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2012-09-30 09:31:55 AM
Was the obvious tag arrested for fraud?
 
2012-09-30 09:50:29 AM

Mugato: Was the obvious tag arrested for fraud?


no, but the fail tag wasn't allowed, because it didn't have the proper ID.
 
2012-09-30 10:12:43 AM

SilentStrider: Mugato: Was the obvious tag arrested for fraud?

no, but the fail tag wasn't allowed, because it didn't have the proper ID.


...and the Florida tag was told to go to the wrong thread.
 
2012-09-30 10:22:33 AM

sno man: SilentStrider: Mugato: Was the obvious tag arrested for fraud?

no, but the fail tag wasn't allowed, because it didn't have the proper ID.

...and the Florida tag was told to go to the wrong thread.


.. And the Hero tag served in World War II but ironically now cannot vote.
 
2012-09-30 10:23:02 AM
This is not a good year for Republicans.
 
2012-09-30 10:25:55 AM
Grand Old Projection
 
2012-09-30 10:39:50 AM

Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.


let's hope.
 
2012-09-30 10:41:31 AM
Well, that's silly. Why would they falsify registrations? What's to be gained by an additional few hundred registrations?

The state Republican Party, which paid the company $1.3 million to register voters ...

Oh, there it is.

This is the same crap that got the GOP's panties in a twist about ACORN. The exact same thing. People hired to register voters that get paid based on how many registrations they bring in. So they falsify a stack of registrations and call it a day. Except in this case, it's the GOP that's paying them. And sure, we believe that the FL State Republican Party paid a company $1.3 million to register voters regardless of party affiliation, right? They just sent them out and said 'be fair! Register as many people as you can! We don't care if you register more Democrats than Republicans!'
 
2012-09-30 10:45:28 AM
GOP screaming about this being why all the new voter laws are necessary in 3... 2...

/all part of the plan
 
2012-09-30 10:50:45 AM
There's something beautiful about Republican voter suppression legislation backfiring and catching only Republicans.
 
2012-09-30 10:59:39 AM
ACORN?

i369.photobucket.com

Yep, not even updating it from 4 years ago.
 
2012-09-30 11:06:06 AM
If you ever want to know what funny business the GOP is up to, just look and see what they are accusing Democats and liberal groups of at any given moment.
 
2012-09-30 11:10:30 AM

The RNC's involvement with this character goes back years and looks to be pretty shady.

And it's more than just getting defrauded by their own employees with fake voter registrations:

Sproul got into a bit of trouble last fall when, in certain states, it came out that the firm was playing dirty tricks in order to suppress the Democratic vote: concealing their partisan agenda, tricking Democrats into registering as Republicans, surreptitiously re-registering Democrats and Independents as Republicans, and shredding Democratic registration forms.
 
2012-09-30 11:10:59 AM

Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.


And Republicans are not good for this year.
 
2012-09-30 11:12:10 AM
suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"
 
2012-09-30 11:12:58 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: There's something beautiful about Republican voter suppression legislation backfiring and catching only Republicans.


But are they catching enough republicans for it to matter?
 
2012-09-30 11:16:07 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left?


I know I'm wasting my time with this, but it's Sunday and I'm not really doing anything else so....

Got any reliable citations for this "actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left"?
 
2012-09-30 11:16:37 AM

Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.


Perhaps, but don't ever forget the GOP has an amazing talent to skate by on all of it's corruption and malfeasance unpunished. There is a hardcore 25% who will vote for them no matter what and all it takes is a some folks from center plus a few Dems to vote for the right and the Republicans are back in power.
The GOP is never finished just like evil never disappears, it only hides for awhile then blossoms again.
/and again
//and again
 
2012-09-30 11:19:14 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"


You should get some sleep.
 
2012-09-30 11:23:34 AM
Republicans: Where did you learn about voter fraud?
Public: You, alright? I learned it fromm watching you!
 
2012-09-30 11:24:40 AM
GOP solution to voter fraud: More laws.

Democratic solution: Tell the GOP to stop sponsoring voter fraud.
 
2012-09-30 11:25:16 AM

ThatGuyGreg: GOP screaming about this being why all the new voter laws are necessary in 3... 2...

/all part of the plan


Yup.
 
2012-09-30 11:26:12 AM
That's the GOP for you.
All but outright steal two elections in a row, then keep on keeping on with your electoral/voter fraud and disenfranchisement, meanwhile claiming there must be some sort of conspiracy because there's no way a black guy can be born in the US or that Americans would vote for him. Going so far as to have a douche dressed like a pimp just make up shiat since they don't actually have any evidence.
 
2012-09-30 11:26:34 AM

The Dreaded Rear Admiral: tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"

You should get some sleep.


Hi. Some of us have him on ignore. Please don't quote him.
 
2012-09-30 11:27:26 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"


Goodbye forever.
 
2012-09-30 11:28:22 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"


You sound tired. Try to come up with something post-2009.......and true.
 
2012-09-30 11:28:54 AM
I've been following Nathan Sproul since 2004 when he and his minions were messing committing blatant voter registration fraud in Nevada. The guy should spend a long, long time in prison.
 
2012-09-30 11:28:56 AM

Doc Daneeka: If you ever want to know what funny business the GOP is up to, just look and see what they are accusing Democats and liberal groups of at any given moment.


This.
I loved the photo of Romney frightening a baby. Next day's headline was, GOP latest attack Is Pres. Obama Scares Babies.
 
2012-09-30 11:29:17 AM

Party Boy: ACORN?

[i369.photobucket.com image 500x75]

Yep, not even updating it from 4 years ago.


inigomontoya.jpg
 
2012-09-30 11:30:51 AM
"n Colorado, a young woman employed by Strategic Allied was shown on a video outside a store in Colorado Springs recently telling a potential voter that she wanted to register only Republicans and that she worked for the county clerk's office. The woman was fired, said Ryan Call, chairman of the Colorado Republican Party."

Well then... It's nice to see someone was paying attention.
 
2012-09-30 11:31:35 AM

Doc Daneeka: If you ever want to know what funny business the GOP is up to, just look and see what they are accusing Democats and liberal groups of at any given moment.

 
2012-09-30 11:31:51 AM
Have fun poking the retard with a stick playing with the troll, y'all.

I'm going for coffee.
 
2012-09-30 11:33:16 AM

Kurmudgeon: Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.

Perhaps, but don't ever forget the GOP has an amazing talent to skate by on all of it's corruption and malfeasance unpunished. There is a hardcore 25% who will vote for them no matter what and all it takes is a some folks from center plus a few Dems to vote for the right and the Republicans are back in power.
The GOP is never finished just like evil never disappears, it only hides for awhile then blossoms again.
/and again
//and again


$0%
 
2012-09-30 11:33:51 AM

Into the blue again: Kurmudgeon: Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.

Perhaps, but don't ever forget the GOP has an amazing talent to skate by on all of it's corruption and malfeasance unpunished. There is a hardcore 25% who will vote for them no matter what and all it takes is a some folks from center plus a few Dems to vote for the right and the Republicans are back in power.
The GOP is never finished just like evil never disappears, it only hides for awhile then blossoms again.
/and again
//and again

$0%


Uggh... I fail

40%
 
2012-09-30 11:35:32 AM

BMulligan: I've been following Nathan Sproul since 2004 when he and his minions were messing committing blatant voter registration fraud in Nevada. The guy should spend a long, long time in prison.


Tampering with elections should be considered treason.

I'm not a big fan of gerrymandering either, district boundaries should be drawn programatically based on a public algorithm and data set so that third parties can validate that the boundaries drawn using only population density as a factor and not other demographic variables.
 
2012-09-30 11:35:56 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"


Case in point.
Even after the lies have been exposed this useful idiot or party operative chooses to continue the disproved lies about ACORN and "the left" (if only America had one) and ignore the obvious history of election rigging by the GOP.
 
2012-09-30 11:36:11 AM

Kurmudgeon: Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.

Perhaps, but don't ever forget the GOP has an amazing talent to skate by on all of it's corruption and malfeasance unpunished. There is a hardcore 25% who will vote for them no matter what and all it takes is a some folks from center plus a few Dems to vote for the right and the Republicans are back in power.
The GOP is never finished just like evil never disappears, it only hides for awhile then blossoms again.
/and again
//and again


This behavior is older than the GOP itself. You could probably trace a straight line back to the people whining about the election in 1824.

Short summary: John Quincy Adams vs Andrew Jackson (vs William Crawford). Election gets decided in the House thanks to a split vote, where Crawford supporters who knew they lost voted for their second choice (Adams), who won. Jackson and his followers get supremely butthurt about it and managed to spin the narrative into "The Corrupt Bargain of 1824."

Jackson really is the prototype for the modern conservative. Crying about Washington elites when he loses, styling himself as the champion of Real Americans, ignoring court orders he doesn't like because Activist Judges, treating minorities like shiat, dismantling the central bank, whining about the press "attacking him" with accusations that happened to be true, etc.
 
2012-09-30 11:37:11 AM

Mixolydian Master: The Dreaded Rear Admiral: tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"

You should get some sleep.

Hi. Some of us have him on ignore. Please don't quote him.


My bad.

/yes I just did it again
//but what's done is done
 
2012-09-30 11:37:35 AM

BMulligan: I've been following Nathan Sproul since 2004 when he and his minions were messing committing blatant voter registration fraud in Nevada. The guy should spend a long, long time in prison.


Such a light sentence for treason?
 
2012-09-30 11:38:43 AM

machodonkeywrestler: inigomontoya.jpg


I'm bored.

Go on about how the "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but ACORN" argument is somehow not a Tu Quoque (a subset of a red herring)

Lets have it.
 
2012-09-30 11:40:34 AM

m2313: That's the GOP for you.
All but outright steal two elections in a row, then keep on keeping on with your electoral/voter fraud and disenfranchisement, meanwhile claiming there must be some sort of conspiracy because there's no way a black guy can be born in the US or that Americans would vote for him. Going so far as to have a douche dressed like a pimp just make up shiat since they don't actually have any evidence.


Say, can I ask you something? Did you log into the wrong account today?

According to my notes, you've engaged in massive right wing trolling in the past, in particular in threads having to do with climate change and religion.
 
2012-09-30 11:40:50 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"


What's sad is that I KNEW you'd say something like this.

This is disappointing. All the RW trolls are no longer funny and too predictable... I even have to put 10lbsoffeces on the ignore list for being predictable now...
 
2012-09-30 11:44:52 AM

m2313: tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"

Case in point.
Even after the lies have been exposed this useful idiot or party operative chooses to continue the disproved lies about ACORN and "the left" (if only America had one) and ignore the obvious history of election rigging by the GOP.


B-b-but...one of them had a stick, I tell you....A STICK!!!
 
2012-09-30 11:45:26 AM
Just for the record: Obama volunteers who canvass to register voters (and sign people up for Vote By Mail) are not paid.

I live in Iowa. Yesterday, 27 people drove in from Chicago (at their own expense) to come to our house (we made chili, pie, cake... hey, we're Iowans!) and they canvassed our neighborhood for Obama. More than 119,000 Democrats had sent requests for ballots, compared with 25,000 Republicans.
 
2012-09-30 11:45:33 AM
Given the GOP's propensity for projection, seeing this after four years of "duuuurrrr, ACORN!" doesn't surprise me a bit.
 
2012-09-30 11:46:53 AM
those Republican Farkwads know they're going to have a black President until 2016 so they are pulling out all stops. they're letting their hair down and going for broke.

the losers. lol
 
2012-09-30 11:47:37 AM

Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.




and THAT means its going to be a good year for the Nation.
 
2012-09-30 11:47:43 AM

Party Boy: machodonkeywrestler: inigomontoya.jpg

I'm bored.

Go on about how the "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but ACORN" argument is somehow not a Tu Quoque (a subset of a red herring)

Lets have it.


It's not and was never presented as and excuse nor as a information that would make the GOP's voter fraud excusable. It's more just picking on the GOP's hypocrisy, not anything that anyone would use as a valid argument.
 
2012-09-30 11:48:18 AM

Party Boy: machodonkeywrestler: inigomontoya.jpg

I'm bored.

Go on about how the "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but ACORN" argument is somehow not a Tu Quoque (a subset of a red herring)

Lets have it.


And you misspelled boring.
 
2012-09-30 11:48:22 AM
Party before Country.

its the Republican way.
 
2012-09-30 11:50:21 AM
img0.fark.net Really??? That's the source? I guessing they're having a collective thrill running down their legs. Hope it not piss.

/wet clean up isle 5.
 
2012-09-30 11:50:32 AM

machodonkeywrestler: It's not and was never presented as and excuse nor as a information that would make the GOP's voter fraud excusable. It's more just picking on the GOP's hypocrisy, not anything that anyone would use as a valid argument.


Looks like you need a definition of Tu Quoque.

Party Boy: Go on about how the "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but ACORN" argument is somehow not a Tu Quoque (a subset of a red herring)


Tu Quoque is a very common fallacy in which one attempts to defend oneself or another from criticism by turning the critique back against the accuser. This is a classic Red Herring since whether the accuser is guilty of the same, or a similar, wrong is irrelevant to the truth of the original charge. However, as a diversionary tactic, Tu Quoque can be very effective, since the accuser is put on the defensive, and frequently feels compelled to defend against the accusation.
 
2012-09-30 11:51:40 AM
GOP = Gone Out Partying. cause come november 6, the party is over my friends. and its a sweet, sweet, feeling.
 
2012-09-30 11:53:14 AM

Brick-House: [img0.fark.net image 77x27] Really??? That's the source? I guessing they're having a collective thrill running down their legs. Hope it not piss.

/wet clean up isle 5.


What's the matter, can't disprove it?
 
2012-09-30 11:53:17 AM

Party Boy: machodonkeywrestler: It's not and was never presented as and excuse nor as a information that would make the GOP's voter fraud excusable. It's more just picking on the GOP's hypocrisy, not anything that anyone would use as a valid argument.

Looks like you need a definition of Tu Quoque.

Party Boy: Go on about how the "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but ACORN" argument is somehow not a Tu Quoque (a subset of a red herring)

Tu Quoque is a very common fallacy in which one attempts to defend oneself or another from criticism by turning the critique back against the accuser. This is a classic Red Herring since whether the accuser is guilty of the same, or a similar, wrong is irrelevant to the truth of the original charge. However, as a diversionary tactic, Tu Quoque can be very effective, since the accuser is put on the defensive, and frequently feels compelled to defend against the accusation.


And apparently you need lessons in reading comprehension. As I stated before, the intent is not to divert criticism or excuse, and to be a Tu Quoque, you need at least one or the other. It's not deflection, it's mockery.
 
2012-09-30 11:53:21 AM

machodonkeywrestler: misspelled


machodonkeywrestler: presented as and excuse


Don't go on the internet thinking being the grammar nazi is clever.

You don't understand red herrings. Stick a fork in this one.
 
2012-09-30 11:54:08 AM

machodonkeywrestler: intent is not to divert criticism or excuse


100% bullshiat.
 
2012-09-30 11:54:23 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"


Hey, farkstick. You're finally going in the plonk list. I've had you in Troll Grey 3 for what seems like forever, and there's literally one other person there. I kept you off for the same reason I keep most trolls visible -- I don't like Fark to be an echo chamber. But man, you're simply a one-trick pony. Come in, deliver a pointless one-liner (that's usually been utterly debunked), and then no further commitment to the thread except to continue reeling out line. This one finally did it. Bye. 

My apologies to anyone who has this idjit on ignore and had to deal with his stench in my reply. Trust me, it won't happen another time.
 
2012-09-30 11:55:11 AM

Teufelaffe: tenpoundsofcheese: actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left?

I know I'm wasting my time with this, but it's Sunday and I'm not really doing anything else so....

Got any reliable citations for this "actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left"?


You know, all those cartoon characters who showed up at the polls.
 
2012-09-30 11:55:35 AM

Party Boy: machodonkeywrestler: misspelled

machodonkeywrestler: presented as and excuse

Don't go on the internet thinking being the grammar nazi is clever.

You don't understand red herrings. Stick a fork in this one.


Wow, you are oblivious. But since you seem a bit dense, I will explain it to you.

Party Boy: machodonkeywrestler: inigomontoya.jpg

I'm bored. boring



Yes. Yes you are.
 
2012-09-30 11:56:11 AM

Party Boy: machodonkeywrestler: intent is not to divert criticism or excuse

100% bullshiat.


Like ACORN voter fraud?
 
2012-09-30 11:56:26 AM

Skleenar: The RNC's involvement with this character goes back years and looks to be pretty shady.

And it's more than just getting defrauded by their own employees with fake voter registrations:

Sproul got into a bit of trouble last fall when, in certain states, it came out that the firm was playing dirty tricks in order to suppress the Democratic vote: concealing their partisan agenda, tricking Democrats into registering as Republicans, surreptitiously re-registering Democrats and Independents as Republicans, and shredding Democratic registration forms.


And that's the really damning part, right there. That's the part the prevents people from voting.
 
2012-09-30 11:56:26 AM

Brick-House: [img0.fark.net image 77x27] Really??? That's the source? I guessing they're having a collective thrill running down their legs. Hope it not piss.

/wet clean up isle 5.


Of course, if you read TFA you would have seen it was sourced from a New York Times story. Although you'd probably attack the Times as being biased, too.

Fox News is the only fair and balanced source in the media, amiright?
 
2012-09-30 11:57:20 AM

Brick-House: That's the source?


New York Times, actually.
 
2012-09-30 11:57:24 AM

missiv: Doc Daneeka: If you ever want to know what funny business the GOP is up to, just look and see what they are accusing Democats and liberal groups of at any given moment.

This.
I loved the photo of Romney frightening a baby. Next day's headline was, GOP latest attack Is Pres. Obama Scares Babies.


This is the GOP's standard procedure.

Another example: the GOP has been running ads attacking Obama for supposedly trying to destroy Medicare. Reality: the Republican Party (led by the VP nominee) have and are actually trying to destroy Medicare.
 
2012-09-30 11:58:11 AM

machodonkeywrestler: Yes. Yes you are.


Jesus, this guy is debating like a 5 year old.

Whats next? The rubber and glue argument?
 
2012-09-30 11:58:48 AM
what happened to this site? The trolls arent even clever anymore.
 
2012-09-30 12:03:36 PM

Party Boy: what happened to this site? The trolls arent even clever anymore.


i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-30 12:04:31 PM

jso2897: Party Boy: what happened to this site? The trolls arent even clever anymore.

[i18.photobucket.com image 624x416]


Quality control is going way down.
 
2012-09-30 12:05:42 PM

Brick-House: [img0.fark.net image 77x27] Really??? That's the source? I guessing they're having a collective thrill running down their legs. Hope it not piss.

/wet clean up isle 5.


You'll notice that the byline of the article (which I'm sure you didn't bother to read...you just looked at the Fark tag and assumed) indicates that the source for the story is actually The New York Times. But don't let reality stop you, it's more fun for us to watch you make a fool of yourself.
 
2012-09-30 12:06:12 PM

Party Boy: jso2897: Party Boy: what happened to this site? The trolls arent even clever anymore.

[i18.photobucket.com image 624x416]

Quality control is going way down.


I can't help. I'm just a humble local earthquake inspector.
 
2012-09-30 12:06:55 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Of course, if you read TFA you would have seen it was sourced from a New York Times story. Although you'd probably attack the Times as being biased, too.

Fox News is the only fair and balanced source in the media, amiright?


Only the Party-approved media can tell the Truth, citizen.
 
2012-09-30 12:08:35 PM
Voter fraud should be a capital crime tied to RICO statutes. And those found to have masterminded voter fraud or vote suppression should be subject to the death penalty.

That will create some accountability.
 
2012-09-30 12:09:38 PM

jso2897: I can't help. I'm just a humble local earthquake inspector.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-30 12:30:57 PM

Tusz: This behavior is older than the GOP itself. You could probably trace a straight line back to the people whining about the election in 1824.


"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it"
 
2012-09-30 12:31:28 PM

Goodfella: Voter fraud should be a capital crime tied to RICO statutes. And those found to have masterminded voter fraud or vote suppression should be subject to the death penalty.

That will create some accountability.


"Masterminded"? Fark that, any willing involvement in rigging elections should warrant a firing squad.
 
2012-09-30 12:32:58 PM

Goodfella: Voter fraud should be a capital crime tied to RICO statutes. And those found to have masterminded voter fraud or vote suppression should be subject to the death penalty.

That will create some accountability


I think the death penalty is a bit much, but otherwise I like the way you're thinking.
 
2012-09-30 12:33:38 PM
This business of determining voter preference prior to registration is designed to reduce Democratic voter turnout. The new Republican laws have nothing to do with "voter fraud." They are designed to reduce Democratic voter turn out. Here's a review.

Florida. Obama won there by 236,450 votes. In the 2008 election, 54 percent of black voters in Florida voted early -- twice the rate for whites. 1.1 million blacks voted in Florida in 2008. Republican solution #1: Cut early voting and remove the Sunday before the Nov. 6, 2012 election as a voting day. On Sept. 24, a federal judge in Jacksonville ruled the state doesn't need to provide 96 hours of early voting in all counties for the election. That ruling is separate from a federal case in which Florida agreed to keep 96 hours of early voting in five counties covered by the Voting Rights Act. Chaos will ensue. Republican solution #2: Purge voter lists of hispanic names. "These last-minute purges of the kind he [Governor Rick Scott] has instituted create serious questions about the motives for these purges," Kasdan said.

Iowa. Obama won Iowa in 2008 by 146,651 votes. Republican solution: purge voter lists of hispanic names. However, the Republican-backed effort to purge voter registration rolls ended after a Sept. 14 legal decision. Iowa Secretary of State Matt Schultz (R) isn't going to appeal the ruling barring the state from using emergency-procedures to purge the rolls, said Chad Olsen, his spokesman. "Given the reality of the time constraints there wouldn't be any resolution before the election," Olsen said. "For this election, we're done."

Wisconsin. Obama won Wisconsin by 414,818 votes in 2008. Republican solution: require voter ID. However, the state's supreme court ruled voter turned down the ID law Sept. 27. Two lower-court judges found the new law unconstitutional in separate decisions earlier this year.

Pennsylvania. Obama won the state by 620,478 votes in 2008. Republican solution: require voter ID. A state analysis found Pennsylvania's photo ID requirement would exclude as many as 759,000 eligible voters, or 9 percent of its electorate, from voting in the 2008 presidential election. The state supreme court on Sept. 18 set aside a lower-court ruling upholding the voter ID law. However, in its 4-2 decision, the state supreme court asked Commonwealth Court Judge Richard Simpson, a Republican, to submit a so-called supplemental opinion by Oct. 2. Chaos will ensue.

Ohio. Obama won the state by 262,224 votes in 2008. Republican solution #1: disallow ballots filed in the wrong precinct because of poll-worker error. This only impacts urban polling stations where multiple precincts share the booths. Service union sued to stop the law. Judge Marbley, appointed by former President Bill Clinton, agreed with the service union and ordered such ballot disqualification stopped. The judge said that, as a matter of law, if a voter casts a ballot in the wrong precinct it's the fault of a poll worker, unless the voter deliberately refuses to go to the right polling place. Republicans have appealed the decision. Republican solution #2: Restrict early voting. A judge ruled that it was unconstitutional to take away three days of early voting for most citizens in the state while allowing Ohioans serving in the military to have them. The Republicans have appealed. The U.S. Court of Appeals agreed to expedite Ohio's appeal, though it has yet to schedule an argument. Early voting in Ohio begins Oct. 2. Chaos will ensue.

Link

Link
 
2012-09-30 12:36:01 PM
Prediction: Romney wins Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania despite polls leading up to election showing Obama up by more than margin of error.

Voter ID laws praised afterward by GOP. Fark servers melt down.
 
2012-09-30 12:36:09 PM
Every registration drive ever will have phony registration forms. Even if the workers are saints, you always get the guy who thinks it's funny to write fake information, or draw a picture of a penis for his address, or whatever. By law, it's a felony to not turn those forms in to the clerk. Your registration drive is not permitted to make judgment calls on which registrations are 'real' or 'fake', even in the blindingly obvious cases. At best you can separate them into another batch to help the clerk a bit, but once the form is written upon, it must be turned in to election officials without any exceptions.

Skleenar: Sproul got into a bit of trouble last fall when, in certain states, it came out that the firm was playing dirty tricks in order to suppress the Democratic vote: concealing their partisan agenda, tricking Democrats into registering as Republicans, surreptitiously re-registering Democrats and Independents as Republicans, and shredding Democratic registration forms.


This, on the other hand, is serious fraud. Up against the wall.
 
2012-09-30 12:38:01 PM
I like how there are only two conservative voices in the thread that coincedentally come one after the other. Like a shift change in hockey.
 
2012-09-30 12:40:58 PM

Sum Dum Gai: Your registration drive is not permitted to make judgment calls on which registrations are 'real' or 'fake', even in the blindingly obvious cases.


Which is a good thing, since even the "blindingly obvious cases" aren't always that clear cut. I worked for a company that canceled a customer's account because his name, "Donald Duck" and his city of residence, "Aneheim, CA", were obviously someone farking around...until he sent in copies of his driver's licence, SS card, and birth certificate. There is (or at least was 8 years ago) a guy named Donald Duck living in the same city as Disneyland.
 
2012-09-30 12:47:55 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Acorn



So it's an hour and a half later, and you still haven't defended trotting out something that never happened.

You're either stupid or a willful liar, you bring nothing of value to the discussions here, you're completely useless, you actively make the Fark politics tab a worse place just by showing up.

Your comments aren't worth reading. On the ignore list with you.
 
2012-09-30 12:50:14 PM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.

And Republicans are not good for this year.


With how they are now, they won't be good for many years to come.
 
2012-09-30 12:56:13 PM

NeverDrunk23: The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.

And Republicans are not good for this year.

With how they are now, they won't be good for many years to come.


The Rush Limbaugh demographic is not growing.
 
2012-09-30 12:57:20 PM

phaseolus: tenpoundsofcheese: Acorn

You're either stupid or a willful liar


Why "or?" This is America, where anything is possible. 120troyouncesofrottingcurd is stupid and a willful liar.
 
2012-09-30 01:01:46 PM

Delay: This business of determining voter preference prior to registration is designed to reduce Democratic voter turnout. The new Republican laws have nothing to do with "voter fraud." They are designed to reduce Democratic voter turn out. Here's a review.

Florida. Obama won there by 236,450 votes. In the 2008 election, 54 percent of black voters in Florida voted early -- twice the rate for whites. 1.1 million blacks voted in Florida in 2008. Republican solution #1: Cut early voting and remove the Sunday before the Nov. 6, 2012 election as a voting day. On Sept. 24, a federal judge in Jacksonville ruled the state doesn't need to provide 96 hours of early voting in all counties for the election. That ruling is separate from a federal case in which Florida agreed to keep 96 hours of early voting in five counties covered by the Voting Rights Act. Chaos will ensue. Republican solution #2: Purge voter lists of hispanic names. "These last-minute purges of the kind he [Governor Rick Scott] has instituted create serious questions about the motives for these purges," Kasdan said.

Iowa. Obama won Iowa in 2008 by 146,651 votes. Republican solution: purge voter lists of hispanic names. However, the Republican-backed effort to purge voter registration rolls ended after a Sept. 14 legal decision. Iowa Secretary of State Matt Schultz (R) isn't going to appeal the ruling barring the state from using emergency-procedures to purge the rolls, said Chad Olsen, his spokesman. "Given the reality of the time constraints there wouldn't be any resolution before the election," Olsen said. "For this election, we're done."

Wisconsin. Obama won Wisconsin by 414,818 votes in 2008. Republican solution: require voter ID. However, the state's supreme court ruled voter turned down the ID law Sept. 27. Two lower-court judges found the new law unconstitutional in separate decisions earlier this year.

Pennsylvania. Obama won the state by 620,478 votes in 2008. Republican solution: require voter ID. A s ...


Yet more evidence that Republicans are traitors. Farking unAmerican slime.

The sooner this obsolete dinosaur of a political party dies, the better. Once we get a liberal party to oppose the center-right Democrats, maybe this country can make some goddamn progress.
 
2012-09-30 01:02:08 PM
This really shouldn't come as a surprise.

We should have all learned by now that if the GOP is harping on some illicit or shameful activity then we should probably double check to make sure they aren't the ones engaging in said activity.

The GOP doth protest too much, methinks.
 
2012-09-30 01:02:55 PM

js34603: Prediction: Romney wins Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania despite polls leading up to election showing Obama up by more than margin of error.

Voter ID laws praised afterward by GOP. Fark servers melt down.


Very likely. See my post above yours. It could all come down to legal decisions coming in OH, FL and PA after October 2nd. Not just voter ID. Early voting is important to folks that work and rely on public transportation. Not the Romneys.
 
2012-09-30 01:03:16 PM

phaseolus: Your comments aren't worth reading. On the ignore list with you.


I'm smiling at this thread, lots of you are taking action. He's the ONLY person I have on ignore, and it was the best move I ever made. I still smile every time I see another one of his "contributions" I've been spared...
 
2012-09-30 01:06:59 PM
I had the chance to defend one of the local ACORN folks 4 years ago. This sounds like the flip side of the same coin. Made up names and phony registration cards in order to pad stats. The only difference I see is that the RNC has now cut ties with this group and that the DNC and local Dems went to the wall for ACORN.
 
2012-09-30 01:12:42 PM
The King of Florida voting Fraud...

imageshack.us
Link
 
2012-09-30 01:21:31 PM

Anderson's Pooper: I had the chance to defend one of the local ACORN folks 4 years ago. This sounds like the flip side of the same coin. Made up names and phony registration cards in order to pad stats. The only difference I see is that the RNC has now cut ties with this group and that the DNC and local Dems went to the wall for ACORN.


You are what's wrong with this country.
 
2012-09-30 01:23:09 PM

ghare: The Rush Limbaugh demographic is not growing.


Well, the demographic isn't growing...
 
2012-09-30 01:29:32 PM

Anderson's Pooper: I had the chance to defend one of the local ACORN folks 4 years ago. This sounds like the flip side of the same coin. Made up names and phony registration cards in order to pad stats. The only difference I see is that the RNC has now cut ties with this group and that the DNC and local Dems went to the wall for ACORN.


That's an odd way to spell "threw under the bus because of false allegations and a general lack of spine"
Keep telling those lies and farking that chicken though.
 
2012-09-30 01:37:54 PM

Anderson's Pooper: I had the chance to defend one of the local ACORN folks 4 years ago. This sounds like the flip side of the same coin. Made up names and phony registration cards in order to pad stats. The only difference I see is that the RNC has now cut ties with this group and that the DNC and local Dems went to the wall for ACORN.


Is that the only difference you see?

In Colorado, a young woman employed by Strategic Allied was shown on a video outside a store in Colorado Springs recently telling a potential voter that she wanted to register only Republicans and that she worked for the county clerk's office

The RNC fired them because they allowed themselves to get caught carrying out strategy.
 
2012-09-30 01:40:47 PM

jcooli09: The RNC fired them because they allowed themselves to get caught carrying out strategy strategery.


Sorry, pet-peeve
 
2012-09-30 01:49:50 PM

m2313: Anderson's Pooper: I had the chance to defend one of the local ACORN folks 4 years ago. This sounds like the flip side of the same coin. Made up names and phony registration cards in order to pad stats. The only difference I see is that the RNC has now cut ties with this group and that the DNC and local Dems went to the wall for ACORN.

That's an odd way to spell "threw under the bus because of false allegations and a general lack of spine"
Keep telling those lies and farking that chicken though.


That an organization with 40 years of good work in poor and minority neighborhoods could be destroyed in a matter of months by a smear campaign is appalling. Good job, Britebart and O'Keefe, I'm sure Jesus would be proud of you.

/ And FU too, congressional Democrats, for letting it happen.
 
2012-09-30 02:04:38 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: That an organization with 40 years of good work in poor and minority neighborhoods could be destroyed in a matter of months by a smear campaign is appalling. Good job, Britebart and O'Keefe, I'm sure Jesus would be proud of you.


Destruction is usually easier than creation.
But yeah I was/am pissed about that too.
 
2012-09-30 02:08:49 PM

Into the blue again: Into the blue again: Kurmudgeon: Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.

Perhaps, but don't ever forget the GOP has an amazing talent to skate by on all of it's corruption and malfeasance unpunished. There is a hardcore 25% who will vote for them no matter what and all it takes is a some folks from center plus a few Dems to vote for the right and the Republicans are back in power.
The GOP is never finished just like evil never disappears, it only hides for awhile then blossoms again.
/and again
//and again

$0%

Uggh... I fail

40%


Surprisingly, that actually isn't the case. What percentage supported Bush in January 2009? What percentage supported Nixon the day he resigned^wwas forced out? What percentage supported McCarthy until the end? All the same: 25-30%. I haven't been able to find a source, but I've heard it said that even Hoover's approval in 1932 was circa 25%.

I'd hazard to guess there's probably a similar bedrock under Dems, but I can't think of any recent examples of one digging themself into a deep enough hole to reach it.
 
2012-09-30 02:11:52 PM
I despise the Republican party with the energy from a 1000 fiery white hot suns.
 
2012-09-30 02:18:31 PM

erik-k: Into the blue again: Into the blue again: Kurmudgeon: Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.

Perhaps, but don't ever forget the GOP has an amazing talent to skate by on all of it's corruption and malfeasance unpunished. There is a hardcore 25% who will vote for them no matter what and all it takes is a some folks from center plus a few Dems to vote for the right and the Republicans are back in power.
The GOP is never finished just like evil never disappears, it only hides for awhile then blossoms again.
/and again
//and again

$0%

Uggh... I fail

40%

Surprisingly, that actually isn't the case. What percentage supported Bush in January 2009? What percentage supported Nixon the day he resigned^wwas forced out? What percentage supported McCarthy until the end? All the same: 25-30%. I haven't been able to find a source, but I've heard it said that even Hoover's approval in 1932 was circa 25%.

I'd hazard to guess there's probably a similar bedrock under Dems, but I can't think of any recent examples of one digging themself into a deep enough hole to reach it.


You're right about the Democrats, too.

Harry Truman, February 1952, 22%
Lyndon Johnson, August 1968, 35%
Jimmy Carter, June 1979, 28%

Source: Link
 
2012-09-30 02:23:51 PM
Submitting fake voter registrations should be a crime and be punished, but throwing out real people's registrations should be a federal crime and mean 10+ years in the box, no exceptions.
 
2012-09-30 02:41:21 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

disapproves

/hot
 
2012-09-30 02:53:46 PM

erik-k: Into the blue again: Into the blue again: Kurmudgeon: Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.

Perhaps, but don't ever forget the GOP has an amazing talent to skate by on all of it's corruption and malfeasance unpunished. There is a hardcore 25% who will vote for them no matter what and all it takes is a some folks from center plus a few Dems to vote for the right and the Republicans are back in power.
The GOP is never finished just like evil never disappears, it only hides for awhile then blossoms again.
/and again
//and again

$0%

Uggh... I fail

40%

Surprisingly, that actually isn't the case. What percentage supported Bush in January 2009? What percentage supported Nixon the day he resigned^wwas forced out? What percentage supported McCarthy until the end? All the same: 25-30%. I haven't been able to find a source, but I've heard it said that even Hoover's approval in 1932 was circa 25%.

I'd hazard to guess there's probably a similar bedrock under Dems, but I can't think of any recent examples of one digging themself into a deep enough hole to reach it.


There's a theory among liberal bloggers about a 27% "crazification factor" that ends up being a floor for a candidate's support, however blatantly nuts they happen to be. Both parties have about 27% of the population who will vote for them no matter what. It's based on the 2004 Obama vs. Allen Keyes senate election.

"Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshiat crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That's crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population."

Link
 
2012-09-30 02:57:44 PM

Bontesla: This is not a good year for Republicans.


Yeah, the more they try to prove voter fraud exists, the more they prove THEY'RE the ones who have been doing it the whole time!
 
2012-09-30 03:00:40 PM

zetar: Just for the record: Obama volunteers who canvass to register voters (and sign people up for Vote By Mail) are not paid.

I live in Iowa. Yesterday, 27 people drove in from Chicago (at their own expense) to come to our house (we made chili, pie, cake... hey, we're Iowans!) and they canvassed our neighborhood for Obama. More than 119,000 Democrats had sent requests for ballots, compared with 25,000 Republicans.


Freedom isn't free, and obviously the moocher class realizes this.
 
2012-09-30 03:15:57 PM

Teufelaffe: tenpoundsofcheese: actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left?

I know I'm wasting my time with this, but it's Sunday and I'm not really doing anything else so....

Got any reliable citations for this "actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left"?


You're the reason we can't have nice things.

Tenpounds? Really?
 
2012-09-30 03:44:03 PM

Teufelaffe: tenpoundsofcheese: actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left?

I know I'm wasting my time with this, but it's Sunday and I'm not really doing anything else so....

Got any reliable citations for this "actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left"?


Bwahahahahhaaha. Did someone actually say that?

letmelaughevenharder.jpg
 
2012-09-30 03:46:54 PM

Brick-House: [img0.fark.net image 77x27] Really??? That's the source? I guessing they're having a collective thrill running down their legs. Hope it not piss.

/wet clean up isle 5.


And they've discovered a whole TEN 'suspicious' forms. OMG!!!!!

Ten false forms is the hourly requirement for each and every ACORN worker.
 
2012-09-30 04:05:04 PM

shotglasss: Brick-House: [img0.fark.net image 77x27] Really??? That's the source? I guessing they're having a collective thrill running down their legs. Hope it not piss.

/wet clean up isle 5.

And they've discovered a whole TEN 'suspicious' forms. OMG!!!!!

Ten false forms is the hourly requirement for each and every ACORN worker.


Is it just me or have the trolls just become THAT tired and cliched? 

But..but...ACORN. Shouldn't surprise me that they're willing to excuse what this GOP firm did even though it was the same freaking thing that ACORN was crucified for.
 
2012-09-30 04:10:49 PM

shotglasss: Teufelaffe: tenpoundsofcheese: actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left?

I know I'm wasting my time with this, but it's Sunday and I'm not really doing anything else so....

Got any reliable citations for this "actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left"?

Bwahahahahhaaha. Did someone actually say that?

letmelaughevenharder.jpg


Ah, so you don't in fact have any reliable citations.
 
2012-09-30 04:12:26 PM

Gyrfalcon: shotglasss: Teufelaffe: tenpoundsofcheese: actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left?

I know I'm wasting my time with this, but it's Sunday and I'm not really doing anything else so....

Got any reliable citations for this "actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left"?

Bwahahahahhaaha. Did someone actually say that?

letmelaughevenharder.jpg

Ah, so you don't in fact have any reliable citations.


It's what his heart believes. Which to him, is the best and most reputable citation of all.
 
2012-09-30 04:12:37 PM

shotglasss: Teufelaffe: tenpoundsofcheese: actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left?

I know I'm wasting my time with this, but it's Sunday and I'm not really doing anything else so....

Got any reliable citations for this "actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left"?

Bwahahahahhaaha. Did someone actually say that?

letmelaughevenharder.jpg


Yes, I did, and I extend the challenge to you. Got any citations for "actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left"?
 
2012-09-30 04:33:15 PM

92myrtle: I hope whoever's paying a few these trolls to spam here gives a damn about what little value for money they're getting out of it.


/ HIRE BETTER TROLLS PLS THX!


If Drew wants to throw money away on troll accounts, all I can think is he's now one of the 1%. NOBODY has money like that except them.
 
2012-09-30 05:10:45 PM
Only two of my flagged rednames show up to the thread and then only post a single short response each. Not much they can say, I suppose.

Look, we don't know the full details of the FL shenanigans yet, it might be nothing more than the ACORN-tpye activity where folks paid per voter they get to register took it upon themselves to pad their paychecks by registering Mickey Mouse. Thats fraud but its voter *registration* fraud not voter fraud, it doesn't mean much as the submitted registrations are flagged and held aside - Mickey Mouse did not get to vote in 2008.

Or it could be worse in FL's case, I'm getting the sense its more of an organized attempt to turn the voter registration fraud into full-blown voter fraud, or possibly use these bogus registrations to disenfranchise some number of democratic voters (sneaky bastards!) We don't know yet but we'll likely be hearing alot more in short order.
 
2012-09-30 05:31:24 PM
I should go ahead and elaborate, Acorn workers were not paid per voter registration but per hour. They did have a quota of minimum number of registrations per hour so the effect upon the worker was the same, some of them fraudulently felt the need to pad their totals to keep getting paid.

I don't think Acorn ever released the number of flagged registrations, the number I recall was about 10,000 and a quick googling shows that as the common guestimate. Acorn registered over one million voters in 2008 so that would be an error rate of less than 1%. Now and then you'll see people claim that Acorn won the election for Obama but he won by nine million votes, if 100% of Acorn registrations led to a 100% voter fraud rate it would have been off an order of magnitude necessary to meet that silly claim.

So far we know of somewhere between two dozen and 106 problematic registration forms. Thats in FL alone and its just the start of the investigation. We know this third party has been fired by the GOP in FL and NC so it'll be interesting to see if more bogus forms turn up, seems pretty likely there will be.

Unless something comes to light that there was GOP enticement to encourage the fraud this is ultimately going to be a pretty trivial issue, the bogus registrations are found and held aside, they're unlikely to have led to any actual voter fraud on election day. Trivial, just like Acorn. Whats going to be interesting is watching the rabid anti-acorn folks who suddenly become registration fraud apologists when it was "undermining the country" only 4 years ago.
 
2012-09-30 05:50:12 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: Unless something comes to light that there was GOP enticement to encourage the fraud this is ultimately going to be a pretty trivial issue, the bogus registrations are found and held aside, they're unlikely to have led to any actual voter fraud on election day. Trivial, just like Acorn. Whats going to be interesting is watching the rabid anti-acorn folks who suddenly become registration fraud apologists when it was "undermining the country" only 4 years ago.


Exactly the point, though - for the same triviality, Congress pushed everything from public appearances to bills of attainder, all to shame ACORN into ineffectiveness.

Let's see what Congress does with this one, shall we?
 
2012-09-30 06:19:01 PM

FormlessOne: the opposite of charity is justice: Unless something comes to light that there was GOP enticement to encourage the fraud this is ultimately going to be a pretty trivial issue, the bogus registrations are found and held aside, they're unlikely to have led to any actual voter fraud on election day. Trivial, just like Acorn. Whats going to be interesting is watching the rabid anti-acorn folks who suddenly become registration fraud apologists when it was "undermining the country" only 4 years ago.

Exactly the point, though - for the same triviality, Congress pushed everything from public appearances to bills of attainder, all to shame ACORN into ineffectiveness.

Let's see what Congress does with this one, shall we?


My bet is on "LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!"
 
2012-09-30 07:29:38 PM
GOP electoral fraud and voter suppression

UFO sightings are more common than voter fraud
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/voter-id-laws-charts-maps

GOP admits it wants to making it more difficult to vote
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/you-gotta-fight-for-yo u r-right-to-vote
http://www.freep.com/article/20120807/COL33/120807094/Stephen-Henders o n-A-lousy-feeling-on-Election-Day-thanks-to-Secretary-of-State-Ruth-Jo hnson-

4 GOP staffers indicted in "blatant and disgraceful" election fraud
http://politic365.com/2012/08/09/4-republican-staffers-indicted-for-b l atant-and-disgraceful-voter-fraud-in-michigan/

Proven GOP voter fraud. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/us/indiana-secretary-of-state-convic ted-in-voter-fraud-case.html?_r=1

More GOP fraud. This time in Massachusetts
http://www.wgbhnews.org/post/galvin-calls-voter-fraud-allegations-pre t ty-extreme

Columbus Ohio GOP Chair Opposes More Early Voting, Saying It Helps African-Americans
"I guess I really actually feel we shouldn't contort the voting process to accommodate the urban - read African-American - voter-turnout machine," said Doug Preisse, chairman of the county Republican Party and elections board member who voted against weekend hours, in an email to The Dispatch. "Let's be fair and reasonable."

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/08/19/fight-over-p o ll-hours-isnt-just-political.html
 
2012-09-30 07:52:00 PM
So, support voter ID.
 
2012-09-30 07:54:11 PM
Yay! checked my voter registration and was listed as inactive. So i go to the local voter precinct with DL, ssc and birth certificate. When asked what party, i responded with DEM. Suddenly i dont have the "right" documentation. Guess state issued drivers license, SSc and birth cert from a farkin Military hospital isnt "proper id"

/nuke the state and make it a parking lot for Disney world
/or not
 
2012-09-30 08:15:58 PM

Party Boy: what happened to this site? The trolls arent even clever anymore.


Conservatives are stupid farks, and so are the people pulling the strings and encouraging their presence.
 
2012-09-30 08:30:33 PM

ImpendingCynic: phaseolus: tenpoundsofcheese: Acorn

You're either stupid or a willful liar

Why "or?" This is America, where anything is possible. 120troyouncesofrottingcurd is stupid and a willful liar.


Can we stop feeding the troll? The ignore button doesn't do "comment about comment referring to comments"

/yet
//I'm hoping
 
2012-09-30 09:02:41 PM

Empty Matchbook: ImpendingCynic: phaseolus: tenpoundsofcheese: Acorn

You're either stupid or a willful liar

Why "or?" This is America, where anything is possible. 120troyouncesofrottingcurd is stupid and a willful liar.

Can we stop feeding the troll? The ignore button doesn't do "comment about comment referring to comments"

/yet
//I'm hoping


Suck it up. If you eliminated everyone talking about something that someone else said about a troll, you'd be speaking to an empty thread.
 
2012-09-30 09:07:03 PM
And here's where I make my usual voting fraud thread pitch. The Obama campaign is looking for lawyers and law students to be poll watchers on election day and during early voting to make sure everyone who is eligible to vote can do so. If you're a legal farker and haven't signed up yet, make sure to sign up to be a poll watcher to help minimize GOP shenanigans.
 
2012-09-30 11:07:15 PM
All the more reason to have voter ID.

And go back and look at the liberals defense of ACORN and either pick up your "huge hypocrite" sign, or admit that ACORN was and remains everything conservatives said it was.
 
2012-09-30 11:27:23 PM

randomjsa: All the more reason to have voter ID.

And go back and look at the liberals defense of ACORN and either pick up your "huge hypocrite" sign, or admit that ACORN was and remains everything conservatives said it was.


It's been asked of others to no avail, so maybe YOU have a citation or two... you know to defend the shiat you spew.
 
2012-10-01 12:32:51 AM

Skleenar: The RNC's involvement with this character goes back years and looks to be pretty shady.

And it's more than just getting defrauded by their own employees with fake voter registrations:

Sproul got into a bit of trouble last fall when, in certain states, it came out that the firm was playing dirty tricks in order to suppress the Democratic vote: concealing their partisan agenda, tricking Democrats into registering as Republicans, surreptitiously re-registering Democrats and Independents as Republicans, and shredding Democratic registration forms.


Holy Christ on a cracker! These are the fraudsters we need to be going after instead of wasting time and taxpayers' money passing more voter i.d. laws which do nothing to counter fraud!
 
2012-10-01 12:40:34 AM

Gyrfalcon: Empty Matchbook: ImpendingCynic: phaseolus: tenpoundsofcheese: Acorn

You're either stupid or a willful liar

Why "or?" This is America, where anything is possible. 120troyouncesofrottingcurd is stupid and a willful liar.

Can we stop feeding the troll? The ignore button doesn't do "comment about comment referring to comments"

/yet
//I'm hoping

Suck it up. If you eliminated everyone talking about something that someone else said about a troll, you'd be speaking to an empty thread.


I'd be OK with that. Seriously, FARK is getting to be a fairly difficult place in which to have an actual conversation without trolls and the folks who love them.
 
2012-10-01 12:41:17 AM

randomjsa: All the more reason to have voter ID.

And go back and look at the liberals defense of ACORN and either pick up your "huge hypocrite" sign, or admit that ACORN was and remains everything conservatives said it was.


ACORN did nothing wrong, they had some reps who made up fake registrations, and ACORN caught and reported these as required. That is a diametric opposite of this attempted election fraud, i n which a group hired by the GOP paid people per form (illegal in Florida), faked forms, allegedly threw away forms and instructed employees to refuse to take forms unless they were likely republicans. These forms were all submitted to be registered, none were reported by the group itself.

I know you wont read this because you are a trolling douche, but your idiotic lies need to be countered for other's sake.
 
2012-10-01 01:22:05 AM

sno man: randomjsa: All the more reason to have voter ID.

And go back and look at the liberals defense of ACORN and either pick up your "huge hypocrite" sign, or admit that ACORN was and remains everything conservatives said it was.

It's been asked of others to no avail, so maybe YOU have a citation or two... you know to defend the shiat you spew.


Nobody's come up with one yet; but unilke the rest, asking this question will not make this troll go away.
 
2012-10-01 01:44:29 AM

Gyrfalcon: Empty Matchbook: ImpendingCynic: phaseolus: tenpoundsofcheese: Acorn

You're either stupid or a willful liar

Why "or?" This is America, where anything is possible. 120troyouncesofrottingcurd is stupid and a willful liar.

Can we stop feeding the troll? The ignore button doesn't do "comment about comment referring to comments"

/yet
//I'm hoping

Suck it up. If you eliminated everyone talking about something that someone else said about a troll, you'd be speaking to an empty thread.



Well, I've never ignored anyone who I merely disagree with, it's when all they do is lie and then never engage anyone who actually has something to say. They're just here to raise cackles, threadjack and get attention. Hell tenpounds is probably a dyed in the wool Obama supporter and this is how he unwinds after a hard day.
 
2012-10-01 01:54:24 AM

dahmers love zombie: tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"

Hey, farkstick. You're finally going in the plonk list. I've had you in Troll Grey 3 for what seems like forever, and there's literally one other person there. I kept you off for the same reason I keep most trolls visible -- I don't like Fark to be an echo chamber. But man, you're simply a one-trick pony. Come in, deliver a pointless one-liner (that's usually been utterly debunked), and then no further commitment to the thread except to continue reeling out line. This one finally did it. Bye. 

My apologies to anyone who has this idjit on ignore and had to deal with his stench in my reply. Trust me, it won't happen another time.



Thank you, Dahmer, I will follow your lead and put the troll on ignore. . I kept the cretin off ignore when he or she made sense, but now it's just vomiting Limbaugh's excrement.
 
2012-10-01 02:01:47 AM

I_Hate_Iowa: tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"

Goodbye forever.


Same here. Time to ignore the moldy cheese.
 
2012-10-01 04:17:12 AM

Kevin72: I_Hate_Iowa: tenpoundsofcheese: suspicious forms from the GOP? "OMG!?
actual voter fraud from Acorn and the left? "Stop being racist and disenfranchising people"

Goodbye forever.

Same here. Time to ignore the moldy cheese.


I did that long ago. Took ten points off my blood pressure.
 
2012-10-01 04:35:57 AM

Doc Daneeka: If you ever want to know what funny business the GOP is up to, just look and see what they are accusing Democats and liberal groups of at any given moment.


Painfully correct post, this is. Were I to hear an accusation that a 'liberal' senator sucks goats, I'd instantly assume that the accuser has been sucking off goats in the middle of the night.

I don't like being right about this sort of thing, but they just keep handing me the evidence.
 
2012-10-01 04:47:48 AM

shotglasss: Brick-House: [img0.fark.net image 77x27] Really??? That's the source? I guessing they're having a collective thrill running down their legs. Hope it not piss.

/wet clean up isle 5.

And they've discovered a whole TEN 'suspicious' forms. OMG!!!!!

Ten false forms is the hourly requirement for each and every ACORN worker.


You're the reason for the headline's joke.
 
2012-10-01 05:19:42 AM

missiv: zetar: Just for the record: Obama volunteers who canvass to register voters (and sign people up for Vote By Mail) are not paid.

I live in Iowa. Yesterday, 27 people drove in from Chicago (at their own expense) to come to our house (we made chili, pie, cake... hey, we're Iowans!) and they canvassed our neighborhood for Obama. More than 119,000 Democrats had sent requests for ballots, compared with 25,000 Republicans.

Freedom isn't free, and obviously the moocher class realizes this.


i18.photobucket.com

Yes. Yes, they do.
 
2012-10-01 08:44:33 AM
Registration shenanigans wont be an issue IF voters are required to show ID to vote.. Maybe you fark libs should look into this.
 
2012-10-01 09:29:09 AM

I should be in the kitchen: Skleenar: The RNC's involvement with this character goes back years and looks to be pretty shady.

And it's more than just getting defrauded by their own employees with fake voter registrations:

Sproul got into a bit of trouble last fall when, in certain states, it came out that the firm was playing dirty tricks in order to suppress the Democratic vote: concealing their partisan agenda, tricking Democrats into registering as Republicans, surreptitiously re-registering Democrats and Independents as Republicans, and shredding Democratic registration forms.

Holy Christ on a cracker! These are the fraudsters we need to be going after instead of wasting time and taxpayers' money passing more voter i.d. laws which do nothing to counter fraud!


And they work for the Republicans, who've been pushing all those voter ID laws.

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
 
2012-10-01 10:41:26 AM
But Acorn what? If fraud is found, it should be rooted out in all parties.
 
2012-10-01 11:49:19 AM

pdee: Registration shenanigans wont be an issue IF voters are required to show ID to vote.. Maybe you fark libs should look into this.


Great, so that means you have a solution in place for providing IDs to those who don't have them, free of charge (otherwise it's a poll tax)? Don't forget, that likely means additional personnel to handle the work, thereby increasing the size of government, not to mention the extra cost. Or, you know, the GOP could stop committing voter registration fraud and stop trying to disenfranchise people they think will vote Democrat. Personally, I like the second option since it's cheaper and easier for everyone involved.
 
2012-10-01 11:50:51 AM

Teufelaffe: pdee: Registration shenanigans wont be an issue IF voters are required to show ID to vote.. Maybe you fark libs should look into this.

Great, so that means you have a solution in place for providing IDs to those who don't have them, free of charge (otherwise it's a poll tax)? Don't forget, that likely means additional personnel to handle the work, thereby increasing the size of government, not to mention the extra cost. Or, you know, the GOP could stop committing voter registration fraud and stop trying to disenfranchise people they think will vote Democrat. Personally, I like the second option since it's cheaper and easier for everyone involved.


Not to mention, all the ID in the world isn't going to help when you show up to the polls and get told you're not registered because these asshats shredded your form.
 
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