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2012-10-01 10:19:33 AM
5 votes:
The usual silliness:

"He's a good kid, he works hard, keeps his nose clean."

Except for that bust where they caught him with another 30-something woman's credit card, jumping a turnstile.

It's the "he's a good kid" mentality that keeps victimizers on the street.
2012-10-01 10:58:49 AM
4 votes:

Alonjar: Something about this just seems off.

I'm going to go with she was actually raped, but she didnt bother trying to stop him or fight him off. He just told her to be quiet and she did what he wanted.


Which is very possible, and people who know anything about rape wouldn't blame her - real people seize up with fear and shock, but try telling that to all of the people who will say "Why didn't you just scream and fight him off? Maybe you really wanted it?" and you start lying quick. TV shows always show rape/murder victims with skin under their nails and other signs of struggle, but the majority actually comply and just zone out to another place while they hope it's over quick. Unfortunately, if it is a lie and they find no bruises, she'll be torn apart when it goes to court and made to look as if she must have wanted it, which will be a travesty of justice.
2012-10-01 10:44:32 AM
3 votes:
This one delivery guy creeped me right the fark out a few months ago... the whole sneering eyes and smirk, and of course the tone of his voice as he tried to 'compliment' me... it wasn't a compliment, it was... gah, giving myself the heebie jeebies just thinking about it. I've been stared at and had nasty things said to me by strangers before and while annoying I'd simply ignore, not a big deal.
This guy, it was different, and he was at my front door. I gave him my very best evil eye, scratched out the tip I had written on the charge receipt and told him to fark off. The dog picks up my uneasiness and starts growling so he scampered off.
Then called the restaurant back and told them never to send that driver back to my place. They let me know that my complaint was the fifth they had received in the week he had been working for them.
2012-10-01 10:40:40 AM
3 votes:
FTFA: "He covered my mouth and told me to be quiet. He said 'sshhh.' I kicked him and I pushed him. He was a little guy."

I'm not saying that I think she's lying, but this doesn't seem to make sense. If he was a little guy then how was she not able to fend him off? Also, if she was actually trying to fight him off as she said, what kind of kid wouldn't wake up with that going on right next to them in the same bed?

FTFA: But the victim wasn't buying it. "These a--holes are going to say he's a good kid? I want that pizzeria to pay," she fumed.

Maybe she's just irrationally angry, but the fact that she would say something like this makes me even more suspicious.
2012-10-01 10:32:05 AM
3 votes:
That was a terribly written article.
2012-10-01 10:20:56 AM
3 votes:
I hope he's put away for a long time. But it should be a reminder that even in any type of apt. building you don't leave doors unlocked. At least the woman wasn't murdered.
2012-10-01 09:40:22 AM
3 votes:

cman: Pizza and sex? Thats a hell of a deal


Sounded to me like it was an offer she couldn't refuse.
2012-10-01 11:04:00 AM
2 votes:

lennavan: I want the world to know he raped me while my 7-year-old was asleep next to me

The suspect eventually fled, taking the woman's iPhone and $20 from her daughter's wallet, the victim said.

He covered my mouth and told me to be quiet. He said 'sshhh.' I kicked him and I pushed him. He was a little guy

I dunno, I just keep thinkin shenanigans. If you take everything she says at face value:

1) There is no mention of a weapon.
2) A 16 year old "little guy" over powered her in her bed.
3) He was savagely raped her while overpowering her kicks and pushes but in a manner so as not to wake the 7 year old.
4) Her 7 year old has $20 in a wallet.

Sorry, there's just zero chance this was savage rape. Rape is bad, so is lying about it.


1. If you are in fear for your life and the life of your child you're most likely going to assume someone trying to rape you came armed and will kill you.

2. Small does not mean weak.

3. I have a friend who admitted she and her husband had vigorous sex while sharing their bed with their 4yo, the kid didnt wake up. Which is farking gross wtf. My 7yo and baby have slept through tornado sirens, an earthquake, and our security alarm going off at 2am. When I was a kid our car got side swiped by a semi, my brother was 3 and asleep on the back seat, didnt wake up. Some kids will sleep through damn near anything.

4. My 7yo has $40, shes been saving it for months. Its in a purse though, not a wallet
2012-10-01 10:59:00 AM
2 votes:

LesserEvil: lock


Indeed, this guy was an opportunist and she became the opportunity by leaving her door unlocked. While it's terrible what happened to her, he would've moved on if she had locked the door.

Locks don't keep people out who really want to get in. They stop opportunists and keep honest people honest as well as to slow down people who really want to get in. But you can't expect to build anything to keep everyone out short of a vault in the middle of a military base. Even then, you can be thwarted by hot chicks flying around and spraying sleeping gas. But they're vulnerable to Sean Connery.

Either way, I hope this guy enjoys Rikers Island and Sing Sing.
2012-10-01 10:45:05 AM
2 votes:

lennavan: I want the world to know he raped me while my 7-year-old was asleep next to me

The suspect eventually fled, taking the woman's iPhone and $20 from her daughter's wallet, the victim said.

He covered my mouth and told me to be quiet. He said 'sshhh.' I kicked him and I pushed him. He was a little guy

I dunno, I just keep thinkin shenanigans. If you take everything she says at face value:

1) There is no mention of a weapon.
2) A 16 year old "little guy" over powered her in her bed.
3) He was savagely raped her while overpowering her kicks and pushes but in a manner so as not to wake the 7 year old.
4) Her 7 year old has $20 in a wallet.

Sorry, there's just zero chance this was savage rape. Rape is bad, so is lying about it.


Yeah, something with the story (like most of it) sounds like a bad movie plot. TBH, if she's telling the truth, he deserves prison. OTOH, if she's making this up, she deserves prison.
2012-10-01 10:37:18 AM
2 votes:
This kid sounds like a sociopath. Send him to Rape Island.
2012-10-01 10:32:11 AM
2 votes:
When we were kids, my sister and I stayed at home alone during the summer while mom worked. Once a week or so, she'd leave us pizza money. We were dumb kids, so we never even thought of tipping the driver. All through elementary and middle school we ordered from Dominos, which was the only pizza that tasted good to us.

When I was old enough to drive, I got a job at that Dominos delievering pizzas myself. I learned firsthand that the drivers do not even make minimum wage. They have to rely on tips to make any money at all. So I can definately see how a delivery guy might get frustrated if someone wasn't tipping right.

The Dominos where I worked had this old 486 that they ran everything off. One slow afternoon, I was wandering through the file system and came across a password protected folder that was labeled with my home address. After a few tries, I guessed the password - AVOIDNOID69. Inside were hundreds of pictures of former dominos delivery guys, managers, even the owner, doing terrible things to pizzas - spitting on them, blowing their noses on them, wiping themselves with the crusts, even masturbating each other into their cheese. I couldn't help it - I threw up all over the monitor and keyboard.

I've long since switched to DiGiorno, but all secrets be told, I squeeze my dog and make him piss all over it before I bake it. I guess your tastes are all defined by what you grew up with.
2012-10-01 10:31:29 AM
2 votes:
I want the world to know he raped me while my 7-year-old was asleep next to me

The suspect eventually fled, taking the woman's iPhone and $20 from her daughter's wallet, the victim said.

He covered my mouth and told me to be quiet. He said 'sshhh.' I kicked him and I pushed him. He was a little guy


I dunno, I just keep thinkin shenanigans. If you take everything she says at face value:

1) There is no mention of a weapon.
2) A 16 year old "little guy" over powered her in her bed.
3) He was savagely raped her while overpowering her kicks and pushes but in a manner so as not to wake the 7 year old.
4) Her 7 year old has $20 in a wallet.

Sorry, there's just zero chance this was savage rape. Rape is bad, so is lying about it.
2012-10-01 10:23:40 AM
2 votes:
"Law-enforcement sources said he tried a few doorknobs until he found the victim's unlocked - and went inside."

It's not her fault, but truly, lock your door. Naive or just stupid, and now a rape victim.
2012-10-01 10:18:35 AM
2 votes:
Why is the word raped in quotation marks? Was it not legitimate?
2012-10-01 10:17:56 AM
2 votes:
$20 from her daughter's wallet

So her 7/yo has a wallet and carries around 20s?
2012-10-01 10:16:55 AM
2 votes:
So what is worse ... 'rape' or rape?
2012-10-01 10:16:28 AM
2 votes:
I guess they both wanted a slice.
2012-10-01 10:14:44 AM
2 votes:
I hope this guy gets raped in 30 minutes or less
2012-10-01 06:24:42 PM
1 votes:
Since he was 16, and therefore a minor, doesn't this mean that, technically, she raped him???
2012-10-01 12:39:14 PM
1 votes:

lennavan: precious_crotchflake: A baby-faced pizza-delivery boy confessed to savagely raping a woman in her Upper West Side apartment while her young daughter slept next to her in bed - because he was "feeling horny," court papers state."

You realize the only part of this that was quoted from the court papers is the "feeling horny" part, right? That's why they only put quotations around that phrase. Then if you read more than the first farking sentence of the article, you can see the context:

Lucas admitted he snuck into the woman's apartment without permission, "but that he went in because he was feeling horny and that he took advantage of her," prosecutors said.

Court Papers: "He went in because he was feeling horny"
Article/You: "he admitted he raped her!"

Are you intelligent enough to see what just happened there and why a newspaper might stretch the truth to get better headlines and sell copies? Man you're a dipshiat.


She's just following the Second Law of Histrionic Feminism:

"II. Anyone who questions any aspect of a womyn's rape claim, regardless of how implausible that claim may be, must be shamed into silence."
2012-10-01 12:34:43 PM
1 votes:

precious_crotchflake: A baby-faced pizza-delivery boy confessed to savagely raping a woman in her Upper West Side apartment while her young daughter slept next to her in bed - because he was "feeling horny," court papers state."


You realize the only part of this that was quoted from the court papers is the "feeling horny" part, right? That's why they only put quotations around that phrase. Then if you read more than the first farking sentence of the article, you can see the context:

Lucas admitted he snuck into the woman's apartment without permission, "but that he went in because he was feeling horny and that he took advantage of her," prosecutors said.

Court Papers: "He went in because he was feeling horny"
Article/You: "he admitted he raped her!"

Are you intelligent enough to see what just happened there and why a newspaper might stretch the truth to get better headlines and sell copies? Man you're a dipshiat.
2012-10-01 12:34:15 PM
1 votes:
"I'm scared. I want to sleep with a chain on and I'm going to keep the door locked,"

Even I keep the door chained and locked at all times and I'm 6'2", 220lbs. She's a godamned idiot if this wasn't a case where it was mistakenly left unsecured.
2012-10-01 12:27:08 PM
1 votes:

lennavan: My argument here is - "this is not savage rape." That's it.


Com'on Len. And the girl who's drink gets spikked then passes out... that's not a 'savage rape' either cause she didn't fight back. Or the girl who's too scared to try and fight off her attacker and therefore doesn't have any bruises. The argument just sounds a bit too legitimately rapey...

On the record, I haven't formed any opinion on this one yet. Not enough info.
2012-10-01 12:24:07 PM
1 votes:

lennavan: precious_crotchflake: lennavan: precious_crotchflake: I'm totally not getting the blatant rape deniying from otherwise reasonable Farkers in this thread. Is there some ironic new meme I missed out on?

"Some little dude savagely raped me while my daughter slept next to me and she never woke up. I want the pizzaria he works for to pay."

Seems legit.

did you see the part where he confessed?

The part where he confessed to entering her apartment while horny? Yeah I did. My argument here is - "this is not savage rape." That's it.

precious_crotchflake: I think you're going more by the "I'm not going to believe her even though there's no evidence that she's lying" technique.

Also known as the "innocent until proven guilty" technique? WTF is that shiat, right?


No, no. The part where he confessed to raping her. Whatever people think "savage" is is moot.
(But keep going with your troll. It's important to make a point that some people actually believe that shiat. Thanks for your work, man. Someone has to do the dirty stuff)
2012-10-01 12:15:39 PM
1 votes:

lennavan: skullkrusher: lennavan: Quaker: I'm not saying that I think she's lying

I'll say it. She's lying.

apparently he is as well since he confessed

I don't doubt he entered her apartment, maybe even grabbed her cooch or something. It's not savage rape.


I know, what a lying biatch. There's "rape," "rape-rape," "legitimate rape" "snuggly and cuddly rape," "professional rape" "gluten-free rape" and "savage rape." Her imprecision is just irresponsible.
2012-10-01 12:03:25 PM
1 votes:
I'm totally not getting the blatant rape deniying from otherwise reasonable Farkers in this thread. Is there some ironic new meme I missed out on?
2012-10-01 11:53:26 AM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Linked article is a few days old

 

Cool. Thanks.

Wonder if the "she's lying" crowd will stop.
2012-10-01 11:51:36 AM
1 votes:
I am still shocked that someone living in NYC would leave the door unlocked at any time in the day, let alone when sleeping.
2012-10-01 11:48:56 AM
1 votes:
I was skeptical up until she was quoted as saying the pizza place "has to pay" and NOW she'll start chaining her door at nights. Then I realized that there's a good probability that she's full of shiat. Chances are, her married lover that was paying her bills is no longer doing so, so she's trying to find another payday someplace else.
2012-10-01 11:07:14 AM
1 votes:

gunga galunga: CapeFearCadaver: This one delivery guy creeped me right the fark out a few months ago... the whole sneering eyes and smirk, and of course the tone of his voice as he tried to 'compliment' me... it wasn't a compliment, it was... gah, giving myself the heebie jeebies just thinking about it. I've been stared at and had nasty things said to me by strangers before and while annoying I'd simply ignore, not a big deal.
This guy, it was different, and he was at my front door. I gave him my very best evil eye, scratched out the tip I had written on the charge receipt and told him to fark off. The dog picks up my uneasiness and starts growling so he scampered off.
Then called the restaurant back and told them never to send that driver back to my place. They let me know that my complaint was the fifth they had received in the week he had been working for them.

You think they would have canned his ass after the second complaint.


That was my sentiment as well...
2012-10-01 10:54:39 AM
1 votes:

JackieRabbit: SpectroBoy: Why is 'raped' in quotes? Is there concern that this was not legitimate rape?

She could be making the whole thing up. Many rape claims are completely false. Just this weekend in New York, Lindsay Lohan accused a 25 year old man she invited to her hotel room of assaulting her. The guy was arrested. Later all charges against him were dropped and the arrest record expunged. It turns out nothing really happened except that she picked him up in a club, brought him back to her hotel room at 4:30 am to fark him, found pictures of her he had taken with his cell phone at the club and she went nutzso and called the cops.


Lindsay Lohan is as far into the redline on the crazy meter as you can get. She's so far off the charts that even thinking of sticking your dick in that is enough to make you regret it for life; if you actually did, your dick would probably explode in a shower of gore. Please don't generalize anything about the human race from her again.
2012-10-01 10:50:46 AM
1 votes:
It amazes me that someone living in a city doesn't lock their door.
2012-10-01 10:49:38 AM
1 votes:

lennavan: I want the world to know he raped me while my 7-year-old was asleep next to me

The suspect eventually fled, taking the woman's iPhone and $20 from her daughter's wallet, the victim said.

He covered my mouth and told me to be quiet. He said 'sshhh.' I kicked him and I pushed him. He was a little guy

I dunno, I just keep thinkin shenanigans. If you take everything she says at face value:

1) There is no mention of a weapon.
2) A 16 year old "little guy" over powered her in her bed.
3) He was savagely raped her while overpowering her kicks and pushes but in a manner so as not to wake the 7 year old.
4) Her 7 year old has $20 in a wallet.

Sorry, there's just zero chance this was savage rape. Rape is bad, so is lying about it.


Nah, all of that just makes her sound like a precious snowflake herself, who was unable to conceive of anything bad happening to her because she lives in a gated apartment in the good side of town. The Post is sleazy enough that they would have mentioned if the kid's side was that she opened the door wearing nothing but a robe as he was walking back to work. Lurid stories sell papers, the only thing more lurid than rape by a possibly-illegal is a young white mother seducing a possibly-illegal boy and crying rape.
2012-10-01 10:46:11 AM
1 votes:

CapeFearCadaver: This one delivery guy creeped me right the fark out a few months ago... the whole sneering eyes and smirk, and of course the tone of his voice as he tried to 'compliment' me... it wasn't a compliment, it was... gah, giving myself the heebie jeebies just thinking about it. I've been stared at and had nasty things said to me by strangers before and while annoying I'd simply ignore, not a big deal.
This guy, it was different, and he was at my front door. I gave him my very best evil eye, scratched out the tip I had written on the charge receipt and told him to fark off. The dog picks up my uneasiness and starts growling so he scampered off.
Then called the restaurant back and told them never to send that driver back to my place. They let me know that my complaint was the fifth they had received in the week he had been working for them.


He'll probably get promoted to manager.
2012-10-01 10:43:39 AM
1 votes:

lennavan: Quaker: I'm not saying that I think she's lying

I'll say it. She's lying.


apparently he is as well since he confessed
2012-10-01 10:42:14 AM
1 votes:

Quaker: I'm not saying that I think she's lying


I'll say it. She's lying.
2012-10-01 10:40:07 AM
1 votes:
That 7 y/o must be a sound sleeper, or mama's not a screamer.
2012-10-01 10:38:56 AM
1 votes:
Why is 'raped' in quotes? Is there concern that this was not legitimate rape?
2012-10-01 10:35:17 AM
1 votes:

gonzojohn: FTA: He delivered a pizza on her floor, then tried doorknobs untill he found one open.

Gunnery SGT Hartman: "I am dissappoint".


Yeah. I don't understand why people don't lock their doors. This isn't rocket science. It's terrible what happened to her, and she is a victim, but she didn't do herself or her daughter any favors by leaving the door unlocked.

I hope this kid is tried as an adult and spends 10~20 years in prison, but it's more likely he'll just end up in Juvie until he's 21 and be released.
2012-10-01 10:32:12 AM
1 votes:

abhorrent1: $20 from her daughter's wallet

So her 7/yo has a wallet and carries around 20s?


She had a grand total of $20 in her wallet.

Are you from the 1800s or something?
2012-10-01 10:28:58 AM
1 votes:
He delivered pizza to someone else in the building, so he wasn't her pizza delivery boy, he was only her rapist.
hej
2012-10-01 10:25:17 AM
1 votes:
"He violated us, it's disgusting - roaming around apartments looking to hurt people while you're working."

Not sure why this is qualified with "while you're working."
2012-10-01 10:25:01 AM
1 votes:
'raped'?? Did Akin write this article?
2012-10-01 10:23:14 AM
1 votes:
"A baby-faced pizza-delivery boy savagely raped a woman..."

That's nothing; a pizza-faced delivery boy savagely raped a woman here recently.
2012-10-01 10:21:15 AM
1 votes:
I am here to fix ze cable, ich bin expert.
2012-10-01 10:20:39 AM
1 votes:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Why is the word raped in quotation marks? Was it not legitimate?


that's part of the Post's style. Meant to denote allegations prior to trial.
2012-10-01 09:07:14 AM
1 votes:
Pizza and sex? Thats a hell of a deal
 
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