problems" so HMOs will pay the bills.Ladies and gentlemen, the Dunning-Kruger effect.
clyph: BronyMedic: Are you saying that Aello is a sock puppet for Clyph?I don't know if she's in to fisting, but I'd make her my puppet if she is :)
The One True TheDavid: No, I'm saying that BDSM is not a "natural human sexual variation that harms no one," regardless of whether anyone consents or not.People like you are why we can't have a nice anarchy. The danger isn't swastika-wavers, it's people who really believe the devious lies The Power tells them to perpetuate itself.
thebigfarker: clyph I'll be looking forward to reading about you in a future thread after you're arrested for your unsafe, reckless, and probably non-consensual behavior. And then we all get to explain AGAIN why assholes like you aren't representative of (or welcome in) the organized BDSM community.Are you really going through life beleiving there is only ONE BDSM community?
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