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(Gizmodo)   If you were to heat the head of a pin to the temperature of the center of the sun it would KILL anyone within 1,000 MILES of it. Still colder than the center of a microwave burrito   (gizmodo.com) divider line 58
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2012-09-30 11:49:45 PM
but how does it compare to a hooooooot pocket?
 
2012-10-01 12:28:52 AM

SilentStrider: but how does it compare to a hooooooot pocket?


Nothing compares to hot pockets. We could have break even fusion in a month if we replaced all those magnetic constrictors and 2.1 jiggawatt lasers with micronuked hot pockets.
 
2012-10-01 12:54:29 AM
i575.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-01 01:25:10 AM
If you were to heat the head of a pin to the temperature of the center of the sun it would KILL anyone within 1,000 MILES of it. Still colder than the center of a microwave burrito

Wouldn't the head of a pin boil away before it ever reached that temperature?
 
2012-10-01 01:38:46 AM

Fark Me To Tears: Wouldn't the head of a pin boil away before it ever reached that temperature?


This.

But try not to apply reason to a Gizmodo article.
 
2012-10-01 01:41:24 AM
i49.tinypic.com


That's hot.
 
2012-10-01 02:19:06 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Fark Me To Tears: Wouldn't the head of a pin boil away before it ever reached that temperature?

This.

But try not to apply reason to a Gizmodo article.


It was just a video Gizmodo linked to. Well presented if nothing else.
 
2012-10-01 03:29:51 AM
Yes, but how many angels can withstand the heat in order to dance on the head of that pin?
 
2012-10-01 03:32:30 AM
Subby: Still colder than the center of a microwave burrito

Try using a lower power setting. Microwaves aren't that confusing.
 
2012-10-01 03:43:54 AM
If you took all the blood vessels from your body, and laid them end-to-end, you'd die.
 
2012-10-01 03:54:39 AM
Oh for fuc-.......FINE I'LL SAY IT!

End of video, girl in glasses on the far left.
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I would plow her.
 
2012-10-01 04:08:39 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Fark Me To Tears: Wouldn't the head of a pin boil away before it ever reached that temperature?

This.

But try not to apply reason to a Gizmodo article.


Also, try not to apply reason to a farking theoretical construct. On account of it being a tool to explain things to the general public. Apparently, much to that public's disdain.


You know there was no cat in the box, right? Christ.
 
2012-10-01 04:37:03 AM

noazark: If you took all the blood vessels from your body, and laid them end-to-end, you'd die.


Not if you put it all back together when you were done playing with it. That's why your parents tell you to clean up after yourself when you are done messing around.

Clean your room.
 
2012-10-01 05:01:28 AM

Fark Me To Tears: If you were to heat the head of a pin to the temperature of the center of the sun it would KILL anyone within 1,000 MILES of it. Still colder than the center of a microwave burrito

Wouldn't the head of a pin boil away before it ever reached that temperature?


For the purposes of your experiment, you would keep it under pressure so it wouldn't boil away. This is why food cooks faster in a pressure cooker; at 7-15 psi it can achieve temperatures that are impossible under sea level pressure before the water steams away. Incidentally, this is also why the center of the sun is as hot as it is. It's under millions of psi so it can't "steam away". 

They didn't really make it clear why an ultra-hot pin is so lethal. Would it be a kinetic explosion that would annihilate a thousand mile area? Would instant release of it's stored thermal energy cook everyone? Would it emit a gamma burst?
 
2012-10-01 05:01:35 AM

Fark Me To Tears: If you were to heat the head of a pin to the temperature of the center of the sun it would KILL anyone within 1,000 MILES of it. Still colder than the center of a microwave burrito

Wouldn't the head of a pin boil away before it ever reached that temperature?


Yeah, but I think we're being hypothetical enough to assume instantaneous heating.
 
2012-10-01 05:09:22 AM
i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-01 05:09:26 AM
"Kugelblitz."
 
2012-10-01 05:10:24 AM

Austinoftx: They didn't really make it clear why an ultra-hot pin is so lethal. Would it be a kinetic explosion that would annihilate a thousand mile area? Would instant release of it's stored thermal energy cook everyone? Would it emit a gamma burst?


Does it matter? If you're close enough to know, you're too dead to care.
 
2012-10-01 05:21:25 AM
It's hard to tell what he's talking about with that pin example; it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Neither converting the entire rest mass of the pin-head into energy, nor trying to estimate the internal energy from the heat capacity of steel, are going to get you energy over a megaton.

The only thing I can guess is that he's just throwing conservation of energy out the window and imagining a black-body surface the size of a pin-head that constantly radiates as it maintains its temperature of 15 Million K. That would blow out energy on the order of [back of the envelope calculation here] 1 Megaton per second, largely as x-rays.
 
2012-10-01 05:45:14 AM
Some brainy type worked the numbers on a Lightsaber and figured that based on it's ability to melt through metals in a hurry they would make better bombs than swords.

I'd be more detailed but I'm on a tablet.
 
2012-10-01 05:54:49 AM

wildcardjack: Some brainy type worked the numbers on a Lightsaber and figured that based on it's ability to melt through metals in a hurry they would make better bombs than swords.

I'd be more detailed but I'm on a tablet.


So he went from swords into bombs instead of plowshares? My kinda guy.

\kill 'em all and let god sort 'em, out
 
2012-10-01 06:29:19 AM
i.imgur.com 

/This whole rambling paragraph makes me smile.
 
2012-10-01 06:42:36 AM

Skyrmion: It's hard to tell what he's talking about with that pin example; it doesn't make a lot of sense.


This. Temperature depends on a number of conditions this idiot is taking for granted (in astronomy it can get pretty bizarre, like hypothetically freezing to death in a gas cloud that's "one million degrees"), and he doesn't specify the assumptions he's making.
 
2012-10-01 06:59:43 AM
So I take it the author has absolutely no understanding that the energy difference varies non-linearly with temperature difference. That's journalism for you. The difference in energy between the coldest thing we've ever seen and absolute zero is still infinite. That's logarithms for you.
 
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2012-10-01 07:00:52 AM
15 million degrees times 1 milligram would kill small rodents in the same rectum. People 1,000 miles away would have to read about it on Fark.
 
2012-10-01 07:01:52 AM
Sounds like the temperature problem ends on the same note as the speed problem.
There should be nothing wrong with adding a bit more energy, but the theory can't explain what might happen if you did.
 
2012-10-01 07:06:07 AM

fusillade762: [i49.tinypic.com image 649x541]


That's hot.


The comments... Ugh. This is what happens when you fail at teaching science to people.

/someone doesn't know what absolute zero means

/can you go slower than completely stopped?
 
2012-10-01 07:14:46 AM

JesterJoker55: Oh for fuc-.......FINE I'LL SAY IT!

End of video, girl in glasses on the far left.
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I would plow her.


I'd say all those young ladies look plowable.

/maybe one or two face-down, though.
 
2012-10-01 07:25:46 AM

Mister Peejay: fusillade762: [i49.tinypic.com image 649x541]

That's hot.

The comments... Ugh. This is what happens when you fail at teaching science to people.

/someone doesn't know what absolute zero means

/can you go slower than completely stopped?


How far can myself decrease?

/obscure?
 
2012-10-01 07:37:24 AM
OK I saw the "head of a pin killing everyone within 1000 miles...." but why? 15M Kevlin is hot - I assumed some sort of x-ray/gamma ray burst - but if the instantaneous temperature of a thermonuclear bomb reaches 350M K (and we know it makes gamma rays) why doesnt any nuclear explosion kill everyone within 1000 miles?
 
2012-10-01 07:50:39 AM

Fizpez: OK I saw the "head of a pin killing everyone within 1000 miles...." but why? 15M Kevlin is hot - I assumed some sort of x-ray/gamma ray burst - but if the instantaneous temperature of a thermonuclear bomb reaches 350M K (and we know it makes gamma rays) why doesnt any nuclear explosion kill everyone within 1000 miles?


Because a nuclear explosion is very short lived.
What we see as the boom and shockwave is mostly the aftermath of an event that ended within fractions of a second.

If you had a pin head sized piece of the sun sitting there and irradiating, it could torch a very large area.
 
2012-10-01 08:26:13 AM
www.blackbluedog.com
What a heated pinhead may look like.

/Sorry, I couldn't stop myself.
//So very ashamed now.
 
2012-10-01 08:27:09 AM

vossiewulf:
Nothing compares to hot pockets. We could have break even fusion in a month if we replaced all those magnetic constrictors and 2.1 jiggawatt lasers with micronuked hot pockets.


What the hell is a jiggawatt?
 
2012-10-01 08:39:47 AM

way south: Fizpez: OK I saw the "head of a pin killing everyone within 1000 miles...." but why? 15M Kevlin is hot - I assumed some sort of x-ray/gamma ray burst - but if the instantaneous temperature of a thermonuclear bomb reaches 350M K (and we know it makes gamma rays) why doesnt any nuclear explosion kill everyone within 1000 miles?

Because a nuclear explosion is very short lived.
What we see as the boom and shockwave is mostly the aftermath of an event that ended within fractions of a second.

If you had a pin head sized piece of the sun sitting there and irradiating, it could torch a very large area.


I made the (correct) assumption that the pin would immediately vaporize - I guess if it magically stayed there radiating then the mass destruction and death following would be correct.
 
2012-10-01 08:48:50 AM

way south: Sounds like the temperature problem ends on the same note as the speed problem.
There should be nothing wrong with adding a bit more energy, but the theory can't explain what might happen if you did.


If you mean about going past the speed of light, the issue is that it would take an infinite amount of energy to get an item of mass up to the speed of light, if I understand correctly.
 
2012-10-01 09:02:44 AM
I was able to watch that mincing dandy's facial contortions and unnecessary emphases for about 45 seconds before vomiting on the keyboard with potent indifference. Fortunately two particularly dense globules of partially digested white rhinoceros flesh landed on the alt and F4 keys respectively, promptly resolving the issue.
 
2012-10-01 09:02:58 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

/Flakpanzer IV Kugelblitz 
/I know the Nazi tanks were hot, but...
 
2012-10-01 09:07:29 AM
It's not the heat. It's the humidity.
 
2012-10-01 09:14:01 AM
www.operatorchan.org
 
2012-10-01 09:20:23 AM
i86.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-01 09:48:35 AM

Sgeo: way south: Sounds like the temperature problem ends on the same note as the speed problem.
There should be nothing wrong with adding a bit more energy, but the theory can't explain what might happen if you did.

If you mean about going past the speed of light, the issue is that it would take an infinite amount of energy to get an item of mass up to the speed of light, if I understand correctly.


I'm looking at it more philosophically, since math was never my strong suit.
If something gets too big, if something moves too fast, or if something gets too hot, the result always seems impossible for our math to properly describe.

It doesn't take an Einstein to see that humans are really bad at pondering the extremes.
 
2012-10-01 10:06:16 AM
You guys are taking this way to serious. It's probably between 986 and 1017 miles. Not exactly 1000 miles.
 
2012-10-01 10:26:35 AM
A Kate Beckensale is the hottest thing anything can be.
 
2012-10-01 11:06:38 AM

noazark: If you took all the blood vessels from your body, and laid them end-to-end, you'd die.


jpegy.com 

/hot
 
2012-10-01 11:27:23 AM

way south: Fizpez: OK I saw the "head of a pin killing everyone within 1000 miles...." but why? 15M Kevlin is hot - I assumed some sort of x-ray/gamma ray burst - but if the instantaneous temperature of a thermonuclear bomb reaches 350M K (and we know it makes gamma rays) why doesnt any nuclear explosion kill everyone within 1000 miles?

Because a nuclear explosion is very short lived.
What we see as the boom and shockwave is mostly the aftermath of an event that ended within fractions of a second.

If you had a pin head sized piece of the sun sitting there and irradiating, it could torch a very large area.


Thanks, I was confused by that part of the video.
 
2012-10-01 12:07:23 PM

Fizpez: way south: Fizpez: OK I saw the "head of a pin killing everyone within 1000 miles...." but why? 15M Kevlin is hot - I assumed some sort of x-ray/gamma ray burst - but if the instantaneous temperature of a thermonuclear bomb reaches 350M K (and we know it makes gamma rays) why doesnt any nuclear explosion kill everyone within 1000 miles?

Because a nuclear explosion is very short lived.
What we see as the boom and shockwave is mostly the aftermath of an event that ended within fractions of a second.

If you had a pin head sized piece of the sun sitting there and irradiating, it could torch a very large area.

I made the (correct) assumption that the pin would immediately vaporize - I guess if it magically stayed there radiating then the mass destruction and death following would be correct.


Yeah, I think that's the idea.
 
2012-10-01 12:13:58 PM

sidcart42: You know there was no cat in the box, right? Christ.


The cat was in the hat. Jack's in the box.
 
2012-10-01 01:37:35 PM

wippit: vossiewulf:
Nothing compares to hot pockets. We could have break even fusion in a month if we replaced all those magnetic constrictors and 2.1 jiggawatt lasers with micronuked hot pockets.

What the hell is a jiggawatt?


static.gigwise.com
 
2012-10-01 03:19:04 PM

noazark: If you took all the blood vessels from your body, and laid them end-to-end, you'd die.


Are you reincarnated Mitch Hedburg or did you steal that from somewhere that I am not familiar with?
 
2012-10-01 03:48:09 PM

wippit: What the hell is a jiggawatt?


carblog.ge
 
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