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(Boston Herald)   Occupy Boston's anniversary reoccupation draws only 100 people willing to be rained on for the cause   (bostonherald.com) divider line 67
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2012-10-01 07:28:43 AM  
One person was seen holding a sign that said, "We are the 99."
 
2012-10-01 09:06:04 AM  
If you needed any evidence that we Americans have very short attention spa.....oh look, a new iPhone!
 
2012-10-01 09:08:54 AM  
Not even bored unemployed hipsters are stupid enough to embrace 'it didn't work, so let's do it some more' as a long-term credo. Occupy is dead. Too many people have heard of it.
 
2012-10-01 09:12:37 AM  
Put a fork in it, it's done.
 
2012-10-01 10:41:43 AM  

whistleridge: Too many people have heard of it.


Isn't the point of the protest to make people aware?
 
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2012-10-01 10:55:07 AM  

jaylectricity: whistleridge: Too many people have heard of it.

Isn't the point of the protest to make people aware?


Is there anyone who isn't aware?
 
2012-10-01 11:09:22 AM  

vpb: Is there anyone who isn't aware?


Of what, good sir?
 
2012-10-01 11:12:20 AM  
Golden.
 
2012-10-01 11:12:24 AM  

whistleridge: Not even bored unemployed hipsters are stupid enough to embrace 'it didn't work, so let's do it some more' as a long-term credo. Occupy is dead. Too many people have heard of it.


It will come back ironically in a few years.
 
2012-10-01 11:13:34 AM  

Dejah: One person was seen holding a sign that said, "We are the 99."


The hundredth person held up a sign that said, "I'm not."
 
2012-10-01 11:14:48 AM  
Through some of their own actions and some slander the movement has taken some serious PR hits but it did help bring the issues of wealth inequality to the forefront in this election cycle. I am sure many of the people that were there went on to work in some other form of activism so it isn't like the right wing is rid of them.
 
2012-10-01 11:16:11 AM  
It achieved what it needed too. Keep the memory alive sure, but bringing it back would just be earning some thuggish cops overtime pay. Move on.
 
2012-10-01 11:18:48 AM  
It COULD be taken to mean a couple of things:

1) Maybe there aren't as many unemployed, disaffected youth this year as there were last year. That can only be a good thing.

2) Maybe occupy's lack of a coherent message or brand doomed it.

3) Maybe the media's unwillingness to seriously report on what coherent messages the movement DID have doomed it.

Me? I think it's a little of columns A,B and C
 
2012-10-01 11:21:39 AM  
That wasn't rain.
 
2012-10-01 11:24:45 AM  
But I was assured by Glenn Beck and other right wing doomsayers that the Occupy movement was a well organized and funded mission by shadowy international alliances that was destined to forever change America as we know it.

Did they succeed and we just didn't notice?
 
2012-10-01 11:30:22 AM  
A large number of us are still working on things, just not under the Occupy "banner". The movement's not gone, but because we were unwilling to be a Democratic version of the Tea Party, we lost a lot of "support" from centrist liberals and Democrats, and that support brought money (with endless strings attached) and bodies (which were largely useless). Good riddance, frankly. We're still marking off successes and we will continue to.
 
2012-10-01 11:30:26 AM  
fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca

I think a lot of people stayed away because of the Rainey. Dorli Rainey, an 84 year old OWS protester gassed by the police.
 
2012-10-01 11:31:43 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: [fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca image 667x445]

I think a lot of people stayed away because of the Rainey. Dorli Rainey, an 84 year old OWS protester gassed by the police.


Dorli was and is pretty badass.
 
2012-10-01 11:38:02 AM  
Political hipsterism.
 
2012-10-01 11:43:17 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: [fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca image 667x445]

I think a lot of people stayed away because of the Rainey. Dorli Rainey, an 84 year old OWS protester gassed by the police.


dude, I don't care what you're into but granny bukkake needs to come with a NSFW tag
 
2012-10-01 11:49:16 AM  
Seriously, a 'movement' with no concrete goals or leadership fizzled out? What are the odds?
 
2012-10-01 11:49:31 AM  
90 people more than the last Tea Party rally
 
2012-10-01 11:51:46 AM  
OB was only about 100 strong camping anyways, besides a few bigger demonstrations.

That Occupy changed the focus of both the MSN and political discussion is pretty crazy. We're talking about %'s in the presidential race for Christ sakes. Lot more talk about the middle class, income inequality, the damn economy.

MSM and the GOP were perfectly happy to rail on about the debt and austerity when the financial crisis wasn't even over. They really wanted to hijack that instance to disassemble the New Deal, and abolish taxes on the wealthy and as much government as possible. It's been their plan since forever.
 
2012-10-01 11:55:11 AM  

A Dark Evil Omen: A large number of us are still working on things, just not under the Occupy "banner". The movement's not gone, but because we were unwilling to be a Democratic version of the Tea Party, we lost a lot of "support" from centrist liberals and Democrats, and that support brought money (with endless strings attached) and bodies (which were largely useless). Good riddance, frankly. We're still marking off successes and we will continue to.


So the green-rainbow version of Both parties are bad?

Dems might not be 100% with what the people in occupy stand for, but lets get real about the choices and how 3rd parties (don't work) in our system.

Better to take a page from the dixiecrats, and countless others who rose their ranks. Find common ground, work together, influence over time.
 
2012-10-01 11:56:18 AM  

A Dark Evil Omen: A large number of us are still working on things, just not under the Occupy "banner". The movement's not gone, but because we were unwilling to be a Democratic version of the Tea Party, we lost a lot of "support" from centrist liberals and Democrats, and that support brought money (with endless strings attached) and bodies (which were largely useless). Good riddance, frankly. We're still marking off successes and we will continue to.


Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
2012-10-01 11:57:31 AM  

m2313: A Dark Evil Omen: A large number of us are still working on things, just not under the Occupy "banner". The movement's not gone, but because we were unwilling to be a Democratic version of the Tea Party, we lost a lot of "support" from centrist liberals and Democrats, and that support brought money (with endless strings attached) and bodies (which were largely useless). Good riddance, frankly. We're still marking off successes and we will continue to.

Couldn't have said it better myself.


eww these grapes are sour!
 
2012-10-01 12:01:57 PM  

TyrantII: A Dark Evil Omen: A large number of us are still working on things, just not under the Occupy "banner". The movement's not gone, but because we were unwilling to be a Democratic version of the Tea Party, we lost a lot of "support" from centrist liberals and Democrats, and that support brought money (with endless strings attached) and bodies (which were largely useless). Good riddance, frankly. We're still marking off successes and we will continue to.

So the green-rainbow version of Both parties are bad?

Dems might not be 100% with what the people in occupy stand for, but lets get real about the choices and how 3rd parties (don't work) in our system.

Better to take a page from the dixiecrats, and countless others who rose their ranks. Find common ground, work together, influence over time.


Or we could reject electoral politics altogether instead of dooming ourselves to being another Democratic proxy. No change, not in the whole history of this country, has come from the ballot box. Legal implementation of social changes comes to the ballot box after it's a fait accompli and an easy win for one major party or the other, or it comes via the Supreme Court when it has become clear the direction society is going. In all cases major change, real change, has come via mass social movements and not partisan electoral politics.

Progressive and even fringe elements in the Democratic party, like the DSA, have been saying many of the same things for years and years. They gain no traction. We have accomplished more real things outside the Washington system in one year than the Democratic progressive caucus has from inside in twenty-one.
 
2012-10-01 12:02:58 PM  

gilgigamesh: But I was assured by Glenn Beck and other right wing doomsayers that the Occupy movement was a well organized and funded mission by shadowy international alliances that was destined to forever change America as we know it.

Did they succeed and we just didn't notice?


In a way, yes.

OWS got people talking about income inequality. And we're STILL talking about it. It doesn't hurt that the Republican Presidential candidate is basically every stereotype about the '1%' (a concept people wouldn't be discussing nearly as much, incidentally, if not for OWS) mashed into one person.
 
2012-10-01 12:03:03 PM  
The other day when they had their anniversary protest on Wall Street there were more pigs that showed up than protesters. It was kind of annoying that you had to show ID and proved you worked on Wall Street, but once you got through it was also kind of nice to have Wall Street to those of us who worked there and not filled up with gawking tourists and protesting mud people.
 
2012-10-01 12:07:56 PM  
Police brutality works. People aren't as willing to show up for protests if cops beat the shiat out of them every time they try.
 
2012-10-01 12:13:30 PM  
4) Nightly arrests by police who use unnecessary force. Never shown on the news because the police arrest anybody with a camera, even news outlets.

5) The problem is more than just 1% of the population.
 
2012-10-01 12:19:15 PM  

Bossk'sSegway: 4) Nightly arrests by police who use unnecessary force. Never shown on the news because the police arrest anybody with a camera, even news outlets.

5) The problem is more than just 1% of the population.


All of this.

/Dorli Rainey is a farking badass
 
2012-10-01 12:24:17 PM  
What successes beside introducing the terms 99% and 1% are there? I honestly don't see them. I also would like to understand what they are hoping to accomplish outside of the political system. I just don't seem to understand the goal here.
 
2012-10-01 12:33:00 PM  

jaylectricity: whistleridge: Too many people have heard of it.

Isn't the point of the protest to make people aware?


It's a hipster joke. You wouldn't understand.
 
2012-10-01 12:47:20 PM  

RangerTaylor: What successes beside introducing the terms 99% and 1% are there? I honestly don't see them. I also would like to understand what they are hoping to accomplish outside of the political system. I just don't seem to understand the goal here.


Hoping to accomplish? A lot of things that boil down to building a new radical left. Some of the things that I personally have worked on include:

- Strike support
- Fighting foreclosures
- Working with homeless people and street kids, particularly with some of the local homeless camps
- Free, public education on environmental and food quality issues

We're working on helping unions organize shops that are currently non-union. We're working on countering expansions of police power. We're building replacements for the public structures (like the various state and municipal library systems across the country) that are being gradually taken away from us.

The news isn't interested in telling you that our comrades stepped in and just put a public library together to provide library services during the Seattle Public Library shutdowns. The news isn't interested in telling you about the various union locals that we helped fight it out and get better settlements than they would have without the support. The news isn't interested in telling you about the families that have gotten to stay in their homes because our comrades helped them fight illegal foreclosures. And so on and so on. Maybe those are all too small for you, which I guess leaves me asking what the fark you've done this week?
 
2012-10-01 12:56:43 PM  

Bossk'sSegway: 4) Nightly arrests by police who use unnecessary force. Never shown on the news because the police arrest anybody with a camera, even news outlets.

5) The problem is more than just 1% of the population.


Never shown on the news because it doesnt sell.

What Americans want to see are people acting like complete morons and not real news. News media tends to focus on what the audience wants.
 
2012-10-01 12:57:10 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: TyrantII: A Dark Evil Omen: A large number of us are still working on things, just not under the Occupy "banner". The movement's not gone, but because we were unwilling to be a Democratic version of the Tea Party, we lost a lot of "support" from centrist liberals and Democrats, and that support brought money (with endless strings attached) and bodies (which were largely useless). Good riddance, frankly. We're still marking off successes and we will continue to.

So the green-rainbow version of Both parties are bad?

Dems might not be 100% with what the people in occupy stand for, but lets get real about the choices and how 3rd parties (don't work) in our system.

Better to take a page from the dixiecrats, and countless others who rose their ranks. Find common ground, work together, influence over time.

Or we could reject electoral politics altogether instead of dooming ourselves to being another Democratic proxy. No change, not in the whole history of this country, has come from the ballot box. Legal implementation of social changes comes to the ballot box after it's a fait accompli and an easy win for one major party or the other, or it comes via the Supreme Court when it has become clear the direction society is going. In all cases major change, real change, has come via mass social movements and not partisan electoral politics.

Progressive and even fringe elements in the Democratic party, like the DSA, have been saying many of the same things for years and years. They gain no traction. We have accomplished more real things outside the Washington system in one year than the Democratic progressive caucus has from inside in twenty-one.


It takes two to build a cake. Yes you need a large constituency to point to outside the system, but you also need to co-opt the system from within. It's very easy FOR the system to point to Occupy or the Teaparty as a bunch of loons and have the statist media lap it up and repeat it. Common folk will hear that and tend to agree.

You don't attack the king's army from the front. You shiv him in the side while in his bedchambers.
 
2012-10-01 12:58:16 PM  
Yeah. I wouldn't worry about it though, it's not a big college town.
 
2012-10-01 01:07:23 PM  

TyrantII: OB was only about 100 strong camping anyways, besides a few bigger demonstrations.

That Occupy changed the focus of both the MSN and political discussion is pretty crazy. We're talking about %'s in the presidential race for Christ sakes. Lot more talk about the middle class, income inequality, the damn economy.

MSM and the GOP were perfectly happy to rail on about the debt and austerity when the financial crisis wasn't even over. They really wanted to hijack that instance to disassemble the New Deal, and abolish taxes on the wealthy and as much government as possible. It's been their plan since forever.


Pretty much this. MSM and politicians are talking about issues that they weren't before, even if the people were. I didn't camp, but I marched with Occupy Boston last year. I don't plan on doing it this year. The message is out there already. Now it's time to work in other ways to make positive change.
 
2012-10-01 01:15:19 PM  

RangerTaylor: What successes beside introducing the terms 99% and 1% are there? I honestly don't see them. I also would like to understand what they are hoping to accomplish outside of the political system. I just don't seem to understand the goal here.


A bunch of radical leftists, disaffected libs, and regular folks got together in some parks and traded ideas. And shouted down the donkeys who showed up to slap their name brand on the whole thing. That ain't much, but its a hell of a lot more than nothing.
 
2012-10-01 01:22:52 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: RangerTaylor: What successes beside introducing the terms 99% and 1% are there? I honestly don't see them. I also would like to understand what they are hoping to accomplish outside of the political system. I just don't seem to understand the goal here.

Hoping to accomplish? A lot of things that boil down to building a new radical left. Some of the things that I personally have worked on include:

- Strike support
- Fighting foreclosures
- Working with homeless people and street kids, particularly with some of the local homeless camps
- Free, public education on environmental and food quality issues

We're working on helping unions organize shops that are currently non-union. We're working on countering expansions of police power. We're building replacements for the public structures (like the various state and municipal library systems across the country) that are being gradually taken away from us.

The news isn't interested in telling you that our comrades stepped in and just put a public library together to provide library services during the Seattle Public Library shutdowns. The news isn't interested in telling you about the various union locals that we helped fight it out and get better settlements than they would have without the support. The news isn't interested in telling you about the families that have gotten to stay in their homes because our comrades helped them fight illegal foreclosures. And so on and so on. Maybe those are all too small for you, which I guess leaves me asking what the fark you've done this week?


This is exactly what I was looking for. I was asking the honest question. Before you get all worked up, remember that for whatever reason none of the rest of the country knows you are doing these things. I honestly had no idea whether anybody involved accomplished anything besides camping in a park. You seem to detest the media, which is perfectly reasonable, but unless you manage to work with them enough to publicize what you are doing, it has little effect outside of the people you interact with directly. Thanks for getting all spun up and jumping on my shiat though, it certainly helps your cause.
 
2012-10-01 01:23:55 PM  
If the members of the Occupy movement had gotten organized and involved in local politics in the same way as the Tea Partiers, they could have actually made a difference. Instead, they've become a fizzled punchline to late night monologues.
 
2012-10-01 01:32:34 PM  

RangerTaylor: This is exactly what I was looking for. I was asking the honest question. Before you get all worked up, remember that for whatever reason none of the rest of the country knows you are doing these things. I honestly had no idea whether anybody involved accomplished anything besides camping in a park. You seem to detest the media, which is perfectly reasonable, but unless you manage to work with them enough to publicize what you are doing, it has little effect outside of the people you interact with directly. Thanks for getting all spun up and jumping on my shiat though, it certainly helps your cause.


I get spun up because I give this same spiel every couple of days around here and in person. I get spun up because I am sick unto death of the assumption that no one has any burden to find things out for themselves. Yes, it makes me mad. How exactly do we "work with" the media? The mass media has an agenda and a narrative they want to sell, and, to be frank, our good work is too boring for them to take notice of and they've got a nice solid lock on how they want to spin (or ignore) the big noisy stuff we do. At what point is it okay for me to be angry at people when it seems like they're working hard not to know what's going on?
 
2012-10-01 01:54:07 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: RangerTaylor: This is exactly what I was looking for. I was asking the honest question. Before you get all worked up, remember that for whatever reason none of the rest of the country knows you are doing these things. I honestly had no idea whether anybody involved accomplished anything besides camping in a park. You seem to detest the media, which is perfectly reasonable, but unless you manage to work with them enough to publicize what you are doing, it has little effect outside of the people you interact with directly. Thanks for getting all spun up and jumping on my shiat though, it certainly helps your cause.

I get spun up because I give this same spiel every couple of days around here and in person. I get spun up because I am sick unto death of the assumption that no one has any burden to find things out for themselves. Yes, it makes me mad. How exactly do we "work with" the media? The mass media has an agenda and a narrative they want to sell, and, to be frank, our good work is too boring for them to take notice of and they've got a nice solid lock on how they want to spin (or ignore) the big noisy stuff we do. At what point is it okay for me to be angry at people when it seems like they're working hard not to know what's going on?


It's okay for you to be pissed off as soon as you give up on making a difference. If you want to get the word out and influence things, you have to accept the burden that is part of dealing with a disinterested public. You say I have a burden to find things out for myself? I suppose, but you have a burden to make me interested. I frankly don't care enough to spend a lot of my time to find out what {insert movement/group name here} is doing unless it impacts me significantly or is unusually interesting. Political or economic reform cannot be achieved in a vacuum. Until you are able to get your message out successfully to all of us mindless peons, you are doomed to obscurity. Call it 'business as usual' or 'just politics' if you want, but your message is ineffective if nobody hears it. Basically you are using the classic 'this job would be easy if it weren't for the customers' line.

Sorry, it's just reality, you have to play to the public to get your message across.
 
2012-10-01 02:02:09 PM  
What, you mean a group of young people that is mentally and capable of actually achieving something doesn't want to be corralled, beaten, and gassed by police only to have the dipshiats in the "news media" report nothing more than, "hyuk, hyuk, thar them hippies go!" while the lobbyists and hucksters who run the Tea-per Tantrum are treated like legitimate human beings not made of animal feces? Well, gee, I wonder why?
 
2012-10-01 02:17:41 PM  

RangerTaylor: Sorry, it's just reality, you have to play to the public to get your message across.


Actions speak louder than words. Better we should spend our time doing productive things and building something real than trying to put a nice public face out there and not accomplish anything. Ultimately, if you're not going to pick up and help, what the fark do I care what you think of me?
 
2012-10-01 02:19:05 PM  
Wouldn't quite a few of those people be busy working the Warren campaign?
 
2012-10-01 02:19:40 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: We have accomplished more real things outside the Washington system in one year than the Democratic progressive caucus has from inside in twenty-one.


This has the distinct flavor of self-aggrandizing BS.
 
2012-10-01 02:33:45 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: RangerTaylor: Sorry, it's just reality, you have to play to the public to get your message across.

Actions speak louder than words. Better we should spend our time doing productive things and building something real than trying to put a nice public face out there and not accomplish anything. Ultimately, if you're not going to pick up and help, what the fark do I care what you think of me?


Good luck, but you will be nothing but an after-thought without publicity. You can't accomplish any large-scale change without selling your message to the public. If you do good things, however, good on you.
 
2012-10-01 02:36:50 PM  

EyeballKid: What, you mean a group of young people that is mentally and capable of actually achieving something doesn't want to be corralled, beaten, and gassed by police only to have the dipshiats in the "news media" report nothing more than, "hyuk, hyuk, thar them hippies go!" while the lobbyists and hucksters who run the Tea-per Tantrum are treated like legitimate human beings not made of animal feces? Well, gee, I wonder why?


Everyone always focuses on the morons. They focused on the racists in the tea party and the anti-semites/anarchist punks in the Occupy Movement. The message they may have had gets lost in the finger pointing hoo-ha of "LOOK AT THOSE MONSTERS?!?!"
 
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