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2003-11-27 01:56:45 AM  
Yes. They said you needed soap, so OBVIOUSLY THEY REALLY MEAN they are the superior race.

I think mister Cox is going to need some extra study time to pass those PolSci exams.
 
2003-11-27 01:59:12 AM  
Well, can we at least agree that the girl on the left looks like something out of Something Wicked This Way Comes?
 
2003-11-27 02:01:03 AM  
BigJake

No, I'm just pointing out that a lot of libs lick Castro's boots on one hand and then have a hissy about the Patriot Act on the other, an act of stunning willful ignorance and moral hypocrisy.


Really. Even if it was true about Castro, and maybe it is, what do I know, what does that have to do with the Patriot Act?

Does Castro threaten the US Constitution?

Castro is interesting in the same manner Nixon is interesting. How the hell does he do it? STILL. That's an amazing political story. Just like Nixon.
 
2003-11-27 02:01:22 AM  
BigJake

"No, I'm just pointing out that a lot of libs lick Castro's boots on one hand and then have a hissy about the Patriot Act on the other, an act of stunning willful ignorance and moral hypocrisy."

Just like a lot of conservatives call themselves Christians, while cheering on an administration that causes the deaths of soldiers and innocents in a needless war, an act of stunning willful ignorance and moral hypocrisy. And that's not even mentioning the right's opposition to universal health care, which I'm pretty sure is a fairly christian ideal.

And btw, Neither I, nor any of the other lefty posters have ever cheered for Castro on these boards. At least not to my knowledge
 
2003-11-27 02:02:55 AM  
Actually, Bush did delay an execution, when some not-available-at-the-time DNA tests were to be conducted. They proved the person in question guilty, and he fried as he ought to have.

Also, you ducked the issue of Castro loving on the left. As for Bush standing up and making a gaseous statement, if wishes were horses...

Guess it depends on your definition of need. I certainly think it was necessary, as do a majority of Americans.
 
2003-11-27 02:04:40 AM  
I like Pizza hot pockets.. because they have Cheese and Meat. How cool is that?!
 
2003-11-27 02:04:47 AM  
Christ never ONCE said that the state was the appropriate apparatus for delivering social services. That role was reserved to the church and to individuals, and he only demanded 10% for it. And no, the war was NOT needless. As for Castro, your ideological soul mates do it ALL THE FRICKIN' TIME.

Off to watch some gratuitous nudity; back in awhile.
 
2003-11-27 02:06:30 AM  
Cake Hunter

Well guys, we've all made some solid, well-reasoned arguments here tonight. I'm certainly glad that we've all settled our differences rationally and with a buttload of civility. You can't imagine my relief that neither side resorted to name calling and first-grade turns-of-phrase like 'rethuglican' or 'dumbocrat.'

What? Purposeful political discussion is dead?

Damn.


Yes, now we're trying to get BigJake to cleanse his dirty soul with the liberal soap of goodness and light and move away from the Dark Side of conservative evil.

//Actually, it's just a classier version of Rethuglican and Dumbocrat. (You should always capitalize those, BTW - otherwise, people will think you are talking about high concepts rather than political parties)
 
2003-11-27 02:08:32 AM  
BigJake

No, I'm just pointing out that a lot of libs lick Castro's boots on one hand and then have a hissy about the Patriot Act on the other, an act of stunning willful ignorance and moral hypocrisy.

Well, ever since Kennedy and the Cuban missile crisis, the Democrats turned back Communism without a war and kept Cuba an economically isolated poor island. Castro is almost dead, once he is gone the political makeup there will crumble, probably with US help. Are we supposed to belive that little broke Cuba is now a comunist threat again? And that has what to do with the Patriot Act?What's the opportunity cost the nation has to pay for speeding up the inevitable?
 
2003-11-27 02:09:25 AM  
I now can see why Bush II likes to use the term 'evil' everywhere. It does have a power.

Move away from the evil, BigJake. Bwahahahahahaaaaa. Move into the light.

Not the porno light, you numbskull! :D Nobody said anything about moving into the porno light. Oh, gad! We've lost another one to porno. And we just about converted him to liberalism. Rats.
 
2003-11-27 02:12:49 AM  
Yes, now we're trying to get BigJake to cleanse his dirty soul with the liberal soap of goodness and light and move away from the Dark Side of conservative evil.

Well, as long as it's goodness, i guess i can get behind it.

//I wouldn't do an ad for...hate!
 
2003-11-27 02:15:59 AM  
Anybody else notice that this guys e-mail, postal (physical), and office addresses are listed on the UCLA home page? Additionally, his home and office phone numbers are there. I am continually suprised that Universities give out so much info on their customers (students if you would rather) and staff (stuff that would get a corporation sued out of existence).
 
2003-11-27 02:17:37 AM  
BigJake


"Christ never ONCE said that the state was the appropriate apparatus for delivering social services."

You're right, but neither did I. I was simply talking about Universal health care in the abstract. The idea that everyone should have the right to be healthy and to medical attention, not just those who can afford it. Not want to speak for the big JC, I still think that he'd be supportive of that.


"And no, the war was NOT needless."

Yes it was. Everything we were told about Iraq was a lie. No nukes. No WMD's. No evidence of either. A program of sanctions and inspections that was getting results. A president and administration that were hell-bent on going to war.

"As for Castro, your ideological soul mates do it ALL THE FRICKIN' TIME."

Seeing as how this is the first time we've spoken, how is it that you can tell me who my soulmates are? I know it makes it easier for you if you believe that I'm some sort of hippy commie pinko, but the truth is I have short hair and a job. I don't protest the WTO, and I think it's high time the west stop courting China on the one hand and castigating it on the other. I don't believe in communism, and as far as Castro goes, I have heard good and bad about him, but I don't know enough about him and his regime to say for certain where I stand on Castro. So if I don't know, I find it hard to believe that from the postings you've read you can determine what I myself have yet to resolve. Feel free to lump me in with whoever you want, but I refuse to fit into your preconceived ideas of who I am and what I stand for.
 
2003-11-27 02:18:39 AM  
Actually, Liamwake, it was the democrats who supported slavery. Read your history.

/Also From the bountiful land of sour grapes, Canada.
 
2003-11-27 02:23:18 AM  
As a final note, I'm getting tired of being called or calling myself a liberal. The word has no real meaning anymore, other than the stereotypes that people use it to represent. I'm thinking that from now on, I'll refer to myself as progressive.

1) There's far less baggage
2) It sounds more optimistic (and I do want to be optimistic, difficult as it is)
3) It's harder to denigrate. What kind of idiot wants to be known as the guy who's against progress?

Any thoughts?
 
2003-11-27 02:25:40 AM  
Ecid:

The Houston Review: On it's main page, on the left, under Links:

Houston BUSCAR
The Texas Pilgrim
CNS News
Drudge Report
Newsmax
Washington Times
World Net Daily


Thanks for providing us with an unbiased, honest, and even handed look at the issues. Dunce.
 
2003-11-27 02:27:04 AM  
Anti Progress or Anti Liberace... hard to pick
 
2003-11-27 02:28:09 AM  
Ecid:

And at the very bottom:

"The Houston Review - A conservative student monthly serving the Houston area."
 
2003-11-27 02:40:48 AM  
Ecid, if you had actually read the thread, you'd have noticed that the historical Democrat/Republican flip-flop has been hashed over already. But if you're nice maybe Chelsea will let you hold the soap bar.
 
2003-11-27 02:44:36 AM  
DrBenway

Funny you should mention Chelsea. Having been roundly humiliated in this thread, he's gone to the Bush/Nevaduh thread, where he cast the same neanderthal line, despite it being completely irrelevant to the topic. I'll bet half the people posting in there went "wha--?".
 
2003-11-27 03:00:37 AM  
Hippies. The Anti-soap.
 
2003-11-27 03:17:02 AM  
I'd say it would be a close contest between petulent little geeks sitting at their computers and the hippies they're making fun of for who smells worse.
 
2003-11-27 03:23:29 AM  
Xtremehkr, if Kennedy were running for President today I'd vote for him. He was anticommunist, pro-business, and cut taxes. He wasn't a tax-loving liberal pussy like the Nine Dwarves (o.k., eight, Lieberman's not a foreign-policy pussy.) He and other good Democrats like Sam Nunn and Warren Magnuson no longer exist.

Liberalism/socialism reduces freedom, and as long as that is true, I will never call myself a liberal. A state that mandates how you are to allocate your life's work via exorbitant taxes is not a state that supports a truly free society. No one ever said "Give me Social Security benefits or give me death," it was "Give me LIBERTY or give me death." A state that takes 40+% of your money in taxes (fed, state, local combined) has reached the limit of what can reasonably be referred to as a free society, more and we become servants of the state, if we haven't already. Liberals are the ones who need to cleanse their souls with the light of liberty.

My point about Castro is that he commits ACTUAL human rights violations every day, including executions, and no prominent left-winger so much as utters a peep of criticism and they continue to advocate for him, but when Ashcroft says something about the (relatively benign) Patriot Act, all hell breaks loose. Incredible double standard.

Sanctions and inspections that were getting results? Do you live in the parallel universe where Spock has the beard? The inspections were accomplishing NOTHING, and Iraq still had tons and tons of WMD's they refused to account for. If they refused to account for them when they didn't exist out of sheer cussedness, they got what they had coming. Ample evidence has also come to light that what he was doing was retaining the ability to rapidly reconstitute his WMD programs to have them up and running again in a matter of a couple of months, again, reason enough to go in there. Classified memos have also recently come to light detailing around 10 years of contacts between Al-Queda and Iraq. Of course, even if a smoking gun was found, you'd probably just continue to chant BUSH LIED! and say something about how they were planted, or about how this is a criminal justice matter, or something else similarly asinine.

jdave, I can tell who your ideological soulmates are by the positions you've taken on this thread and the sneering, smug, holier-than-thou attitude you've taken in your posts, culminating with your self-labeling as a "progressive", possibly the biggest misnomer ever. You go ahead and refuse to be lumped in, and I will continue to accurately lump you in.
 
2003-11-27 03:29:00 AM  
Masters and Slaves

This is the first step to de-humanizing Computer hardware, and the worst part is, you can't even bathe IDE devices.

I love living in this world, non-stop entertainment.

Lemme get my checklist out:

Referring to inanimate computer objects as "Master and Slave" - BAD :-(

Killing the Unborn (Right, I know, "freedom of choice". Like the new Lite commercial song!) - OK!! :-D

"This Protest Needs Soap." - RACIST!! :-(

"...continue to resist any Neanderthal that is nominated..." - AMBIGUOUS, Cannot Possibly be Racially Motivated since it was "The Ted" that said it. :-D

I don't wanna put the whole list here, but maybe some of you could add to it. I wanna make sure I face each day correctly.

SERENITY NOW!
 
2003-11-27 03:31:37 AM  
Careful Atreyou, or Ted might invite you for a drive over a body of water.
 
2003-11-27 04:17:46 AM  
Chelsea Clinton, who has nothing to do with politics, and has done nothing but carry herself in a classy manner, unlike the drunken daughters of the deserter in chief.
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So he's a jerk for bagging on Chelsea Clinton, but it's ok for you to bag on the Bush twins? Not only that, you got it wrong. Chelsea Clinton got drunk on many occasions while at Oxford, and then behaved in a manner that would be hard to classify as classy. Still, college kids have a habit of doing that sort of thing. I got drunk and stupid many times at that age, so who am I to judge any of them?

Anyway, you probably don't care what I think, but I like reading exchanges like this since they allow me to compare what I read to my own views. You've made some points that I agree with, but the Clinton/Bush daughter comparison struck me as cheap, and not entirely accurate.
 
2003-11-27 04:24:48 AM  
I am just a poor minority, a poor soldier at that, and i can even see the slant in that piece.
 
2003-11-27 04:28:38 AM  
Oh yeah...as if a Ph.D. automatically qualifies you as intelligent.

The Ph.D.s at my mom's job send her email hoaxes, chain letters and email worms all the time.
 
2003-11-27 04:33:40 AM  
I think it's the Bush daughters who are cheap.
 
2003-11-27 04:50:30 AM  
Methinks Mike Cox doth protest too much.
 
2003-11-27 05:03:57 AM  
ZipBeep and jdave34

On the thread about Drudge's article regarding Howie Dean's brother, Borg posted that despite being a civilian, Charlie Dean was given POW/MIA status because of his family's money and connections. Here's the good part. Check out Chelsea's post:

2003-11-26 07:06:19 PM Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin


He was listed as a POW/MIA because of family money and connections

you can repeat this lie as often as you want, borg, but it won't make it true. put your totalfark money to better use and buy yourself a clue, sparky. mmmkay?


I'd think the obvious answer is that CCICTLT has a liberal Fark persona and for one reason or another is playing both sides of the field.

Interesting!

And just like being bisexual it doubles your chances of hits ;)
 
2003-11-27 08:49:40 AM  
jdave:

Saw that Kennedy bomb in the other thread. Pretty typical, unfortunately...
 
2003-11-27 08:59:52 AM  
XTREMEHKR you almost had me. Coming on here and saying that completely brain-dead BS trying to get people to respond to you. Nice try but there is no way in hell that anybody out there is that completely out of his gourd and means what you are saying. You are jut trying to get a little attention and it worked.

MONOBLACK I am a republican, I vote republican and I get a lot of trim in college and some if not most of it is from liberal chicks that just want to get laid. I can throw around some silly pre-concieved notions too, Liberal chicks are whores and will fark anybody that will listen to them for more than 5 minutes without punching them in the mouth.
 
2003-11-27 11:35:55 AM  
Ah, I love how tolerant those liberal schools are.
 
2003-11-27 11:52:15 AM  
betelgeux

XTREMEHKR you almost had me. Coming on here and saying that completely brain-dead BS trying to get people to respond to you. Nice try but there is no way in hell that anybody out there is that completely out of his gourd and means what you are saying. You are jut trying to get a little attention and it worked.

That's a flaming generality. Care to address anything? or would that mean having to justify what you are saying?

MONOBLACK I am a republican, I vote republican and I get a lot of trim in college and some if not most of it is from liberal chicks that just want to get laid. I can throw around some silly pre-concieved notions too, Liberal chicks are whores and will fark anybody that will listen to them for more than 5 minutes

I bet your more like Ann Coulter, who can't find a date because she is an overbearng biatch who knows not only what is good for her but what is good for other people. Somehow, if you weren't hiding behind a computer I don't think you would be so brave, but that's probably why so many republicans can't stand not to be armed. You wouldn't want to have to defend anything inflamatory remarks you've made without backup would you? A liberal chick would see right through you, best to stick to the conservative chicks who are turned on by jesus talk and the promise of wealth.
 
2003-11-27 12:00:43 PM  
BigJake

Xtremehkr, if Kennedy were running for President today I'd vote for him. He was anticommunist, pro-business, and cut taxes. He wasn't a tax-loving liberal pussy like the Nine Dwarves (o.k., eight, Lieberman's not a foreign-policy pussy.) He and other good Democrats like Sam Nunn and Warren Magnuson no longer exist.

Nine Dwarves? Ok you're a Dittohead, enough said. You know nothing about the candidates other than what Rush has told you, so there is no point in trying to discuss that, as you really know nothing about them.

Liberalism/socialism reduces freedom, and as long as that is true, I will never call myself a liberal. A state that mandates how you are to allocate your life's work via exorbitant taxes is not a state that supports a truly free society. No one ever said "Give me Social Security benefits or give me death," it was "Give me LIBERTY or give me death." A state that takes 40+% of your money in taxes (fed, state, local combined) has reached the limit of what can reasonably be referred to as a free society, more and we become servants of the state, if we haven't already. Liberals are the ones who need to cleanse their souls with the light of liberty.


And this proves it. Liberals prefer freedom over security and Conservatives prefer security over freedom. Those are the most basic of facts, unless you are a student of ignorance and facism. You have no argument, only constant attakcs on people who you have shown complete ignorance about. If I wanted to hear this shiat I would listen to Rush myself, but I knew it was weak BS coming from him and you are no Limbaugh. Coming from you it is twice as retarded. So develop an argument or join the other trolls in contributing disingenous half truths, falsities and outdated stereotypes.
 
2003-11-27 12:20:10 PM  
Let's try to focus our collective energy towards making California fall into the ocean....yes?
 
2003-11-27 12:46:28 PM  
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

What, no pic?

Awww, the widdle stupid, whiny-ass pinko commie liberal doesn't like it when someone merely points out the obvious?
 
2003-11-27 06:48:04 PM  
Meanwhile, Republican White Trash only put down the doughnuts, fluff up the big hair and come out of the trailer park to defend killing people in other countries, attend racist bake sales, and protect child molesters.



Why do republicans have such retarded fashion sense? Ugh.
 
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