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2012-10-01 03:55:04 AM
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2012-10-01 03:56:29 AM
The cop should be put death by the state.
 
2012-10-01 04:05:45 AM
So they stopped searching after executing the dog?

I'm guessing the executioner is a fatty, fat, fat.

The cops should hire the guy the were searching for. He is obviously not afraid of a dog. Or is that some sort of requirement? To be afraid of dogs.

/fear
 
2012-10-01 04:12:33 AM
You guys are not giving the police the benefit of the doubt. I honestly feel you're being unfair. There had to have been a situation missing from the article involved with the dogs actions, that warranted that response.

After reading between the lines, it looks like the dog may have stolen the bike. Does anyone know if it was a chocolate lab? That'd make the image even clearer.
 
2012-10-01 04:14:56 AM

StoPPeRmobile: So they stopped searching after executing the dog?

I'm guessing the executioner is a fatty, fat, fat.

The cops should hire the guy the were searching for. He is obviously not afraid of a dog. Or is that some sort of requirement? To be afraid of dogs.

/fear


You don't have to be afraid of them, just enthused with the idea of shooting them.
 
2012-10-01 04:35:35 AM

Kazujin: You guys are not giving the police the benefit of the doubt. I honestly feel you're being unfair. There had to have been a situation missing from the article involved with the dogs actions, that warranted that response.

After reading between the lines, it looks like the dog may have stolen the bike. Does anyone know if it was a chocolate lab? That'd make the image even clearer.


+ 1

i suspected the canine from the start, even without the description
 
2012-10-01 05:08:13 AM
Dezilith:
the_rhino: I'm sure an internal investigation will show that shooting the dog 6 times was necessary.

I'm sure there is some farktard that would happily say 'duuuuh! It was a pit bull!'


I am a big non-fan of pit bulls and think that in general they're too risky a breed to have around... but for god's sake this one was secured in his own yard. I honestly think cops don't bother to try and NOT shoot dogs, simply because they know they'll never, ever face repercussions for it. Just an animal. Property.
 
2012-10-01 05:10:05 AM

davidphogan: Well, they didn't break any laws, so it's time to buy a new dog. Right?


Well...yeah...but...that's only 'cause it's impossible for cops to break laws, because they're cops.

See, I'm not a cop and if I were to shoot and kill a dog I would be prosecuted for, at the very least, cruelty to an animal, and if it were a police dog, I would be prosecuted for murder, because police and their pets occupy a place outside and above our normal legal system. That's just the way it is. Because America is the best country on earth.

U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A!!!!
 
2012-10-01 05:18:06 AM

relaxitsjustme: I give the cops a lot of shait when they screw up but I can't really get on them for this one.

It's unfortunate but I wouldn't want the police to stop searching for a suspect because the guy crossed into private property


You're a slave and you deserve whatever you get.

No one (and I mean NO ONE) can protect your property better than you. In Florida, a dog is considered your property. So, the cops DESTROYED an innocent person's property.

There is no common sense left to be found in our police departments anymore. Why on earth would you welcome these thugs because something was going down?

Someone's bike getting stolen does not rise to the need to shoot someone else's dog.

Disgraceful and don't you dare say it's alright.
 
2012-10-01 05:21:33 AM

phenn: relaxitsjustme: I give the cops a lot of shait when they screw up but I can't really get on them for this one.

It's unfortunate but I wouldn't want the police to stop searching for a suspect because the guy crossed into private property

You're a slave and you deserve whatever you get.

No one (and I mean NO ONE) can protect your property better than you. In Florida, a dog is considered your property. So, the cops DESTROYED an innocent person's property.

There is no common sense left to be found in our police departments anymore. Why on earth would you welcome these thugs because something was going down?

Someone's bike getting stolen does not rise to the need to shoot someone else's dog.

Disgraceful and don't you dare say it's alright.


I bet the dog cost way more than the bike.
 
2012-10-01 05:29:21 AM
The dog was black.
 
2012-10-01 05:34:13 AM

No Such Agency: Dezilith:
the_rhino: I'm sure an internal investigation will show that shooting the dog 6 times was necessary.

I'm sure there is some farktard that would happily say 'duuuuh! It was a pit bull!'

I am a big non-fan of pit bulls and think that in general they're too risky a breed to have around... but for god's sake this one was secured in his own yard. I honestly think cops don't bother to try and NOT shoot dogs, simply because they know they'll never, ever face repercussions for it. Just an animal. Property.


I am a fan of pit bulls myself. I am aware that these dogs are not the same breed as they were fifty years ago. But you caught what made this so upsetting. The dog was contained and doing what he was trained to do, and was killed for it.

Unfortunately, pets ARE property, as much as many people would object to it, by law. And many police jurisdictions, especially if they have dog ordinances, are very well aware of it.

What I don't understand is why a dog trained to protect pack and property would be quiet if someone jumped the fence into his grounds. Sign or no sign, how many people walk past a house and have dogs explode into barking nightmares when you're no where near the fence line?
 
2012-10-01 05:37:52 AM

relaxitsjustme: clyph: I see CruiserTwelve has already chimed in with his daily dose of cop apologetics.

Seriously, dude, is there any threshold of police misconduct that you can't justify? Any abuse of authority that you can't rationalize?

What would you have had the police do in this situation? Not search for the suspect? I don't really see how this is abuse of authority. Cops abuse their powers all the time but this isn't one of those times.


Yes, because the suspect with the bicycle is OBVIOUSLY hiding in the yard with the Very Vicious Pit Bull that needs to be shot on sight. We know this cause the guy punched the other guy in the face to steal the bike, so he was unarmed. Only an UNARMED MAN (or police with guns) can hope to subdue such a vicious beast.
 
2012-10-01 06:02:39 AM

fusillade762: nburghmatt: did a pit bull bite your kid's arm off or something?

No. He's just a really obvious troll. Don't feed it, nothing good will come of it.


THIS. To "troll" I would also add "coont".
 
2012-10-01 06:12:54 AM

The Envoy: fusillade762: nburghmatt: did a pit bull bite your kid's arm off or something?

No. He's just a really obvious troll. Don't feed it, nothing good will come of it.

THIS. To "troll" I would also add "coont".


"Surplus to humanities collective requirements"
 
2012-10-01 06:52:50 AM

Dezilith: No Such Agency: Dezilith:
the_rhino: I'm sure an internal investigation will show that shooting the dog 6 times was necessary.

I'm sure there is some farktard that would happily say 'duuuuh! It was a pit bull!'

I am a big non-fan of pit bulls and think that in general they're too risky a breed to have around... but for god's sake this one was secured in his own yard. I honestly think cops don't bother to try and NOT shoot dogs, simply because they know they'll never, ever face repercussions for it. Just an animal. Property.

I am a fan of pit bulls myself. I am aware that these dogs are not the same breed as they were fifty years ago. But you caught what made this so upsetting. The dog was contained and doing what he was trained to do, and was killed for it.

Unfortunately, pets ARE property, as much as many people would object to it, by law. And many police jurisdictions, especially if they have dog ordinances, are very well aware of it.

What I don't understand is why a dog trained to protect pack and property would be quiet if someone jumped the fence into his grounds. Sign or no sign, how many people walk past a house and have dogs explode into barking nightmares when you're no where near the fence line?


Some dogs aren't barkers. We had a Mastiff that seldom barked, but when you have 140 lbs of drooling muscle suddenly appear it can be frightening.
The police were most likely surprised and shot the dog. Dogs are there to guard the property and deter intruders. That is their job and they take it seriously.
Should they have done that? NO.
 
2012-10-01 06:53:29 AM
When did cops lose the ability to look over a fence? Seriously,
 
2012-10-01 06:53:30 AM

david_gaithersburg: I wish they would do this more often, a community service


With untrained pit bulls (and lets be honest, that's almost all of them) I absolutely agree.

Untrained, they're garbage animals. Maybe 1 in 100 owners get them properly trained, maybe.
 
2012-10-01 07:18:24 AM

AssAsInAssassin: FTA: "They were looking for a man who had punched another guy in the face and stole his bike..."

stolen his bike.

If he had punched a guy and stolen his bike.

/Grammar Nazi will go away now.


Ahem. Robbed. Theft via violence is robbery.

/a Grammar Nazis is always in need of correction.
 
2012-10-01 07:20:43 AM
What I don't understand is why these cops even devoted their time to chasing down (from house to house, no less) some guy who punched another guy and stole his bike. Is it standard operating procedure to devote manhours to chasing down bike thieves in Hollywood, Fla,? How about break-ins, assault, robberies? Do they pursue these crimes with the same zeal and devotion?

You know what? I realized I just answered my own question. Florida.

Never mind.
 
2012-10-01 07:24:03 AM
How about break-ins, assault, bank robberies?

FTFM
 
2012-10-01 07:28:45 AM
Chances are, if there's a vicious dog in the back yard, the perp isn't. But I wouldn't expect that kind of logic to occur to a testosterone/ adrenaline-soaked "professional" LEO with an itchy trigger-finger and bullets (paid for by the taxpayers) to spare.
 
2012-10-01 07:33:49 AM
Sane person: whoa! mean dog! let's back out.

Cop: whoo hoo! I get to kill something!
 
2012-10-01 07:40:16 AM

offmymeds: What I don't understand is why these cops even devoted their time to chasing down (from house to house, no less) some guy who punched another guy and stole his bike. Is it standard operating procedure to devote manhours to chasing down bike thieves in Hollywood, Fla,? How about break-ins, assault, robberies? Do they pursue these crimes with the same zeal and devotion?

You know what? I realized I just answered my own question. Florida.

Never mind.


Duh. Strong-arm robbery isn't a "new" felony either. But don't let that stop you guys from twatty cop bashing....
 
2012-10-01 07:41:50 AM

AbbeySomeone: Dezilith: No Such Agency: Dezilith:
the_rhino: I'm sure an internal investigation will show that shooting the dog 6 times was necessary.

I'm sure there is some farktard that would happily say 'duuuuh! It was a pit bull!'

I am a big non-fan of pit bulls and think that in general they're too risky a breed to have around... but for god's sake this one was secured in his own yard. I honestly think cops don't bother to try and NOT shoot dogs, simply because they know they'll never, ever face repercussions for it. Just an animal. Property.

I am a fan of pit bulls myself. I am aware that these dogs are not the same breed as they were fifty years ago. But you caught what made this so upsetting. The dog was contained and doing what he was trained to do, and was killed for it.

Unfortunately, pets ARE property, as much as many people would object to it, by law. And many police jurisdictions, especially if they have dog ordinances, are very well aware of it.

What I don't understand is why a dog trained to protect pack and property would be quiet if someone jumped the fence into his grounds. Sign or no sign, how many people walk past a house and have dogs explode into barking nightmares when you're no where near the fence line?

Some dogs aren't barkers. We had a Mastiff that seldom barked, but when you have 140 lbs of drooling muscle suddenly appear it can be frightening.
The police were most likely surprised and shot the dog. Dogs are there to guard the property and deter intruders. That is their job and they take it seriously.
Should they have done that? NO.


Off key: Mastiffs are beautiful, if drooly critters!

And I get what you are saying, I just can't wrap my head around 'Jump in yard, surprise dog, put six rounds into him'. Especially with what shotglasss said. You're about to jump in a residents yard. What indeed happened to looking before you leap? Hed still have a full clip and that dog would be having steak tonight.
 
2012-10-01 07:50:49 AM
I find it curious that from the given details the suspect punched someone in the face, yet was being chased as an armed robbery suspect.

I'm sure there was lots of adrenaline flowing; after all, shots were fired. If they had found the suspect first, it might have been him that was shot multiple times. Or perhaps whoever or whatever the cops came upon first.

Also, the article made sure to mention "Pit Bull" three times, but no information regarding the apparent still-at-large suspect roaming the neighborhood at leisure now.  An ARMED suspect. I bet he's the Aquaman of pitbulls and is always armed. Or something.
 
2012-10-01 07:53:11 AM
Ah, strong-arm robbery. Too bad the article writer didn't hyphenate it properly. I first thought it was a certain degree of plain ol armed robbery.
 
2012-10-01 07:56:27 AM

Man On Pink Corner: Meanwhile, if I shoot a police dog, I'm a murderer. Or at least I can count on the police to do everything within their power and then some to charge me with same.


No, you are a cop killer if you shoot a police dog. Instant death penalty.
 
2012-10-01 07:58:37 AM

Kazujin: You guys are not giving the police the benefit of the doubt. I honestly feel you're being unfair. There had to have been a situation missing from the article involved with the dogs actions, that warranted that response.

After reading between the lines, it looks like the dog may have stolen the bike. Does anyone know if it was a chocolate lab? That'd make the image even clearer.


Don't know if this had a racial slant or a "labs steel everything that isn't pinned down" slant.

Ether way it was funny

As the owner of two labs. There were times I wished someone would kill them.
 
2012-10-01 08:04:33 AM

OregonVet: offmymeds: What I don't understand is why these cops even devoted their time to chasing down (from house to house, no less) some guy who punched another guy and stole his bike. Is it standard operating procedure to devote manhours to chasing down bike thieves in Hollywood, Fla,? How about break-ins, assault, robberies? Do they pursue these crimes with the same zeal and devotion?

You know what? I realized I just answered my own question. Florida.

Never mind.

Duh. Strong-arm robbery isn't a "new" felony either. But don't let that stop you guys from twatty cop bashing....


I see that my statement hasn't stopped you from being an azzole.
 
2012-10-01 08:14:32 AM

fusillade762: strong armed robbery

Wat?


Robbery with threat or physical taking and no weapon brandished.
 
2012-10-01 08:34:41 AM

Worldwalker: Every time I read about something like this, the police officers claim that they were "afraid." Perhaps that is our problem. We need to hire some less timid cops.


THIS and more of this
 
2012-10-01 08:35:26 AM
How about pick a cop at random and shoot the cop? Farking trash with badges.
 
2012-10-01 08:37:05 AM

OregonVet: Duh. Strong-arm robbery isn't a "new" felony either


I did not realize they had this much straw in Oregon. Are you from Bend ?

// Assuming your use of "Vet" has fark all to do with animal care, defence, or freedom
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-10-01 08:40:22 AM
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
"That's some fine police work there Lou"
 
2012-10-01 08:48:30 AM
I'd just like to point out that I don't buy the "had to do it!" line from cops anymore. Maybe you did, maybe you didn't, but after so many stories all over the place of cops kicking in doors and shooting dogs and people over inconsequential shiat, because of a bogus informant "tip" or because they go the wrong house I've learned to assume that cops who shoot the wrong thing are lying sacks of crap who just don't want to lose their job after they did something stupid and uncalled for.

So... yea, fark you, Sargeant.
 
2012-10-01 08:54:42 AM

bookelly: All trolls should be put down, they are not domesticated people.


www.nps.gov

What a domesticated person might look like.
 
2012-10-01 08:58:26 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: I've learned to assume that cops who shoot the wrong thing are lying sacks of crap who just don't want to lose their job after they did something stupid and uncalled for.


Not all of them are.
The ones who defend and deny are though (as you quite rightly pointed out rather eloquently)
Some will sacrifice their career to do the right thing, they just have a tendency to live in other nations.

// Rules do not apply for the US, your "mile" age may vary.
/ Will never step on US soil again.
// Any lawyers wanna give me some help relinquishing my daughters US citizenship ? She was born in California, raised in Oregon and British Columbia (with smatterings of Ociania and China), almost 5 years old, citizen of three nations, all of them are members of the "five eyes".
 
2012-10-01 09:09:32 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: I'd just like to point out that I don't buy the "had to do it!" line from cops anymore. Maybe you did, maybe you didn't, but after so many stories all over the place of cops kicking in doors and shooting dogs and people over inconsequential shiat, because of a bogus informant "tip" or because they go the wrong house I've learned to assume that cops who shoot the wrong thing are lying sacks of crap who just don't want to lose their job after they did something stupid and uncalled for.

So... yea, fark you, Sargeant.


Look at it from the other hand, you're punishing normally good cops who got put in a situation where they were being attacked by a vicious dog and used their weapon/force properly. Using your assumptions, any action the police take is almost always negative, portraying them as vicious fascists protected by a blue wall of silence.

Not defending the police, just playing devil's advocate. I'm aware of the many shiattay things the police do and get away with and the general anti-police sentiment on fark 

/Not a "trust the police" kind of guy
//Have police friends
 
2012-10-01 09:14:59 AM

Anenu: Under the law, police are allowed to enter private property if they are pursuing or searching for a felony suspect.

So this means that if someone is suspected of a felony even if cops can't get enough evidence for a judge to grant a warrant they can still bust down the door and take the person, or am I misunderstanding what that implies?


No, what it means is that if they are in the pursuit of a suspect who has committed a crime and is on the run the cops don't have to stop their search if the guy jumps through a private property and wait for a warrant to continue pursuing him.

And BTW, in as much problems as I have with the cops, this article isn't one of them. The cops were looking for a thief who they thought went into a property, went in, came across a hostile dog and had to shoot. Nothing on the dog, but nothing on the cops either. Are they supposed to let him bite them. Cops aren't exactly animal control experts.

Of course, I'd have much the same reaction if a K9 got shot and killed pursuing a felon.
 
2012-10-01 09:20:24 AM

dittybopper: bookelly: All trolls should be put down, they are not domesticated people.

[www.nps.gov image 295x340]

What a domesticated person might look like.


Poisoning the well...another winner!
 
2012-10-01 09:24:15 AM
Learned that week two of the police academy. When in doubt, find a dog and shoot it.
./no we didn't.
//you see a dog, look at its tail. Wagging, probably ok. Not wagging, probably not.
///they actually taught us that. Back in 1977.
 
2012-10-01 09:25:12 AM

pueblonative: Anenu: Under the law, police are allowed to enter private property if they are pursuing or searching for a felony suspect.

So this means that if someone is suspected of a felony even if cops can't get enough evidence for a judge to grant a warrant they can still bust down the door and take the person, or am I misunderstanding what that implies?

No, what it means is that if they are in the pursuit of a suspect who has committed a crime and is on the run the cops don't have to stop their search if the guy jumps through a private property and wait for a warrant to continue pursuing him.

And BTW, in as much problems as I have with the cops, this article isn't one of them. The cops were looking for a thief who they thought went into a property, went in, came across a hostile dog and had to shoot. Nothing on the dog, but nothing on the cops either. Are they supposed to let him bite them. Cops aren't exactly animal control experts.

Of course, I'd have much the same reaction if a K9 got shot and killed pursuing a felon.


The cop should of backed off when he encountered the dog in the first place. Maybe retrieved the owner and had the owner take the dog away to allow a safe search of the yard. Not up and shoot a dog that is doing what its instincts tell it and protect its home from what he sees as intruders.

The cop was clearly in the wrong for not thinking straight and using simple logic. It seems like he just wanted to shoot it.
 
2012-10-01 09:25:56 AM

david_gaithersburg: I wish they would do this more often, a community service


I at least wish they would get my next door neighbor's dog.

You know, not all dogs are nice and re-educable. Many are neglected and confined, and become mean, scary, and dangerous. It might not be the dog's fault, but that doesn't make a dog less dangerous.
 
2012-10-01 09:25:58 AM

pueblonative: The cops were looking for a thief who they thought went into a property, went in, came across a hostile dog and had to shoot. Nothing on the dog, but nothing on the cops either.


As long as the owner gets compensated for his loss of property (the dog) it's OK. If this is a case of 'we're sorry we shot and killed your pet' then it's not OK.
 
2012-10-01 09:35:47 AM
Dear Pigs, 

If you are searching for a perp in a yard with a pitbull, the absence of the sound of a guy being mauled means the yard is clear, move on.
 
2012-10-01 09:39:29 AM

The Southern Logic Company: who got put in a situation


Actively going on to somebody else's property isn't exactly "getting put in a situation".

The Southern Logic Company: Using your assumptions, any action the police take is almost always negative, portraying them as vicious fascists protected by a blue wall of silence.


Pretty much. Mostly as a result of the "drug war" and the completely unreasonable ways in which police and S.W.A.T. behave to bring down non-violent offenders in the name of getting headlines for some asshole in the prosecutor's office who wants to run for governor next year.

Look, the fact is that the police should meet a very high standard of behavior. It shouldn't take much to kick them out of the force because they're given significant powers that can be easily misused through corruption or incompetence. Not having a very high standard is dangerous for the public AND it's dangerous for the other members of the force. Would YOU want to be partnered up with some idiot who thinks he's Rambo and just goes kicking down doors and shooting at people at the slightest provocation?

This should be investigated and if they determine he didn't have a very good reason to be there or that he could have backed out without incident, he should be terminated immediately. Even for the "it's just a dog" idiots, there's still the serious issue of somebody discharging a firearm in someone's backyard in a residential area without warning.

If he really had a good reason to think the perp was there and if he really had no option but to shoot the dog or get attacked... shiat happens. But anything less? Immediate termination.
 
2012-10-01 09:47:16 AM

Free Radical: pueblonative: The cops were looking for a thief who they thought went into a property, went in, came across a hostile dog and had to shoot. Nothing on the dog, but nothing on the cops either.

As long as the owner gets compensated for his loss of property (the dog) it's OK. If this is a case of 'we're sorry we shot and killed your pet' then it's not OK.


Fair enough, though I could also see the amount being attached to the bicycle thief in the form of restitution.
 
2012-10-01 09:52:20 AM
Just out of curiosity. I wonder if the Stand Your Ground rule can apply to cops forcing their way onto private property with their guns drawn and about to or have shot your dog.
 
2012-10-01 09:58:58 AM

yves0010: Just out of curiosity. I wonder if the Stand Your Ground rule can apply to cops forcing their way onto private property with their guns drawn and about to or have shot your dog.


Perhaps, if...

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