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2012-09-30 08:30:50 AM  
Going to the first game of the Rangers-Angels doubleheader. Not crazy about the 12:05 start time but what can you do?
 
2012-09-30 09:40:08 AM  
Someone almost has to clinch at least a wildcard spot today. That said what is the second tiebreaker when both teams would make the playoffs.
 
2012-09-30 09:58:55 AM  

Nefarious: Someone almost has to clinch at least a wildcard spot today. That said what is the second tiebreaker when both teams would make the playoffs.


I believe they play a one game tie-breaker.
 
2012-09-30 10:20:57 AM  
Still hoping for a Beltway Series. That would hopefully shut up the Phillies, Sox and Yankees for a while.
 
2012-09-30 10:29:29 AM  

kronicfeld: Still hoping for a Beltway Series. That would hopefully shut up the Phillies, Sox and Yankees for a while.


In case you haven't noticed, we've long since shut up in Boston. Even us non-Red Saaaks Nashin, non-"pink hats and frat boys" types.
 
2012-09-30 10:35:40 AM  
Actually, it would be more appropriate if the Rangers were playing the Mariners than the Angels today. We are having rather Seattle like weather this weekend.
 
2012-09-30 10:45:10 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Nefarious: Someone almost has to clinch at least a wildcard spot today. That said what is the second tiebreaker when both teams would make the playoffs.

I believe they play a one game tie-breaker.


It depends. If the two teams tied are two division winners or two wild cards, they go to the numerical tie breaker. 1st is H2H, 2nd is division record, 3rd is last 81 non-interleague games.

If it's between a division winner and a wild card, yes, they play an extra game.

kronicfeld: Still hoping for a Beltway Series. That would hopefully shut up the Phillies, Sox and Yankees for a while.


What do you mean? I haven't seen a peep out of Philly fans this year, we all know what a dismal state the Red Sox are in, and Yankees fans (at least the ones on Fark) tend to only be vocal when A) attacked or B) a cheap shot at the Red Sox arises. 

As for clinching scenarios, the Rangers will clinch a spot if the Rangers win either game against the Angels today (double header).
Yankees and O's clinch with any 2 of a win and/or Angels loss.
 
2012-09-30 11:14:44 AM  
the Brewers were very meh this year, but when aren't they. At this point there is technically still a chance for them to make the wild card, but I wouldn't bet on it
 
2012-09-30 11:39:59 AM  
How has Texas not clinched something? Even if they lose the rest of their games there's only one other team that could have a higher record than them that's not a division winner. Either the Yankees or Baltimore will win the division, the other will probably be a Wild Card. The Rays can't catch them, the Angels can't catch them.

What am I missing?
 
2012-09-30 12:12:37 PM  
Dear Chicago White Sox:
 
I don't love you any more.  Here's the keys.  I'm leaving.  My divorce lawyer will have papers prepared for you this week.
 
-Downstairs
 
2012-09-30 12:17:10 PM  
I still love the Red Sox, they are back to the team of my youth.
 
Comforting.
 
2012-09-30 12:31:21 PM  

jaylectricity: How has Texas not clinched something? Even if they lose the rest of their games there's only one other team that could have a higher record than them that's not a division winner. Either the Yankees or Baltimore will win the division, the other will probably be a Wild Card. The Rays can't catch them, the Angels can't catch them.

What am I missing?



Well, according to Cool Standings (put it on their "dumb" settings where they essentially play out the season like 100,000 times with a flip of a coin)... Texas gets into the playoffs 99.9% of the time.  Not 100%.  So there must be some very rare series of events that doesn't allow them to clinch*
 
*Chances are the worst they could do is find themselves in a tiebreaker situation, which in baseball has to be played out on the field with actual games.
 
2012-09-30 12:32:11 PM  
Dear Detroit Tigers: i798.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-30 12:32:21 PM  

downstairs: Dear Chicago White Sox:
 
I don't love you any more.  Here's the keys.  I'm leaving.  My divorce lawyer will have papers prepared for you this week.
 
-Downstairs


What? They're neck and neck with Detroit! I love my Tigers, but I have no allusions about their ability to choke.
 
2012-09-30 12:33:12 PM  
www.yankeeanalysts.com

I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore
 
2012-09-30 12:35:54 PM  

mikemoto: Actually, it would be more appropriate if the Rangers were playing the Mariners than the Angels today. We are having rather Seattle like weather this weekend.


*grumble*farkin' seattle last night*grumble*
 
2012-09-30 12:37:31 PM  

born_yesterday: downstairs: Dear Chicago White Sox:
 
I don't love you any more.  Here's the keys.  I'm leaving.  My divorce lawyer will have papers prepared for you this week.
 
-Downstairs

What? They're neck and neck with Detroit! I love my Tigers, but I have no allusions about their ability to choke.


Yeah, technically Detroit can collapse.  But even if they tried to lose this thing, I think the White Sox will give this thing to you anyway.  Detroit can lose their next 4, and I still wouldn't bet on the White Sox taking the division.
 
 
2012-09-30 12:39:40 PM  

jaylectricity: How has Texas not clinched something? Even if they lose the rest of their games there's only one other team that could have a higher record than them that's not a division winner. Either the Yankees or Baltimore will win the division, the other will probably be a Wild Card. The Rays can't catch them, the Angels can't catch them.

What am I missing?


LA is 5 games behind Texas with 5 games to play. Oakland is 1 behind. If Texas lost out, LA won out, and Oakland ended up winning the division, LA and Texas would play a tiebreaker for the second wildcard. That's not terribly likely, of course.

This is all assuming Baltimore and NY split the AL East and the first wildcard. I think Tampa would pretty much be eliminated in this scenario.
 
2012-09-30 12:45:06 PM  

downstairs: born_yesterday: downstairs: Dear Chicago White Sox:
 
I don't love you any more.  Here's the keys.  I'm leaving.  My divorce lawyer will have papers prepared for you this week.
 
-Downstairs

What? They're neck and neck with Detroit! I love my Tigers, but I have no allusions about their ability to choke.

Yeah, technically Detroit can collapse.  But even if they tried to lose this thing, I think the White Sox will give this thing to you anyway.  Detroit can lose their next 4, and I still wouldn't bet on the White Sox taking the division.


The Tigers blew a 3-game lead with 4 to play in 2009, forcing them to a tiebreaker game. And in 2006 they got swept by the Royals in the last series of the season to lose the division then (but were saved by the wildcard).

Plus, the White Sox get to play Cleveland for their last series.
 
2012-09-30 12:51:15 PM  
Woo hoo. A 3rd place finish in the division! Go KC!
 
2012-09-30 12:53:09 PM  
Are the Rockies still a top 20 team?
 
2012-09-30 12:54:43 PM  
Baseball sucks.

Always has, always will.
 
2012-09-30 12:55:49 PM  

wxboy: downstairs: born_yesterday: downstairs: Dear Chicago White Sox:
 
I don't love you any more.  Here's the keys.  I'm leaving.  My divorce lawyer will have papers prepared for you this week.
 
-Downstairs

What? They're neck and neck with Detroit! I love my Tigers, but I have no allusions about their ability to choke.

Yeah, technically Detroit can collapse.  But even if they tried to lose this thing, I think the White Sox will give this thing to you anyway.  Detroit can lose their next 4, and I still wouldn't bet on the White Sox taking the division.

The Tigers blew a 3-game lead with 4 to play in 2009, forcing them to a tiebreaker game. And in 2006 they got swept by the Royals in the last series of the season to lose the division then (but were saved by the wildcard).

Plus, the White Sox get to play Cleveland for their last series.


Cleveland took 2 of 3 from the White Sox last week and the Tigers last series ends with the Royals, who the Tigers just swept a week ago. I mean, anything can happen, but how they played a week ago is more relevant than 2006 or 2009, and things are looking good for the Tigers. *knocks on wood*
 
2012-09-30 01:04:52 PM  
I'm enjoying the hell out of being a Tigers fan living in the heart of White Sox country. I'll have to put my Tigers hat away once the Tigers clinch so I don't get jumped and beaten.
 
2012-09-30 01:09:28 PM  

jmr61: Baseball sucks.

Always has, always will.


So does your mom, but I don't post about it in every slut thread.
 
2012-09-30 01:10:53 PM  

Concerned face is concerned.

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-30 01:13:01 PM  

jmr61: Baseball sucks.

Always has, always will.


Thank you for your very relevant opinion that you took the time to post...in a baseball thread. I will reconsider my interest in the season because of you.
 
2012-09-30 01:19:39 PM  
Since I haven't biatched about WAR rankings for a few weeks now, I'm just going to leave this here:

01 Angels
02 Brewers
03 Cardinals
04 Braves
05 Giants
06 Nationals
07 Yankees
08 Diamondbacks
09 Reds
10 Rangers
11 Padres
12 Phillies
13 Athletics
14 Twins
15 Rays
16 Pirates
17 Tigers
18 Dodgers
19 Red Sox
20 Mets
21 Rockies
22 White Sox
23 Royals
24 Marlins
25 Blue Jays
26 Orioles
27 Cubs
28 Mariners
29 Indians
30 Astros 

/Go O's
 
2012-09-30 01:26:53 PM  
Oh awesome. Phil Hughes sucks today.
 
2012-09-30 01:32:09 PM  
Rays:(
 
2012-09-30 01:32:52 PM  

wxboy: LA is 5 games behind Texas with 5 games to play. Oakland is 1 behind. If Texas lost out, LA won out, and Oakland ended up winning the division, LA and Texas would play a tiebreaker for the second wildcard. That's not terribly likely, of course.


Oh, that's it...for some reason I must have thought I saw LA with 71 losses.
 
2012-09-30 01:34:12 PM  

born_yesterday: downstairs: Dear Chicago White Sox:
 
I don't love you any more.  Here's the keys.  I'm leaving.  My divorce lawyer will have papers prepared for you this week.
 
-Downstairs

What? They're neck and neck with Detroit! I love my Tigers, but I have no allusions about their ability to choke.


2 games back with 4 to go?
 
2012-09-30 01:36:30 PM  

Altitude5280: Concerned face is concerned. [img.photobucket.com image 260x190]


I'm pretty sure he has other things to worry about.
 
2012-09-30 01:36:31 PM  

degenerate-afro: Since I haven't biatched about WAR rankings for a few weeks now, I'm just going to leave this here:

01 Angels
02 Brewers
03 Cardinals
04 Braves
05 Giants
06 Nationals
07 Yankees
08 Diamondbacks
09 Reds
10 Rangers
11 Padres
12 Phillies
13 Athletics
14 Twins
15 Rays
16 Pirates
17 Tigers
18 Dodgers
19 Red Sox
20 Mets
21 Rockies
22 White Sox
23 Royals
24 Marlins
25 Blue Jays
26 Orioles
27 Cubs
28 Mariners
29 Indians
30 Astros 

/Go O's


Got to love how the O's have just confounded all the stat geeks this year. How many teams 24 games over .500 manage to do so with a +8 run differential?
 
2012-09-30 01:36:49 PM  
I browsed on over to ESPN to check the score of the Tigers vs Twins and almost shiat a brick when it said that Minnesota was up on the Tigers 10-3. Took a few seconds to realize it was the score of the Vikings, Lions game.
 
2012-09-30 01:37:22 PM  
a 3 way tie for the wildcard is very possible and some people have been pointing this out for weeks. what a interesting mess that will be. all i know is i'm going to be on a cruise ship watching the ws while eating and drinking myself silly unless it ends in a 4 game sweep without any rainouts. hopefully this time the cruise line won't have a international feed in spanish for it.
 
2012-09-30 01:46:26 PM  
Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Yankees end up in the wild card game and lose?
 
2012-09-30 01:49:35 PM  

wxboy: Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Yankees end up in the wild card game and lose?


Yeah. Real laugh riot. Why would it be any more or less funny than any other team that loses the wild card game?
 
2012-09-30 01:51:28 PM  

The Bestest: wxboy: Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Yankees end up in the wild card game and lose?

Yeah. Real laugh riot. Why would it be any more or less funny than any other team that loses the wild card game?


Just for the ulcers that will give executives at TBS, Fox, and ESPN.
 
2012-09-30 01:53:11 PM  

wxboy: Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Yankees end up in the wild card game and lose?


Won't happen, the Yankees are destined to become the Tigers biatch for the 3rd time in the past 7 years.
 
2012-09-30 01:59:29 PM  
This 2012 Orioles team is one of the strangest I have ever seen. Weird things just happen absolutely constantly. It's the kind of season that makes being a baseball fan worth it. I don't know why, I don't get that connection as much as football (which I do like, too). But like this year, Chris Davis comes in from DHing to pitch 2 scoreless innings to get the win in a 17 inning game. Strikes out two hitters including Adrian Gonzalez. I don't know, I think the football equivalent would be a punter playing at quarterback and marching the team downfield to win inside the 2 minute mark. Surreal to watch. And basically, that Chris Davis win is the thing that just keeps happening. Ryan Flaherty hit a grand slam on Friday night. This shiat is actually happening.
 
2012-09-30 02:00:06 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Won't happen, the Yankees are destined to become the Tigers biatch for the 3rd time in the past 7 years.


This actually worries me, almost to the point of rather getting the wild card than the division.
Though they've struggled this year, the Tigers are still very dangerous in a short series. I don't envy whomever gets the #2 seed (the AL Central winner is locked into the #3 seed), and unless something wacky happens, the Rangers are getting the #1. It's not all roses for the Rangers either; they (just like whomever winds up the NL #1 this year) have to play the first two games (of a 5 game series) on the road at the wild card game winner's field.
 
2012-09-30 02:06:13 PM  
You know Red Sox, I would've figured you guys would've had some modicum of pride and would attempt vindication from last year and, yanno.. actually suit up to play against the O's.

My mistake.. won't make it again.
 
2012-09-30 02:08:25 PM  

downstairs: born_yesterday: downstairs: Dear Chicago White Sox:
 
I don't love you any more.  Here's the keys.  I'm leaving.  My divorce lawyer will have papers prepared for you this week.
 
-Downstairs

What? They're neck and neck with Detroit! I love my Tigers, but I have no allusions about their ability to choke.

Yeah, technically Detroit can collapse.  But even if they tried to lose this thing, I think the White Sox will give this thing to you anyway.  Detroit can lose their next 4, and I still wouldn't bet on the White Sox taking the division.


I'm pretty sure if the Tigers win and the Sox lose today it would mean the worst the Tigers can do is the tiebreaker. I like our chances in a single game against the white sox.
 
2012-09-30 02:16:59 PM  
As much as I'm hoping the Yankees turn this game around (which can totally happen at only 2-1) so they can stay at least tied with Baltimore (wow I never thought I'd say that), I still stand by my statement that if this is Baltimore's year, so be it - they deserve one after this long. Still, get it together Yankees! Ichiro deserves a ring too.
 
2012-09-30 02:18:36 PM  
StupidWhiteSox are already losing!
 
2012-09-30 02:19:49 PM  

FriarReb98: kronicfeld: Still hoping for a Beltway Series. That would hopefully shut up the Phillies, Sox and Yankees for a while.

In case you haven't noticed, we've long since shut up in Boston. Even us non-Red Saaaks Nashin, non-"pink hats and frat boys" types.


Boston fans never shut up.
 
2012-09-30 02:29:44 PM  
Gah, fark you Phil Hughes, you walking disaster, you snot-filled tissue, you worthless jelly, you fountain of excrement.
 
2012-09-30 02:36:04 PM  

degenerate-afro: Since I haven't biatched about WAR rankings for a few weeks now, I'm just going to leave this here:

01 Angels
02 Brewers
03 Cardinals
04 Braves
05 Giants
06 Nationals
07 Yankees
08 Diamondbacks
09 Reds
10 Rangers
11 Padres
12 Phillies
13 Athletics
14 Twins
15 Rays
16 Pirates
17 Tigers
18 Dodgers
19 Red Sox
20 Mets
21 Rockies
22 White Sox
23 Royals
24 Marlins
25 Blue Jays
26 Orioles
27 Cubs
28 Mariners
29 Indians
30 Astros 

/Go O's


That's just position players - pitching isn't added in.
 
2012-09-30 02:42:56 PM  

Rex_Banner: degenerate-afro: Since I haven't biatched about WAR rankings for a few weeks now, I'm just going to leave this here:

01 Angels
02 Brewers
03 Cardinals
04 Braves
05 Giants
06 Nationals
07 Yankees
08 Diamondbacks
09 Reds
10 Rangers
11 Padres
12 Phillies
13 Athletics
14 Twins
15 Rays
16 Pirates
17 Tigers
18 Dodgers
19 Red Sox
20 Mets
21 Rockies
22 White Sox
23 Royals
24 Marlins
25 Blue Jays
26 Orioles
27 Cubs
28 Mariners
29 Indians
30 Astros 

/Go O's

That's just position players - pitching isn't added in.


Pitching WAR:
01 Tigers
02 Rangers
03 Rays
04 Nationals
05 Reds
06 Diamondbacks
07 Yankees
08 Phillies
09 Cardinals
10 Braves
11 White Sox
12 Brewers
13 Athletics
14 Orioles
15 Dodgers
16 Giants
17 Red Sox
18 Marlins
19 Royals
20 Mets
21 Rockies
22 Mariners
23 Pirates
24 Angels
25 Astros
26 Indians
27 Cubs
28 Blue Jays
29 Padres
30 Twins

Fielding WAR:
01 Braves
02 Angels
03 Mariners
04 Red Sox
05 Twins
06 Athletics
07 Diamondbacks
08 Rangers
09 Cubs
10 Reds
11 Pirates
12 Nationals
13 Rays
14 Brewers
15 Giants
16 Dodgers
17 White Sox
18 Phillies
19 Blue Jays
20 Yankees
21 Royals
22 Marlins
23 Padres
24 Cardinals
25 Mets
26 Orioles
27 Tigers
28 Astros
29 Rockies
30 Indians

26th in Batting
14th in Pitching
26th in Fielding

1st place in the AL East.
 
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