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(New York Daily News)   Paul Ryan can't explain his tax plan to you because the math is too complicated and there's not enough time to go through it all   (nydailynews.com) divider line 166
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2012-09-30 12:15:33 PM  
Try me.
 
2012-09-30 12:25:17 PM  
Well, Mr. Ryan, I can shoot lasers out of my fingertips, but you're nowhere near cool enough for me to show you.

Also, my neighbor built a time machine in his basement.
 
2012-09-30 12:27:10 PM  
The math is too complicated? So basically Ryan just called the American people stupid (in a subtle way). Those of us who aren't stupid see right through your not so cunning little plan.
 
2012-09-30 12:28:42 PM  
Romney/Ryan: Vote for us, our shiat's too complicated to ever explain to you.
 
2012-09-30 12:36:05 PM  
How is this any different than Pelosi's declaration that they have to pass Obamacare to find out what's in it?
 
2012-09-30 12:38:49 PM  
But just look at him! He looks so earnest. A face like that you just have to trust, right?
 
2012-09-30 12:41:05 PM  

dj_bigbird: How is this any different than Pelosi's declaration that they have to pass Obamacare to find out what's in it?


They're asking the country to vote for them, while Pelosi only gets voted on by her district, and both Romney and Ryan have bashed her with that talking point. Now they're using it themselves.

But both sides are bad. I know you're too retarded to say anything else.
 
2012-09-30 12:47:59 PM  
And it's from Canada.
 
2012-09-30 01:01:15 PM  
It's obvious that Ryan is far too intelligent, and his economic plan is far too complicated for us peons. The only ones that would understand it are the job creators, and they don't need to know the details because they just know it will work.
 
2012-09-30 01:01:30 PM  

dj_bigbird: How is this any different than Pelosi's declaration that they have to pass Obamacare to find out what's in it?


Nancy Pelosi said that we had to pass ObamaCares to get away from the controversy of garbage talking points like there are death panels in the law or the federal government is completely taking over health care. That way, we could focus on what the bill actually said and what it would do.

In contrast, Paul Ryan said that he won't explain how his tax plan works because we're idiots and don't deserve the details that have never been revealed.

There, that's how they're different.
 
2012-09-30 01:04:34 PM  

dj_bigbird: How is this any different than Pelosi's declaration that they have to pass Obamacare to find out what's in it?


The difference is ibmn the intention of the comment. Pelosi only meant that there was so much deep coming from the GOP that the truth about the ACA was being distorted. The Democrats were happy to discuss what was in the bill. Ryan, on the other hand won't tell you about the tax plan because he thinks we're too slow to understand. The difference is easy to see if you read the statements in context.
 
2012-09-30 01:06:25 PM  
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-30 01:07:57 PM  
Paul Ryan? More like... Paul LYIN'.
 
2012-09-30 01:08:03 PM  

verbal_jizm: dj_bigbird: How is this any different than Pelosi's declaration that they have to pass Obamacare to find out what's in it?

The difference is ibmn in the intention of the comment. Pelosi only meant that there was so much deep derp coming from the GOP that the truth about the ACA was being distorted. The Democrats were happy to discuss what was in the bill. Ryan, on the other hand won't tell you about the tax plan because he thinks we're too slow to understand. The difference is easy to see if you read the statements in context.


Farking phone
 
2012-09-30 01:16:09 PM  
I think we can safely assume that his plan hoses down the middle class.
 
2012-09-30 01:17:05 PM  

dj_bigbird: How is this any different than Pelosi's declaration that they have to pass Obamacare to find out what's in it?


When Pelosi said that, the bill was in the Senate and Harry Reid was trying to find a way to get one Republican to vote in favor of it. The Senate bill could have looked very different from the House version. And that House version was being attacked for its non-existent taxpayer-funded access to abortion and 'death panels'.

Pelosi was commenting on the difficulty of defending a bill that might have changed significantly. As it turns out, the ACA was passed using Reconciliation...without death panels or federally-funded abortions, oddly enough.

Ryan, on the other hand, implies that the plan (not a law, just a plan, the Romney/Ryan plan, written by their team and fully within their control) is done but cannot be explained because explaining the math would take too long.

Fair enough, but why don't they POST THE farkING MATH ON THEIR WEBSITE? Then, Ryan can just say, "Hey, here's the math. Let me talk about some key points..."
 
2012-09-30 01:17:45 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I think we can safely assume that his plan hoses down the middle class.


Eliminating the mortgage interest deduction could pay for an awful lot of awesome tax cuts!
 
2012-09-30 01:19:38 PM  
Not that this is Fark and we would never distort anything or take information out of context to show just how retarded a candidate is but Paul Ryan said that the Romney/Ryan tax plan (Or lack there of...) is too time consuming to explain. So either he doesn't have enough time talking about how he ran a marathon in 3 hours instead of 4, or he just doesn't understand how to put out a press release of the plan itself.
 
2012-09-30 01:35:32 PM  
Complicating the most complicated system of laws in our country is something that should be avoided. Simplifying, however, would be a welcome change.
 
2012-09-30 01:39:44 PM  

cman: Complicating the most complicated system of laws in our country is something that should be avoided. Simplifying, however, would be a welcome change.


Where were these people when Obama wanted to do this back in February 2012: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/22/business/economy/obama-offers-to-cut -corporate-tax-rate-to-28.html?pagewanted=all

Obama and Romney preach the same thing and yet no one can seem to do anything about this mess.
 
2012-09-30 01:42:05 PM  
 
2012-09-30 01:44:00 PM  
You pleebs can't possibly fathom how Ryan's awesome tax plan would work with your feeble minds. If he even tried to explain it to you, your head would explode into 100 sparkling bald eagles that would fly off into the sunset and Fartbongocare wouldn't cover the damage. The question you should be asking is why doesn't the Communegro want to fix your eaglesploded heads. The answer to that is socialism. Lots of it. Vote Romney/Ryan!

/makes about as much sense as whatever Ryan will come up with
 
2012-09-30 01:45:16 PM  
I can understand how it might be too long and complicated to explain in a short little interview with Chris Wallace or whatever. But you could, you know, write it down or something.
 
2012-09-30 01:51:32 PM  
What a couple of cocks. I hope they lose in a landslide, just because they are such cocks.

/cocks
 
2012-09-30 01:51:57 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Well, Mr. Ryan, I can shoot lasers out of my fingertips, but you're nowhere near cool enough for me to show you.

Also, my neighbor built a time machine in his basement.


That reminds me of the time Michael Jackdson stopped at my house because he had to use the bathroom.
 
2012-09-30 01:53:16 PM  

cman: Complicating the most complicated system of laws in our country is something that should be avoided. Simplifying, however, would be a welcome change.


That is not what Congress is about, not for the last 40 years. Our legal code is becoming MORE complex, with far more provisos and conditions because when you minutely define issues, then you have a reason to work around things. That's sort of the point of exploding regulatory issues: minute definition is there by design. It is there to give folks a reason to flout the intent of said laws, by claiming that they're just taking advantage of the code as written. X amount of chemical additives, Y deductions possible, Z number of waivers filed. Simplification is NOT what folks who put up cash for campaigns want. They want MORE code, they want MORE complexity, because it gives lawyers jobs, and it keeps courts tied up parsing those minute definitions.

Simplification is not going to be possible until we can get campaign finance reformed. Plain and simple. It won't happen, because Congress is in the job of managing problems, not solving them. And they won't be, until we can take the profit from the process...
 
2012-09-30 02:00:30 PM  

dj_bigbird: How is this any different than Pelosi's declaration that they have to pass Obamacare to find out what's in it?


Ah. Allergic to facts or just willful ignorance?
 
2012-09-30 02:08:37 PM  
Wallace: "Mr. Ryan, perhaps you could explain some of the specifics of your tax plan?"
Ryan: "I was told there would be no math!"
 
2012-09-30 02:11:09 PM  
There are these things called "websites", where stuff like "information" and "data" and "math" can be made available to anyone with a "computer". That way, people who are experts in "economics" can actually take the time to evaluate whether the budget plan will do what Ryan claims, or whether, as is likely the case, it's a complete load of crap designed to soak the poor and the middle class so that the rich can seriously cash in.

Who the hell thinks that "aww, the math is too hard for me to explain to you" is a good campaign talking point?
 
2012-09-30 02:16:09 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Who the hell thinks that "aww, the math is too hard for me to explain to you" is a good campaign talking point?


i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-30 02:22:24 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Who the hell thinks that "aww, the math is too hard for me to explain to you" is a good campaign talking point?


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2012-09-30 02:27:26 PM  
It takes that long to say "Much like me, it's completely full of shiat and based on a collective fantasy?"
 
2012-09-30 02:53:00 PM  
He's given all you people need to know.
 
2012-09-30 02:55:41 PM  
At least he understands his base.
 
2012-09-30 03:09:02 PM  
That's what Bernie Madoff told me. Just trust him. He wouldn't steer you wrong
 
2012-09-30 03:10:47 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I think we can safely assume that his plan hoses down the middle class.


Politicians lie.

Ryan says his plan is too complicated to go through the details.

thus we can conclude Ryan's plan is very simple.

/if you make under $5,000,000 you are hosed.
 
2012-09-30 03:12:00 PM  
That pic deserves some kind of caption.

I'mma go with...

"Hey girl, don't you worry your pretty little head about the math in my Budget, I'd explain it but I have to be at the gym in 26 minutes".

/Is it just me or has Ryan aged quite a bit in a few scant days since his selection?
//Guy's got more furrows in his forehead than a Iowa corn field.
 
2012-09-30 03:12:18 PM  
Paul Ryan reminds me more and more of John Fitzgerald Page.
 
2012-09-30 03:12:49 PM  
Wow, did ya see that Green Bay game? Talk about a tough loss....and you know what else is tough? Math!
 
2012-09-30 03:13:30 PM  
Short answer. We don't know what we're doing but trust us anyway.
 
2012-09-30 03:15:01 PM  

Relatively Obscure: I can understand how it might be too long and complicated to explain in a short little interview with Chris Wallace or whatever. But you could, you know, write it down or something.


Yeah, there's this thing called the Internet, I hear. It lets people place all kinds of complex information in a readily accessible format so others can review it at their leisure.

Maybe Ryan needs to try that.
 
2012-09-30 03:16:31 PM  

Solchie: The math is too complicated? So basically Ryan just called the American people stupid (in a subtle way). Those of us who aren't stupid see right through your not so cunning little plan.


No no no, they're not too stupid for it. The plan is just...so amazing that a single utterance to an unprepared populous would cause people's heads to explode and women's panties to fall off almost instantaneously.
 
2012-09-30 03:16:46 PM  
When I first started teaching a student asked me a question that I didn't know the answer to. I responded in similar fashion saying I COULD answer that question, but it will take us into an area that is really complicated and beyond the scope of this class and the class's ability to comprehend the concept.

I, of course, was blowing smoke up their asses and Ryan is doing that to the American public right now.
 
2012-09-30 03:16:58 PM  
How about instead of making an overly complicated tax plan that you need a college degree to understand (I have no idea if this applies to Ryan's plan or not) we simply have a tax rate that rises predicable the more money you make along with simple and understandable deductions such as children, expenses over the tax year (you are supporting the economy so you can pay less taxes) charitable donations (meaning donating your money to actual charity organization that spend at least 80% of the money to help those they claim to help not just churches) and other reasonable and understandable things?
 
2012-09-30 03:18:41 PM  

Solchie: The math is too complicated? So basically Ryan just called the American people stupid (in a subtle way). Those of us who aren't stupid see right through your not so cunning little plan.


Which is why they will never have the elite, smart people on their side.
 
2012-09-30 03:20:08 PM  
I certainly hope the Republicans aren't complaining about 'transparency 'of the Obama administration when Romney won't share his tax returns and Ryan won't tell us what his tax plan is.
 
2012-09-30 03:22:37 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Marcus Aurelius: I think we can safely assume that his plan hoses down the middle class.

Eliminating the mortgage interest deduction could pay for an awful lot of awesome tax cuts!


And think of all the airplane fuel and munitions we could buy and drop on those pesky brown people.
 
2012-09-30 03:22:48 PM  

Muta: I certainly hope the Republicans aren't complaining about 'transparency 'of the Obama administration when Romney won't share his tax returns and Ryan won't tell us what his tax plan is.


Oh, no no...that is NOTHING like those evil state departments refusing to share their travel expenses. This is DIFFERENT.
 
2012-09-30 03:24:33 PM  
I think what Paul means is that the math is too complicated for anyone who would conceivably vote Republican this year.
 
2012-09-30 03:27:47 PM  

LectertheChef: Paul Ryan reminds me more and more of John Fitzgerald Page.


Paul Ryan reminds me more and more of Jay Gatsby.
 
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