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(TwinCities.com)   For the first time in its 46 year history, the Int'l Chili Society is allowing beans in The World Chili Cook-off. Do not fear the winds of change, my friends   (twincities.com) divider line 180
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2012-09-30 10:00:33 AM  
Trader Joe's used to sell a chili under their name in a glass jar that was really good. They stopped selling it and I can't find it being sold by anyone else, anywhere. Anybody know who made that chili for TJ's? TIA
 
2012-09-30 10:00:40 AM  

ndeans: fark THAT NOISE!
The first commandment of chili states:
Thine chili shalt hath no beans.
The word of the Lord


Caelistis: You can tell the Yankees in this thread.


You can tell the Southerners in this thread because they get riled over BEANS, GODDAMN, TAKE A DEEP BREATH, CUPCAKES
 
2012-09-30 10:01:01 AM  
I make my chili both ways, depending on mood. I also vary my spices and liquids, roasted veggies or not, sofrito to start it maybe or maybe not. Chili, for me at least, is an experimental dish, my favorite kind of cooking.

The last time I made chili (last winter, it is still pretty warm here) I started with a beef brisket, chose my spices, did a dry rub on the brisket with some of the spices and smoked it for 5 or 6 hours. Then I got with the chili making. It took me all day, but it's all "hands off" stuff, so it was merely time consuming rather than difficult. It was also delicious topped with a bit of sharp cheddar, some cubed avocado, a bit of diced red onion and served with a rich, cheese and chile flavored cornbread. I hope I can remember what proportion of spices I used last winter as I think that was my favorite chili I've made so far.
 
2012-09-30 10:01:29 AM  
No beens. Its called "Chili", not "Beens" and those are what poors and vegetarians have to eat.
 
2012-09-30 10:03:26 AM  
As someone who is recovering from a chili cookoff over the weekend, I am getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2012-09-30 10:03:43 AM  
When the lighting in the kitchen is not adequate, ground cinnamon looks a lot like ground cumin sitting in the spice rack. Thus my first batch of cinnamon chili was born. It smelled as bad as one would imagine. I ate two bowls of it just to make sure it wasn't the next great thing in culinary creations. It wasn't.
 
2012-09-30 10:04:46 AM  

Gulper Eel: I drop a turkey neck in mine just to have something unpleasant-looking protruding from the chili as it cooks.


That's hilarious and disgusting. Troll on!
 
2012-09-30 10:04:48 AM  

vudukungfu: Then it got weird. Chocolate chips and beer weird.


I saute peppers and onions for my chili and then deglaze the pan with pale ale, and then near the end of the cooking I add a bit of dutch-processed cocoa powder to give it a sort of mole flavor. Everyone that tries it loves it.
 
2012-09-30 10:09:02 AM  

davidphogan: What's the point of chili without beans?


It shows that you're a damn Texan, which ironically, is something Texans are proud of..
 
2012-09-30 10:10:43 AM  
I find the lack of recipes in this thread very disturbing.
 
2012-09-30 10:11:39 AM  

nburghmatt: chili without beans is only good for piling onto a hot dog.


That's not chili. That's Coney Island Sauce.

Coney Island Sauce is not chili. Chili is not Coney Island Sauce. They are totally different things used for totally different purposes.
 
2012-09-30 10:14:26 AM  
What the judges might look like:

www.fart-sounds.net 



And sound like...
 
2012-09-30 10:22:09 AM  
Change? I blame Obama for this one.

There are certain known facts in life like the designated hitter rule is an abomination, figure skating is not a "sport" (requires athletic ability but so does ball room dancing), men should not wear speedos or drive electric/smart cars, Kanas City really does not know good BBQ, .45 is superior to 9mm, Chicago deep dish pizza is really just dough pie, the Dallas Cowboys need a new owner, a blow job is sex and chili does not have beans.
 
2012-09-30 10:23:52 AM  
I dislike beans greatly, so I like the idea of no beans in chili.
 
2012-09-30 10:34:59 AM  

TheYeti: Beans, no beans,whatever.

As long as it's not Cincinnati-style with the cinnamon or chocolate or whatever the fark they put in it.


Beans or no beans, makes no difference to me. Chili is chili and good is good.

/and, as one of the tiny minority on Fark who like Cincinnati chili, I'll be the first to admit that it is not actually chili
 
2012-09-30 10:37:19 AM  
A chili thread, yeah!
i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-30 10:40:43 AM  
I preferred my chili with beans, but after 13 years in Texas, I've sort of forgotten what it's like.
 
2012-09-30 10:40:45 AM  

kwame: Benjimin_Dover: What is the point of a contest of chili makers if they have to use the exact same list of ingredients? Are they competing on who can come up with the best proportions of those ingredients?

The number of different chiles you can use for the seasoning alone makes a world of difference. I use a blend of toasted chiles, and you can absolutely tell a difference in flavors if I use 2 ancho or 3 guajillo or whatever.


This. Cookoff-quality chili is as varied as you can possibly imagine. And it's waaaay too good to use as a hot dog topping.

/Chili w/beans - for the home
//Chili w/o beans - FTW
 
2012-09-30 10:45:06 AM  
farm9.staticflickr.com


Don't know where I found this, (photoshop contest?) but I've been waiting a long time to use it. Thank you, owner/artist!
 
2012-09-30 10:45:26 AM  

doglover: In Texas, they like to INSIST that you don't use beans in the chili. But then they use beef instead. Might as well add skittles at that point of authenticity.


Can't do that. It's Texas, remember? When you send your houseboy out for skittles your neighbour will probably feel threatened and shoot him, and then who's going to clean the toilets afterwards, eh?
 
WD
2012-09-30 10:45:49 AM  
This thread reminds me that Texas is a strange country.
 
2012-09-30 10:50:40 AM  

ciberido: nburghmatt: chili without beans is only good for piling onto a hot dog.

That's not chili. That's Coney Island Sauce.

Coney Island Sauce is not chili. Chili is not Coney Island Sauce. They are totally different things used for totally different purposes.


well i don't know how they do it in Coney Island but around here it's beanless chili. in cheaper joints it comes straight out of a Hormel can.
 
2012-09-30 10:56:35 AM  

Caelistis: Good chili also needs a pone of cornbread


A pone, you say....
 
2012-09-30 10:56:40 AM  
Chili is good stuff. I usually use pintos and dark red kidneys in my chili. Assorted chilis. And a bottle of beer - adds that extra bit of flavor.

i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-09-30 10:59:24 AM  
www.mysafetylabels.com
 
2012-09-30 11:01:24 AM  
I didn't know that Cinncinati had chili parlors. And who the fark puts chocolate in chili?
 
2012-09-30 11:04:18 AM  
And another society bites the dust.
 
2012-09-30 11:04:22 AM  

Gleeman: marius2: Cinci chili is great, but I make my own style.


1 can tomato soup
1 can kidney beans (drain the liquid first)
1 box of pasta
1 tea spoon of chili powder.

Easy peasy drunk food.

Do you cook the pasta separate, or all together?


That sounds horrible
 
2012-09-30 11:06:20 AM  

fzumrk: A chili thread, yeah!
[i50.tinypic.com image 369x252]


Yes a Chili thread, not whatever that is.
 
2012-09-30 11:09:02 AM  
For the record, the Coney Dog was invented in Michigan (not Coney Island, though that's what they called it). Coney dogs and chili dogs are two different things. A chili dog is a hot dog with (usually) beanless chili on it. A coney dog is a hot dog with a sweet, tomato-based meat sauce/paste on it.

Coney sauce should be slightly sweet, slightly tangy, and have no extra stuff in it: Finely-ground beef, tomato sauce, molasses or brown sugar, and MAYBE refried bean paste for thickness is the most common base recipe. Onions are added AFTERWARD, on top of the sauce. No sense in putting onions in the sauce when you're going to put onions on your coney dog. Good coney sauce should be a runny paste.

Chili dogs are quite simple: Make chili without beans, pour it on top of your hot dog.

People outside of Michigan get all confused, thinking they're both the same thing. THEY ARE NOT. Good coney dogs have a sweetness that counters the brine & salt of the hot dog (which should probably be a Koegel frankfurter with the skin on).
 
2012-09-30 11:10:06 AM  
Correction: Good coney sauce should be a runny-yet-chunky paste. The meat should be discernible.
 
2012-09-30 11:11:17 AM  

lelio: I didn't know that Cinncinati had chili parlors. And who the fark puts chocolate in chili?


I put cocoa (unsweetened baker's cocoa, that is) in it. Just a little. It gives it a little oomph. The Aztecs were all about mixing cocoa and hot peppers.
 
2012-09-30 11:13:28 AM  
I'm indifferent about beans, but there is nothing worse than ground beef based chili. Stop it. Ground beef is the worst starting point for chili.
 
2012-09-30 11:26:37 AM  
unrealitymag.com
 
2012-09-30 11:27:31 AM  
www.artstormfineart.com
 
2012-09-30 11:31:39 AM  
Cinncinnati chile is an abomination that deserves to be scoured from the face of the earth with nuclear fire.

Whole dried toasted chiles in whatever combo you desire, regular select grade chuck cubed into 1/2" pieces, a few diced sauteed yellow onions (or just a jar of Pico De Gallo), some tomato paste,50/50 beer and beef stock and beans (Kidney or Pinto please, and don't drain or rinse 'em) if you like them. Brown the beef (cast iron dutch oven), remove it and sautee the veg, deglaze,toss everything (not the beans) back in, throw that bad boy in the oven at 300 for a few hours, add the beans, adjust the salt and the heat and you're done.
 
2012-09-30 11:39:16 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: [www.artstormfineart.com image 600x313]


Came for this, leaving satisfied

/Marge, we're missing the chili cookoff!!!!
 
2012-09-30 11:43:02 AM  
Once I was making chili (simple chili: beef, cans of chili beans, tomato juice, spices) and I noticed there was a lone Bud Light in the fridge. I was sure as shiat not going to drink it, so I decided to pour almost the whole thing into my chili. The carbonation I guess did something awesome to the chili and it tasted amazing. I've been meaning to try it out again, especially since cold weather is coming.
 
2012-09-30 11:43:55 AM  
Kind of shocked here.

Living in the midwest most of my life I though chili meant blandish bean soup.

I didn't know it was originally spicy meat stew, which might be tasty.
 
2012-09-30 11:45:14 AM  
Chili Should have beans.

We tend to use black beans, butter beans, and (duh) chilli beans (which are actually just spiced pintos.

Also, here in Wisconsin we tend to also pour our chili over macaroni noodles. This is because we need something to hold up all that cheese and sour cream that we use as our chili condiments. 

It's Wisconsin, we have to add dairy to everything.
 
2012-09-30 11:45:41 AM  
I always pour a half can of beer in chili while cooking. That and the whiskey in the piri-piri adds an interesting flavor.
 
2012-09-30 11:47:36 AM  
asscorethethird
Chili Should have beans.
We tend to use black beans, butter beans, and (duh) chilli beans (which are actually just spiced pintos.
Also, here in Wisconsin we tend to also pour our chili over macaroni noodles. This is because we need something to hold up all that cheese and sour cream that we use as our chili condiments.
It's Wisconsin, we have to add dairy to everything.


Yes, because everything in the midwest needs to be covered in some sort of dairy based goo.

/Don't drown your food...
 
2012-09-30 11:47:51 AM  
Chili. Home = Beans. Competition = No Beans. Never Ground Beef.

Real Competition is in Terlingua, Texas. CASI

My brother is headed for his ~20th year~. I get his leftover spices every year. Most come from Pendery's.
 
2012-09-30 11:48:39 AM  

Enemabag Jones: Kind of shocked here.

Living in the midwest most of my life I though chili meant blandish bean soup.

I didn't know it was originally spicy meat stew, which might be tasty.


That is so sad.
 
2012-09-30 11:52:13 AM  
Cyno's Chili:

2lb ground chuck (already browned and drained), a piece of roast cubed and pulsed a few times in the food processor is preferred, but store ground is ok
large onion, diced, and
2 cloves of garlic, smashed,
cooked in a roux of equal parts butter, olive oil and bacon grease, maybe half a tablespoon of each
can of petite diced tomatoes with chilis,
can of red kidney beans, undrained,
can of black beans, undrained,
can of chili beans, undrained,
a bean can worth of frozen corn,
about a cup of salsa...

Seasonings;
heaping tablespoon of penzeys chili 3000
heaping tablespoon of penzeys chili 9000
maybe half a tspn fresh ground black pepper,
maybe half a tspn fresh ground cumin,
half a tspn of chipotle powder,
some coriander,
tspn of honey,
cilantro (dried or fresh, more if fresh),
maybe a tablespoon of franks chili & lime hot sauce,
maybe a tspn of sriracha,
maybe a half teaspoon soy sauce
about half a teaspoon brown mustard
splash of worcestershire
splash of liquid smoke
pinch of coco powder
and just a whisper of cinnamon.

Bring to a boil, simmer as low as possible for at least 6 hours. Enjoy however you want, saltines, cheese, sour cream, whatever.

May not be chili for purists, but its pretty fantastic. .
 
2012-09-30 11:52:22 AM  
So its a bean cook off? Are they having the Chili cook off somewhere else? Did they remember to change the name? DNRTA.

/if you add beans, you are now making beans. Blows yer mind doesnt it?
 
2012-09-30 11:52:43 AM  

lelio: I didn't know that Cinncinati had chili parlors. And who the fark puts chocolate in chili?


Just a wee little bit of cocoa powder adds a nice bit of color and flavor. Cincinnati does have chili places, and you should avoid them like the plague, especially Skyline Chili.
 
2012-09-30 11:53:44 AM  
About a pound, maybe more, of medium ground beef, browned. Not drained. Keep the damn fat! It's good for you and it tastes good! Simmer with about half a dozen large, peeled, cored, chopped tomatoes. Chopped onion, zucchini, and a small can of kernel corn, drained. None of the creamed corn stuff. Two large cans of drained red kidney beans, and a can of black beans, also drained. One small can of tomato paste. Season with chili powder, cumin, salt and pepper, and red pepper flakes. Simmer if all for a few hours.

I like mine topped with some chopped green onion, chopped olives, shredded jack cheese, and maybe a spoonful of sour cream, if I'm feeling decadent.
 
2012-09-30 11:55:39 AM  

Phaeon: Once I was making chili (simple chili: beef, cans of chili beans, tomato juice, spices) and I noticed there was a lone Bud Light in the fridge. I was sure as shiat not going to drink it, so I decided to pour almost the whole thing into my chili. The carbonation I guess did something awesome to the chili and it tasted amazing. I've been meaning to try it out again, especially since cold weather is coming.


While not an actual recipe, I will complement you on the progress to that area is some fashion.

/recipes, they are what's for dinner
 
2012-09-30 12:05:04 PM  
"Chili with beans" makes as much sense as "kosher ham."
 
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