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2012-10-01 09:52:41 PM

The One True TheDavid: Oh right, because I should live my life according to a handbook for labeling "mental problems" so HMOs will pay the bills.


Ladies and gentlemen, the Dunning-Kruger effect.

So, please, David. Tell us why BDSM is so wrong? I'm curious.
 
2012-10-01 09:52:58 PM
Aello

did you use to post under another account? you look familiar



The One True TheDavid: Kazan:

Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (Edition V) (the next edition of THE BOOK on mental illness) on the specifically states that BDSM falls well within the range of "normal" human psychology. so grow up, trolls.

Oh right, because I should live my life according to a handbook for labeling "mental problems" so HMOs will pay the bills.

Sheesh.

Please subscribe me to your Ignore list too.


please grow up.
 
2012-10-01 09:59:06 PM
Aello:

Just because I'm a submissive doesn't mean I don't have self-respect. It doesn't mean I'm weak and it doesn't mean that I'm not intelligent. The Doms I know love the qualities you mention in their submissives.

To me that's like saying "Just because I keep kosher, go to synagogue and wear a yarmulke doesn't mean I'm Jewish."

Smart, strong people with self-respect cannot be submissive masochists. It's a contradiction in terms.

However somebody can tell you you're so smart, strong and self-respecting so you'll keep coming back for twisted pseudosex.

Don't get it? Then I am the son-in-law of an overthrown African dictator who'll be glad to pay you millions to help me get my loot out of the country.

People say a lot of shiat. Like this one hooker tried to tell me how gorgeous and wonderful I am. I told her if that were true she should pay me. ("*crickets*")
 
2012-10-01 09:59:22 PM

BronyMedic: jaylectricity: After "explaining" the scene, he validates it by saying he's been there for 20 years. The scene.

So he's been playing kinky with an established group of consenting adults, or with a consenting adult partner, for 20 years, but in your mind he doesn't know what he's talking about because he uses lingo that would be expected of people talking to other people who are in that group?

Pro-Tip: People who are into BDSM refer to it as a "scene" normally, because it lets them talk about liking being tied up and gone to town on without most people who are not into public or group kink knowing what they are talking about.

jaylectricity: That's close enough to give some credence to what Rent Party is saying.

Rent Party has been Tu Quo Quo trolling from the beginning. The fact that you're white knighting someone who's calling other people out on their supposedly "hipster" behavior, while claiming to be part of the "normals" is deliciously ironic.

jaylectricity: clyph: When I saw all the interest in 50 Shades of Grey I was like "LOL newbs".

If you take your ideas and images about the BDSM-practicing community of consensual adults from a book who's main character, Christian Gray, is only into BDSM because it gives him an excuse - in the author's own words - to legally physically and sexually abuse women because he himself was emotionally, physically, and sexually abused as a child by his family - then you deserve to be laughed at. Imagine that, people who have consensually decided to have a relationship which implements elements of power exchange would be offended by that characterization, which is a complete myth.

How dare he not like people portraying him as a power hungry abuser. The nerve of him!

jaylectricity: clyph: No one in the scene would judge you for setting your limits according to your own comfort level;

Because telling someone you don't want to have needles piercing your nipples in a play scene is the same as taking your ideas about what BDSM is actually about from a book which characterizes dominant males in the BDSM lifestyle as abusers, amirite?

jaylectricity: Who knows...maybe I'll let you.

Oh, I can't wait.


I'm "normals?" Care to tell me how you think you know what I do I'm my spare time?

Let me guess... because I find your scene pathetic, I must there fore be claiming to be normals! That's an awesome example of the presumptuous arrogance I just love pointing out. Because if you're in a scene, you're special, right?

Right?
 
2012-10-01 10:02:48 PM

BronyMedic: So he's been playing kinky with an established group of consenting adults, or with a consenting adult partner, for 20 years, but in your mind he doesn't know what he's talking about because he uses lingo that would be expected of people talking to other people who are in that group?


No, that's not what I said at all. I'm sure he knows tons of stuff.

BronyMedic: How dare he not like people portraying him as a power hungry abuser. The nerve of him!


Haven't even read the books or know enough about them to know what they say about the BDSM community.

BronyMedic: Oh, I can't wait.


I am white knighting the fact that everybody (including you) is completely missing the point of Rent Party's posts. He is calling out douchey forum behavior, and if there's anybody on this board that would recognize douchey behavior, it's RENT PARTY.
 
2012-10-01 10:04:55 PM
I can see why I'm siding with Rent Party on this. I have never ever been able to fit into any "scene" because every scene is full of a bunch of jackoffs that think they're better than everybody else.

You want to claim that I feel morally superior to those in these scenes, but the truth is, I love sour grapes. They're freaking delicious.
 
2012-10-01 10:05:01 PM

The One True TheDavid: ....


look at the little ignorant douche, isn't he precious?

where's your mommy? does she know you're out of the basement, exposure to sunlight might harm you!
 
2012-10-01 10:05:38 PM
i smell three sockpuppets. Rent Party=jaylectricity=The One True TheDavid
 
2012-10-01 10:07:34 PM

jaylectricity: That there has to be a BDSM "community" and you have to be a part of it if you expect to be legitimately kinky.


I didn't say that.

There are lots of people who are kinky without being part of the community.

If you do want to be part of a community, ANY community, you have to conform to that groups norms.

I don't care about "legitimately kinky" or not. I don't care if you use capital letters when referring to a dominant. I don't care if you call me sir or master or hey you (unless you are MY submissive and have agreed to do so). I don't care if you wear latex or leather or black denim or your street clothes. That's fluff.

"Right" and "wrong" is subjective. "Safe" and "unsafe" are objective standards, as are "consensual" and "non-consensual".

I care about people not hurting themselves or others, whether it be through ignorance or malice. I care about people being made to do things against their will. I care about sexual freedom and acts which jeopardize that freedom for everyone. I care about how the community is perceived by the public.

Yes, I do have personal opinions on some things that I find silly, immature, or ill-advised, but it's just that - an opinion, although one based on nearly 2 decades of experience, observation, and study.
 
2012-10-01 10:13:54 PM
clyph:

Kazan: just because they're a sub in he dungeon, doesn't mean they're a push over outside of it (or even outside of the scene mind you)

Usually, quite the opposite. Most subs I know actually have a crapload of responsibility and authority outside the bedroom. Submission gives them a temporary vacation from that.


Then they're weak frauds. And too stupid to know that "temporary vacation" does not have to involve whips & chains.

A vacation from being a boss would be stepping out of hierarchies, not inverting them. Your "logic" is a prime example of why I say BDSM is contrary to anarchist ethics, which are about equality. If somebody has to be the boss and somebody the bottom that doesn't qualify; that more closely resembles fascism, whose links with BDSM go back before both terms were invented.

I want a world without Masters and Slaves. Not one that eroticizes torture and degradation, however "safe" and "consensual" any given "scene" might be.
 
2012-10-01 10:14:00 PM

jaylectricity: No, that's not what I said at all. I'm sure he knows tons of stuff.


Actually, it's quite clearly what you said if you're defending RP's posts. If you were chiding him about his attitude, you should have done that in the first place.

jaylectricity: Haven't even read the books or know enough about them to know what they say about the BDSM community.


Then why did you call him out for being offended by a book which portrays the BDSM community as power-hungry abusers? Holy crap, dude.

Rent Party: I'm "normals?" Care to tell me how you think you know what I do I'm my spare time?


No. I really don't care what you do in your spare time. To be quite honest, I really don't care about you, period. You could DIAF tommorow, and I'd go about my life saying "Hmm. That was sad. Someone I didn't know from Seattle D'edIAF. I wonder what I have in the freezer for breakfast. OOOH, WAFFLES!"

I know. I'm an asshole. You totally don't have to point it out to me.

What I do care about is how pathetically you troll. I mean come on, obviously hypocritical tu quoquo concern trolling? Lingo baiting? My God, this is FARK. Not 4chan. Show some damned class. Throw some biblical quotes in there. Some Law and Order SVU psychiatry.

Rent Party: Let me guess... because I find your scene pathetic, I must there fore be claiming to be normals!


My Scene? Because I can understand why a group of people would be offended at a completely uneducated generalization which they try to correct you upon, and you seize upon it as a method of trolling them by portraying them to be maladjusted social rejects who were abused as a kid, it's my scene?

I'll let you in on a little secret: I don't want to be a part of that world. It creeps me right the hell out, and I LIKE aspects of it. But, they're consenting adults who are doing nothing wrong, and there is psychiatric and psychological research, and Supreme Court rulings, to back that

No one has tried to claim they are special. No one has tried to claim, even, they're better than you, before you decided to go greater internet farkwad on them. What they did try to do was educate you on some of the things in their subculture. You, on the other hand, decided to troll down the Ad Hominem highway.

Dude. Grow right the hell up. What they're doing doesn't affect you in the least, and they damn sure aren't going to change their practices or beliefs based the narrow-minded, misguided opinion of some FARK poster from Seattle.

Rent Party: That's an awesome example of the presumptuous arrogance I just love pointing out. Because if you're in a scene, you're special, right?

Right?


Do me a favor. Please quote where he claimed that. At all?

Just one quote? Please?

Where did he say he was "special", in your mind?
 
2012-10-01 10:18:39 PM

BronyMedic: Then why did you call him out for being offended by a book


I didn't call him out for being offended by a book. Where did I say that?

BronyMedic: What I do care about is how pathetically you troll.


So before, he was one of your favorite trolls, but now you're calling out his trolling style? Maybe we should all STFU and turn our attention on other people.
 
2012-10-01 10:22:57 PM

jaylectricity: I didn't call him out for being offended by a book. Where did I say that?


You do realize that this dialogue between Rent Party and cylph got started because cylph got offended at this little gem of a troll RP posted, right?

Rent Party: I used to get a ration of shiat whenever I would observe that there isn't a woman on the planet that doesn't like a smack in the ass, and to be told she's pretty.

This 50 Shades thing has validated my observations, and I simply refer anyone objecting to that truth to the NYT best seller's list for more information.

And also, in before the hipsters telling us that whatever those people were up to wasn't *real* kink...


That little Strawman situation that RP set up ensures that anyone who would dare be offended at the fact their sexual practices are being portrayed as enjoyed exclusively by people who, as Dominants or Tops, were sexually and physically abused in their childhood, and that those submissives or bottoms are trying to recreate that, is portrayed as a "hipster douchebag" in his own words. 

That's what you're white knighting.
 
2012-10-01 10:23:40 PM

BronyMedic: The One True TheDavid:

That doesn't mean they can't be sluts, only that they can't be submissive masochists.

And the hilarious thing is that women who tend to be submissive or masochistic in the bedroom most often tend to be those in positions of power and control in real life.


If you say so. My experience was very different: for every woman "in positions of power and control in real life" there were 100 damaged little girls who'd do anything to keep Daddy's attention, and who are sure it's all really their fault for being such BAD girls.


Submissive men are the same way. It's a "release" for them.

Uh-huh. Granted most of the submissive men I met in my long career were the kind of gay men who idolize Judy Garland, but again your experience must differ from mine. Maybe you run with an eliter elite group of perverts?


It's not about being a weak willed individual - it's a game.

Strong, smart, self-respecting people don't have to play games to get each other off.

By the way, may I subscribe to your Ignore list too please?
 
2012-10-01 10:26:44 PM

BronyMedic: Rent Party: That's an awesome example of the presumptuous arrogance I just love pointing out. Because if you're in a scene, you're special, right?

Do me a favor. Please quote where he claimed that. At all?


More Dunning-Kruger effect in action. "Relevant experience" and "presumptuous arrogance" are indistinguishable when you're ignorant and unaware. How DARE someone tell him that his ignorant, uninformed supposition is wrong!

His opinion is just as valid as anyone else's, just like a failed child actor's views on evolution are just as relevant as those of a Nobel laureate.
 
2012-10-01 10:26:57 PM

BronyMedic: That's what you're white knighting.


I know...that's what made me laugh the most. I guess it started when I realized that people don't know that Rent Party is messing around. We call it trolling, but honestly, people who post like him are sitting at their computer, farking around, probably board, so they come here and try to rile somebody up.

To me, it's a funny joke. After following the back and forth, I was sort of Patty Hearsted into white knighting because of the part where Rent Party was specifically going after clyph for being a hipster. It was making me laugh, so I had to jump in.

Sometimes the humor is in the truth.
 
2012-10-01 10:29:18 PM

BronyMedic: That's what you're white knighting.


My fault for feeding the troll a 7 course meal. Mea culpa, everyone. He's on ignore now.

/play hard, play safe
 
2012-10-01 10:29:20 PM
I don't mean any real offense to you, clyph. It's extremely hard to capture a person's personality based on comments they make on one specific subject on one specific website. I have to stop typing now because I want to end on a sincere note.
 
2012-10-01 10:30:22 PM

The One True TheDavid: If you say so. My experience was very different: for every woman "in positions of power and control in real life" there were 100 damaged little girls who'd do anything to keep Daddy's attention, and who are sure it's all really their fault for being such BAD girls.


Amazing how research shows just how full of bullcrap your claims are.

The One True TheDavid: Uh-huh. Granted most of the submissive men I met in my long career were the kind of gay men who idolize Judy Garland, but again your experience must differ from mine. Maybe you run with an eliter elite group of perverts?


Imagine that. Something else that you have no idea what you're talking about.

The One True TheDavid: Strong, smart, self-respecting people don't have to play games to get each other off.


You're right. No one should ever want to have anything else than a hummer, or good, old-fashioned Missionary Position sex, but only after they are married.

You might want to contact the mail order school you got your degree in Psychology or Human Sexuality from, and get your money back. You failed day one.

The One True TheDavid: By the way, may I subscribe to your Ignore list too please?


No. You're just too easy to prove how full of shiat you are.
 
2012-10-01 10:33:36 PM

jaylectricity: I don't mean any real offense to you, clyph. It's extremely hard to capture a person's personality based on comments they make on one specific subject on one specific website. I have to stop typing now because I want to end on a sincere note.


Thanks for that. Have a good night.
 
2012-10-01 10:34:42 PM

The One True TheDavid: Aello:

Just because I'm a submissive doesn't mean I don't have self-respect. It doesn't mean I'm weak and it doesn't mean that I'm not intelligent. The Doms I know love the qualities you mention in their submissives.

To me that's like saying "Just because I keep kosher, go to synagogue and wear a yarmulke doesn't mean I'm Jewish."

Smart, strong people with self-respect cannot be submissive masochists. It's a contradiction in terms.

However somebody can tell you you're so smart, strong and self-respecting so you'll keep coming back for twisted pseudosex.

Don't get it? Then I am the son-in-law of an overthrown African dictator who'll be glad to pay you millions to help me get my loot out of the country.

People say a lot of shiat. Like this one hooker tried to tell me how gorgeous and wonderful I am. I told her if that were true she should pay me. ("*crickets*")


what a pain loving submissive who also strong, independent and self-respecting may look like:
blog.incipeindustries.com
 
2012-10-01 10:35:15 PM

BronyMedic: The One True TheDavid: The Muthaship:

If you get your sexual kicks from inflicting pain on and exerting total control over others, you are one step below a serial killer in my book.

Bingo. Very much this.

Well, David. I'm glad have you. Without your opinion, we would have to listen to men and women who have made Psychiatry and Psychology their life's work.


I don't like them either. They reinforce the System by making deviation from it and/or suffering because of it a Mental Problem they then take money to "treat."

And I didn't apologize for pedophiles, I said you've got to remember they're people too. Like Judy Garland and Barack Obama are people. This does not mean legalize diddling 8 year olds, however; later in that thread I said pedophiles who have trouble controlling themselves should be segregated in their own "monasteries" far away from any kids. But you missed that part for some reason.

When you make sense you agree with me; when you want to sit at the cool kids' table you insult me. Interesting. How old are you, if I may ask?
 
2012-10-01 10:39:51 PM
Magorn:

If you've never expereinced it, it's hard to understand, but a healthy Dom Sub relationship is a lot like the realtionship of a drill sargeant to a recruit, From a distance it looks antagonistic and brutal, but the truth of it is that the sargeant is trying to better the recruit, make them stronger and more confident and tougher than they ever dreamed possible. Pushing limits, and pain tolerances and boundaries, when done right, shows a person that they can transcend thier self-imposed limits and be a person they've never imagined they were capable of being.

Oh brother. The military wants to create selfless robots who get themselves blown all the hell to "serve their country." You missed that part, didn't you.
 
2012-10-01 10:42:07 PM

The One True TheDavid: I don't like them either. They reinforce the System by making deviation from it and/or suffering because of it a Mental Problem they then take money to "treat."


...Let me get this straight. Because they get paid to do research in their given field, they have created a conspiracy to manipulate Evidence and Science-based Medicine to ensure they get profits, while de-listing common sexual variations which were once poorly understood and at one time - like homosexuality, listed in the DSM, which would enable them to charge MORE for MORE patients?

Your leap at mental gymastics is a form of the logical fallacy known as "poisoning the well" which earned the name of "Pharma Shill Gambit" based on it's common use among alt-medders on UseNet.

The One True TheDavid: And I didn't apologize for pedophiles, I said you've got to remember they're people too. Like Judy Garland and Barack Obama are people. This does not mean legalize diddling 8 year olds, however; later in that thread I said pedophiles who have trouble controlling themselves should be segregated in their own "monasteries" far away from any kids. But you missed that part for some reason.


Actually, you earned this FARK tag around the time of the Penn State verdict. Not recently. But, in the same venue, Barack Obama and Judy Garland aren't predatory offenders who rape the innocence and childhood of their victims.

The One True TheDavid: When you make sense you agree with me; when you want to sit at the cool kids' table you insult me. Interesting.


I can agree with you on one thing, and disagree with you on everything else. That makes me an adult capable of independent thought. The law of averages tells us that even a dense rock will have a gem in it every once and a while.
 
2012-10-01 10:44:59 PM
Take my wife's flees!

hmm that might not be the right quote
 
2012-10-01 10:50:04 PM
BronyMedic wrote to me:

You've never worked in a nursing home.

I couldn't afford to finish the training class back in 1983. But I've been in enough hospitals to know nursing assistants do a very valuable job. And my mother's been bedridden in a nursing home for about 10 years: a good CNA is worth his/her weight in gold, AFAIC.

Your point is... what? Something to do with kinky "sex" somehow?


You know the poor CNAs have to clean the old folks up after, right?

They do it for pay, as a job. They don't pay to do it, nor do they get all happy and horny playing with the poopoo (at least not in my experience).

You now there's a difference, don't you? Or are you really aroused by sucking chest wounds?

If the latter is the case you should pay them.
 
2012-10-01 10:51:36 PM

clyph: The One True TheDavid:

Please subscribe me to your block list.

You are now tagged as "willfully ignorant bigot". Happy?


From you I take that as a compliment.
 
2012-10-01 10:52:30 PM

The One True TheDavid: The military wants to create selfless robots who get themselves blown all the hell to "serve their country."


Your ignorance is showing again. You never served a day in your life, did you?

Fact of the matter is that the military (at least the US military) wants to create leaders, specifically leaders who can think on their feet, adapt, and improvise. Starting from day 1 of basic training you're learning to GIVE orders as well as TAKE them. Granted, it's slanted much more towards the taking than the giving for the first few years, but even an E-3 or E-4 can be the leader (or at least second in command) of a fireteam.
 
2012-10-01 10:55:22 PM

The One True TheDavid: I couldn't afford to finish the training class back in 1983. But I've been in enough hospitals to know nursing assistants do a very valuable job. And my mother's been bedridden in a nursing home for about 10 years: a good CNA is worth his/her weight in gold, AFAIC.

Your point is... what? Something to do with kinky "sex" somehow?


What that was meant to come off as saying was not what you saw it as. Old people fark like Jackrabbits in Assisted Living and Nursing Homes. CNAs are actually required, by the Boards of Nursing, to assist married individuals into bed with each other to have sex.

One of the expanding frontiers in STD prevention, actually, ARE assisted living and nursing homes.

The One True TheDavid: They do it for pay, as a job. They don't pay to do it, nor do they get all happy and horny playing with the poopoo (at least not in my experience).

You now there's a difference, don't you?


I never insinuated they did. What I said was that as a CNA, they have to clean the residents up AFTER they get finished with their dirty doings. Or with their one man handball games.

The One True TheDavid: Or are you really aroused by sucking chest wounds?


Actually, I get aroused when I get back to the station, and the 32 year old, 170lb MILF I work with decides to crawl into bed with me and tell me she has wanted to fark me since I was 20.

But you know what's weird? Burn patients make me hungry for Hamburgers.

/Dear Penthouse Forum. I never thought it would happen to me, but...
 
2012-10-01 10:59:55 PM
Look, BronyMedic, there's often a difference between what people say they think and what they really think. Or are those good Christians bent on curing us from swinging both ways because Jesus really loves us?

You show me someone who enjoys being whipped and I'll show you an idiot without self-respect. You show me someone who enjoys being whipped and tells everybody it proves how free and strong he is and I'll show you an idiot without self-respect and with a silly line of convoluted bullshiat, which is even worse.
 
2012-10-01 11:00:21 PM

Rent Party: Baelz: Rent Party: Aello: 50 Shades is a poorly written piece of crap

Of that there is no doubt.


and is not accurate in portraying BDSM at all.

Aaaand, my case in point.

Well.. It's fantasy so what's your point? I got a lot of ideas from reading the Beauty series, and hell even some crap from the Anita Blake series have inspired me. I don't have a problem with the SoG people getting an interest in BDSM at all. I've met subs who got into this from reading Harry Potty fan fiction... Who cares how/why they got an interest.

Our resident experts apparently do. Those SoG folks are just noobs, ya know. Whatever they're doing isn't *real* BDSM. Only what I'm doing is real. Look here! It says so right on my Scene Approved List of Real Stuff!


You have some good points but sound so bitter that they are hard to take seriously. You keep trying to act that clyph is going into people's ho ex to monitor what they do. You purposefully misunderstand the term scene in the BDSM context.

I agree with ou that the disdain that many in the BDSM community feel for the 50S people is unacceptable. But, that is not everyone. And not at all what he was saying in this thread.

The pissing match on this thread is getting ridiculous.
 
2012-10-01 11:01:53 PM
I totally dig rough sex and bare handed spanking, but any more than that is not my bag, baby.
/late to the party
 
2012-10-01 11:03:35 PM

The One True TheDavid: Or are those good Christians bent on curing us from swinging both ways because Jesus really loves us?


So you're telling me that Homosexuality is ok, but natural human sexual variation that harms no one, and is done between consenting adults is bad?

bbsimg.ngfiles.com

The One True TheDavid: You show me someone who enjoys being whipped and I'll show you an idiot without self-respect.


And you're entitled to your opinion. Just like Kirk Cameron is entitled to the opinion that God created the Banana to fit perfectly in the human hand and mouth.

www.damnedifgodexists.com

The One True TheDavid: You show me someone who enjoys being whipped and tells everybody it proves how free and strong he is


Who's said that, again?
 
2012-10-01 11:05:44 PM

BronyMedic: Actually, I get aroused when I get back to the station, and the 32 year old, 170lb MILF I work with decides to crawl into bed with me and tell me she has wanted to fark me since I was 20.


CSB.

So is she still a MILF or is she now a MIDF? (I did)
 
2012-10-01 11:06:16 PM

Tassach: Fact of the matter is that the military (at least the US military) wants to create leaders, specifically leaders who can think on their feet, adapt, and improvise.


Not that I'm agreeing or disagreeing with either you or him, but this doesn't really address what he said.
One could be a leader and still be "programmed" to sacrifice for God and country above all other concerns. It just means that you'd be very good at getting people under your command to do the same thing in the most effective way possible. Indeed, I think you'd find many current servicemen and vets alike who would see that as a laudable trait.
 
2012-10-01 11:07:09 PM
expecting sex from your wife in america? good luck buddy. unless she wants more anklebiters because she's so conceited and arrogant she simply must have miniature reproductions of herself, those heated thighs freeze right over about 12-18 months after you say "I Do".
 
2012-10-01 11:09:00 PM

BronyMedic: the 32 year old, 170lb MILF I work with


170 seems a little heavy for MILF territory. Is she 6'3"?
 
2012-10-01 11:12:33 PM

Gawdzila: 170 seems a little heavy for MILF territory. Is she 6'3"?


Maybe brony is a chubby chaser.

NTTAWWT. Girls who like to eat tend to be very orally fixated.
 
2012-10-01 11:12:58 PM
Rent Party, I got tired just reading your antics in this thread (and I stopped before BronyMedic even got here) - how you found the energy for this and why you deemed it a good use of your time, I'll never know.

clyph, as a Kink aficionado and beginner private participant: thanks for doing what you do. W/o a safe place to play, there's no safe place to play.

/is that meaningful, or just redundant?
 
2012-10-01 11:14:10 PM

Gawdzila: 170 seems a little heavy for MILF territory. Is she 6'3"


Five foot nine, actually. I like curvy women, don't get me wrong.

clyph: So is she still a MILF or is she now a MIDF? (I did)


Uh. No. Aside from that being all kinds of wrong to fark my coworker, that's kinda illegal to do in Tennessee on shift.
 
2012-10-01 11:22:34 PM

BronyMedic: Uh. No. Aside from that being all kinds of wrong to fark my coworker, that's kinda illegal to do in Tennessee on shift.


A prudent decision.

Workplace sex = good.
Drama resulting from workplace sex = ungood
Getting fired for workplace sex = plus ungood
Getting arrested for workplace sex = double plus ungood
 
2012-10-01 11:38:16 PM

BronyMedic: The One True TheDavid:

Oh right, because I should live my life according to a handbook for labeling "mental problems" so HMOs will pay the bills.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Dunning-Kruger effect.


That's what most of the dozens of psychiatrists and psychologists I've seen in the past 30 years have told me the DSM is good for.

They tell me they don't diagnose according to the DSM, rather they listen and then, when filling out the forms, try to find the DSM dx that approximates what they heard and saw of the person.

They tell me they do this because the HMOs require DSM diagnoses, the more specific and/or with the more axes the better, because "the guy's a moody and temperamental asshole who hates life and thinks the Trilateral Commission is pissing in his oatmeal" doesn't sound "scientific" enough.

Why there's a difference between "296.80 Bipolar disorder NOS" and "296.50 Bipolar disorder Unspecified" is for some desk jockey to answer.

Do you know more about what they do for a living than they do? Or maybe you do and you're telling these "helping professionals" are bullshiatting me -- maybe so I'll keep coming to them with the HMO's money?

I'm perfectly aware my attempts to speak Spanish sound like babytalk. D-K yourself.


So, please, David. Tell us why BDSM is so wrong? I'm curious.

As I said before, several times over the past few months: because BDSM contravenes anarchist ethics, which is based on eradicating "master/slave" hierarchies -- not fetishizing them. Reinforcing fascism* by linking it with the libido is backward. See the point?

Personally I find whipping the living shiat out of some idiot who begs for more quite enjoyable. Till I think about it for a second.

This is what I mean by running our lives with those parts of the brain that distinguish us from lizards, not doing whatever we're sick enough to find sexy and "justifying" it later.


* That uses the term loosely, yes. But then I'm sure you don;'t need to be told I'm referring to "the exploitation of man by man," not "palingenetic ultranationalism."
 
2012-10-01 11:39:56 PM
Uh-huh, forced her to work at strip clubs?

So was he up on the stage with her, ready to hit her if she tried to say "Help, call the police, I'm being forced to do this by Ed Bagley of [address]!"

No, of course not? Yeah, what I thought..
 
2012-10-01 11:55:04 PM
clyph:

"Relevant experience" and "presumptuous arrogance" are indistinguishable when you're ignorant and unaware. How DARE someone tell him that his ignorant, uninformed supposition is wrong!

Right, because somebody can't simply disagree with you and your Special Doctrine, he also has to be "ignorant and unaware."

As in someone saying "the Jews reject Christ because they're ignorant and unaware." Of course it can't be because Judaism regards worshipping a man as a god is blasphemous and ridiculous. No, it's because they lack knowledge of the Christians' "great truth," or worse because they willfully refuse to swallow it whole.

Did you get that? Or do I have to come back here tomorrow when I'm sober and strain even harder to explain what I think is a(nother) simple point?

Another, more drunken try: the radical Salafists have told you over and over that your women should wear burkas. How many planes must they fly into your buildings before you cease your presumptuous arrogance and stop refusing to admit The Truth?

Sheesh.
 
2012-10-01 11:56:03 PM
Kazan:

i smell three sockpuppets. Rent Party=jaylectricity=The One True TheDavid

Your mama.

Surely those people could invent a better sock puppet than me.
 
2012-10-01 11:57:04 PM

clyph: BronyMedic: Are you saying that Aello is a sock puppet for Clyph?

I don't know if she's in to fisting, but I'd make her my puppet if she is :)

 


Wait, what? How did I get brought back into this? I was sitting at home about to go to bed when I saw this!!!!
 
2012-10-02 12:02:01 AM
BronyMedic:

The One True TheDavid: Or are those good Christians bent on curing us from swinging both ways because Jesus really loves us?

So you're telling me that Homosexuality is ok, but natural human sexual variation that harms no one, and is done between consenting adults is bad?


No, I'm saying that BDSM is not a "natural human sexual variation that harms no one," regardless of whether anyone consents or not.

People like you are why we can't have a nice anarchy. The danger isn't swastika-wavers, it's people who really believe the devious lies The Power tells them to perpetuate itself.
 
2012-10-02 12:15:39 AM

The One True TheDavid: No, I'm saying that BDSM is not a "natural human sexual variation that harms no one," regardless of whether anyone consents or not.

People like you are why we can't have a nice anarchy. The danger isn't swastika-wavers, it's people who really believe the devious lies The Power tells them to perpetuate itself.


Riiiiiiight.

We've already discussed why your opinion is just that, and you've admitted in two separate posts that it's ideologically polluted by your belief in anarchism. Not only that, but your theories on the psychology of BDSM are demonstrably wrong by research I linked to you.

As it was said before, you're entitled to your opinion. Even if it's completely wrong.

You just lost any further ability to be taken seriously in this thread.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-02 12:29:48 AM
clyph I'll be looking forward to reading about you in a future thread after you're arrested for your unsafe, reckless, and probably non-consensual behavior. And then we all get to explain AGAIN why assholes like you aren't representative of (or welcome in) the organized BDSM community.

Are you really going through life beleiving there is only ONE BDSM community?
 
2012-10-02 12:35:53 AM
Still going?
 
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