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(Fox 31 Denver)   Cutie that was registering only voters for Romney in CO is tied to the newly fired firm for voter registration fraud known as Strategic Allied Consulting   (kdvr.com) divider line 200
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2012-10-01 08:40:33 AM
I was actually going to say "hey, at least they're openly only registering one party instead of claiming to register for both but only turning in the registrations they expect will help their party" but I see this asshat has experience with that, too.
 
2012-10-01 08:40:33 AM

cman: Anyways, I wanna know who the cutie is. I really would like to see her in Playboy


I think she is on the cover of the Fetal Alcohol Syndrome edition.
 
2012-10-01 08:44:58 AM

serial_crusher: Jorn the Younger: cirby: James F. Campbell:
Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican.

More like "Democrats have been doing it too, for years, and in wholesale lots." And they're still doing it.

There were two women doing voter registration downtown just the other day. They were going about it in an interesting fashion - they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

What the frying fark does "conservative-looking" even mean? What are the criteria?

Probably similar to whatever algorithm the Republicans are using to identify liberal-sounding names in their massive voter-disenfranchisement scheme, am I right?


Well, no. They can use statistics more easily to disenfranchise democrats than the other way around.

After all, if 90% of the African american population votes for the Democrats, then, well, fark it, toss all registrations from blacks. Sure, they'll catch some republicans, but statistically they'll screw over the Democrats a lot harder.

This is just an example of how one could do such a thing, of course.
/etc etc.
//But I'm sure you were able to figure this out, and hoped no one would call you on it.
 
2012-10-01 08:45:55 AM

Lunaville: cirby: James F. Campbell:
Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican.

More like "Democrats have been doing it too, for years, and in wholesale lots." And they're still doing it.

There were two women doing voter registration downtown just the other day. They were going about it in an interesting fashion - they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

This has been the standard practice for years of Democrat-sponsored voter registration drives: either ignore anyone who didn't "look" right, or only go to places for voter registration drives where they'd get strong Democrat support. Of course, the real issue with the Democrat registration drives by groups like ACORN wasn't in only registering one party's voters, but in making up fake Democrat registrations and discarding registrations for the Republicans...

What constitutes a "conservative looking white woman"? Do they all look alike?

How do registration drive volunteers go out of your way to avoid men? When men approach the registration table do they hastily fold the table up, dash to another location a block or two away, and re-open for business?

Did you make any effort to approach them to test whether they would willingly register you? Or were you too busy being convinced that "They don't want to register white men because we are white men."?


Dude, they went out of their way to avoid him because he was touching himself and staring at them from behind a trash can. Honestly, I don't blame them.

By the way, was anyone else surprised by Overzealous Staffer's identity? After all these years, I was expecting OS to be a crusty old guy.
 
2012-10-01 08:46:07 AM

digistil: serial_crusher: Do you have a citation on them being "caught" 4 years ago?

It's in TFA.


You mean this? Sproul told the Times he formed Strategic Allied Consulting at the request of the RNC for publicity's sake, given past negative media coverage of Lincoln stemming from past allegations going back to 2004, when employees in Nevada and Oregon signed up Democrats but threw out their forms instead of turning them in.

Sorry, I didn't realize 2004 was only 4 years ago. Time flies when you're having fun, eh?
Anyhow, that sounds like the same allegation I mentioned earlier, except conveniently presented as fact in TFA, with no supporting evidence.
 
2012-10-01 08:46:09 AM
So let me get this right.

The republicans are complaining about voter fraud while... committing voter fraud?

The republicans are complaining about the debt after running up the debt?

The republicans complain about media bias while watching Fox news?

The republicans complain about Obama being divisive while complaing about half the country and blah people causing all the problems?


If only there was some word in the english language that could define this behavior.

And I think we have established that the best way to find out what the republicans have been doing lately is to listen to waht they are complaining about.

Ironic (or not) that so many of them are self loathing.
 
2012-10-01 08:46:20 AM
Maybe UN should send election observers to the US, like they do to other third world countries when elections...
 
2012-10-01 08:47:26 AM

bboy: I don't understand how trying to register Romney supporters to vote is illegal or wrong.

I'm the libbiest lib that ever libbed, and I know at least one person who works for a voter organization (non-profit) group that has no interest in registering Romney supporters. What's wrong with that?


There is nothing wrong with setting up registration drives in places that skew to one party. Both sides do that. However, you cannot refuse to register or disregard the registrations of people who don't like that particular party.
 
2012-10-01 08:48:50 AM
For the record - Acorn discovered and flagged bad registration cards themselves. In SAC's case, the cards were found by state election workers.
 
2012-10-01 08:48:55 AM

Felgraf: After all, if 90% of the African american population votes for the Democrats, then, well, fark it, toss all registrations from blacks. Sure, they'll catch some republicans, but statistically they'll screw over the Democrats a lot harder.


Sure, all I'm saying is if you're looking at how somebody dresses (since we're talking about an in-person voter registration drive), you can pretty easily do the same kind of math. Maybe not as precise, but still pretty good.

If all you had were names, addresses, and a map, you could make the same assumptions without seeing people.
 
2012-10-01 08:50:51 AM

Sybarite: [cdn2-b.examiner.com image 222x350]

I'd poll her.


I'd fark the crazy right out of her...
 
2012-10-01 08:52:05 AM

blastoh: So let me get this right.


You forgot a few:

The Republicans are complaining about Obama being ineffectual while filibustering and cock-blocking him at every opportunity.

The Republicans are complaining about Obama's drone strikes after dragging us into two wars and while itching for a third.

The Republicans are complaining about the "Threat" of Sharia law while trying to institute a Christian theocracy.

Honestly, we could list these off all day and never run out of ideas.
 
2012-10-01 08:52:12 AM

blastoh: So let me get this right.

The republicans are complaining about voter fraud while... committing voter fraud?

The republicans are complaining about the debt after running up the debt?

The republicans complain about media bias while watching Fox news?

The republicans complain about Obama being divisive while complaing about half the country and blah people causing all the problems?


If only there was some word in the english language that could define this behavior.

And I think we have established that the best way to find out what the republicans have been doing lately is to listen to waht they are complaining about.

Ironic (or not) that so many of them are self loathing.


the words you were looking for are 'hilariously sad'.
 
2012-10-01 08:52:25 AM

God-is-a-Taco: "The Rove" is used so often that any accusation from a GOP/Republican/Conservative should trigger an investigation into the relevant Republican people or organization. Immediately, if it's a serious allegation.

If Obama gets accused of being a lizardman, then we need thermal scanners installed at GOP conventions.


You are so correct. When I think of it, at least in the past ten years as the echo chamber finally sealed them off from reality, there isn't a single accusation which hasn't turned out to be a projection of their own actions.

Think about that for a second and think about the movie "2016". Then think about all the policies Republicans support which gut labor laws, educaction, infrastructure, healthcare, social safety nets, etc. Then compare that to President Obama's policies to grow and empower the middle class. Which policies are more in line with creating the conditions of a 3rd world country and which is more in line with that of a modern first world nation? Makes you wonder what else is discussed in those closed session Romney fundraisers which we haven't heard.
 
2012-10-01 08:53:57 AM

not5am: themindiswatching: propasaurus: Strategic Allied Consulting was paid $3 million by the RNC, $400k by the Colorado GOP, another $1.3 million by the Florida GOP, just to name a few. Not bad for a company that just opened up in June. The owner's other company is on the payroll of the Romney campaign.

So...legalized money laundering?

$400K is half of colorado gop's budget. are they looking to bankrupt themselves?


They're going for the Hail Mary of "winning by preventing Democrats from casting votes in the first place." Since they know they can't win fair and square, they're trying to win by hook and crook.

Besides, they don't need to worry about having a budget of under one million dollars when the Super PACs have budgets of hundreds of millions or even billions.
 
2012-10-01 08:54:49 AM

stoli n coke: bboy: I don't understand how trying to register Romney supporters to vote is illegal or wrong.

I'm the libbiest lib that ever libbed, and I know at least one person who works for a voter organization (non-profit) group that has no interest in registering Romney supporters. What's wrong with that?

There is nothing wrong with setting up registration drives in places that skew to one party. Both sides do that. However, you cannot refuse to register or disregard the registrations of people who don't like that particular party.


IIRC from the first thread, there weren't actually any laws against that.
If the girl was in fact working for the county clerk's office like she claimed, then it would have been illegal, since the county clerk's office is supposed to be nonpartisan. But when an independent group does it, it's not illegal.
Saying that you work for the County Clerk when you really don't, definitely sounds like it should be illegal though, even if driven by stupidity.
 
2012-10-01 08:56:42 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: blastoh: So let me get this right.

You forgot a few:

The Republicans are complaining about Obama being ineffectual while filibustering and cock-blocking him at every opportunity.

The Republicans are complaining about Obama's drone strikes after dragging us into two wars and while itching for a third.

The Republicans are complaining about the "Threat" of Sharia law while trying to institute a Christian theocracy.

Honestly, we could list these off all day and never run out of ideas.


If you actually understood what they stand for you'd know why they oppose Obama's ideas. They oppose drones because they don't lead to occupation, and in their mind, colonies. They oppose Sharia because you can't have a theocracy of two religions. It only looks like hypocrisy from a distance. It's actually just plain stupid evil.
 
2012-10-01 08:56:46 AM

Whiskey Pete: The word is that some Teatards are going to do something to disrupt voting in Ohio. Has anyone else heard of this?


If you're referring to "True the Vote", yes they are active in Ohio. To what extent, I don't know.

I live in what used to be a safely Republican district. It was recently merged with the former 3rd Congressional district when the new Ohio district map was formulated, to create an all-new 10th Ohio Congressional district (the former 10th district is in northern Ohio, represented by Dennis Kucinich).

I know an election official who is a Teatard. She assumes I am too, since we both attend the same church, and we are 53 percenters. She has stated that there will be extensive GOP scrutiny of the polling stations on the west side of the district (i.e. them Dayton darkies), but she views it as counteracting Democrat cheating by the "food stamp army", and that she's sure the GOP's efforts will be perfectly legal.

Booga booga

More booga booga
 
2012-10-01 08:57:02 AM

serial_crusher: If the girl was in fact working for the county clerk's office like she claimed, then it would have been illegal, since the county clerk's office is supposed to be nonpartisan. But when an independent group does it, it's not illegal.


I should have clarified, when an independent group chooses to not give registration forms to "certain people" that's not illegal. Accepting a completed form and throwing it out is illegal, not what happened here.
 
2012-10-01 08:57:06 AM

heavymetal: You are so correct. When I think of it, at least in the past ten years as the echo chamber finally sealed them off from reality, there isn't a single accusation which hasn't turned out to be a projection of their own actions.


It almost makes me wonder which high-ranking Republican faked his birth certificate. :P
 
2012-10-01 08:58:46 AM

serial_crusher: Jorn the Younger: serial_crusher: James F. Campbell: Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican. Is that about right, you evil shiat-sucking bottom-feeding coelacanth-molesting scumbags?

The Republicans fired SAC. The Democrats made excuses for ACORN.

Republicans HIRED SAC after they were caught doing the same shiat four years ago, but asked them to change their name.

Do you have a citation on them being "caught" 4 years ago? I don't follow these guys that closely, so I hadn't heard that before this thread. The closest thing I can find is the blurb on their website about spurious allegations that they were cleared of, but then again their website isn't really an impartial source.


A brief venture into the Google Tubes took led me to this: Link There's an Olberman report from 2008 embedded in the article also, relevent to this starts at about 2:27- prior to that it's about a different group of Republican Voter Registration Fraudsters, but at 2:27 he gets to Sproules.

Also found This on HuffPo, though unfortunately it looks like some of their citation links are no longer valid.

I may do some more thorough research once I'm home from work, if I feel like continuing to indulge your delusions.

/Probably wont, so don't hold your breath
//or do, if you like, whatever works for you.
 
2012-10-01 08:59:00 AM

Parthenogenetic: Whiskey Pete: The word is that some Teatards are going to do something to disrupt voting in Ohio. Has anyone else heard of this?

If you're referring to "True the Vote", yes they are active in Ohio. To what extent, I don't know.

I live in what used to be a safely Republican district. It was recently merged with the former 3rd Congressional district when the new Ohio district map was formulated, to create an all-new 10th Ohio Congressional district (the former 10th district is in northern Ohio, represented by Dennis Kucinich).

I know an election official who is a Teatard. She assumes I am too, since we both attend the same church, and we are 53 percenters. She has stated that there will be extensive GOP scrutiny of the polling stations on the west side of the district (i.e. them Dayton darkies), but she views it as counteracting Democrat cheating by the "food stamp army", and that she's sure the GOP's efforts will be perfectly legal.

Booga booga

More booga booga


If she tells you this in official communication, please keep copies of it. It may be needed as evidence later.
 
2012-10-01 08:59:15 AM

bboy: I don't understand how trying to register Romney supporters to vote is illegal or wrong.


Trying? That's not illegal. Arguably wrong, but not illegal. For example, you could intentionally not knock on doors your know to be democratic voters. But once somebody requests a form or hands you a completed one you're obligated to turn it in. It's to prevent people like this nitwit from just whipping your form in the trash so that you think you're registered only to find out on election day you can't vote.
 
2012-10-01 08:59:35 AM
CSB

A few weeks back, walking through the student union, some friends and I walked passed the college republican tent. One of them asked one of us if we would like to register republican, and he said no thank you. I then heard him mutter under his breath, "didn't think so". I confronted the guy about this, and he told me he was talking about someone else. I then asked him if he would register me if I told him I was going to vote democratic, and he said no, that his boss wouldn't allow that. Someone else them came over, about 5 minutes into the conversation, backtracking the situation, saying that as a matter of fact, they had already registered 2 democrats that day.

After that, ive had no trouble believing all of the crap coming out about these registration companies.
 
2012-10-01 08:59:41 AM

serial_crusher: stoli n coke: bboy: I don't understand how trying to register Romney supporters to vote is illegal or wrong.

I'm the libbiest lib that ever libbed, and I know at least one person who works for a voter organization (non-profit) group that has no interest in registering Romney supporters. What's wrong with that?

There is nothing wrong with setting up registration drives in places that skew to one party. Both sides do that. However, you cannot refuse to register or disregard the registrations of people who don't like that particular party.

IIRC from the first thread, there weren't actually any laws against that.
If the girl was in fact working for the county clerk's office like she claimed, then it would have been illegal, since the county clerk's office is supposed to be nonpartisan. But when an independent group does it, it's not illegal.
Saying that you work for the County Clerk when you really don't, definitely sounds like it should be illegal though, even if driven by stupidity.


Actually, any group taking voter registrations has to comply with FEC rules, one of which is you have to take and submit any registration that is given.

The fraudulent claim of saying she worked for the county clerk was just what caught her.
 
2012-10-01 09:01:45 AM
Fox News, I'll believe this when I see a credible news source report.............Oh, never mind.
 
2012-10-01 09:04:35 AM

Felgraf: I know an election official who is a Teatard. She assumes I am too, since we both attend the same church, and we are 53 percenters. She has stated that there will be extensive GOP scrutiny of the polling stations on the west side of the district (i.e. them Dayton darkies), but she views it as counteracting Democrat cheating by the "food stamp army", and that she's sure the GOP's efforts will be perfectly legal.

Booga booga

More booga booga

If she tells you this in official communication, please keep copies of it. It may be needed as evidence later.


While she is a Teatard, she is not that dumb.

And she's not the one doing the electoral shenanigans. It's the local GOP, and their allies - in this case, True The Vote.
 
2012-10-01 09:07:11 AM

RubberBandMan: Fox News, I'll believe this when I see a credible news source report.............Oh, never mind.


Local affiliates aren't the same as the cable news channel.
 
2012-10-01 09:10:28 AM

Jorn the Younger: What the frying fark does "conservative-looking" even mean? What are the criteria?


dimpost.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-01 09:11:57 AM

Jorn the Younger: I may do some more thorough research once I'm home from work, if I feel like continuing to indulge your delusions.

/Probably wont, so don't hold your breath


Can't watch Olbermann at work, and don't want to watch him when I get home. But, everything else in there is just referring back to the 2004 allegations (which Sproul was cleared of). Not seeing any smoking guns here. I could allege that the President is a secret muslim from Kenya, or that a former president orchestrated 9/11, and that wouldn't make either of those things true. An 8 year old discredited allegation doesn't carry a lot of weight in my mind.

stoli n coke: Actually, any group taking voter registrations has to comply with FEC rules, one of which is you have to take and submit any registration that is given.


See my clarification a few posts down. Is there an FEC rule that says you have to hand empty forms to anybody who asks for one?

Don't get me wrong, there should be. It's a dirty game, but not necessarily illegal.
 
2012-10-01 09:12:05 AM

serial_crusher: Altair: cman: To be fair, at least they fired them when the accusations were brought up.

You mean once they got caught? Yeah that's fair to your dear party, but not reality. Sorry, try again.

Yep, should fire everybody before they get caught. Who needs evidence or anything like that? They're republicans, so they must be up to something wrong.


or maybe not hiring a known corrupt company instead of just asking them to change their name so no one would be the wiser would have been a better choice.
 
2012-10-01 09:15:47 AM
If your electoral success depends upon only the right people voting you may not have an actual majority agreeing with you.
 
2012-10-01 09:16:12 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: heavymetal: You are so correct. When I think of it, at least in the past ten years as the echo chamber finally sealed them off from reality, there isn't a single accusation which hasn't turned out to be a projection of their own actions.

It almost makes me wonder which high-ranking Republican faked his birth certificate. :P


Well, McCain was born in Panama, and Romney was born to Mexican parents.
 
2012-10-01 09:16:51 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Jorn the Younger: What the frying fark does "conservative-looking" even mean? What are the criteria?

[dimpost.files.wordpress.com image 458x613]


That pic is derptastical in so many ways.
 
2012-10-01 09:24:54 AM
 
2012-10-01 09:25:27 AM
Already this year, the RNC has funneled more than $3.1 million to the company, just formed in June

Tell me more about how voter ID laws stop those nasty liberals from election fraud and won't stop the elderly, poor, and brown people from voting.
 
2012-10-01 09:25:58 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: blastoh: So let me get this right.

You forgot a few:

The Republicans are complaining about Obama being ineffectual while filibustering and cock-blocking him at every opportunity.

The Republicans are complaining about Obama's drone strikes after dragging us into two wars and while itching for a third.

The Republicans are complaining about the "Threat" of Sharia law while trying to institute a Christian theocracy.

Honestly, we could list these off all day and never run out of ideas.


The Republicans whined about Obama helping NATO in Libya, after they not only supported the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions, but after they biatched about Obama not doing anything in Libya.

The modern GOP are scum. Pure and simple.
 
2012-10-01 09:28:44 AM

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2012-10-01 09:31:58 AM

Hobodeluxe: Now we have news that Romney has ties to the vote counting machine mfgrs


At this point it would be faster to just explain the ways in which republicans are not actively undermining the very basis of American democracy.
 
2012-10-01 09:32:22 AM

Hobodeluxe: Now we have news that Romney has ties to the vote counting machine mfgrs


That's much worse than registration fraud. I hope the FBI or some sort of nonpartisan group is keeping an eye on these people.
 
2012-10-01 09:38:20 AM

Hobodeluxe: Now we have news that Romney has ties to the vote counting machine mfgrs


Is there a negative Republican stereotype that Romney doesn't embody?
 
2012-10-01 09:42:07 AM

stoli n coke: Hobodeluxe: Now we have news that Romney has ties to the vote counting machine mfgrs

Is there a negative Republican stereotype that Romney doesn't embody?


images.sodahead.com

Probably the "poor, unsophisticated hillbilly" segment of the GOP
 
2012-10-01 09:47:25 AM

imontheinternet: Hobodeluxe: Now we have news that Romney has ties to the vote counting machine mfgrs

That's much worse than registration fraud. I hope the FBI or some sort of nonpartisan group is keeping an eye on these people.


Ther is no way in hell Obama's not on top of that shiat.
 
2012-10-01 09:49:48 AM

flamingboar: First it was ACORN, now it is SAC. There is a joke there somewhere.


both nut related?
 
2012-10-01 09:50:00 AM

serial_crusher: Jorn the Younger: I may do some more thorough research once I'm home from work, if I feel like continuing to indulge your delusions.

/Probably wont, so don't hold your breath

Can't watch Olbermann at work, and don't want to watch him when I get home. But, everything else in there is just referring back to the 2004 allegations (which Sproul was cleared of). Not seeing any smoking guns here. I could allege that the President is a secret muslim from Kenya, or that a former president orchestrated 9/11, and that wouldn't make either of those things true. An 8 year old discredited allegation doesn't carry a lot of weight in my mind.

stoli n coke: Actually, any group taking voter registrations has to comply with FEC rules, one of which is you have to take and submit any registration that is given.

See my clarification a few posts down. Is there an FEC rule that says you have to hand empty forms to anybody who asks for one?

Don't get me wrong, there should be. It's a dirty game, but not necessarily illegal.


So they just wanted them to change their name for the LULZ . Got it.
 
2012-10-01 09:51:35 AM
Sproiul has been up to this stuff for years and years. Every time he gets caught, he just re-incorporates under a new name and goes right back to it. The Republicans know what he's up to - it's what they hire him for, after all - and have no interest in putting a stop to it.

Fun fact - Sproul is also involved in the for-profit education industry - charter schools and the like - and he's profited handsomely from the efforts of Republican legislators in several states. Funny, that.

One more thing - anyone who tries to draw any equivalency between this neanderfark and the ACORN allegations is either being intellectually dishonest or really, really dumb.
 
2012-10-01 09:56:25 AM

cirby: James F. Campbell:
Let me guess: Democrats do it too, so vote Republican.

More like "Democrats have been doing it too, for years, and in wholesale lots." And they're still doing it.

There were two women doing voter registration downtown just the other day. They were going about it in an interesting fashion - they'd go to young women and minorities, but go out of their way to avoid men or conservative-looking white women.

This has been the standard practice for years of Democrat-sponsored voter registration drives: either ignore anyone who didn't "look" right, or only go to places for voter registration drives where they'd get strong Democrat support. Of course, the real issue with the Democrat registration drives by groups like ACORN wasn't in only registering one party's voters, but in making up fake Democrat registrations and discarding registrations for the Republicans...


Threats everywhere! Reds! Libs! Women! Minorities! Conservatives, commence wetting pants!
 
2012-10-01 09:56:28 AM
It should probably be pointed out that ACORN, as an organization, was cleared of all accusations it was encouraging voter-fraud. IIRC the most that could be proved was that two temporary employees in the Midwest had provided false registration docs to ACORN to pad their monthly numbers, which is a fraud against ACORN, not by it. Of course, it had already been all but attained by Congress and dismantled by the Dems at that point...
 
2012-10-01 09:56:53 AM

Parthenogenetic: stoli n coke: Hobodeluxe: Now we have news that Romney has ties to the vote counting machine mfgrs

Is there a negative Republican stereotype that Romney doesn't embody?

[images.sodahead.com image 232x350]

Probably the "poor, unsophisticated hillbilly" segment of the GOP


Apparently you're unaware of Flop, the son that they "don't talk about".
 
2012-10-01 09:58:30 AM

cirby: Of course, the real issue with the Democrat registration drives by groups like ACORN wasn't in only registering one party's voters, but in making up fake Democrat registrations and discarding registrations for the Republicans...


You're a liar and from now on your claims can simply be ignored as you are not a credible person.
 
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