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2012-10-01 12:08:26 PM  
6 votes:

EnviroDude: Bin Laden is dead? So is our Libyan ambassador.


Can't remember his name, eh? Yeah, I'm sure you cared enough to know his name before he died, right?
2012-10-01 09:28:25 AM  
5 votes:

somedude210: Wait, what mistakes?

/DNRTFA, at work and didn't want to get pegged as an idiot or a right winger


FTFA:

FREDERICKSBURG - A 92 percent drop in absentee-ballot requests by military personnel in Virginia is raising concerns that the Pentagon is failing to carry out a federal voting law.

This is no way relates to the fact that less soldiers are absent.
2012-10-01 02:08:32 PM  
4 votes:
I'm beginning to feel like our country is simply lost, and all our heroes are dead. Once, our country seemed charmed, blessed by an angel to be God's true representatives on earth. But now, Big Brother has taken over. Our government is being run by madmen straight from the psych ward. Barack Obama, alias Barry Hussein Marshall Davis Soetoro, is degrading the office of the Presidency and straining our country to the point of breaking. Bad news comes in every day on the economy, the Middle East, the morals and principles our country was founded on, while Barry sits and rubs his hands with barely-disguised glee. The Democrat party is full of intellectual lightweights and mental sopranos who applaud fornication and homosexuality in schools and in the streets, like in the waning days of Rome. Government bureaucracies are already full of overpaid dead wood and they want to add more! The situation in the country is becoming downright desperate. Housewives like Ann Romney, who dedicate their lives to their children, are openly spat upon by sluts and feminists that pop up from the cracks of society like weeds. This is especially sad because godfearing Christian men like the sons of Ann are key in restoring our country's glory. I feel in my bones that we are coming down to the wire if we want to save the America that our forefathers believed in. We need to act like the doctor who amputates to save a limb and get rid of this crazy fringe element of socialism that's infecting the Senate and the House.
2012-10-01 12:40:37 PM  
3 votes:

EnviroDude: Obama didn't end the war in Iraq. He simply complied with the Bush plan for leaving the country.

/the more you know



Bush refused to give a timeline while candidate Obama set one. Then suddenly Bush was all for the timeline, hoping it would help the McCain campaign

/the more you know
2012-10-01 10:37:13 AM  
3 votes:

mrshowrules: mrshowrules: GAT_00: And so begins the concern about how Obama stole a win. This was inevitable.

The unskewed polls have Obama down by over 7 points so if he wins loses there is definitely some hanky panky going on. Although the left-wing media is doing a good job making an Obama win seem plausible.

correction.


Well MY observation is that your polls are still a bit liberally biased, by virtue of being in the media. I started my own secret polling service and President Black Muslim Hitler is down by at least 13 points every one of them. I would recommend changing your method to reflect accurate facts.

/I love a game of "One True Retarded Scotsman"
2012-10-01 03:42:53 PM  
2 votes:

Chameleon: I'm beginning to feel like our country is simply lost, and all our heroes are dead. Once, our country seemed charmed, blessed by an angel to be God's true representatives on earth. But now, Big Brother has taken over. Our government is being run by madmen straight from the psych ward. Barack Obama, alias Barry Hussein Marshall Davis Soetoro, is degrading the office of the Presidency and straining our country to the point of breaking. Bad news comes in every day on the economy, the Middle East, the morals and principles our country was founded on, while Barry sits and rubs his hands with barely-disguised glee. The Democrat party is full of intellectual lightweights and mental sopranos who applaud fornication and homosexuality in schools and in the streets, like in the waning days of Rome. Government bureaucracies are already full of overpaid dead wood and they want to add more! The situation in the country is becoming downright desperate. Housewives like Ann Romney, who dedicate their lives to their children, are openly spat upon by sluts and feminists that pop up from the cracks of society like weeds. This is especially sad because godfearing Christian men like the sons of Ann are key in restoring our country's glory. I feel in my bones that we are coming down to the wire if we want to save the America that our forefathers believed in. We need to act like the doctor who amputates to save a limb and get rid of this crazy fringe element of socialism that's infecting the Senate and the House.


Someday, a modern Martin Luther will metaphorically nail his thesis to the Internet in the hope of changing the world. We will then search his writings for pop culture memes and grammatical errors.
2012-10-01 02:11:17 PM  
2 votes:

Chameleon: I'm beginning to feel like our country is simply lost, and all our heroes are dead. Once, our country seemed charmed, blessed by an angel to be God's true representatives on earth. But now, Big Brother has taken over. Our government is being run by madmen straight from the psych ward. Barack Obama, alias Barry Hussein Marshall Davis Soetoro, is degrading the office of the Presidency and straining our country to the point of breaking. Bad news comes in every day on the economy, the Middle East, the morals and principles our country was founded on, while Barry sits and rubs his hands with barely-disguised glee. The Democrat party is full of intellectual lightweights and mental sopranos who applaud fornication and homosexuality in schools and in the streets, like in the waning days of Rome. Government bureaucracies are already full of overpaid dead wood and they want to add more! The situation in the country is becoming downright desperate. Housewives like Ann Romney, who dedicate their lives to their children, are openly spat upon by sluts and feminists that pop up from the cracks of society like weeds. This is especially sad because godfearing Christian men like the sons of Ann are key in restoring our country's glory. I feel in my bones that we are coming down to the wire if we want to save the America that our forefathers believed in. We need to act like the doctor who amputates to save a limb and get rid of this crazy fringe element of socialism that's infecting the Senate and the House.


Did you cry last night?
2012-10-01 01:29:42 PM  
2 votes:

imontheinternet: The military turnout for a guy who forgot we're at war in Afghanistan is significantly lower than the prior turnout for a war hero.

.


And he is all fired up to go into Iran. I'm sure our war hero veteran professionals are ally ready to spend another decade away from their families so they can wage another land war in Asia.
2012-10-01 01:16:17 PM  
2 votes:

vicioushobbit: I think it's just so cute that they assume the votes would be for Romney. As if the currently enlisted haven't figured out they'd be just as boned as the rest of the veterans that Romney "isn't worried about" because they are so dependent on the system...


They were, if my anecdotal evidence is to be believed, figuring it out as early as 2007. The way it's been explained is that the brass are conservative, as the stereotypes say, but the grunts are more liberal, owing both to their youth and their experiences (being "taken for granted" as voters by the GOP, being sent off to a GOP-cheered War of Uselesness, watching as GOP Congressmen hi-five and cheer when they cut military pay).
2012-10-01 12:59:42 PM  
2 votes:

Here's a post from Forbes.com that seems relevant:

(Roger Hedgecock) declared for all to hear that President Obama was purposely subverting the voting process by seeing to it that military absentee ballots not be sent out in enough time to allow our soldiers to complete their votes and get them back to be counted by established deadlines.

There would appear to be but two ways Obama could exercise his authority to interfere with military absentee voting. The first would involve muscling 'friendlies" occupying the office of the Secretary of State in key swing states where denying the vote to those who might go against the President could produce meaningful results. The second would come via instructing the Department of Justice to hold back on enforcing the laws designed to protect and encourage voting by soldiers serving overseas.

The first option turns out to be a complete non-starter. In the most critical of swing states-Ohio, Florida and Virginia-the Secretary of State operations are, in each instance, firmly in the control of Republicans. And if we move on to the next level of key decider states-Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, and North Carolina-we find two Republicans and two Democrats holding down the job.

However, playing games with state officials does not appear to be what Mr. Hedgecock had in mind. Rather, in making his accusations, Hedgecock appears to be skewing more towards the second option involving manipulation of the Justice Department, as touched upon in an article he wrote for the conservative magazine, "Human Events", published in July under the title "Suppressing The Military Vote."

In that piece, Hedgecock discusses the "Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment Act" (MOVE), passed in 2009 and signed into law by President Obama, which "requires states to mail absentee ballots at least 45 days before an election; use electronic delivery systems where possible; and require express mail delivery for returning absentee ballots." This is a law that was created by Congress in response to concerns that the small number of absentee ballots cast by our soldiers engaged in foreign wars in 2008 was the result of the states failing to make ballots available to military voters in time to get their choices sent home to be counted.

So this must be it. Hedgecock must be making the point that the Justice Department has failed to push the states to follow through on this law in the effort to lessen the impact of military votes that would tally up against the President's re-election. Worse still, Hedgecock must have evidence that the DOJ is dragging its feet at the express instructions of the President. Clearly, this must be the basis for Mr. Hedgecock's very serious charge that the President of the United States is involved and directing voter suppression, yes?

Well...as it turns out, no.

Amazingly, while Hedgecock provides a very provocative title to his piece in "Human Events" -and later appears to use the article as a basis to charge the President with engaging in voter suppression during his appearance on national television-the very same article actually credits the Justice Department with becoming involved with the effort to enforce this law, if only because President Obama now believes that military voting habits are moving in his direction.

He writes, "Obama's DOJ has become involved since surveys showed that the traditional Republican advantage with military voters could be changing. The New York Times reports that while military voters gave George Bush a 16 point advantage over John Kerry in 2004, and gave John McCain a ten point lead over Barack Obama in 2008, Obama has targeted military voters in 2012."

So, did Roger Hedgecock simply get confused by Chris Matthews and, in the struggle to come up with some sort of defense, say the first thing that came to into his mind? Or did Mr. Hedgecock decide he could make a little noise for himself by accusing the President of the United States of voter suppression, completely forgetting that his own words argue against the very premise?

Either way, unless Mr. Hedgecock can present some sort of rational basis for his claim, it should not go unnoticed that the man has accused the President of either breaking the law or conspiring to break the law-a charge that is complete nonsense and well beyond the pale.
2012-10-01 12:52:33 PM  
2 votes:

soy_bomb: I don't know what is more offensive, EnviroDude not referring to Ambassador Stevens by name or the fact Christopher Stevens was left unguarded in an Islamic country with known threats on his life on the anniversary of 9/11 by the current Administration. My money is on EnviroDude, according to Obama, Steven's death was just a bump in the road.


You people and your desperate hope of giving Obama his own 9/11 by politicizing this event is farking disgusting and no one is falling for it.
2012-10-01 12:41:55 PM  
2 votes:

EnviroDude: Bin Laden is dead? So is our Libyan ambassador.



Bush failed to stop terrorist attacks on American soil

0bama failed to stop protests at foreign consulates

Both sides are bad!
2012-10-01 11:58:18 AM  
2 votes:
From the Parent Article: FVAP's director, who reports to the undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, left at the end of May, and the agency leadership has been in transition. Pam Mitchell, FVAP's acting director, acknowledged findings in a recent DOD Inspector General report that indicated difficulties service members had in reaching voting offices at military installations Don Palmer, secretary of Virginia's State Board of Elections, said, "It is immensely challenging to deal with DOD on the [absentee ballot] issue." Eversole praised Virginia's SBE for making itself a single point of contact for military voters, unlike other states where service personnel must navigate through myriad local election boards.

Folks, this may not just be about derp. If there are genuine issues in getting proper absentee ballots to the correct soldiers, that's pretty important and needs to be corrected. Even the Heritage Foundation source in the parent article is not blaming this on politics. They are complaining that recent legislation to streamline the process has not been well implemented by the Pentagon.
2012-10-01 10:33:24 AM  
2 votes:
Thanks for reminding me that Obama ended the war in Iraq and withdrew 100,000 troops.

/good guy, that Obama
2012-10-01 10:24:22 AM  
2 votes:
And so begins the concern about how Obama stole a win. This was inevitable.
2012-10-01 10:06:21 AM  
2 votes:

silo123j: Seems like the commander in chief needs to talk to the right people to rectify this mistake.

Or perhaps the trollmitter would like to write a note to the President.

But since more troops are home thanks to this C-in-C perhaps they are able to vote normally.


So technically this is because of the President's manipulations. A true patriot would have started a new war to maintain the level of absentee voters.
2012-10-01 09:57:41 AM  
2 votes:
Seems like the commander in chief needs to talk to the right people to rectify this mistake.

Or perhaps the trollmitter would like to write a note to the President.

But since more troops are home thanks to this C-in-C perhaps they are able to vote normally.
2012-10-01 09:48:29 AM  
2 votes:
Headline: Military absentee ballots going AWOL in 2012

Article: drop in absentee-ballot requests


It says quite a bit about the intelligence level that the Legacy foundation expect from their supporters.
2012-10-02 01:46:59 AM  
1 vote:

intelligent comment below: that1guy77: Don't waste your time. When our last nuke is cut the Chinese bayonets in their abdomen will do the talking.


Now don't you feel stupid


I ran with it. Slap yourself.
2012-10-01 07:07:02 PM  
1 vote:
Scandal about Romney/RNC voter disenfranchisement building every day? Just accuse Obama of disenfranchising voters and hope nobody notices the obvious projection!
2012-10-01 06:25:18 PM  
1 vote:

mrshowrules: silo123j: Seems like the commander in chief needs to talk to the right people to rectify this mistake.

Or perhaps the trollmitter would like to write a note to the President.

But since more troops are home thanks to this C-in-C perhaps they are able to vote normally.

So technically this is because of the President's manipulations. A true patriot would have started a new war to maintain the level of absentee voters.


We cannot allow a war gap.
2012-10-01 06:03:30 PM  
1 vote:

EnviroDude: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Thanks for reminding me that Obama ended the war in Iraq and withdrew 100,000 troops.

/good guy, that Obama

Obama didn't end the war in Iraq. He simply complied with the Bush plan for leaving the country.

/the more you know


there you go with your b...b..but Bush

stoopid lib
2012-10-01 04:20:09 PM  
1 vote:

mrshowrules: mrshowrules: GAT_00: And so begins the concern about how Obama stole a win. This was inevitable.

The unskewed polls have Obama down by over 7 points so if he wins loses there is definitely some hanky panky going on. Although the left-wing media is doing a good job making an Obama win seem plausible.

correction.


Huh. I've never seen a correction issued to clarify a blatant trolling attempt before.

It's weirdly charming.
2012-10-01 03:45:58 PM  
1 vote:

EnviroDude: Bin Laden is dead? So is our Libyan ambassador.


Excellent point you're trying to infer there. It relies on the underlying assumption that Barack Obama is personally responsible for every single thing that happens involving the United States or it's interests during his administration, and deserves equally all blame for failures, and credit for successes. Transitively it also says the same for Bush and his administration.

Therefore,

Bush = 911, losing OBL, Iraq, Afghanistan, deficits instead of surplus, national debt, The Great Recession

Obama = Killing OBL, HCR, Stock Market Recovery, leaving Iraq, Swift ousting of Gaddafi

Thanks for clearing that up douche!
2012-10-01 02:18:15 PM  
1 vote:

EnviroDude: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Thanks for reminding me that Obama ended the war in Iraq and withdrew 100,000 troops.

/good guy, that Obama

Obama didn't end the war in Iraq. He simply complied with the Bush plan for leaving the country.

/the more you know


And I'm sure a Republican president would have complied with that plan. After all, the Republicans in Congress were so happy to let Bush's temporary tax cuts expire on schedule, right?

/McCain would have extended our stay in Iraq, and we'd already have invaded Iran. He farking said as much.
2012-10-01 02:15:40 PM  
1 vote:
And like clockwork this "story" has magically managed to hit Fox News. Posted within the last hour:

Military ballot requests down in key battleground states citing this blog as the source and repeating its unsupported accusations.
2012-10-01 02:13:24 PM  
1 vote:

Chameleon: I'm beginning to feel like our country is simply lost, and all our heroes are dead. Once, our country seemed charmed, blessed by an angel to be God's true representatives on earth. But now, Big Brother has taken over. Our government is being run by madmen straight from the psych ward. Barack Obama, alias Barry Hussein Marshall Davis Soetoro, is degrading the office of the Presidency and straining our country to the point of breaking. Bad news comes in every day on the economy, the Middle East, the morals and principles our country was founded on, while Barry sits and rubs his hands with barely-disguised glee. The Democrat party is full of intellectual lightweights and mental sopranos who applaud fornication and homosexuality in schools and in the streets, like in the waning days of Rome. Government bureaucracies are already full of overpaid dead wood and they want to add more! The situation in the country is becoming downright desperate. Housewives like Ann Romney, who dedicate their lives to their children, are openly spat upon by sluts and feminists that pop up from the cracks of society like weeds. This is especially sad because godfearing Christian men like the sons of Ann are key in restoring our country's glory. I feel in my bones that we are coming down to the wire if we want to save the America that our forefathers believed in. We need to act like the doctor who amputates to save a limb and get rid of this crazy fringe element of socialism that's infecting the Senate and the House.


Get them all?

Applause required for the underline. That is simply fantastic.
2012-10-01 01:24:55 PM  
1 vote:

EnviroDude: Bin Laden is dead? So is our Libyan ambassador.


And we never saw them together... 

Are you claiming that Bin Laden was our Libyan ambassador?
2012-10-01 01:11:07 PM  
1 vote:

Brick-House: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Thanks for reminding me that Obama ended the war in Iraq and withdrew 100,000 troops.

/good guy, that Obama

Yep, and Iraq is so much better off now.


Those soldiers are, isn't that the important part?
2012-10-01 01:11:07 PM  
1 vote:
The military turnout for a guy who forgot we're at war in Afghanistan is significantly lower than the prior turnout for a war hero.

Truly, history's greatest monster has struck again.
2012-10-01 01:07:45 PM  
1 vote:

Brick-House: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Thanks for reminding me that Obama ended the war in Iraq and withdrew 100,000 troops.

/good guy, that Obama

Yep, and Iraq is so much better off now.


Sigh.

We never should have been in Iraq in the first place, that was the whole farking point. We could be in there for another 100 years and it would still be a shiathole, you farking chicken hawk.
2012-10-01 12:55:04 PM  
1 vote:

NYCNative: On the latest episopde of Real Time With Bill Maher, Chris Matthews brought up the voter suppression through Republican efforts in swing states and conservative talk show host Roger Hedgecock brought up this supposed suppression of Military absentee ballots. Maher questioned this and he called it "one of those new facts I often hear from Republicans on our panel." Hedgecock did not elaborate on his sources or what he meant. That was the first time I heard about it until this article.

/ CSB


Just watch Google. This "Old Dominion Watchdog" group and the "Military Voter Protection Project" are feeding the fake story by bouncing fake citations back and forth off each other. Eventually it will filter out to things like Newsmax and Weaselzippers, then to NRO blogs and eventually it will make its way into Fox Nation and headline on Fox News itself which will then cite its way back down through that rabbit hole of partisan shiat as if there was ever anything to it to begin with.

It really is horrifying to watch how these manufactured far-right "stories" come out and make their way into the national media from a seed that's nothing more than two blogs citing each other's unsupported allegations.
2012-10-01 12:51:35 PM  
1 vote:

Peter von Nostrand: [commieblaster.com image 245x319]

Taken from something called commieblaster.com. Think I'm headed back there, the lulz look epic


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

I remember when a Farker shooped this as a joke. Poe's Law is amazing.
2012-10-01 12:48:40 PM  
1 vote:

I don't get the complaint. There are far fewer soldiers being deployed for the first time in the last four elections, so now there are far fewer soldiers requesting absentee ballots.... this seems like common sense to me...

Oh, wait... partisan lies and fake outrage? It suddenly all makes sense...

The Franklin Center was launched by the Chicago-based Sam Adams Alliance (SAM),[6] a 501(c)(3) devoted to pushing free-market ideals. SAM gets funding from the State Policy Network,[7] which is partially funded by The Claude R. Lambe Foundation.[8] Charles Koch, one of the billionaire brothers who co-own Koch Industries, sits on the board of this foundation.[9] SAM also receives funding from the Rodney Fund. The Franklin Center also receives funding from the Wisconsin-based Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation,[10] a conservative grant-making organization.[11]


Fark off, failmitter. If there really were a problem with military voting assholes like you and your maliciously partisan bullshiat would numb people to it and there would actually be disenfranchisement. But, hey, at least your "team" gets point, right asswipe?
2012-10-01 12:33:25 PM  
1 vote:
Veterans aren't turning out to vote for Romney? It must be Obama's fault.
2012-10-01 11:20:47 AM  
1 vote:

Three Crooked Squirrels: Peter von Nostrand: Taken from something called commieblaster.com. Think I'm headed back there, the lulz look epic

Holy crap. Epic indeed. I partticularly liked this scoop:

Islamic-Raised, Barack Hussein Obama (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro, a.k.a. Soebarkah) Perfectly Fits Former FBI Head, J. Edgar Hoover's Definiton of a Communist. He's a Teleprompter-Puppeted, Marxist-Leninist, Rabble-Rousing Narcissist. Americans are His Enemy. See the Full Scoop on Commie Obama.


Soebarkah?! Wow. That is potato-level wit, there.
2012-10-01 11:10:48 AM  
1 vote:
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

The poll numbers are well within the margin of potato.
2012-10-01 09:57:23 AM  
1 vote:

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Headline: Military absentee ballots going AWOL in 2012

Article: drop in absentee-ballot requests


It says quite a bit about the intelligence level that the Legacy foundation expect from their supporters.


This is how insidious the N0bama machine is. They don't "lose" ballots or requests -- there'd be a paper trail. They use mind control devices to convince people to simply not request absentee ballots in the first place.
2012-10-01 09:49:10 AM  
1 vote:
Of course Subby's headline assumes that most of these 'missing' votes would be for Romney. After all, it is important to the average solider that the military keeps getting tanks and aircraft that it does not want or need.
 
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