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2012-09-30 12:06:06 PM
5 votes:
Hey liarmitter, the $18,000 isn't for one year, it's the savings a women could get for birth control for her lifetime. But you already knew that, didn't you, you dishonest sack of shiat.
2012-09-30 03:05:18 PM
4 votes:
If birth control pills are medicine, then why shouldn't they be covered by health insurance the same way that insulin, antibiotics and viagra are?
And if they aren't medicine, they why do you have to have a prescription to get them?
2012-09-30 02:36:12 PM
3 votes:

Ontos: Just because people don't want to pay for your birth control doesn't mean that they hate women,


Once you give your money to another party for the services they render, it's not your money anymore, and you aren't paying for jack shiat of what they spend their money on. You're not paying for some random woman's birth control any more than you're paying for the restaurant valet's weed, or your lawyer's BDSM session with Mistress Lily, or the grocery store cashier's 12-pack of Bud Light. Of course, if you want to live in the kind of world where everyone gets to maintain some chain of ownership of "their" money, remember that it would go both ways. Your employer would get to dictate what you spend your money on. After all, why should they have to pay for your shiat that they don't like?
2012-09-30 08:27:20 PM
2 votes:

HempHead: There are other cheaper forms of birth control people, take IUDs for example, they are good for 10 years.


My IUD is only good for 5 years and cost $700 with insurance. It's only slightly less expensive than 5 years of co-pays for the pill.

But not every woman can use an IUD. It's the same way not every woman can take the $9 per month pill.

Anyone who doesn't understand the basics of birth control and it's cost needs to stop expressing an opinion on this topic.

I'm so sick of hearing about this $9 per month pill. Do these idiots really think women are paying $35-$100 a month for something they could get for $9 per month. Do they think the doctor writes a prescription that says "the pill" and then we go to the drug store and pick one? And what, pick the one that costs $50 per month because it has the prettiest case?

Ladies, in case you're wondering, I LOVE my IUD. Highly recommend it.
2012-09-30 07:52:54 PM
2 votes:

Ontos: Since when did "access to" become the equivalent of "access to free" whatever it is?

Seriously, the world is swimming in birth control of various forms, you just have to buy it. Just because people don't want to pay for your birth control doesn't mean that they hate women, or there's a "war on women" anymore than it means there's a "war on Ontos" because there's no law stating that I have a right to free whiskey.

Jesus, birth control is cheap. If you can't afford it, don't fark.


This was never about access to free birth control, this was about not letting your employer decide your insurance should cost more to cover less because of his beliefs.
2012-09-30 05:16:34 PM
2 votes:

Teufelaffe: theknuckler_33: Harry_Seldon: RyogaM: cryinoutloud: $18,000, duh. I could get a tubal ligation for less than that. And you know what? If birth control costs that much, a lot of women would go for it. Then we could fark even more!

Cost of tubal ligation: 1500-6000
Cost to reverse tubal ligation: 10,000-15,000.

As long as you never want to have kids, it's a sound idea. But, change your mind, and you are now paying through the nose.

As you know, lots of women get other benefits from the pill besides birth control.;

Do they still ask their mom to pay for it when they are in their 30s? 'cause, you know, that would be embarrassing.

I know, it's just downright embarrassing to think that some people might actually still help their kids out even after they've grown up. I mean, once they've made it past the legally required 18 years of care, kids should never ask for any sort of assistance from their parents ever again. It's the American Way®.


Wait, people are taking the idea of this Ecard seriously?

Listen, the point of this Ecard is not that some woman is asking mommy to pay for her BC. That's just the set up. The idea of the is to explain to someone who may be thinking about voting for Romney of the consequences. Let's set it up:

Daughter: Hey, mom, I hear your thinking of voting for Romeny.

Mom: Yes, I am.

Daughter: Well, mom, he wants to get rid of Obamacare. And, if he does, it might mean my BC won't be covered. That could cost me up to $18,000 over my lifetime, you know.

Mom: Really? That's a lot of money.

Daughter: Right. It might be less, it might be more. But, guess what? If I don't have the money, I might come after you and dad for it, since it will be your fault for voting for Romney that I have to pay for it. Hint, Hint.

Mom: Hah hah! That's so silly! I understand you aren't serious about asking us to pay for your BC when you are older, but, your point that a Romney presidency may cost you unnecessary BC costs is well taken. I will consider it, when I'm making my decision.

Daughter: Thanks, that's all I ask.
2012-09-30 04:39:31 PM
2 votes:
I needed a special kind of birth control pill and I didn't have insurance, $250 a month which was more half of my mortgage payment at the time. Turns out, the pills may have killed me eventually because you're not supposed to take them if you see "auras" when you have a migraine. So, I migrated to an IUD, which I was able to get free at a local clinic. However, that slipped out of place and I got knocked up. The reason my IUD slipped out of place was the same reason that I needed surgery at 28 weeks to keep the kid from coming early. All of a sudden, it was a high risk pregnancy that my insurance wouldn't pay for because it wasn't high risk to me, it was high risk to my son and he wasn't on the insurance policy what with not being born and all. Pregnancy, surgery, delivery = nearly 30k or 120 months of my super expensive pills.

TL;DR: Birth control and pregnancy be 'spensive and life threatening. It ought to always, always, always be covered under insurance regardless of provider because you don't want women going without medical attention in these areas.
2012-09-30 03:01:35 PM
2 votes:
My wife spends 65+ a month for the birth control that won't interact with the other medications she's on. The only reason it's that cheap is she got a discount card from the manufacturer. Otherwise, it would be 90+ per month.
2012-09-30 02:27:53 PM
2 votes:
If they are tallying up birth control over the course of 30 years...it's pretty sad that this woman is still living off mom when she hits menopause.

But thats democrats for ya....sponging off other people well into middle life.
2012-09-30 02:13:54 PM
2 votes:
Since when did "access to" become the equivalent of "access to free" whatever it is?

Seriously, the world is swimming in birth control of various forms, you just have to buy it. Just because people don't want to pay for your birth control doesn't mean that they hate women, or there's a "war on women" anymore than it means there's a "war on Ontos" because there's no law stating that I have a right to free whiskey.

Jesus, birth control is cheap. If you can't afford it, don't fark.
2012-10-01 11:54:52 AM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: Karac: If birth control pills are medicine, then why shouldn't they be covered by health insurance the same way that insulin, antibiotics and viagra are?
And if they aren't medicine, they why do you have to have a prescription to get them?

Eh, I rank them with unnecessary medicine like Viagra, cosmetic surgery, vasectomies, etc. I don't mind if an insurance company chooses to cover those or not, but it kind of irks me that the government forces them to.


How many medical conditions do Viagra, cosmetic surgery, and vasectomies treat? There are a number of medical conditions that birth control pills help with, thereby putting them solidly into the realm of necessary medication in my book.
2012-10-01 05:27:01 AM
1 votes:
there is something severely broken on the Y chomosome. i am convinced of this. i love how men think they're smarter than women yet here's the thread that proves that wrong. will you assholes just shut the f*ck up and let the ladies deal with this? jesus f*cking christ.

you want to f*ck us (and still want the freedom to call us whores) but don't want us to get pregnant. problem solved -- go f*ck yourselves.

anyone who thinks we want the government to pay for our birth control is so beyond stupid that i'm surprised you can find your dick in the dark without a flashlight and map.

/welcome to fark, i get it
2012-10-01 01:36:49 AM
1 votes:

Dracolich: meat0918: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: $18,000 for some women over the course of a lifetime. Still a pretty misleading and generally stupid card though, since it doesn't cite that.

That's all? One difficult pregnancy is $25,000!

That's not even close to how high I've seen it go. Try adding in the words "premature" or "emergency." I haven't seen one hit 6 figures, but I'm betting that they can easily get there with a complication on top of that.


The price of a surgery to remove a large cyst & an ovary damaged by that cyst due to PCOS (which birth control treats) is $22,000. And that was 11 years ago so I imagine costs have gone up.
2012-09-30 06:58:30 PM
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: 'hey, I had to choose between food and birth control this month, can you spot me $50 so I don't have an unwanted child?"



Let's see:

Dear Mom, Mitt Romney wants to repeal Obamacare which means I may have to pay out of pocket for BC. So, quick question, I can't afford food this month, so can I borrow $50 so I don't have an unwanted child?


Mom: Dear daughter, don't fark this month, you'll be fine.

Still, not feeling it. It's a little too grim, the question invites an answer contrary to what we want the reader to answer (we want the answer to reflect that Romney is a bad choice because of his effect on Obamacare, your question causes the reader to think, "Christ, use a condom or keep your legs shut." That's not good.) It also ignores that BC is used for more than just BC. We also want to emphasize that this is something that will have long-term negative effects (Girl can't afford BC for several years), not that it is a simple inconvenience (No sex this month without a condom! Oh, nooo!)

There may have been a better way to get the point across, but the amount of criticism this eCard is getting is way out of proportion to the offense of the care, and offense that appears to be mostly based on the ridiculous notion that Obama really expects adults to borrow $18000 for BC from their parents, as the headline writer states.
2012-09-30 06:34:50 PM
1 votes:
Well, that certainly was a lot of hot air.
2012-09-30 06:33:41 PM
1 votes:

missiv: Most young girls are taking birth control long before they're out of Jr. High. B/C regulates periods, cramps and blood flow. Are GOP parents that much out of touch with the world they live in?


Yes. It's why they don't want girls to get the HPV vaccine, because it will just give them license to be super slutty whores if they know they won't get cancer as a result of farking.
2012-09-30 06:02:27 PM
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: I'm an Obama supporter, but you just seem to be giving a 'thumbs up' to everything coming out of the campaign just because. The point you made is 100% valid. It could EASILY be made into a concise ecard. They didn't do that. That was dumb.


It was dumb. It was clumsy. Fine. Call the Dumb and Clumsy Police and have Obama's Campaign arrested for being "dumb and clumsy."

BTW... I DIDN'T say that I approved of it. I didn't give it a thumbs up. I AM saying that people whining about it sound really stupid.

\you sound concerned.
2012-09-30 05:35:27 PM
1 votes:
Also, the whole "Asking your parents to borrow money" thing is a throwback to the old, Romeny, "Hey, need money to start a business or pay for school, ask to borrow from your parents like Jimmy Johns did!"

Really, it's pretty obvious.
2012-09-30 05:32:23 PM
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: RyogaM: Wait, people are taking the idea of this Ecard seriously?

Listen, the point of this Ecard is not that some woman is asking mommy to pay for her BC. That's just the set up. The idea of the is to explain to someone who may be thinking about voting for Romney of the consequences. Let's set it up:

Daughter: Hey, mom, I hear your thinking of voting for Romeny.

Mom: Yes, I am.

Daughter: Well, mom, he wants to get rid of Obamacare. And, if he does, it might mean my BC won't be covered. That could cost me up to $18,000 over my lifetime, you know.

Mom: Really? That's a lot of money.

Daughter: Right. It might be less, it might be more. But, guess what? If I don't have the money, I might come after you and dad for it, since it will be your fault for voting for Romney that I have to pay for it. Hint, Hint.

Mom: Hah hah! That's so silly! I understand you aren't serious about asking us to pay for your BC when you are older, but, your point that a Romney presidency may cost you unnecessary BC costs is well taken. I will consider it, when I'm making my decision.

Daughter: Thanks, that's all I ask.

Would have been easy enough to express that sentiment in a way other than "can I borrow $18K", don't you think? If that was the ploy, it was done clumsily.


Really? Look at what I wrote. It is ridiculously long-winded and clumsy and would never fit on an ecard in such a way as to get most people to read it. If I sent all I wrote on an Ecard to 25 people, 10 of them would open it, see that it's too damn long and delete it, 14 would delete it without opening it, and one would read it and wonder what the hell I was talking about. There is nothing wrong with the Ecard that anyone familiar with advertising cannot understand. The best part of waking up is NOT Folgers in your cup, It is not always "time to make the donuts," and everyone knows Where the beef is. I really don't understand how anyone can miss it.
2012-09-30 05:00:02 PM
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: Harry_Seldon: RyogaM: cryinoutloud: $18,000, duh. I could get a tubal ligation for less than that. And you know what? If birth control costs that much, a lot of women would go for it. Then we could fark even more!

Cost of tubal ligation: 1500-6000
Cost to reverse tubal ligation: 10,000-15,000.

As long as you never want to have kids, it's a sound idea. But, change your mind, and you are now paying through the nose.

As you know, lots of women get other benefits from the pill besides birth control.;

Do they still ask their mom to pay for it when they are in their 30s? 'cause, you know, that would be embarrassing.


I know, it's just downright embarrassing to think that some people might actually still help their kids out even after they've grown up. I mean, once they've made it past the legally required 18 years of care, kids should never ask for any sort of assistance from their parents ever again. It's the American Way®.
2012-09-30 04:53:31 PM
1 votes:

RyogaM: cryinoutloud: $18,000, duh. I could get a tubal ligation for less than that. And you know what? If birth control costs that much, a lot of women would go for it. Then we could fark even more!

Cost of tubal ligation: 1500-6000
Cost to reverse tubal ligation: 10,000-15,000.

As long as you never want to have kids, it's a sound idea. But, change your mind, and you are now paying through the nose.


As you know, lots of women get other benefits from the pill besides birth control.;
2012-09-30 04:49:10 PM
1 votes:

Dinki: Hey liarmitter, the $18,000 isn't for one year, it's the savings a women could get for birth control for her lifetime. But you already knew that, didn't you, you dishonest sack of shiat.


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Take this weak-assed shiat over to the Freepers.
2012-09-30 04:47:30 PM
1 votes:

CujoQuarrel: You can get some of the BC pills from WallMart/Target etc at $10 for a 3 month supply no insurance needed.


If you're able to take those pills. Birth control pills are NOT one size fits all. That's why there are so many different kinds and require a doctor's visit.
2012-09-30 04:31:27 PM
1 votes:
lolsnaps.com
2012-09-30 04:25:36 PM
1 votes:

Tumunga: mrlewish: WelldeadLink: Newsbusters says that's enough for 154 years of birth control pills. Wow, the health system must have gotten much better if we'll have 154 years before menopause.

You freaking moron. That is with good health insurance. Without.. that would be 50+ bucks a month.

Thanks for playing.

You're mom's a freaking moran. You fail. $9 birth control, no insurance needed, and it doesn't involve your sister waiting by the bed to slurp up the money shot before you knock your mom up again...

Link goes to the FarkLibtard's favorite squinched faced repubtard blogger


And as we all know there are only two birth control pills in existence and every woman on Earth can take either one without issue. Next thing you'll be telling us is that since Asprin is super cheap, no one should ever have to pay more than a few dollars per month to treat a heart condition.
2012-09-30 04:05:32 PM
1 votes:
subby, close, but not accurate.

she wants $18,000 to help pay for her birth control. So clearly she thinks that she will actually have to pay more than $18,000 for her birth control.

always funny to see little the left understand economics or reality.
2012-09-30 03:40:04 PM
1 votes:

Giltric: missiv: Most young girls are taking birth control long before they're out of Jr. High. B/C regulates periods, cramps and blood flow. Are GOP parents that much out of touch with the world they live in?

I betthe reason they are talking it are because the little whores want to fark and the regulating menstrual cycle thing is an excuse.


Unless you've got some sort of citation to back that up, you're just goofing for attention.

But on a more serious note, why is it that young guys who want to fark are considered normal, but young girls who want to fark are considered whores?
2012-09-30 03:04:22 PM
1 votes:
Yeah the way its worded opens it up for criticism. She's asking for help to pay (assuming short term) not asking her parents to pay for it for the rest of her life.

Comon dems we don't need this king of thing to make repubs look bad, just quote them.
2012-09-30 02:56:43 PM
1 votes:

draa: Fark used to be decent place to come and lurk and just read stories and comments. Lately I would set fire to this farking place just to watch it burn. The Derp is so farking deep around here that I'm constantly having to clean shiat from around my neck. AND SUBBY IS A FARKING RETARD.


Welcome to fark: come for the snark, stay for the trolls.
2012-09-30 02:30:26 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-09-30 02:29:15 PM
1 votes:
Because when you're way behind among women voters, the thing to do is double down on the war on sluts.

You've been trolled once again, Republicans. And you keep falling for it.
2012-09-30 02:23:36 PM
1 votes:

Ontos: Since when did "access to" become the equivalent of "access to free" whatever it is?


Somebody doesn't know how insurance works.
2012-09-30 02:15:44 PM
1 votes:
The Obama campaign long ago recognized that it couldn't make a case for the president's re-election without distorting its accomplishments and details of its opponent's platform. One area in which the duplicity has been especially thick is women's rights.

Ooh, classic RW projection/fdeflection is that.

The GOP has long realized that they can't make a case against Obama without distorting his accomplishments and should not be allowed to even say the word "platform" until Mitt coughs up something resembling an actual plan that people can properly analyze.

The GOP's duplicity regarding their "What war on Women?!" derp is long noted is these parts.

The 18K claim is pure BS.

Whenever I see a Hot Air link I always think of that "Opinions are like assholes" quote.

That site is a veritable Dutch oven of hot rank air.
2012-09-30 02:12:26 PM
1 votes:

WelldeadLink: Newsbusters says that's enough for 154 years of birth control pills. Wow, the health system must have gotten much better if we'll have 154 years before menopause.


Until my BC finally got treated like any other damn medicine, I was paying $20/month, with insurance, for the most generic of the generics. Of course, lots of people react badly to that... And then the costs go up and up and up.

154 years of the cheapest BC, at the cheapest rate that I, personally, have never seen in my entire life. I don't doubt that exists somewhere, but until this year I never paid less than $20/month for BC, including at my student health center *and* Planned Parenthood when I was inbetween insurance plans.

Now I pay $10.
2012-09-30 02:12:12 PM
1 votes:
These are people who think a woman takes a pill every time she has sex. You cannot reason with this level of stupidity.
2012-09-30 02:03:53 PM
1 votes:

cman: What in the blue hell am I reading?


Hot Air - It's a GOP derp site that actually is honest in what it calls itself.
2012-09-30 12:16:12 PM
1 votes:
Dear Daughter:
You'd better start taking it in the pooper.
--Dad
2012-09-30 12:12:02 PM
1 votes:

dogdaze: It's your Sunday wingnut troll link. Have fun kids.


You say that like there's only one
2012-09-30 12:11:41 PM
1 votes:
So is this the Obama Slut Tax?
2012-09-30 12:10:53 PM
1 votes:
It's your Sunday wingnut troll link. Have fun kids.
2012-09-30 12:01:28 PM
1 votes:
Do you want to pay for pills, condoms, foams, etc? Or do you want to pay for a new baby or STD treatment? Choice is yours America. Oh, wait, you can tell your daughters to be chaste. Yeah. That will work.
 
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