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(Eater)   Anthony Bourdain goes on O&A show, dubs Guy Fieri's Times Square restaurant a terror-dome. "All of these poor bastards see him eating cheap food on TV, they go in there and it's what $18? For a farking hamburger? The french fries are like $12?"   (eater.com) divider line 161
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2012-09-29 06:03:30 PM
Its rock n' roll!  Want a burger.... throw some Jack in it!
 
I love Jim Norton.
 
2012-09-29 06:20:39 PM
Those comments are on point money all the way to Flavortown!
 
2012-09-29 06:56:23 PM
Guy Fieri has proven that it is indeed possible to make a good living as a professional douchenozzle.
 
2012-09-29 07:08:08 PM
I feel my grip on culture is slip sliding away. When did that happen?
 
2012-09-29 07:09:05 PM
I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"... which Guy Fieri is not. Dude never went to culinary school, he's just a business owner who happens to know how to cook a few things.
 
2012-09-29 07:16:33 PM
America, f--k yeah.

2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"... which Guy Fieri is not. Dude never went to culinary school, he's just a business owner who happens to know how to cook a few things.


True, true.

That said, my aunt was on Fieri's DDD show. Good for publicity, so I know the owner was cool with it, but IIRC in the whole "how do you make this" section she (the owner) looks like she's going to stab or biatch slap Fieri the entire time. Which... was kinda awesome.

But that said, Bourdain, nothing you're gonna say is gonna change the fact that tourists will flock to the place. So... give it up for your blood pressure if nothing else. You can't save everyone.
 
2012-09-29 07:16:44 PM

2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"... which Guy Fieri is not. Dude never went to culinary school, he's just a business owner who happens to know how to cook a few things.


And style his hair.
 
2012-09-29 07:19:58 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: America, f--k yeah.

2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"... which Guy Fieri is not. Dude never went to culinary school, he's just a business owner who happens to know how to cook a few things.

True, true.

That said, my aunt was on Fieri's DDD show. Good for publicity, so I know the owner was cool with it, but IIRC in the whole "how do you make this" section she (the owner) looks like she's going to stab or biatch slap Fieri the entire time. Which... was kinda awesome.

But that said, Bourdain, nothing you're gonna say is gonna change the fact that tourists will flock to the place. So... give it up for your blood pressure if nothing else. You can't save everyone.


The fact that ESPN Zone is still in business is solid evidence of this. Decent enough food, but my god, the prices.
 
2012-09-29 07:21:06 PM
The only time I ever see Guy Fieri is at the gym, of all places. Someone will be on the treadmill watching him make duck lips after stuffing pulled pork in his maw, Oakleys hanging off the back of his head for that extra douchey look. How does THAT motivate you to burn calories?
 
2012-09-29 07:21:28 PM

2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"... which Guy Fieri is not. Dude never went to culinary school, he's just a business owner who happens to know how to cook a few things.


I worked security at one of his live demos. He didnt really cook anything. He just told stories, acted like he was drinking alcohol, and would shake the skillets over the burners from time to time. His lackeys did all the real work. He seemed like a nice guy, but he had a terrible cold and wasn't really at intensity level 10 like usual, so that ,may have had something to do with it.
 
2012-09-29 07:30:30 PM
went to two of his D,D&D places here in Seattle - both overpriced and meh. the third went belly up last year.

Mike's Chili Parlor < can of Stagg Red Hot
 
2012-09-29 07:34:42 PM
How did it take me this long to realize that AB could be Anthony Bourdain or Alton Brown?
 
2012-09-29 07:34:52 PM

Arachnophobe: The fact that ESPN Zone is still in business is solid evidence of this.


Actually that went belly up a few years ago when the rest of the economy was tanking.
 
2012-09-29 07:36:48 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: But that said, Bourdain, nothing you're gonna say is gonna change the fact that tourists will flock to the place. So... give it up for your blood pressure if nothing else. You can't save everyone.


I always get a kick out of the Olive Garden/Red Lobster commercials because they always have a disclaimer that says that the deals they advertise on TV are not valid in Hawaii and Times Square.

So you know they're ripping people off for the same food they can get back home.
 
2012-09-29 07:37:14 PM

2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"


Ummm, isn't Bourdain exactly that?
 
2012-09-29 07:38:36 PM
Everything about that story screams douche.

Bourdain- douche.
Fieri- douche.
Opie and Anthony- douches.
Anyone who likes any of these people- douche.
 
2012-09-29 07:39:31 PM

Hebalo: 2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"

Ummm, isn't Bourdain exactly that?


Well, *I*'ve never seen him even just boil water. He's a great writer and fun commentator. Chef? Dunno.
 
2012-09-29 07:41:24 PM

Buttle not Tuttle: The only time I ever see Guy Fieri is at the gym, of all places. Someone will be on the treadmill watching him make duck lips after stuffing pulled pork in his maw, Oakleys hanging off the back of his head for that extra douchey look. How does THAT motivate you to burn calories?


Rage is a powerful motivator.
 
2012-09-29 07:41:45 PM

Buttle not Tuttle: The only time I ever see Guy Fieri is at the gym, of all places. Someone will be on the treadmill watching him make duck lips after stuffing pulled pork in his maw, Oakleys hanging off the back of his head for that extra douchey look. How does THAT motivate you to burn calories?


Are you kidding? Negative reinforcement, a la "If I don't work out, I'll end up looking like THAT".
 
2012-09-29 07:41:53 PM

Mrtraveler01: Arachnophobe: The fact that ESPN Zone is still in business is solid evidence of this.

Actually that went belly up a few years ago when the rest of the economy was tanking.


Not True, still one going strong in Vegas.

2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"... which Guy Fieri is not. Dude never went to culinary school, he's just a business owner who happens to know how to cook a few things.


Again, not true. He went to the cooking school at UNLV, a place he actual visits during one of the shows.

Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.
 
2012-09-29 07:41:54 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Well, *I*'ve never seen him even just boil water. He's a great writer and fun commentator. Chef? Dunno.


Bourdain's the first to admit he's not half the chef the real big guns are. He knows he spent his life in middling-to-awful turn-and-burn joints. He knows he's around on the strength of his writing.
 
2012-09-29 07:42:08 PM
Aren't these usual new york tourist zone prices anyways?

2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"... which Guy Fieri is not. Dude never went to culinary school, he's just a business owner who happens to know how to cook a few things.


a great deal of the best cooks I know never went to culinary school either. of course, it must be mentioned that the old joke about the difference between a chef and a cook is that a chef doesn't wash his own dishes.

with all that said, I don't mind his travel shows, could never get behind his cooking shows, and Mr. California bro there, in one of his cook books DARED to insult my beloved Chesapeake Blue crab, stating that the cold water west coast Spider like crabs were Superior in every way.

now, I do enjoy me some spider, king and dungenous, to out right say that those crabs were Superior to the Chesapeake blue, was just disingenuous and arrogant.

I know, it's a silly thing to get worked up about, when those reverse skull sunglasses are just begging to be slapped off his noggin.

otherwise? I actually don't have an issue with the guy.. he's a "personality" being a cooking douche is his job.
 
2012-09-29 07:43:09 PM

Bigedmond: Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.


He's off the Travel Channel because CNN snapped him up to do essentially No Reservations: CNN Edition.
 
2012-09-29 07:45:34 PM
and when I said "the guy" I didn't meen to use his name as a tittle. just a descriptor.
 
2012-09-29 07:46:34 PM
Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.

He flip flopped on Emeril. Did Emeril have an insufferable shtick? God yes. Is he an exemplary chef? God yes. Hating a man in your field based on his persona and not his food is a douchetastic thing to do, especially when Bourdain's persona is some kind of faux tough guy douche who wears leather in hundred degree heat just to look "bad ass."
 
2012-09-29 07:50:08 PM
My buddy and I have a standing agreement that should one of us ever run into Fieri on the street, we are to administer a complete ass kicking and the other will be good for bail money and a ride home from jail.
 
2012-09-29 07:52:03 PM

Mrtraveler01: Arachnophobe: The fact that ESPN Zone is still in business is solid evidence of this.

Actually that went belly up a few years ago when the rest of the economy was tanking.


Huh. I could have sworn I saw it when I was downtown a couple weeks back. But you're right, the website only lists Anaheim and Los Angeles, no sign of the Times Square one. And it's been two years since it closed, apparently. Shows how much attention I pay to Times Square when I'm down there.
 
2012-09-29 07:56:09 PM

drewogatory: My buddy and I have a standing agreement that should one of us ever run into Fieri on the street, we are to administer a complete ass kicking and the other will be good for bail money and a ride home from jail.


So you and your "buddy" have conversations about beating up chefs? NTTIAWWT
 
2012-09-29 07:56:36 PM

hulk hogan meat shoes: Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.

He flip flopped on Emeril. Did Emeril have an insufferable shtick? God yes. Is he an exemplary chef? God yes. Hating a man in your field based on his persona and not his food is a douchetastic thing to do, especially when Bourdain's persona is some kind of faux tough guy douche who wears leather in hundred degree heat just to look "bad ass."


A few years back, my buddy was working a charity event the Emeril was also working at. His (my friend) boss told Emeril he wasn't shiat right to his face. Its kitchen culture. Tony will biatch about someone and others will biatch about Tony. Its very much like sports in that aspect.
 
2012-09-29 08:00:39 PM
I met Guy at 5 am at the Oakland Airport as he (and the production crew) was leaving to film. I said hello, and he was very nice and introduced me to the producer and a few of the other crew members.

I have eaten at both of his concepts, and enjoyed the food. Tex Wasabi's was more bar food, but it was really good bar food. At Johnny Garlics, the Buffalo Meat Loaf was really good.

There were little things I didn't like, but overall I would go back to eat there again.

If you haven't tried his food, you should. Have an informed opinion.

BTW, rent is expensive in NYC, so most every restaurant is expensive.
 
2012-09-29 08:01:07 PM

Onkel Buck: drewogatory: My buddy and I have a standing agreement that should one of us ever run into Fieri on the street, we are to administer a complete ass kicking and the other will be good for bail money and a ride home from jail.

So you and your "buddy" have conversations about beating up chefs? NTTIAWWT


Well, just Fieri so far. We had alot of time to sit and drink and watch daytime TV at the dead-during-the-day bar where we worked. I'm sure we had other plans for random assault and mayhem, although i can't recall exactly what they were now, except one involved Burning Man and tactical nuclear weapons.
 
2012-09-29 08:04:34 PM

hulk hogan meat shoes: Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.

He flip flopped on Emeril. Did Emeril have an insufferable shtick? God yes. Is he an exemplary chef? God yes. Hating a man in your field based on his persona and not his food is a douchetastic thing to do, especially when Bourdain's persona is some kind of faux tough guy douche who wears leather in hundred degree heat just to look "bad ass."


See, I don't really mind Emeril that much... yeah, dudes schtick, but, to me, he's like the last of the old school TV cooks. the kind of TV cook that was in place before the Personality people took over.
 
2012-09-29 08:05:28 PM

Arachnophobe: StreetlightInTheGhetto: America, f--k yeah.

2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"... which Guy Fieri is not. Dude never went to culinary school, he's just a business owner who happens to know how to cook a few things.

True, true.

That said, my aunt was on Fieri's DDD show. Good for publicity, so I know the owner was cool with it, but IIRC in the whole "how do you make this" section she (the owner) looks like she's going to stab or biatch slap Fieri the entire time. Which... was kinda awesome.

But that said, Bourdain, nothing you're gonna say is gonna change the fact that tourists will flock to the place. So... give it up for your blood pressure if nothing else. You can't save everyone.

The fact that ESPN Zone is still in business is solid evidence of this. Decent enough food, but my god, the prices.


The one in DC shut down. My management used to take people there as celebrations or last meals. I think management hated us.
 
2012-09-29 08:06:52 PM

revrendjim: Guy Fieri has proven that it is indeed possible to make a good living as a professional douchenozzle.


We didn't need him to prove that. We already had Opie & Anthony...
 
2012-09-29 08:08:41 PM

Cerebral Knievel: hulk hogan meat shoes: Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.

He flip flopped on Emeril. Did Emeril have an insufferable shtick? God yes. Is he an exemplary chef? God yes. Hating a man in your field based on his persona and not his food is a douchetastic thing to do, especially when Bourdain's persona is some kind of faux tough guy douche who wears leather in hundred degree heat just to look "bad ass."

See, I don't really mind Emeril that much... yeah, dudes schtick, but, to me, he's like the last of the old school TV cooks. the kind of TV cook that was in place before the Personality people took over.


PBS still has guys like that. Yan, Bayless, and Ming Tsai are all good chefs and good hosts without being idiots.
 
2012-09-29 08:09:04 PM
I'm pretty smart but I cannot comprehend subby's headline.
 
2012-09-29 08:10:30 PM

drewogatory: Onkel Buck: drewogatory: My buddy and I have a standing agreement that should one of us ever run into Fieri on the street, we are to administer a complete ass kicking and the other will be good for bail money and a ride home from jail.

So you and your "buddy" have conversations about beating up chefs? NTTIAWWT

Well, just Fieri so far. We had alot of time to sit and drink and watch daytime TV at the dead-during-the-day bar where we worked. I'm sure we had other plans for random assault and mayhem, although i can't recall exactly what they were now, except one involved Burning Man and tactical nuclear weapons.


You're a good egg Drewnan
 
2012-09-29 08:14:06 PM

hulk hogan meat shoes: Cerebral Knievel: hulk hogan meat shoes: Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.

He flip flopped on Emeril. Did Emeril have an insufferable shtick? God yes. Is he an exemplary chef? God yes. Hating a man in your field based on his persona and not his food is a douchetastic thing to do, especially when Bourdain's persona is some kind of faux tough guy douche who wears leather in hundred degree heat just to look "bad ass."

See, I don't really mind Emeril that much... yeah, dudes schtick, but, to me, he's like the last of the old school TV cooks. the kind of TV cook that was in place before the Personality people took over.

PBS still has guys like that. Yan, Bayless, and Ming Tsai are all good chefs and good hosts without being idiots.


His schtick are his aprons, but he can back it up. Loved watching his show.
 
2012-09-29 08:14:40 PM
I miss James Barber.
 
2012-09-29 08:15:05 PM
Bourdain has described about 90% of the GASTROPUBS that have opened up in Philly in the last five years. The formula seems to saddle a drink gimmick-of-the-minute list (100 BEERS ON TAP! WHISKEY LIKE MOST PEOPLE CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE! PROHIBITION-ERA COCKTAIL MENU!) with an "Americana" menu and unleash it on suckers willing to pay for tater tots and marginally higher-quality-than-a-fast-food-joint burgers that are LOCALLY SOURCED.
 
2012-09-29 08:15:59 PM

Infobahn: I met Guy at 5 am at the Oakland Airport as he (and the production crew) was leaving to film. I said hello, and he was very nice and introduced me to the producer and a few of the other crew members.

I have eaten at both of his concepts, and enjoyed the food. Tex Wasabi's was more bar food, but it was really good bar food. At Johnny Garlics, the Buffalo Meat Loaf was really good.

There were little things I didn't like, but overall I would go back to eat there again.

If you haven't tried his food, you should. Have an informed opinion.

BTW, rent is expensive in NYC, so most every restaurant is expensive.


Buffalo meatloaf sounds tasty. I wish it wasn't as expensive as it is. @$20/lb around here. Granted, I could track it to the source and prob. get it cheaper.
 
2012-09-29 08:17:08 PM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Bourdain has described about 90% of the GASTROPUBS that have opened up in Philly in the last five years. The formula seems to saddle a drink gimmick-of-the-minute list (100 BEERS ON TAP! WHISKEY LIKE MOST PEOPLE CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE! PROHIBITION-ERA COCKTAIL MENU!) with an "Americana" menu and unleash it on suckers willing to pay for tater tots and marginally higher-quality-than-a-fast-food-joint burgers that are LOCALLY SOURCED.


I worked at a place like that. 36 taps and half of them were undrinkable, high (some over 100) IBU IPAs because the bar manager was a trend whore. Food was good; the chef had a hard on for pickling though.
 
2012-09-29 08:25:06 PM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Bourdain has described about 90% of the GASTROPUBS that have opened up in Philly in the last five years. The formula seems to saddle a drink gimmick-of-the-minute list (100 BEERS ON TAP! WHISKEY LIKE MOST PEOPLE CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE! PROHIBITION-ERA COCKTAIL MENU!) with an "Americana" menu and unleash it on suckers willing to pay for tater tots and marginally higher-quality-than-a-fast-food-joint burgers that are LOCALLY SOURCED.


Depression era cocktails are actually really good, but then, I'm a fan of gin and bitters. Also, if you can't tell the difference between Maker's Mark and Woodford Reserve you're probably functionally retarded.
 
2012-09-29 08:26:41 PM
Jimmy's a sweet boy.

Jim Norton imitates Guy Fieri
 
2012-09-29 08:31:43 PM
Serves you right if you're going all the way to NYC and wind up eating in Times Square.

The burgers at Old Town Bar are decent enough, and you get to pee in 100-year-old urinals.
 
2012-09-29 08:34:28 PM

Mrtraveler01: StreetlightInTheGhetto: But that said, Bourdain, nothing you're gonna say is gonna change the fact that tourists will flock to the place. So... give it up for your blood pressure if nothing else. You can't save everyone.

I always get a kick out of the Olive Garden/Red Lobster commercials because they always have a disclaimer that says that the deals they advertise on TV are not valid in Hawaii and Times Square.

So you know they're ripping people off for the same food they can get back home.


Times Square is like the Whistler of Canada.
 
2012-09-29 08:50:05 PM
If you go to NYC and go to a chain restaurant, you're an idiot. You've got amazing food from street carts to ultradeluxe restaurants that you won't see in your home town. Free your gullet from TV chefs!
 
2012-09-29 08:59:23 PM
I went to Guy's Johnny Garlic a few nights ago for the very first time. The burger wasn't bad, but I would have preferred to go to Five Guys and spend less than half the amount for a far superior burger.
 
2012-09-29 09:01:45 PM
 
2012-09-29 09:02:04 PM

hulk hogan meat shoes: Cerebral Knievel: hulk hogan meat shoes: Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.

He flip flopped on Emeril. Did Emeril have an insufferable shtick? God yes. Is he an exemplary chef? God yes. Hating a man in your field based on his persona and not his food is a douchetastic thing to do, especially when Bourdain's persona is some kind of faux tough guy douche who wears leather in hundred degree heat just to look "bad ass."

See, I don't really mind Emeril that much... yeah, dudes schtick, but, to me, he's like the last of the old school TV cooks. the kind of TV cook that was in place before the Personality people took over.

PBS still has guys like that. Yan, Bayless, and Ming Tsai are all good chefs and good hosts without being idiots.


Jacques Pepin taught me to love peeled broccoli stalks and how to bone a chicken in two minutes--without dinner or a movie.
 
2012-09-29 09:02:48 PM

iron_city_ap: Infobahn: I met Guy at 5 am at the Oakland Airport as he (and the production crew) was leaving to film. I said hello, and he was very nice and introduced me to the producer and a few of the other crew members.

I have eaten at both of his concepts, and enjoyed the food. Tex Wasabi's was more bar food, but it was really good bar food. At Johnny Garlics, the Buffalo Meat Loaf was really good.

There were little things I didn't like, but overall I would go back to eat there again.

If you haven't tried his food, you should. Have an informed opinion.

BTW, rent is expensive in NYC, so most every restaurant is expensive.

Buffalo meatloaf sounds tasty. I wish it wasn't as expensive as it is. @$20/lb around here. Granted, I could track it to the source and prob. get it cheaper.


I like to make a meatloaf I call "my politically incorrect meatloaf.
50/50 ground bison and veal

buffalo is very dry, not a lot of fat, but has a nice rich flavor, so I add the veal to moisten it up so the Buffalo doesn't turn to dust when bake it.

the stuff is awesome!

the aforementioned blend of meats.

one whole egg per pound used,

two slices of stale bread per pound of meat, crusted and cubed, enough milk to saturate and soak

one whole medium onion, per pound of meat. peeled and run through the little holes on the stand grater to "juice and pulp" the onion.
Italion spices, and granulated garlic to taste. Italian spices, equal parts Oregano,, parsley, and ground bay. leaf. The usual.

squeeze out the milk soaked bread, throw the eggs in the meat with all the spices.

salt and pepper, to taste.

combine by hand, put in a loaf pan, and bake at 375 till done.


its all pretty much by feel. but meatloaf night at the summer camp I cooked at ( my last pro cooking gig ) was always well anticipated by everyone.
 
2012-09-29 09:08:00 PM

Cerebral Knievel: buffalo is very dry, not a lot of fat, but has a nice rich flavor,


The one time I had a buffalo burger it was so dry I could hardly eat it. It could have used a bit of bacon to moisten it up.
 
2012-09-29 09:08:13 PM
If it's not the Galloping Gourmet or the Frugal Gourmet or the crazy (now dead) chef from New O'lens then I don't want to hear about it.

/PBS FTW
 
2012-09-29 09:08:42 PM

OgreMagi: I went to Guy's Johnny Garlic a few nights ago for the very first time. The burger wasn't bad, but I would have preferred to go to Five Guys and spend less than half the amount for a far superior burger.


Every time the wife and I are down in Hacienda Crossings, we consider it. Then we say fark it, grab either Five Guys or Red Tractor and go home instead.
 
2012-09-29 09:12:12 PM
Guy is from my neck of the woods. I've met him a number of times at Johnny Garlic's and Tex Wasabi, even before he was TV's Guy Fierri. He's always been the dude you see on TV. Big, boisterous, but very personable. Maybe he doesn't remember names, but when/if I see him, he'll shake my hand and tell me he's glad to see me again.

Even if it's 100% bullsh*t, it's a damn good way to stay on someone's good side.
 
2012-09-29 09:19:57 PM
That's some pricey hamburger and fries. What are they cooked with? Truffles?
 
2012-09-29 09:23:33 PM

PsyLord: That's some pricey hamburger and fries. What are they cooked with? Truffles?


its cooked with a healthy dollop of NYC cost of living expenses and tourist money is all.
 
2012-09-29 09:24:32 PM
Justin Wilson! That was his name.
 
2012-09-29 09:33:25 PM

labbal: Justin Wilson! That was his name.


Hooboy!
 
2012-09-29 09:42:58 PM

McManus_brothers: labbal: Justin Wilson! That was his name.

Hooboy!


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2012-09-29 09:45:57 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Guy is from my neck of the woods. I've met him a number of times at Johnny Garlic's and Tex Wasabi, even before he was TV's Guy Fierri. He's always been the dude you see on TV. Big, boisterous, but very personable. Maybe he doesn't remember names, but when/if I see him, he'll shake my hand and tell me he's glad to see me again.

Even if it's 100% bullsh*t, it's a damn good way to stay on someone's good side.


Sounds better than Ron Swanson's approach to people:

"When people get a little too chummy with me I like to call them by the wrong name to let them know I don't really care about them."
 
2012-09-29 09:46:08 PM

revrendjim: Guy Fieri has proven that it is indeed possible to make a good living as a professional douchenozzle.


While I agree, I think you mis-spelled Bobby Flay.
 
2012-09-29 09:47:12 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: America, f--k yeah.

2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"... which Guy Fieri is not. Dude never went to culinary school, he's just a business owner who happens to know how to cook a few things.

True, true.

That said, my aunt was on Fieri's DDD show. Good for publicity, so I know the owner was cool with it, but IIRC in the whole "how do you make this" section she (the owner) looks like she's going to stab or biatch slap Fieri the entire time. Which... was kinda awesome.

But that said, Bourdain, nothing you're gonna say is gonna change the fact that tourists will flock to the place. So... give it up for your blood pressure if nothing else. You can't save everyone.


Hey, I'm going to play retarded devil's advocate here, so please don't farky me as 'full retard' or something..

If a tourist is in town, and wants to 'do the city' or whatever, they're typically going to be a middle class family of 4 looking to 'experience' the city, and not looking for a real tactical assault style approach that AB does. So the tourist traps give them something big and flashy to tell their friends they did, they get to 'spend some mad money' or whatever, get some...probably not entirely unedible food that's a little different than what they'd get at home, get to experience something, and the food tastes great because they're spending stupid cash on it so it has to be great.

I mean, are the people flocking to places like this really the types who, in the absence of the floating pustule, would opt for the small hole in the wall with the best food in town? Or would they just go across the way to somewhere equally flashy and pointless, because they're idiotic tourists?

How many tourists really travel for the food anyway? Aren't most family vacations more about doing generic 'stuff'? Seeing stuff, doing stuff, 'making memories', 'having adventures' and so on? How impressed is your neighbor going to be that you traveled to new york and had the worlds best corn fritters as voted by a handful of people who're rocket scientists in the corn fritter world but he's never hear of, vs...visiting the highly visible cook's eating joint with shiatty food?
 
2012-09-29 09:48:58 PM

hulk hogan meat shoes: Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.

He flip flopped on Emeril. Did Emeril have an insufferable shtick? God yes. Is he an exemplary chef? God yes. Hating a man in your field based on his persona and not his food is a douchetastic thing to do, especially when Bourdain's persona is some kind of faux tough guy douche who wears leather in hundred degree heat just to look "bad ass."


He found out that Emeril actually paid his dues. Hence his change of heart.
 
2012-09-29 09:52:52 PM
Opie and Anthony are still on the air? I thought they were doing podcasts over the CB channels.
 
2012-09-29 09:53:04 PM
I remember Opie and Anthony...they used to be those two radio guys we made fun of ten years ago. What, are they doing podcasts now or something?
 
2012-09-29 10:02:26 PM

Onkel Buck: drewogatory: My buddy and I have a standing agreement that should one of us ever run into Fieri on the street, we are to administer a complete ass kicking and the other will be good for bail money and a ride home from jail.

So you and your "buddy" have conversations about beating up chefs? NTTIAWWT


what it's just a little Guy bashing!?
 
2012-09-29 10:06:13 PM

Jean Genetic: If you go to NYC and go to a chain restaurant, you're an idiot. You've got amazing food from street carts to ultradeluxe restaurants that you won't see in your home town. Free your gullet from TV chefs!


I'll amend that to include just about any tourist destination... 100+ locally-owned restaurants within 5 miles of the hotel and I hear guests say "OMG they have a TGI Fridays!".

/local bar & grill 1 block away has better food AND lower prices
 
2012-09-29 10:09:47 PM

kroonermanblack: How many tourists really travel for the food anyway?


Maybe not for the food, but some of us have a travel guideline that says we should eat where the locals do. It is the best way to get a real feel for a new city. Find the crowd of Chinese guys heading out for Peking Duck in Toronto, follow them and have the best Chinese meal of your life. Same goes for other ethnicities as well.

I know when I'm in a new town I don't just want the same old stuff.
 
2012-09-29 10:09:58 PM

Jizz Master Zero: OgreMagi: I went to Guy's Johnny Garlic a few nights ago for the very first time. The burger wasn't bad, but I would have preferred to go to Five Guys and spend less than half the amount for a far superior burger.

Every time the wife and I are down in Hacienda Crossings, we consider it. Then we say fark it, grab either Five Guys or Red Tractor and go home instead.


You made the right choice.
 
2012-09-29 10:18:08 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-29 10:51:36 PM

sleeps in trees: Mrtraveler01: StreetlightInTheGhetto: But that said, Bourdain, nothing you're gonna say is gonna change the fact that tourists will flock to the place. So... give it up for your blood pressure if nothing else. You can't save everyone.

I always get a kick out of the Olive Garden/Red Lobster commercials because they always have a disclaimer that says that the deals they advertise on TV are not valid in Hawaii and Times Square.

So you know they're ripping people off for the same food they can get back home.

Times Square is like the Whistler of Canada.


Times Square isn't in Canada.
 
2012-09-29 10:52:51 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: [i.imgur.com image 300x422]


Last Tango In Paula?
 
2012-09-29 11:03:39 PM
Is it possible to have a place in Times Square and only charge $2 for a burger?
 
2012-09-29 11:04:32 PM
I try to go to great lengths to avoid criticizing chefs and cooks unfairly. However with Guy I've never seen him do anything that takes skill or imagination. He's not a chef or a cook, he's a business owner. Most of his stuff doesn't even look like it'd taste good, he's just marketing to idiots and trying to seem "Xtreme".
 
2012-09-29 11:05:55 PM
there is a diner in between the highway near Sparta NJ that was nice to eat at. Guy Farkface visited, gave a place a thumbs up, and they've been a bunch of dooshbags with high prices ever since. please stay out of NJ, Guy Farkface. dooshbag.
 
2012-09-29 11:08:35 PM

Cerebral Knievel: iron_city_ap: Infobahn: I met Guy at 5 am at the Oakland Airport as he (and the production crew) was leaving to film. I said hello, and he was very nice and introduced me to the producer and a few of the other crew members.

I have eaten at both of his concepts, and enjoyed the food. Tex Wasabi's was more bar food, but it was really good bar food. At Johnny Garlics, the Buffalo Meat Loaf was really good.

There were little things I didn't like, but overall I would go back to eat there again.

If you haven't tried his food, you should. Have an informed opinion.

BTW, rent is expensive in NYC, so most every restaurant is expensive.

Buffalo meatloaf sounds tasty. I wish it wasn't as expensive as it is. @$20/lb around here. Granted, I could track it to the source and prob. get it cheaper.

I like to make a meatloaf I call "my politically incorrect meatloaf.
50/50 ground bison and veal

buffalo is very dry, not a lot of fat, but has a nice rich flavor, so I add the veal to moisten it up so the Buffalo doesn't turn to dust when bake it.

the stuff is awesome!

the aforementioned blend of meats.

one whole egg per pound used,

two slices of stale bread per pound of meat, crusted and cubed, enough milk to saturate and soak

one whole medium onion, per pound of meat. peeled and run through the little holes on the stand grater to "juice and pulp" the onion.
Italion spices, and granulated garlic to taste. Italian spices, equal parts Oregano,, parsley, and ground bay. leaf. The usual.

squeeze out the milk soaked bread, throw the eggs in the meat with all the spices.

salt and pepper, to taste.

combine by hand, put in a loaf pan, and bake at 375 till done.


its all pretty much by feel. but meatloaf night at the summer camp I cooked at ( my last pro cooking gig ) was always well anticipated by everyone.


I've always taken my meatloaf out of the loaf pan once it's firmed up enough and put it on a sheet tray while barding it with bacon so it doesn't swim in a bowl of fat. Is the ground bison you are using just dry enough that it isn't necessary to do that?
 
2012-09-29 11:08:37 PM

kroonermanblack: I mean, are the people flocking to places like this really the types who, in the absence of the floating pustule, would opt for the small hole in the wall with the best food in town? Or would they just go across the way to somewhere equally flashy and pointless, because they're idiotic tourists?


Exactly. Most of them head straight for the nearest Hard Rock Cafe or some equally dire themed venue serving safe food at outrageous prices.
 
2012-09-29 11:08:48 PM

insertsnarkyusername: I try to go to great lengths to avoid criticizing chefs and cooks unfairly. However with Guy I've never seen him do anything that takes skill or imagination. He's not a chef or a cook, he's a business owner. Most of his stuff doesn't even look like it'd taste good, he's just marketing to idiots and trying to seem "Xtreme".


Wouldn't matter if he was Thomas Keller with that stupid haircut and those freaking sunglasses. We don't hate him because he can't cook (I've cooked for a living off and on since 82, and I still suck), we hate him because he's a douchy frat boy who dresses like a Jersey Shore reject.
 
2012-09-29 11:10:45 PM

drewogatory: insertsnarkyusername: I try to go to great lengths to avoid criticizing chefs and cooks unfairly. However with Guy I've never seen him do anything that takes skill or imagination. He's not a chef or a cook, he's a business owner. Most of his stuff doesn't even look like it'd taste good, he's just marketing to idiots and trying to seem "Xtreme".

Wouldn't matter if he was Thomas Keller with that stupid haircut and those freaking sunglasses. We don't hate him because he can't cook (I've cooked for a living off and on since 82, and I still suck), we hate him because he's a douchy frat boy who dresses like a Jersey Shore reject.


I hate him because he advocates crappy food. I'm not talking about his shows, dives and diners can be fun and surprisingly good. I'm talking about his cook books and products, all of them suck horribly.
 
2012-09-29 11:13:34 PM

VINCENT: "Did you just order a five-dollar shake?"


MIA: "Sure did."


VINCENT: "A shake? Milk and ice cream?"


MIA: "Uh-huh."


VINCENT: "It costs five dollars?"


BUDDY: "Yep."


VINCENT: "You don't put bourbon in it or anything?"


BUDDY: "Nope."


VINCENT: "Just checking."

 
2012-09-29 11:13:43 PM

insertsnarkyusername: drewogatory: insertsnarkyusername: I try to go to great lengths to avoid criticizing chefs and cooks unfairly. However with Guy I've never seen him do anything that takes skill or imagination. He's not a chef or a cook, he's a business owner. Most of his stuff doesn't even look like it'd taste good, he's just marketing to idiots and trying to seem "Xtreme".

Wouldn't matter if he was Thomas Keller with that stupid haircut and those freaking sunglasses. We don't hate him because he can't cook (I've cooked for a living off and on since 82, and I still suck), we hate him because he's a douchy frat boy who dresses like a Jersey Shore reject.

I hate him because he advocates crappy food. I'm not talking about his shows, dives and diners can be fun and surprisingly good. I'm talking about his cook books and products, all of them suck horribly.


He did go to Jamie's in Sacramento, I'll give him that. That place is awesome.
 
2012-09-29 11:16:50 PM

Mrtraveler01: StreetlightInTheGhetto: But that said, Bourdain, nothing you're gonna say is gonna change the fact that tourists will flock to the place. So... give it up for your blood pressure if nothing else. You can't save everyone.

I always get a kick out of the Olive Garden/Red Lobster commercials because they always have a disclaimer that says that the deals they advertise on TV are not valid in Hawaii and Times Square.

So you know they're ripping people off for the same food they can get back home.


Or they just happen to be in the most expensive places in the country.
 
2012-09-29 11:25:22 PM

kroonermanblack: StreetlightInTheGhetto: America, f--k yeah.

2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"... which Guy Fieri is not. Dude never went to culinary school, he's just a business owner who happens to know how to cook a few things.

True, true.

That said, my aunt was on Fieri's DDD show. Good for publicity, so I know the owner was cool with it, but IIRC in the whole "how do you make this" section she (the owner) looks like she's going to stab or biatch slap Fieri the entire time. Which... was kinda awesome.

But that said, Bourdain, nothing you're gonna say is gonna change the fact that tourists will flock to the place. So... give it up for your blood pressure if nothing else. You can't save everyone.

Hey, I'm going to play retarded devil's advocate here, so please don't farky me as 'full retard' or something..

If a tourist is in town, and wants to 'do the city' or whatever, they're typically going to be a middle class family of 4 looking to 'experience' the city, and not looking for a real tactical assault style approach that AB does. So the tourist traps give them something big and flashy to tell their friends they did, they get to 'spend some mad money' or whatever, get some...probably not entirely unedible food that's a little different than what they'd get at home, get to experience something, and the food tastes great because they're spending stupid cash on it so it has to be great.

I mean, are the people flocking to places like this really the types who, in the absence of the floating pustule, would opt for the small hole in the wall with the best food in town? Or would they just go across the way to somewhere equally flashy and pointless, because they're idiotic tourists?

How many tourists really travel for the food anyway? Aren't most family vacations more about doing generic 'stuff'? Seeing stuff, doing stuff, 'making memories', 'having adventures' and so on? How impressed is your neighbor going to be that you traveled to new ...



Your words reek of wisdom.
 
2012-09-29 11:28:41 PM

hulk hogan meat shoes: Everything about that story screams douche.

Bourdain- douche.
Fieri- douche.
Opie and Anthony- douches.
Anyone who likes any of these people- douche.


I met my wife through Ron and Fez, which is O&A's companion show, who is also the mother of my beautiful daughter, so you can just go rightly fark yourself.
 
2012-09-29 11:36:24 PM
"That's just the cost of bold flavors. Freedom isn't free you guys." -Karl Welzein
 
2012-09-29 11:36:40 PM

MatrixOutsider: Opie and Anthony are still on the air? I thought they were doing podcasts over the CB channels.


MikeSass: I remember Opie and Anthony...they used to be those two radio guys we made fun of ten years ago. What, are they doing podcasts now or something?


With in 10 seconds you self-outed your own alt. Are you THAT dumb?
 
2012-09-29 11:36:54 PM
Bourdain's interview was off the chains!
 
2012-09-29 11:39:43 PM

xaks: revrendjim: Guy Fieri has proven that it is indeed possible to make a good living as a professional douchenozzle.

While I agree, I think you mis-spelled Bobby Flay.


Difference: Flay's food is farking amazing and his restaurants don't look like an asshole designed them.

I always give Fieri the benefit of the doubt but I was aghast when I saw the interior of his restaurant. It's almost like he understands that no foodie or New Yorker will set foot in that place, that it's basically designed for tourists.

That said, Morimoto is opening a comfort food restaurant. (!!!)
 
2012-09-29 11:43:01 PM

Jean Genetic: If you go to NYC and go to a chain restaurant, you're an idiot. You've got amazing food from street carts to ultradeluxe restaurants that you won't see in your home town. Free your gullet from TV chefs!


Agreed. When I go on vacation, I only eat at local restaurants, with the exception of chains that are not available back home.

I don't have a Waffle House or In-n-Out local to me, so those are nice treats.
 
2012-09-29 11:45:34 PM

MattyFridays: xaks: revrendjim: Guy Fieri has proven that it is indeed possible to make a good living as a professional douchenozzle.

While I agree, I think you mis-spelled Bobby Flay.

Difference: Flay's food is farking amazing and his restaurants don't look like an asshole designed them.

I always give Fieri the benefit of the doubt but I was aghast when I saw the interior of his restaurant. It's almost like he understands that no foodie or New Yorker will set foot in that place, that it's basically designed for tourists.

That said, Morimoto is opening a comfort food restaurant. (!!!)


I disagree slightly.

Flay's food is "Grilled with chipotle something" or "fried something" 90% of the time.

That aside, he DOES make the occasional good dish. But if you don't like chipotle or fried, you're pretty much SOL.

And in my case, it isn't that I don't like those things, but my family doesn't, so that pretty much means I don't get it. Cue a Sam Jackson pic on that.
 
2012-09-29 11:54:44 PM

xaks: Flay's food is "Grilled with chipotle something" or "fried something" 90% of the time.


Flay is a one trick pony, and he comes across as a passive-aggressive douche. Never met him, so I have no idea what he's really like but on TV he's not a likeable character.
 
2012-09-29 11:57:42 PM

xaks:

I disagree slightly.

Flay's food is "Grilled with chipotle something" or "fried something" 90% of the time.

That aside, he DOES make the occasional good dish. But if you don't like chipotle or fried, you're pretty much SOL.

And in my case, it isn't that I don't like those things, but my family doesn't, so that pretty much means I don't get it. Cue a Sam Jackson pic on that.


His primary cooking style is southwestern, so there are going to be peppers involved. It's up to YOU to take a recipe and modify it if your family doesn't dig something.

I don't dig chipotle that much either, makes my stomach upset, but my wife can change the recipes so we're both happy.

As for frying - not so much. One of his shows is all about grilling. Not a lot of frying there.

I guess we'll agree to disagree, but one thing I'd like to point out:

Bourdain doesn't actually cook. What No Reservations basically boils down to is an international version of Diners Drive Ins and Dives geared for an intellectual set.

Fieri, at least, has an actual instructional cooking show. Bourdain does not.
 
2012-09-29 11:58:33 PM

whatshisname: xaks: Flay's food is "Grilled with chipotle something" or "fried something" 90% of the time.

Flay is a one trick pony, and he comes across as a passive-aggressive douche. Never met him, so I have no idea what he's really like but on TV he's not a likeable character.


Honestly, I think he's mellowed tremendously. He's still a dick, but he's entertaining.
 
2012-09-29 11:59:04 PM

MattyFridays: Jean Genetic: If you go to NYC and go to a chain restaurant, you're an idiot. You've got amazing food from street carts to ultradeluxe restaurants that you won't see in your home town. Free your gullet from TV chefs!

Agreed. When I go on vacation, I only eat at local restaurants, with the exception of chains that are not available back home.

I don't have a Waffle House or In-n-Out local to me, so those are nice treats.




I'm with you. Waffle House gets a stop or two whenever we travel South.
 
2012-09-30 12:00:20 AM

Hebalo: 2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"

Ummm, isn't Bourdain exactly that?


Quantum Apostrophe: boil


Read "Becoming a Chef", and you'll get a good idea of the man and his kitchen skillin' that transitioned him into the writer that he has become known for being.
 
2012-09-30 12:01:49 AM

MattyFridays: Fieri, at least, has an actual instructional cooking show. Bourdain does not.


But Bourdain's shows have some substance. I have learned the square root of fark all from anything Guy Fieri has ever done, other than how to have a cardiac arrest really quick. Bourdain, on the other hand,makes me think about food in different ways and want to visit the places he does.
 
2012-09-30 12:04:09 AM
Coolest part about AB is that in NYC that it's not that uncommon to see him at food trucks (he was in line infront of me once at the Big Gay Ice Cream truck) or cool niche restaurants that don't cost and arm and a leg -- he eats what he preaches.
 
2012-09-30 12:23:16 AM

hulk hogan meat shoes: Everything about that story screams douche.

Bourdain- douche.
Fieri- douche.
Opie and Anthony- douches.
Anyone who likes any of these people- douche.


Citation needed. He's admitted to being one ( and worse) when younger, so I'm not sure if he belongs in that catagory anymore....
 
2012-09-30 12:32:39 AM
So there I am, shopping at Costco, looking for my usual giant glob of pre-marinated carne asada.

They don't have it. Instead, I see Guy Fieri's Carne Asada. How bad could it be, amirite?

Ugh. It tasted like it was marinated in those packets of Taco Bell sauce.

He's a farking hack.
 
2012-09-30 12:42:01 AM

Mrtraveler01: StreetlightInTheGhetto: But that said, Bourdain, nothing you're gonna say is gonna change the fact that tourists will flock to the place. So... give it up for your blood pressure if nothing else. You can't save everyone.

I always get a kick out of the Olive Garden/Red Lobster commercials because they always have a disclaimer that says that the deals they advertise on TV are not valid in Hawaii and Times Square.

So you know they're ripping people off for the same food they can get back home.


My family went to a wedding in NYC. The day before, my immediate family and I had one of the best dinners of my entire life at this random Italian place we stumbled onto.

Met my cousins and uncle after that for a show... yeah, they went to the Olive Garden in Times Square. And raved about it.

To this day, my Dad and I will mutter "Olive Garden" under our breath any time my cousins or uncle bring up a restaurant that's just awesome. Or really, anything to do with food.

/it's like eating in the private kitchen of a delightful Italian stereotype!
//...DAMMIT! I haven't been to the Olive Garden in like FOREVER!
///[semi obscure; shouldn't be]
 
2012-09-30 12:46:28 AM

Forbidden Doughnut: hulk hogan meat shoes: Everything about that story screams douche.

Bourdain- douche.
Fieri- douche.
Opie and Anthony- douches.
Anyone who likes any of these people- douche.

Citation needed. He's admitted to being one ( and worse) when younger, so I'm not sure if he belongs in that catagory anymore....


By his own admission he was a giant asshole douchebag when he was younger. Like..he says it on his show, any time they revisit somewhere he hit up when younger.

Anderson's Pooper: kroonermanblack: How many tourists really travel for the food anyway?

Maybe not for the food, but some of us have a travel guideline that says we should eat where the locals do. It is the best way to get a real feel for a new city. Find the crowd of Chinese guys heading out for Peking Duck in Toronto, follow them and have the best Chinese meal of your life. Same goes for other ethnicities as well.

I know when I'm in a new town I don't just want the same old stuff.


Ya, uh, for the record? You're not really 'tourists' in the normal sense. You're, uh, normal people visiting a town. Think 'wearing the mickey mouse hat middle age midwestern soccer mom' for tourist?

I now have to tattle on myself, but it's late and the thread's dieing.

I live in Dallas. 15 minutes from Downtown, Deep Ellum, Greenville.

And I can't name or locate more than, say, 5 non chain places near me. I has a sad. I'm a damned tourist in my own city.
 
2012-09-30 12:46:36 AM

kroonermanblack: I mean, are the people flocking to places like this really the types who, in the absence of the floating pustule, would opt for the small hole in the wall with the best food in town? Or would they just go across the way to somewhere equally flashy and pointless, because they're idiotic tourists?

How many tourists really travel for the food anyway? Aren't most family vacations more about doing generic 'stuff'? Seeing stuff, doing stuff, 'making memories', 'having adventures' and so on? How impressed is your neighbor going to be that you traveled to new york and had the worlds best corn fritters as voted by a handful of people who're rocket scientists in the corn fritter world but he's never hear of, vs...visiting the highly visible cook's eating joint with shiatty food?


I'll bear with you. I don't travel "for the food", but if I'm going to spend money in a random city, on vacation, in the age of The Internet, you're goddamn right I'm not going to go to anything I can get at home if I can help it. Whether I'm the mainstream or not, I don't know. In my (admittedly small) extended family, we're pretty evenly split between "being crazy excited we found a stupidly awesome Italian family place" and "hey, Olive Garden".

One of the best meals of my entire life was an Ethiopian place in Toronto that my friend and I went to because they were still open at 2 AM. We were the only ones who were speaking English in the joint (the other patrons knew it, and our waitress kinda did, but we were the only ones speaking English *to each other*). I didn't travel there for the food (or any reason other than "I need to get the f--k out of Michigan, it's spring break, any takers... Angela, you're down, sweet, let's go, Canada's better than Ohio or Illinois and we both gotta be back for work in 4 days), but it was awesome.
 
2012-09-30 12:49:08 AM

hulk hogan meat shoes: He flip flopped on Emeril. Did Emeril have an insufferable shtick? God yes. Is he an exemplary chef? God yes. Hating a man in your field based on his persona and not his food is a douchetastic thing to do, especially when Bourdain's persona is some kind of faux tough guy douche who wears leather in hundred degree heat just to look "bad ass."


the dude used to sell his stuff on a blanket on the sidewalk to buy drugs. his personality is not fake.


Bigedmond: but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.


He is the one who walked away from Travel. He wanted to go do something with CNN because one, its a bigger network, and two, CNN can get him into more at-risk zones than travel can.
 
2012-09-30 12:51:32 AM
Oh, and so far, the general public seems to have the same opinion of the Terror-Dome.

Yelps piss-poor 2 star rating:

Link
 
2012-09-30 12:52:38 AM
The other thing is that the last few times I've traveled, I've traveled to places where I know someone. Either I'm going there to meet them (work trip to Jersey) or I just know someone who relocated and I'm meeting them up (side weekend trip from Jersey to NYC).

Personally, if *I'm* showing someone around town, I'm not going to take them to the f--king Macaroni Grill. I'll take them to the kickass taqueria down the street, the Japanese place with homemade soba soup also down the street, the Middle Eastern pita place a slightly further drive away... cause they can't get that shiat at home. Or I'll take them exploring with me to somewhere that I've heard is good but haven't tried yet. Which is what my friend in NYC did when I visited (because I had just spent 2 weeks in an off season Jersey Shore town and was craving *anything* ethnic that wasn't Italian or Latin American, so we found awesome Indian and Ethiopian places near where we got hungry - again, thanks Internet).
 
2012-09-30 12:54:33 AM

Mrtraveler01:
I always get a kick out of the Olive Garden/Red Lobster commercials because they always have a disclaimer that says that the deals they advertise on TV are not valid in Hawaii and Times Square.

.


The majority of places in manhattan, including mcdonalds, burger king, etc, do not honor national pricing.

That $1 McDouble runs about $1.69 or so. the Dollar Menu is largely absent.

Typically, a $7 meal in a fast food place is going to be around $9 in midtown or downtown.
 
2012-09-30 12:55:09 AM

skinink: VINCENT: "Did you just order a five-dollar shake?"
MIA: "Sure did."
VINCENT: "A shake? Milk and ice cream?"
MIA: "Uh-huh."
VINCENT: "It costs five dollars?"
BUDDY: "Yep."
VINCENT: "You don't put bourbon in it or anything?"
BUDDY: "Nope."
VINCENT: "Just checking."


That is a pretty good f*ckin mikshake,I don't know if it was worth 5 $ but
it was pretty f*kin good.
 
2012-09-30 01:01:48 AM

Onkel Buck: PBS still has guys like that. Yan, Bayless, and Ming Tsai are all good chefs and good hosts without being idiots.

His schtick are his aprons, but he can back it up. Loved watching his show.


sites2.globalsignin.com =/= horiwood.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-30 01:13:53 AM

LemSkroob: Mrtraveler01:
I always get a kick out of the Olive Garden/Red Lobster commercials because they always have a disclaimer that says that the deals they advertise on TV are not valid in Hawaii and Times Square.

.

The majority of places in manhattan, including mcdonalds, burger king, etc, do not honor national pricing.

That $1 McDouble runs about $1.69 or so. the Dollar Menu is largely absent.

Typically, a $7 meal in a fast food place is going to be around $9 in midtown or downtown.


They tend to have prominent locations. Going on side streets and lesser known places I tend to find prices are about what they are in my town of 80,000 and sometimes cheaper.
 
2012-09-30 01:16:23 AM

Anderson's Pooper: kroonermanblack: How many tourists really travel for the food anyway?

Maybe not for the food, but some of us have a travel guideline that says we should eat where the locals do. It is the best way to get a real feel for a new city. Find the crowd of Chinese guys heading out for Peking Duck in Toronto, follow them and have the best Chinese meal of your life.


I tried that once, I Didn't find the best Chinese restaurant in the city, but I did find the best pet shop in the city.
 
2012-09-30 01:38:04 AM

LemSkroob: Oh, and so far, the general public seems to have the same opinion of the Terror-Dome.

Yelps piss-poor 2 star rating:

Link


dude its yelp. Its bored hipster women and guys that wear skinny jeans and wearing scarfs writing reviews. General public, yelp reviewers are not. I dated a girl who lived by yelp and did all their get togethers. I even went to a couple of things with her to give it a chance. Screw that yelp shiat.
 
2012-09-30 01:43:21 AM

phedex: LemSkroob: Oh, and so far, the general public seems to have the same opinion of the Terror-Dome.

Yelps piss-poor 2 star rating:

Link

dude its yelp. Its bored hipster women and guys that wear skinny jeans and wearing scarfs writing reviews. General public, yelp reviewers are not. I dated a girl who lived by yelp and did all their get togethers. I even went to a couple of things with her to give it a chance. Screw that yelp shiat.


The man opened a school cafeteria sized setup in Time Square. Do you really think the food there is going to be anything other than mediocre?
 
2012-09-30 02:33:11 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: kroonermanblack: I mean, are the people flocking to places like this really the types who, in the absence of the floating pustule, would opt for the small hole in the wall with the best food in town? Or would they just go across the way to somewhere equally flashy and pointless, because they're idiotic tourists?

How many tourists really travel for the food anyway? Aren't most family vacations more about doing generic 'stuff'? Seeing stuff, doing stuff, 'making memories', 'having adventures' and so on? How impressed is your neighbor going to be that you traveled to new york and had the worlds best corn fritters as voted by a handful of people who're rocket scientists in the corn fritter world but he's never hear of, vs...visiting the highly visible cook's eating joint with shiatty food?

I'll bear with you. I don't travel "for the food", but if I'm going to spend money in a random city, on vacation, in the age of The Internet, you're goddamn right I'm not going to go to anything I can get at home if I can help it. Whether I'm the mainstream or not, I don't know. In my (admittedly small) extended family, we're pretty evenly split between "being crazy excited we found a stupidly awesome Italian family place" and "hey, Olive Garden".

One of the best meals of my entire life was an Ethiopian place in Toronto that my friend and I went to because they were still open at 2 AM. We were the only ones who were speaking English in the joint (the other patrons knew it, and our waitress kinda did, but we were the only ones speaking English *to each other*). I didn't travel there for the food (or any reason other than "I need to get the f--k out of Michigan, it's spring break, any takers... Angela, you're down, sweet, let's go, Canada's better than Ohio or Illinois and we both gotta be back for work in 4 days), but it was awesome.


I'm with you. I don't travel just for the food, but I don't go eat at chain restaurants while I'm traveling (well, except for Asian KFC, Asian KFC is like crack. I can't explain it but I just can't stop eating it). Most of my relatives are of the, "hey, Olive Garden!" sort, or actually, Olive Garden is the improved option over the crappy cafeteria-style Pennsylvania Dutch restaurants that they want to go to when they visit. I really don't understand it because they're from Pennsylvania and can eat non-crappy PA Dutch food every day of their lives, but they come to Florida and you have to suggest Olive Garden because otherwise you'll find yourself being dragged to the crappy fake PA Dutch places.
 
2012-09-30 02:42:51 AM

Buttle not Tuttle: The only time I ever see Guy Fieri is at the gym, of all places. Someone will be on the treadmill watching him make duck lips after stuffing pulled pork in his maw, Oakleys hanging off the back of his head for that extra douchey look. How does THAT motivate you to burn calories?


Maybe they imagine that the treadmill is Guy's face? That would motivate me to run much harder.
 
2012-09-30 02:50:29 AM

Onkel Buck: drewogatory: Onkel Buck: drewogatory: My buddy and I have a standing agreement that should one of us ever run into Fieri on the street, we are to administer a complete ass kicking and the other will be good for bail money and a ride home from jail.

So you and your "buddy" have conversations about beating up chefs? NTTIAWWT

Well, just Fieri so far. We had alot of time to sit and drink and watch daytime TV at the dead-during-the-day bar where we worked. I'm sure we had other plans for random assault and mayhem, although i can't recall exactly what they were now, except one involved Burning Man and tactical nuclear weapons.

You're a good egg Drewnan


Drew made an unfortunate remark about glasses in another thread, but I think he has redeemed himself since.

I like him.

=]
 
2012-09-30 02:58:54 AM

xaks: MattyFridays: xaks: revrendjim: Guy Fieri has proven that it is indeed possible to make a good living as a professional douchenozzle.

While I agree, I think you mis-spelled Bobby Flay.

Difference: Flay's food is farking amazing and his restaurants don't look like an asshole designed them.

I always give Fieri the benefit of the doubt but I was aghast when I saw the interior of his restaurant. It's almost like he understands that no foodie or New Yorker will set foot in that place, that it's basically designed for tourists.

That said, Morimoto is opening a comfort food restaurant. (!!!)

I disagree slightly.

Flay's food is "Grilled with chipotle something" or "fried something" 90% of the time.

That aside, he DOES make the occasional good dish. But if you don't like chipotle or fried, you're pretty much SOL.

And in my case, it isn't that I don't like those things, but my family doesn't, so that pretty much means I don't get it. Cue a Sam Jackson pic on that.


Occasionally, Flay tries to "mix it up" by putting some mango, cilantro, blue corn or bourbon in it.

That's why he lost "Throwdown" so often - the judges could tell which dish was his because it would always have his usual ingredients in it, even if it didn't suit the dish.

"We chose Nona's mac & cheese over Bobby Flay's bourbon and mango mac & cheese"
 
2012-09-30 03:03:41 AM

LemSkroob: Oh, and so far, the general public seems to have the same opinion of the Terror-Dome.

Yelps piss-poor 2 star rating:

Link


I love this gem: "[Guy's restaurant] looks like the Hard Rock Cafe date-raped the Cheesecake Factory"
 
2012-09-30 03:54:59 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Personally, if *I'm* showing someone around town, I'm not going to take them to the f--king Macaroni Grill. I'll take them to the kickass taqueria down the street, the Japanese place with homemade soba soup also down the street, the Middle Eastern pita place a slightly further drive away... cause they can't get that shiat at home. Or I'll take them exploring with me to somewhere that I've heard is good but haven't tried yet. Which is what my friend in NYC did when I visited (because I had just spent 2 weeks in an off season Jersey Shore town and was craving *anything* ethnic that wasn't Italian or Latin American, so we found awesome Indian and Ethiopian places near where we got hungry - again, thanks Internet).


I've been living in Australia for the last few years. I came back to visit my family in Detroit and they took me out to Xochimilco, which is a nice try, but basically the crappiest mexican restaurant in mexican-town (I am aware that it used to be much better, like when I was in college.... but I digress). The thing is, my family was raving about it.

I don't think you can really trust people to show you the good places when you travel, even if they are trying really hard. I make it a habit now to check out any place that someone suggests on Yelp first just to see if it's absolute rubbish or not and then gently suggest alternatives if it looks terrible.
 
2012-09-30 04:00:07 AM

KrispyKritter: there is a diner in between the highway near Sparta NJ that was nice to eat at. Guy Farkface visited, gave a place a thumbs up, and they've been a bunch of dooshbags with high prices ever since. please stay out of NJ, Guy Farkface. dooshbag.


Buddy of mine has the same complaint about some restaurant in Denver he used to go to until douchebag came along.
 
2012-09-30 04:08:35 AM
Well, Guy Fieri is the third and final Antichrist

/Note, above is from a work of fiction
//Not obscure on the Internet.
 
2012-09-30 04:40:23 AM

Moopy Mac: sleeps in trees: Mrtraveler01: StreetlightInTheGhetto: But that said, Bourdain, nothing you're gonna say is gonna change the fact that tourists will flock to the place. So... give it up for your blood pressure if nothing else. You can't save everyone.

I always get a kick out of the Olive Garden/Red Lobster commercials because they always have a disclaimer that says that the deals they advertise on TV are not valid in Hawaii and Times Square.

So you know they're ripping people off for the same food they can get back home.

Times Square is like the Whistler of Canada.

Times Square isn't in Canada.


Whistler is only worthwhile when they have the ice race (that's cars on ice tracks, for the uninitiated). From 1954-1989 there was a Montana team that went every year, with factory endorsement (Ford. Subaru and Chevy). After the 1989 season the major factory teams took note and fielded their own "professional" teams.

By 1998 the enthusiasm had died down and no one wanted to sponsor them; then Archie Cochran of Billings, MT (DAMN STRAIGHT!) gave a four-group a SVO Mustang (that's a twin-turbo FOUR CYLINDER Mustang) with ice tires (VERY hard plastic fin in the middle, and aggro tread on the outside) and said, "We sponsor, YOU (no hired drivers) RACE."

They came in 5th in a "force" (meaning a 32-person segment) and wound up taking 7th overall.

This is what they're taking this year:

dsc.discovery.com

That is a Boss 302 Mustang - they elected it over the 5.0 (too squirrely) and the Saleen (too light). There is always one tuned, painted (never with Archie's colors or name) and sold as though they had bought it off the showroom floor. Since 1994 Montana is the *ONLY* state to have a singular vehicle enter the WIRC with multiple pilots, the Canuckistanis always want to see what weird crap is placed on such hallowed ground - and we never bring anything less than the best.

/We've never finished higher than 5th... beating a GT-X Porsche and a Jaguar XKR to get there in 2004.
//HOWEVER: We've never finished LOWER than 10th. Making Montana one of the BEST ice racing teams in the world.
 
2012-09-30 04:44:11 AM
Should mention:

Anthony Bourdain ate at The Rex in Billings, MT and said it had the best expensive food at dirt cheap prices he's ever eaten.

/Seriously. Trout fillaise for $11.95. Anywhere else in the country it'd be $30.
//The "Whistler" comment made me angry, Whistler isn't a ski resort - it's a winter playground where even Micheal Schumacher races.
 
2012-09-30 05:28:29 AM

hulk hogan meat shoes: Cerebral Knievel: hulk hogan meat shoes: Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.

He flip flopped on Emeril. Did Emeril have an insufferable shtick? God yes. Is he an exemplary chef? God yes. Hating a man in your field based on his persona and not his food is a douchetastic thing to do, especially when Bourdain's persona is some kind of faux tough guy douche who wears leather in hundred degree heat just to look "bad ass."

See, I don't really mind Emeril that much... yeah, dudes schtick, but, to me, he's like the last of the old school TV cooks. the kind of TV cook that was in place before the Personality people took over.

PBS still has guys like that. Yan, Bayless, and Ming Tsai are all good chefs and good hosts without being idiots.


Ming Tsai is on PBS? Good to know thank you! I liked him on food network and then he seemed the disappear. Thanks for letting me know!
 
2012-09-30 05:31:57 AM

xaks: revrendjim: Guy Fieri has proven that it is indeed possible to make a good living as a professional douchenozzle.

While I agree, I think you mis-spelled Bobby Flay.


I think Throwdown is terrible! He competes with people who are good and proud of something they make and Flay comes in and usually wins. Nice way to shoot someone down.
 
2012-09-30 06:09:41 AM

buckeyebrain: Onkel Buck: PBS still has guys like that. Yan, Bayless, and Ming Tsai are all good chefs and good hosts without being idiots.

His schtick are his aprons, but he can back it up. Loved watching his show.

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OMG WOK WITH YAN!!!! Total flashback.
 
2012-09-30 06:44:45 AM
Had to google the name to see who this guy was, and it was who I thought it was, can't you just hand your sunglasses to an assistant (i know this shouldn't bother me as much as it does, but it does)
 
2012-09-30 08:45:11 AM
The tv chef schtick jumped the shark when they cancelled 'The Naughty Chef' & made her a crass, dance nazi for children...
 
2012-09-30 09:15:25 AM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: hulk hogan meat shoes: Cerebral Knievel: hulk hogan meat shoes: Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.

He flip flopped on Emeril. Did Emeril have an insufferable shtick? God yes. Is he an exemplary chef? God yes. Hating a man in your field based on his persona and not his food is a douchetastic thing to do, especially when Bourdain's persona is some kind of faux tough guy douche who wears leather in hundred degree heat just to look "bad ass."

See, I don't really mind Emeril that much... yeah, dudes schtick, but, to me, he's like the last of the old school TV cooks. the kind of TV cook that was in place before the Personality people took over.

PBS still has guys like that. Yan, Bayless, and Ming Tsai are all good chefs and good hosts without being idiots.

Jacques Pepin taught me to love peeled broccoli stalks and how to bone a chicken in two minutes--without dinner or a movie.


Pepin's great. I'd never really tried making a wine-based sauce before until I saw him do it on one of his shows. Simplest thing in the world; cook your chicken, throw in some herbs, de-glaze the pan with some red wine, cover it for a few minutes to thicken, plate and you're done. People eat that and they think you're a genius when it took you all of maybe 8 minutes to throw the dish together.
 
2012-09-30 09:46:03 AM

kroonermanblack: Forbidden Doughnut: hulk hogan meat shoes: Everything about that story screams douche.

Bourdain- douche.
Fieri- douche.
Opie and Anthony- douches.
Anyone who likes any of these people- douche.

Citation needed. He's admitted to being one ( and worse) when younger, so I'm not sure if he belongs in that catagory anymore....

By his own admission he was a giant asshole douchebag when he was younger. Like..he says it on his show, any time they revisit somewhere he hit up when younger.

Anderson's Pooper: kroonermanblack: How many tourists really travel for the food anyway?

Maybe not for the food, but some of us have a travel guideline that says we should eat where the locals do. It is the best way to get a real feel for a new city. Find the crowd of Chinese guys heading out for Peking Duck in Toronto, follow them and have the best Chinese meal of your life. Same goes for other ethnicities as well.

I know when I'm in a new town I don't just want the same old stuff.

Ya, uh, for the record? You're not really 'tourists' in the normal sense. You're, uh, normal people visiting a town. Think 'wearing the mickey mouse hat middle age midwestern soccer mom' for tourist?

I now have to tattle on myself, but it's late and the thread's dieing.

I live in Dallas. 15 minutes from Downtown, Deep Ellum, Greenville.

And I can't name or locate more than, say, 5 non chain places near me. I has a sad. I'm a damned tourist in my own city.


Could be worse. Here in Middle Georgia, the only non-chain places are pretty much Chinese buffets or fried chicken. This entire city is nothing but chain restaurants. If you try to start a place up, you've got a year before it closes:

Two very good Greek places boarded up because they tried to raise the rent on them;

the pub half a mile from my house did amazing business until the owner stopped paying the bills.

Everything else is chains. I have to go to Macon to get decent wings because all we have here is a World of Wings (at least it has beer at reasonable prices) and BWW (just leave your wallet on the counter). Be glad you *have* 5 non-chain places to go...
 
2012-09-30 10:01:07 AM

Mrtraveler01: Arachnophobe: The fact that ESPN Zone is still in business is solid evidence of this.

Actually that went belly up a few years ago when the rest of the economy was tanking.


But, aren't most/all Times Square restaurants more expensive than other areas? Just asking...
 
2012-09-30 10:19:20 AM

Where wolf: kroonermanblack: Forbidden Doughnut: hulk hogan meat shoes: Everything about that story screams douche.

Bourdain- douche.
Fieri- douche.
Opie and Anthony- douches.
Anyone who likes any of these people- douche.

Citation needed. He's admitted to being one ( and worse) when younger, so I'm not sure if he belongs in that catagory anymore....

By his own admission he was a giant asshole douchebag when he was younger. Like..he says it on his show, any time they revisit somewhere he hit up when younger.

Anderson's Pooper: kroonermanblack: How many tourists really travel for the food anyway?

Maybe not for the food, but some of us have a travel guideline that says we should eat where the locals do. It is the best way to get a real feel for a new city. Find the crowd of Chinese guys heading out for Peking Duck in Toronto, follow them and have the best Chinese meal of your life. Same goes for other ethnicities as well.

I know when I'm in a new town I don't just want the same old stuff.

Ya, uh, for the record? You're not really 'tourists' in the normal sense. You're, uh, normal people visiting a town. Think 'wearing the mickey mouse hat middle age midwestern soccer mom' for tourist?

I now have to tattle on myself, but it's late and the thread's dieing.

I live in Dallas. 15 minutes from Downtown, Deep Ellum, Greenville.

And I can't name or locate more than, say, 5 non chain places near me. I has a sad. I'm a damned tourist in my own city.

Could be worse. Here in Middle Georgia, the only non-chain places are pretty much Chinese buffets or fried chicken. This entire city is nothing but chain restaurants. If you try to start a place up, you've got a year before it closes:

Two very good Greek places boarded up because they tried to raise the rent on them;

the pub half a mile from my house did amazing business until the owner stopped paying the bills.

Everything else is chains. I have to go to Macon to get decent wings because all we have here is a World of Wi ...


And here I thought it was impossible for any place to be more homogenous and white-bred than Dallas.
 
2012-09-30 10:34:04 AM

Bastinado: So there I am, shopping at Costco, looking for my usual giant glob of pre-marinated carne asada.

They don't have it. Instead, I see Guy Fieri's Carne Asada. How bad could it be, amirite?

Ugh. It tasted like it was marinated in those packets of Taco Bell sauce.

He's a farking hack.


This. Difficultly: My wife thought it was good.
 
2012-09-30 11:03:42 AM

xaks: revrendjim: Guy Fieri has proven that it is indeed possible to make a good living as a professional douchenozzle.

While I agree, I think you mis-spelled Bobby Flay.


While I agree with both sentiments, Flay at least is a chef who worked his way up to this *fame*. Fieri is just a weiner smoking bozo.
 
2012-09-30 11:18:12 AM

Infobahn: I met Guy at 5 am at the Oakland Airport as he (and the production crew) was leaving to film. I said hello, and he was very nice and introduced me to the producer and a few of the other crew members.

I have eaten at both of his concepts, and enjoyed the food. Tex Wasabi's was more bar food, but it was really good bar food. At Johnny Garlics, the Buffalo Meat Loaf was really good.

There were little things I didn't like, but overall I would go back to eat there again.

If you haven't tried his food, you should. Have an informed opinion.

BTW, rent is expensive in NYC, so most every restaurant is expensive.


The fries at Les Halles aren't $12.
 
2012-09-30 11:31:36 AM
fark Bourdain. I'm not a huge Guy Fieri fan, but from the few episodes of Diners Drive-Ins and Dives I've seen, he comes across as an enthusiastic foodie, not some self-important douche who truest to turn street food into a deep philosophical meditation like Bourdain.

Then again I just hate all things New York.
 
2012-09-30 11:43:25 AM
I have said it before. Bourdain makes me want to be a better asshole.

But that being said, I like watching a show about local joints with Guy who is overly enthusiastic about what is probably better food than the local Crapplebees.

I also like watching Anthony eat at some of the most exclusive restaraunts in the wold, and in the same show eat noodles cooked in a hubcab.
 
2012-09-30 11:44:53 AM
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2012-09-30 11:51:19 AM

rynthetyn: StreetlightInTheGhetto: kroonermanblack: I mean, are the people flocking to places like this really the types who, in the absence of the floating pustule, would opt for the small hole in the wall with the best food in town? Or would they just go across the way to somewhere equally flashy and pointless, because they're idiotic tourists?

How many tourists really travel for the food anyway? Aren't most family vacations more about doing generic 'stuff'? Seeing stuff, doing stuff, 'making memories', 'having adventures' and so on? How impressed is your neighbor going to be that you traveled to new york and had the worlds best corn fritters as voted by a handful of people who're rocket scientists in the corn fritter world but he's never hear of, vs...visiting the highly visible cook's eating joint with shiatty food?

I'll bear with you. I don't travel "for the food", but if I'm going to spend money in a random city, on vacation, in the age of The Internet, you're goddamn right I'm not going to go to anything I can get at home if I can help it. Whether I'm the mainstream or not, I don't know. In my (admittedly small) extended family, we're pretty evenly split between "being crazy excited we found a stupidly awesome Italian family place" and "hey, Olive Garden".

One of the best meals of my entire life was an Ethiopian place in Toronto that my friend and I went to because they were still open at 2 AM. We were the only ones who were speaking English in the joint (the other patrons knew it, and our waitress kinda did, but we were the only ones speaking English *to each other*). I didn't travel there for the food (or any reason other than "I need to get the f--k out of Michigan, it's spring break, any takers... Angela, you're down, sweet, let's go, Canada's better than Ohio or Illinois and we both gotta be back for work in 4 days), but it was awesome.

I'm with you. I don't travel just for the food, but I don't go eat at chain restaurants while I'm traveling (well, except ...


Why is it that people from Pennsylvania love shiatty food? I've worked with a lot of people from Pittsburgh and IUP. Anytime we go on travel, they always want to go to Chili's or Texas Roadhouse. Any mention of a non-chain restaurant and they get this offended look on their faces as if I just slapped their mother in the face.

I hate it, I don't want to eat at chains, even when I show them reviews of places, they ignore them for the chain. I wouldn't mind if I had the option of eating somewhere else, but when you have to share a car, or worry about being seen as a team player, you don't really get a choice.
 
2012-09-30 12:15:06 PM

kroonermanblack: Forbidden Doughnut: hulk hogan meat shoes: Everything about that story screams douche.

Bourdain- douche.
Fieri- douche.
Opie and Anthony- douches.
Anyone who likes any of these people- douche.

Citation needed. He's admitted to being one ( and worse) when younger, so I'm not sure if he belongs in that catagory anymore....

By his own admission he was a giant asshole douchebag when he was younger. Like..he says it on his show, any time they revisit somewhere he hit up when younger.

Anderson's Pooper: kroonermanblack: How many tourists really travel for the food anyway?

Maybe not for the food, but some of us have a travel guideline that says we should eat where the locals do. It is the best way to get a real feel for a new city. Find the crowd of Chinese guys heading out for Peking Duck in Toronto, follow them and have the best Chinese meal of your life. Same goes for other ethnicities as well.

I know when I'm in a new town I don't just want the same old stuff.

Ya, uh, for the record? You're not really 'tourists' in the normal sense. You're, uh, normal people visiting a town. Think 'wearing the mickey mouse hat middle age midwestern soccer mom' for tourist?

I now have to tattle on myself, but it's late and the thread's dieing.

I live in Dallas. 15 minutes from Downtown, Deep Ellum, Greenville.

And I can't name or locate more than, say, 5 non chain places near me. I has a sad. I'm a damned tourist in my own city.


I feel your pain. When I was high school/ college age Cincinnati was teeming with amazing restaurants. Now there is nothing out of the ordinary here. It's like they all folded up their tents and skulked away. OK, ok we still have Jean Robert, but that's about it.

I had to travel for work to Minneapolis about 25 times in the past year and a half- Man, that city is a culinary gem. I literally could not believe the quality and diversity of the food scene there. We ate at a new place almost every night (had to go back to Patrick's Cafe and Bakery a few times, it was SO good. Honest to God French Chef in a strip mall LOL).

It just made coming back home that much worse. If it wasn't for that abyssmal Winter they have up there 9 months of the year, I would definitely consider a transfer.

I love Tony Bourdain. Something about his personality resonates with me. He's smart, he's a smartass with a heart. He can be genuinely touching one moment, and then scathingly critical the next. I would love to get hammered with him while we shared a huge bowl of Pho.

I know this is probably Fark suicide, but I enjoy Guy Fieri. I can completely understand why he is such a hate magnet here- he is gaudy and over the top and has the audacity to wear his sunglasses backwards, someone here once described him, very aptly, as looking like a 6 year old playing the Sun in a school play. But from all I have ever heard (My cousin Nicole is one of the designers on Restaurant Impossible with Robert Irvine, who is a really good friend of Guy's) he is a very friendly, patient, accessible guy (NPI) who will take a minute or two and chat with people just about any time you run into him.

And he went to Culinary School for a year in farkin Paris when he was 15. Wiki it.

The cheflebrity that I suspect is a ginormous douche is Scott Conant. That dude exudes prick from the core of his being.
 
2012-09-30 12:16:41 PM
SockMonkeyHolocaust: Bourdain has described about 90% of the GASTROPUBS that have opened up in Philly in the last five years. The formula seems to saddle a drink gimmick-of-the-minute list (100 BEERS ON TAP! WHISKEY LIKE MOST PEOPLE CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE! PROHIBITION-ERA COCKTAIL MENU!) with an "Americana" menu and unleash it on suckers willing to pay for tater tots and marginally higher-quality-than-a-fast-food-joint burgers that are LOCALLY SOURCED.

I see you've been to Farmer's Cabinet. Also, Stephen Starr is the worst at doing that kind of stuff. Does anyone actually order the whole leg of mutton for $60?
 
2012-09-30 12:17:18 PM

buckeyebrain: Onkel Buck: PBS still has guys like that. Yan, Bayless, and Ming Tsai are all good chefs and good hosts without being idiots.

His schtick are his aprons, but he can back it up. Loved watching his show.

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meh they all look alike, garnish that racism and cook it in your Foreman grill!
 
2012-09-30 12:19:46 PM

egomann: I have said it before. Bourdain makes me want to be a better asshole.

But that being said, I like watching a show about local joints with Guy who is overly enthusiastic about what is probably better food than the local Crapplebees.

I also like watching Anthony eat at some of the most exclusive restaraunts in the wold, and in the same show eat noodles cooked in a hubcab.


I am stealing the phrase Crapplebee's from you. I hope you don't mind.

And btw, No Reservation's is on the Travel Channel right now with Tony and the Queens of the Stone Age.

Bon Appetit!
 
2012-09-30 12:37:07 PM

Soulcatcher: egomann: I have said it before. Bourdain makes me want to be a better asshole.

But that being said, I like watching a show about local joints with Guy who is overly enthusiastic about what is probably better food than the local Crapplebees.

I also like watching Anthony eat at some of the most exclusive restaraunts in the wold, and in the same show eat noodles cooked in a hubcab.

I am stealing the phrase Crapplebee's from you. I hope you don't mind.

And btw, No Reservation's is on the Travel Channel right now with Tony and the Queens of the Stone Age.

Bon Appetit!


I have no idea why I put an apostrophe in No Reservations. Cuervo in the AM is not a good life choice. LOL
 
2012-09-30 12:46:04 PM

Soulcatcher: Drew made an unfortunate remark about glasses in another thread, but I think he has redeemed himself since.

I like him.

=]


Man, I'm never going to live that ill considered choice of words down am i? That'll teach me to nurse a vicious hangover by snarking on the internet, however. Now I just need to work on posting while still drunk.. :)
 
2012-09-30 12:49:32 PM

lasercannon: I tried that once, I Didn't find the best Chinese restaurant in the city, but I did find the best pet shop in the city.


You should have followed them to their next stop.
 
2012-09-30 02:02:18 PM
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Girion47: rynthetyn: StreetlightInTheGhetto: kroonermanblack: I mean, are the people flocking to places like this really the types who, in the absence of the floating pustule, would opt for the small hole in the wall with the best food in town? Or would they just go across the way to somewhere equally flashy and pointless, because they're idiotic tourists?

How many tourists really travel for the food anyway? Aren't most family vacations more about doing generic 'stuff'? Seeing stuff, doing stuff, 'making memories', 'having adventures' and so on? How impressed is your neighbor going to be that you traveled to new york and had the worlds best corn fritters as voted by a handful of people who're rocket scientists in the corn fritter world but he's never hear of, vs...visiting the highly visible cook's eating joint with shiatty food?

I'll bear with you. I don't travel "for the food", but if I'm going to spend money in a random city, on vacation, in the age of The Internet, you're goddamn right I'm not going to go to anything I can get at home if I can help it. Whether I'm the mainstream or not, I don't know. In my (admittedly small) extended family, we're pretty evenly split between "being crazy excited we found a stupidly awesome Italian family place" and "hey, Olive Garden".

One of the best meals of my entire life was an Ethiopian place in Toronto that my friend and I went to because they were still open at 2 AM. We were the only ones who were speaking English in the joint (the other patrons knew it, and our waitress kinda did, but we were the only ones speaking English *to each other*). I didn't travel there for the food (or any reason other than "I need to get the f--k out of Michigan, it's spring break, any takers... Angela, you're down, sweet, let's go, Canada's better than Ohio or Illinois and we both gotta be back for work in 4 days), but it was awesome.

I'm with you. I don't travel just for the food, but I don't go eat at chain restaurants while I'm traveling (well, except ...

Why is it that people from Pennsylvania love shiatty food? I've worked with a lot of people from Pittsburgh and IUP. Anytime we go on travel, they always want to go to Chili's or Texas Roadhouse. Any mention of a non-chain restaurant and they get this offended look on their faces as if I just slapped their mother in the face.

I hate it, I don't want to eat at chains, even when I show them reviews of places, they ignore them for the chain. I wouldn't mind if I had the option of eating somewhere else, but when you have to share a car, or worry about being seen as a team player, you don't really get a choice.


Don't know about Pittsburgh, but my guess as far as my eastern Pennsylvania relatives go is that in rural/small town PA, there aren't really any chain restaurants, so making a trek to Olive Garden is a change in pace from the diners and down home cooking places. I don't know how to explain my relatives coming to Florida and refusing to eat anywhere other than the bad facsimile of Pennsylvania Dutch places though. I think anything more "exotic" than Olive Garden scares them.
 
2012-09-30 02:40:25 PM

rynthetyn: \Girion47: rynthetyn: StreetlightInTheGhetto: kroonermanblack: I mean, are the people flocking to places like this really the types who, in the absence of the floating pustule, would opt for the small hole in the wall with the best food in town? Or would they just go across the way to somewhere equally flashy and pointless, because they're idiotic tourists?

How many tourists really travel for the food anyway? Aren't most family vacations more about doing generic 'stuff'? Seeing stuff, doing stuff, 'making memories', 'having adventures' and so on? How impressed is your neighbor going to be that you traveled to new york and had the worlds best corn fritters as voted by a handful of people who're rocket scientists in the corn fritter world but he's never hear of, vs...visiting the highly visible cook's eating joint with shiatty food?

I'll bear with you. I don't travel "for the food", but if I'm going to spend money in a random city, on vacation, in the age of The Internet, you're goddamn right I'm not going to go to anything I can get at home if I can help it. Whether I'm the mainstream or not, I don't know. In my (admittedly small) extended family, we're pretty evenly split between "being crazy excited we found a stupidly awesome Italian family place" and "hey, Olive Garden".

One of the best meals of my entire life was an Ethiopian place in Toronto that my friend and I went to because they were still open at 2 AM. We were the only ones who were speaking English in the joint (the other patrons knew it, and our waitress kinda did, but we were the only ones speaking English *to each other*). I didn't travel there for the food (or any reason other than "I need to get the f--k out of Michigan, it's spring break, any takers... Angela, you're down, sweet, let's go, Canada's better than Ohio or Illinois and we both gotta be back for work in 4 days), but it was awesome.

I'm with you. I don't travel just for the food, but I don't go eat at chain restaurants while I'm travel ...


shiat! I lived just outside Harrisburg for a few month, a while back, and damned if I can remember any chain besides Friendlys.
 
2012-09-30 03:05:41 PM

Bigedmond: Mrtraveler01: Arachnophobe: The fact that ESPN Zone is still in business is solid evidence of this.

Actually that went belly up a few years ago when the rest of the economy was tanking.

Not True, still one going strong in Vegas.

2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"... which Guy Fieri is not. Dude never went to culinary school, he's just a business owner who happens to know how to cook a few things.

Again, not true. He went to the cooking school at UNLV, a place he actual visits during one of the shows...


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Pssst.... hey... wanna see how easy it is to make you look like a dumbass?

Straight outta Wikipedia folks; "Although Fieri has no training as a chef, he worked at various restaurants during high school, and then went on to manage and own restaurants [...] Fieri attended the University of Nevada, Las Vegas and graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Hotel Management in 1990. 

Seriousy, if you can't take literally 5 seconds to verify your "facts" before posting, perhaps this internet thing is not for you.
 
2012-09-30 03:31:00 PM

stewbert: Bastinado: So there I am, shopping at Costco, looking for my usual giant glob of pre-marinated carne asada.

They don't have it. Instead, I see Guy Fieri's Carne Asada. How bad could it be, amirite?

Ugh. It tasted like it was marinated in those packets of Taco Bell sauce.

He's a farking hack.

This. Difficultly: My wife thought it was good.


You mean your EX-wife?
 
2012-09-30 04:29:12 PM

rynthetyn: \Girion47: rynthetyn: StreetlightInTheGhetto: kroonermanblack: I mean, are the people flocking to places like this really the types who, in the absence of the floating pustule, would opt for the small hole in the wall with the best food in town? Or would they just go across the way to somewhere equally flashy and pointless, because they're idiotic tourists?

How many tourists really travel for the food anyway? Aren't most family vacations more about doing generic 'stuff'? Seeing stuff, doing stuff, 'making memories', 'having adventures' and so on? How impressed is your neighbor going to be that you traveled to new york and had the worlds best corn fritters as voted by a handful of people who're rocket scientists in the corn fritter world but he's never hear of, vs...visiting the highly visible cook's eating joint with shiatty food?

I'll bear with you. I don't travel "for the food", but if I'm going to spend money in a random city, on vacation, in the age of The Internet, you're goddamn right I'm not going to go to anything I can get at home if I can help it. Whether I'm the mainstream or not, I don't know. In my (admittedly small) extended family, we're pretty evenly split between "being crazy excited we found a stupidly awesome Italian family place" and "hey, Olive Garden".

One of the best meals of my entire life was an Ethiopian place in Toronto that my friend and I went to because they were still open at 2 AM. We were the only ones who were speaking English in the joint (the other patrons knew it, and our waitress kinda did, but we were the only ones speaking English *to each other*). I didn't travel there for the food (or any reason other than "I need to get the f--k out of Michigan, it's spring break, any takers... Angela, you're down, sweet, let's go, Canada's better than Ohio or Illinois and we both gotta be back for work in 4 days), but it was awesome.

I'm with you. I don't travel just for the food, but I don't go eat at chain restaurants while I'm travel ...


I was going to call bullshiat on this but then realized I grew up outside of Philly, were there is a good food culture. Lots of chains but still lots of good local places too.

There's a LOT of PA that is rural/farmland, hence getting something like an olive garden is "special".

/I'm having a hankering for a hoagie, cheesesteak, and Chickie and Pete's mussels and white wine sauce.
//Dear Toronto, A cheesesteak is hot a hot roast beef sandwich with cheese
 
2012-09-30 04:55:22 PM

drewogatory: Soulcatcher: Drew made an unfortunate remark about glasses in another thread, but I think he has redeemed himself since.

I like him.

=]

Man, I'm never going to live that ill considered choice of words down am i? That'll teach me to nurse a vicious hangover by snarking on the internet, however. Now I just need to work on posting while still drunk.. :)


Hey, I'm not holding it against you. You apologized and blamed a hangover. I've done worse hungover.
 
2012-09-30 05:52:16 PM

Soulcatcher: Cuervo in the AM is not a good life choice


Jose is terrible
 
2012-09-30 07:34:53 PM
Celebrity cooks are the most useless people on earth.

/that's right, cooks
 
2012-09-30 11:41:00 PM
THERE IS ONLY ONE CELEBRITY CHEF WHO MATTERS!

wjrt.images.worldnow.com


/Well, him and Rachel Ray, because she's kinda cute in that TV person kind of way.
 
2012-09-30 11:50:07 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: fark Bourdain. I'm not a huge Guy Fieri fan, but from the few episodes of Diners Drive-Ins and Dives I've seen, he comes across as an enthusiastic foodie, not some self-important douche who truest to turn street food into a deep philosophical meditation like Bourdain.


My personal issue with Fieri (and others like him), is his shows are more about giving free TV commercials for certain places than showing an honest experience. Has he ever taken a bite of something and said "yeah, that tastes off" or "the seasoning on this is a bit weak", etc? Its just not possible to eat 5,000 items and never have a negative comment to say.

Bourdain will not give praise where it does not belong. see the Romania episode.

Then again I just hate all things New York.

Seems to be the pattern. People who cant handle NY also cant handle Bourdain.
 
2012-10-01 10:59:14 AM

LemSkroob: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: fark Bourdain. I'm not a huge Guy Fieri fan, but from the few episodes of Diners Drive-Ins and Dives I've seen, he comes across as an enthusiastic foodie, not some self-important douche who truest to turn street food into a deep philosophical meditation like Bourdain.

My personal issue with Fieri (and others like him), is his shows are more about giving free TV commercials for certain places than showing an honest experience. Has he ever taken a bite of something and said "yeah, that tastes off" or "the seasoning on this is a bit weak", etc? Its just not possible to eat 5,000 items and never have a negative comment to say.

Bourdain will not give praise where it does not belong. see the Romania episode.

Then again I just hate all things New York.

Seems to be the pattern. People who cant handle NY also cant handle Bourdain.


I used to hate NYC, then I partied in the East Village for a weekend and it completely changed my mind about the place.
 
2012-10-01 03:06:22 PM
At least Guy Fieri doesn't bone dudes up the crapper like that Frugal gourmet guy.
 
2012-10-01 06:47:14 PM

Girion47: I used to hate NYC, then I partied in the East Village for a weekend and it completely changed my mind about the place.


That is what my friends call 'the New York Moment'.

NY near the City, and NYC itself is unique and as many people have noted, is not known for being nice, safe or cuddly. NYC seems to introduce itself at its worst, hitting you over the head with rude, usually mixed in with a slight dose of disorientation.

I can't explain it, it's just how the place works. Once the wave of ooof passes, if you're still open to it, something awesome usually happens, something that makes a great memory. NYC is very much a sour patch kid. Bitter at first, then quite enjoyable.

Like many things, it either clicks with you, or it doesn't. AB is very much a New Yorker, and the attitude he radiates is that of most NYers. You either get rage-faced from it and then you leave, or you realize it for what it is, and have fun with the ride.
 
2012-10-02 01:18:47 AM

Gosling: Bigedmond: Bourdian's hate for Food Network personalities is starting to come off as jealousy, not genuine critic of their food. I was with him completely about Paula Deen, but this one seems forced so he can try and stay relevant since Travel Channel canceled both of his shows.

He's off the Travel Channel because CNN snapped him up to do essentially No Reservations: CNN Edition.


Not exclusively, though.
 
2012-10-02 11:26:04 AM

Hebalo: 2words1finger: I love AB, the guy pulls no punches with these celeb "chefs"

Ummm, isn't Bourdain exactly that?


He doesn't cook on his show.
 
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