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2012-09-29 03:44:11 PM  
It's the only NBC show I look forward to watching.
 
2012-09-29 03:45:30 PM  

Apos: It's the only NBC show I look forward to watching.


Yep. It's the only NBC show I currently have on my DVR.
 
2012-09-29 04:14:03 PM  
Even though Grimm is on NBC and Once Upon a Time is on ABC, I would like to see a crossover.
 
2012-09-29 04:18:02 PM  
Could it be that FINALLY people are getting tired of yet another show about farking lawyers? Get rid of the doctors and cops and maybe TV will be worth watching.

....well after and the reality tv and game shows are gone of course.
 
2012-09-29 05:09:22 PM  

Mugato: Could it be that FINALLY people are getting tired of yet another show about farking lawyers? Get rid of the doctors and cops and maybe TV will be worth watching.

....well after and the reality tv and game shows are gone of course.


I love lawyer shows. Lawyers are really interesting people.
 
2012-09-29 05:18:39 PM  

RexTalionis: Mugato: Could it be that FINALLY people are getting tired of yet another show about farking lawyers? Get rid of the doctors and cops and maybe TV will be worth watching.

....well after and the reality tv and game shows are gone of course.

I love lawyer shows. Lawyers are really interesting people.


If you say so.
 
2012-09-29 05:22:57 PM  
Haven't seen it yet, but Last Resort was really good. I hope they can keep it going.
 
2012-09-29 05:32:05 PM  
I'm so glad Hank is in on everything now. Nick having to hide everything from him was getting old. But they need to do something with Juliette. Turn her evil, kill her, whatever. Her character was more interesting when she was in a coma.


cameroncrazy1984: Apos: It's the only NBC show I look forward to watching.

Yep. It's the only NBC show I currently have on my DVR.


Same here. At least until Community comes back.


Mugato: Could it be that FINALLY people are getting tired of yet another show about farking lawyers? Get rid of the doctors and cops and maybe TV will be worth watching.

....well after and the reality tv and game shows are gone of course.


Um... doesn't Grimm sorta qualify as a cop show?
 
2012-09-29 05:35:48 PM  
And before anyone says it, yes I realize Last Resort is not an NBC show.

Revolution is an interesting concept that will fail miserably.
 
2012-09-29 05:42:07 PM  
NBC already planning the double-spinoff next season Law & Order:Grimminal Intent.
 
2012-09-29 05:42:22 PM  

fusillade762: Mugato: Could it be that FINALLY people are getting tired of yet another show about farking lawyers? Get rid of the doctors and cops and maybe TV will be worth watching.

....well after and the reality tv and game shows are gone of course.

Um... doesn't Grimm sorta qualify as a cop show?


Technically I suppose but it's not the "let's analyze the DNA we found on the semen we collected after enhancing the resolution on the zoomed in image from the traffic cam and match that with the face recognition software from our worldwide database" procedural cop show horsehit. Or at least it's a variation on it.
 
2012-09-29 05:46:39 PM  

bdub77: And before anyone says it, yes I realize Last Resort is not an NBC show.

Revolution is an interesting concept that will fail miserably.


Last Resort is surprisingly good. The concept is so strong that even major network generic meddling couldn't kill it. Revolution is better than that Land of the Lost reboot thing Spielberg tried.
 
2012-09-29 06:16:07 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: NBC already planning the double-spinoff next season Law & Order:Grimminal Intent.


Hah!
 
2012-09-29 06:57:25 PM  
Since Friday nights are usually where networks put successful shows to go and die, I wonder how they will try to kill Grimm off? Maybe move it to Sunday afternoons opposite football?

/CNBC would be another likely choice
 
2012-09-29 06:58:39 PM  
The werewolf guy? Very funny character.
 
2012-09-29 07:08:35 PM  
"I'm so glad Hank is in on everything now. Nick having to hide everything from him was getting old. But they need to do something with Juliette. Turn her evil, kill her, whatever. Her character was more interesting when she was in a coma."

No shiat, I was hoping they would do with her as they did with Hank. They've now had 5 episodes with her "acting" even more clueless than before... She's a total waste, at this point.
 
2012-09-29 07:09:31 PM  
Love Grimm. Would love to see what the writers could do with it on HBO or Showtime, though. Take the training wheels off and let the twisted sickness fly. You can tell they want to.
 
2012-09-29 07:13:56 PM  

bdub77: Haven't seen it yet, but Last Resort was really good. I hope they can keep it going.


Last Resort is off to a good start. It seems like a great one-season show. I know it's still really early, but I don't know if I see several seasons out of it.

Revolution is a good premise that just wasn't that interesting in execution. It will meet the same fate as FlashForward and The Event.
 
2012-09-29 07:27:42 PM  

NeoCortex42: Revolution is a good premise that just wasn't that interesting in execution. It will meet the same fate as FlashForward and The Event


I agree with this. All of the characters are cardboard cutouts so far. Though I did like Uncle Miles calling her out on her hyper-familial attitude.
 
2012-09-29 07:30:35 PM  
Grimm must have improved because I watched the first eight or so episodes last year and thought it sucked major ass. Bad acting, stupid stories, horrible effects.

Are you people suggesting it is worth revisiting?
 
2012-09-29 07:37:11 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Grimm must have improved because I watched the first eight or so episodes last year and thought it sucked major ass. Bad acting, stupid stories, horrible effects.

Are you people suggesting it is worth revisiting?


This. I gave it an honest go, it just got too ridiculous.
 
2012-09-29 07:41:13 PM  
Ah, I remember Homicide: LIfe on the Street. That was a great show. Probably warped my prepubescent mind a little, but man, when it was good, it was good, and when it was great, it was unlike anything else on TV at the time.
 
2012-09-29 07:44:28 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: NeoCortex42: Revolution is a good premise that just wasn't that interesting in execution. It will meet the same fate as FlashForward and The Event

I agree with this. All of the characters are cardboard cutouts so far. Though I did like Uncle Miles calling her out on her hyper-familial attitude.


I gave the pilot a shot, but I made a promise to myself before watching it. If this episode ends with some mysterious person turning on a lightbulb, I'm done.

If it gets renewed for a second season and has good reviews after the first one, I might give it another shot.
 
2012-09-29 07:44:31 PM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: AdolfOliverPanties: Grimm must have improved because I watched the first eight or so episodes last year and thought it sucked major ass. Bad acting, stupid stories, horrible effects.

Are you people suggesting it is worth revisiting?

This. I gave it an honest go, it just got too ridiculous.


It's not good when a show about fairy tale creatures and a magical policeman is too implausible.
 
2012-09-29 07:46:38 PM  

sage37: "I'm so glad Hank is in on everything now. Nick having to hide everything from him was getting old. But they need to do something with Juliette. Turn her evil, kill her, whatever. Her character was more interesting when she was in a coma."

No shiat, I was hoping they would do with her as they did with Hank. They've now had 5 episodes with her "acting" even more clueless than before... She's a total waste, at this point.


I don't see any real chemistry between her and Nick, anyway.
 
2012-09-29 07:52:57 PM  
That show farking sucks.
 
2012-09-29 08:09:49 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Grimm must have improved because I watched the first eight or so episodes last year and thought it sucked major ass. Bad acting, stupid stories, horrible effects.

Are you people suggesting it is worth revisiting?


I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this. I gave it a go because I like fairy tales. Could not care less about this show, and each episode just seemed the same as the last with a slight shift in the baddie of the week.

/stopped watching when the 'reaper' showed up
 
2012-09-29 08:12:36 PM  
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Did you see something?
 
2012-09-29 08:17:28 PM  

NeoCortex42: cameroncrazy1984: NeoCortex42: Revolution is a good premise that just wasn't that interesting in execution. It will meet the same fate as FlashForward and The Event

I agree with this. All of the characters are cardboard cutouts so far. Though I did like Uncle Miles calling her out on her hyper-familial attitude.

I gave the pilot a shot, but I made a promise to myself before watching it. If this episode ends with some mysterious person turning on a lightbulb, I'm done.

If it gets renewed for a second season and has good reviews after the first one, I might give it another shot.


The ending of the pilot was annoying for any number of reasons. I said I'd give it one or two more episodes, tops. I gave V way too much time because of Morena Baccarin.

I agree about characters on Revolution sucking, though. I don't know if it's acting, script, or direction, but it always looks like they cast a bunch of people who otherwise look attractive but can't act worth a damn. Last Resort, for example, you've got people who are actually interesting characters, several who are very good veteran actors...and it comes off professional. Revolution, there's only one person I like on the show, maybe one other decent actor, and they kill at least one person who can act to start while sparing the supermodel looking actors who can't pull their weight in a scene (no pun intended).

I get the feeling a lot of these shows want to be Lost (ooooh it's all a mystery!!) but the truth is, you shouldn't spend a whole season or more hiding whatever Illuminati are behind the scenes. Just get to it, show both sides of the story.
 
2012-09-29 08:19:27 PM  

RivenSilver: That show farking sucks.


You probably shouldn't watch it then.
 
2012-09-29 08:38:21 PM  

fusillade762:
cameroncrazy1984: Apos: It's the only NBC show I look forward to watching.

Yep. It's the only NBC show I currently have on my DVR.

Same here. At least until Community comes back.


This. Hopefully, the good ratings from Grimm help Community. Isn't Grimm supposed to air right after it?

The only thing that worries me about that Friday night schedule is having Whitney be the first show in the block. I can see that farking with the ratings.
 
2012-09-29 09:14:18 PM  
I tried to get into it but was too sanitized for my tastes. Seemed like a decent show to watch with slightly older kids, though.
 
2012-09-29 09:29:47 PM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: AdolfOliverPanties: Grimm must have improved because I watched the first eight or so episodes last year and thought it sucked major ass. Bad acting, stupid stories, horrible effects.

Are you people suggesting it is worth revisiting?

This. I gave it an honest go, it just got too ridiculous.


I think it's fun. Monroe is an awesome character. I guess I'm also a bit biased because I live in Portland and I enjoy location spotting.


NeoCortex42: bdub77: Haven't seen it yet, but Last Resort was really good. I hope they can keep it going.

Last Resort is off to a good start. It seems like a great one-season show. I know it's still really early, but I don't know if I see several seasons out of it.

Revolution is a good premise that just wasn't that interesting in execution. It will meet the same fate as FlashForward and The Event.


Serialized dramas are always tricky. Since Lost went off the air I think the only other one that's really lasted is Fringe.


Allansfirebird: fusillade762:
cameroncrazy1984: Apos: It's the only NBC show I look forward to watching.

Yep. It's the only NBC show I currently have on my DVR.

Same here. At least until Community comes back.

This. Hopefully, the good ratings from Grimm help Community. Isn't Grimm supposed to air right after it?

The only thing that worries me about that Friday night schedule is having Whitney be the first show in the block. I can see that farking with the ratings.


Yegads! Seriously? We're doomed! DOOOOOOMED!!!
 
2012-09-29 09:30:10 PM  
I liked it better when it was called Supernatural. We've already had a monster-of-the-week show, we can try something else now. I have a friend who's a forensic technician, and some of the stuff he's done sounds pretty cool. Maybe they could make a show based off of his stories.
 
2012-09-29 09:54:50 PM  

bdub77: Haven't seen it yet, but Last Resort was really good. I hope they can keep it going.


I have to ask about the logistics of 'not having seen something' and yet declaring it 'really good'?

As for Grimm: coworker loves it, but we have wildly diverging tastes (almost universally everything I like he hates, everything he likes I hate). I picked up a single episode somewhere in the middle of the first season (hey, I don't have cable (please don't hipster me, it's 100$ a month and fark that internet's free) so I was watching at someone else's house), and it wasn't the best show in the world, but it wasn't offensively terrible either. I could see the characters getting a bit tiresome though.

And don't kill all the procedurals! Leave 1 or 2, prefferably the ones that aren't 'raping science with a dinocock' bad. I like some criminal procedurals for the few times I get TV access.
 
2012-09-29 09:59:46 PM  

kroonermanblack: bdub77: Haven't seen it yet, but Last Resort was really good. I hope they can keep it going.

I have to ask about the logistics of 'not having seen something' and yet declaring it 'really good'?


The 'it' being Grimm and not Last Resort :)
 
2012-09-29 10:02:13 PM  
That's bold talk, subby. Homicide was one of the last good shows on TV.
 
2012-09-29 10:15:56 PM  

Howie Spankowitz: Love Grimm. Would love to see what the writers could do with it on HBO or Showtime, though. Take the training wheels off and let the twisted sickness fly. You can tell they want to.


I agree. The show's been getting better as it goes along but I sometimes wonder how twisted they could make things if it ran on a cable channel.

Does anyone else think David Giuntoli (the actor who plays the lead - Nick Burckhardt) would also make a good Clark Kent?
 
2012-09-29 10:19:50 PM  

kroonermanblack: I could see the characters getting a bit tiresome though.


Surprisingly, they're alright. The tiresome bit as that the writers feel the need to invent a whole new species of critter for every episode, and don't really go in depth about most of them. Too much freak of the week.
 
2012-09-29 10:30:56 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Grimm must have improved because I watched the first eight or so episodes last year and thought it sucked major ass. Bad acting, stupid stories, horrible effects.

Are you people suggesting it is worth revisiting?


It got marginally better over the rest of the season, but I still wouldn't call it a good show. It's good for a Friday night show, but that's about it.

Once Upon a Time, however, is just shiat. shiat shiat shiat.
 
2012-09-29 10:37:33 PM  

bdub77: And before anyone says it, yes I realize Last Resort is not an NBC show.

Revolution is an interesting concept that will fail miserably.


Last Resort is only good if you've never been a hundred feet near a military base. Otherwise, you would be going, "Oh, come on, really?" every five minutes.

/did that
//still liked it though...
///ponytails on subs
 
2012-09-29 11:03:38 PM  

RexTalionis: Ah, I remember Homicide: LIfe on the Street. That was a great show. Probably warped my prepubescent mind a little, but man, when it was good, it was good, and when it was great, it was unlike anything else on TV at the time.


I watched "Homicide" here and there when it was originally on and in reruns. Then about 10 years later, on the recommendation of a friend, I picked up the book on which it was based, by a cops reporter at The Sun named David Simon.

Yes, that David Simon. The same friend recommended "The Wire" to me, so I watched it.

And then, shortly after that, I saw "Homicide" reruns on TV again. It was so weird. it was like a PG-13 version of "The Wire." I saw a lot of the same actors, a lot of the recurring themes and even some of the jokes (the colander and copy machine used as a lie detector).
 
2012-09-29 11:07:46 PM  
Grimm is spectacular. One of only 3 shows I watch on NBC.
 
2012-09-29 11:08:59 PM  
I've often wondered if the 'furry' community gets their rocks off watching 'Grimm'.

/ Wife's favorite show.
 
2012-09-29 11:10:41 PM  
Did anyone else notice that Buffy seemed to have bigger boobs in the early episodes?
 
2012-09-29 11:13:04 PM  

RexTalionis: Ah, I remember Homicide: LIfe on the Street. That was a great show. Probably warped my prepubescent mind a little, but man, when it was good, it was good, and when it was great, it was unlike anything else on TV at the time.


Homicide really was high quality TV. And no one ever did black comedy as well as Homicide. Holy crap, they would be in the middle of a city wide red ball, the shiat hitting the fan and lives on the line, and Yaphet Kotto's character would be delivering deadpan lines about "there being jelly donuts in the building". dammit I loved that show.

the actor that plays Michael Westen in 'Burn Notice' was in an all time classic 'Homicide' episode. crap on a cracker, i really do have to buy the farking Box Set.

Andre Braugher - one of the most under-rated actors on TV, is in a new series this fall. excellent.
 
2012-09-29 11:34:39 PM  

RexTalionis: Mugato: Could it be that FINALLY people are getting tired of yet another show about farking lawyers? Get rid of the doctors and cops and maybe TV will be worth watching.

....well after and the reality tv and game shows are gone of course.

I love lawyer shows. Lawyers are really interesting people.


Monsters are very interesting people. They must have such interesting lives.
 
2012-09-30 12:22:42 AM  

PackerWacker: Does anyone else think David Giuntoli (the actor who plays the lead - Nick Burckhardt) would also make a good Clark Kent?


I've thought since day one that he looked a LOT like Brandon Routh. So yeah.
 
2012-09-30 12:42:35 AM  
Finally NBC got a clue not to air a reality show or a Law & Order spinoff.
 
2012-09-30 12:52:49 AM  
If ratings meant a show were worth watching, the various CSIs would be masterpieces.
 
2012-09-30 12:57:21 AM  

mat catastrophe: That's bold talk, subby. Homicide was one of the last first good shows on TV.


FTFY

Well, one of the first good dramas anyway.
 
2012-09-30 01:12:49 AM  

Archimedes' Principal: I've often wondered if the 'furry' community gets their rocks off watching 'Grimm'.

/ Wife's favorite show.


So, what's your wife in to?
 
2012-09-30 01:28:38 AM  
loves me some grimm. compared to the typical rubbish on television, it's a gem
 
2012-09-30 01:30:17 AM  
Grimm is probably the most disappointing show I ever once looked forward to watching.
 
2012-09-30 02:06:47 AM  
I can't explain the power of Grimm. It's ridiculous and mediocre, not to mention offensively eurowhite-centric, and the highly implausible romantic subplot intended to lure female viewers fills me with ennui, and then there's the whole furry thing to be dealt with... and yet I watch it.

/Julia Child once admitted that her favorite guilty pleasure was McDonald's fries, so I suppose none of us is immune to the insidious lure of junk, whether it be food, entertainment, or otherwise.
 
2012-09-30 02:58:56 AM  
I would like to see an episode with a bird on it, and call it art.
 
2012-09-30 03:06:52 AM  
This last episode sucked pretty bad, but Grimm has generally been getting better and despite its many imperfections I do find myself looking forward to it because it has so many great world building possibilities.

However, as about everyone who has ever watched Grimm agrees, the chemistry between Nick and Juliet is just terrible and needs to stop.

And for the LOVE OF GOD *spoiler alert* PLEASE do not let the kiss flashback the Captain just had mean he is falling for her. Sasha Roiz is very hot to me, but I will die inside if they try to pair him with her, even if it means we'd get to see him shirtless again. I imagine even if he brings some energy to the table any romantic scenes between them would be like watching a man get all hot and bothered and slobbering all over this giant mackerel. A cold, wet, dead mackerel. Do. Not. Want. At least Juliet and Nick seem to share a similar sort of romantic anti-charisma that makes them a better pairing.
 
2012-09-30 03:07:33 AM  
I sat next to David Giuntoli on the plane from LAX to PDX two weeks ago. He's actually a really nice guy. Grimm is a fun show and I wish the cast the best. The stunt director (who was nominated for an Emmy) lives in my building.

/CSB
 
2012-09-30 05:24:52 AM  

whither_apophis: Monsters are very interesting people. They must have such interesting lives.


i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-30 07:31:10 AM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: AdolfOliverPanties: Grimm must have improved because I watched the first eight or so episodes last year and thought it sucked major ass. Bad acting, stupid stories, horrible effects.

Are you people suggesting it is worth revisiting?

This. I gave it an honest go, it just got too ridiculous.


it's improved and they're starting to work in longer story-archs, but it still has a ways to go. It's not bad, but the really positive vibe towards the show in this thread is kind of odd. I'm not sure if the show will ever really find its footing, but it may be on its way.
 
2012-09-30 07:43:04 AM  
as the ratings continually prove

TFA says the show is down 24% in the ratings from last year's series premiere; it is only up from its Monday night runs. Though I do think inexplicably moving it to Monday after a relatively short summer break was an odd move.
 
2012-09-30 07:51:25 AM  

Lsherm: AdolfOliverPanties: Grimm must have improved because I watched the first eight or so episodes last year and thought it sucked major ass. Bad acting, stupid stories, horrible effects.

Are you people suggesting it is worth revisiting?

It got marginally better over the rest of the season, but I still wouldn't call it a good show. It's good for a Friday night show, but that's about it.

Once Upon a Time, however, is just shiat. shiat shiat shiat.


I.. I like Disney Princesses: The Series. It's like a call back to old school prime time soap operas, the continuity is surprisingly tight and well done, no one is completely pure or completely evil, it doesn't suffer from the lewdness which marred 10th Kingdom, it doesn't take itself too seriously.. but it also doesn't root around in wink-wink-nudge-nudge-i'm-too-cool-for-this snarky self-awareness, either.

The lead actresses are all 50 pretending to be late 20s, early 30s (except Ruby/Red) -- but I don't care.

For fans, there are genuinely moving moments.

Emma's a coont, though. But that's alright. Very few of the noble in Fairy Tale Land end up being noble in The World Without Magic, which I guess is it's own aesop.
 
2012-09-30 08:44:15 AM  
My wife and I enjoy show, but feel that they should have the main character being more of a badass and participating in more Grimm-ly activity.

More Wesen, less whodunit cop procedural.
 
2012-09-30 09:40:45 AM  
I love Grimm. It has a campiness similar to Doctor Who. It isn't as good as DW, but it is still pretty amusing.
 
2012-09-30 10:41:00 AM  

PackerWacker: Howie Spankowitz: Love Grimm. Would love to see what the writers could do with it on HBO or Showtime, though. Take the training wheels off and let the twisted sickness fly. You can tell they want to.

I agree. The show's been getting better as it goes along but I sometimes wonder how twisted they could make things if it ran on a cable channel.

Does anyone else think David Giuntoli (the actor who plays the lead - Nick Burckhardt) would also make a good Clark Kent?


Absolutely, although he doesn't appear to be muscular enough (or even tall enough) to pull off Superman, though.
 
2012-09-30 12:00:24 PM  

fusillade762: I'm so glad Hank is in on everything now. Nick having to hide everything from him was getting old. But they need to do something with Juliette. Turn her evil, kill her, whatever. Her character was more interesting when she was in a coma.


I haven't decided if she's just one of the worst actresses to have ever existed or if she's just plain retarded. There must have been come nepotism involved in the casting choice or she gives really good blowjobs (just don't look down at her derpy eyes).
 
2012-09-30 12:55:59 PM  
Yes and I'm sure that NBC will continue to treat it as well as they did Homicide.

That said I've seen all of Season 1 and the premiere of Season 2. (The rest of Season 2 is tucked away on my PVR to watch when I finish my current PD course.) Without being spoliery can someone tell me if Nick's mom has been written out/off the show? I don't need her dead or anything, just...elsewhere. The first episode of this season just seemed too crowded with her there, I know that there was a lot to do in the first episode but it just didn't feel the same.
 
2012-09-30 01:10:29 PM  
I'm always impressed at the creative ways they come up with to kill the poor victim of the week. Eaten alive by rats, burned by a hot dragon biatch, crazy Vessen zombie virus, black-widow sex killer, etc etc. The most recent 'dropped into a wood mulcher' was pretty nasty.

I want his TARDIS trailer though. Totally bigger on the inside.

/Monroe FTW
 
2012-09-30 01:10:43 PM  

ReluctantPaladin: Yes and I'm sure that NBC will continue to treat it as well as they did Homicide.

That said I've seen all of Season 1 and the premiere of Season 2. (The rest of Season 2 is tucked away on my PVR to watch when I finish my current PD course.) Without being spoliery can someone tell me if Nick's mom has been written out/off the show? I don't need her dead or anything, just...elsewhere. The first episode of this season just seemed too crowded with her there, I know that there was a lot to do in the first episode but it just didn't feel the same.


She isn't around anymore.
 
2012-09-30 03:20:04 PM  

ReluctantPaladin: Without being spoliery can someone tell me if Nick's mom has been written out/off the show? .


She'll be back eventually but she's not a regular.
 
2012-09-30 04:47:40 PM  
I'd make a crack about the shiatty budgets and poor special effects of Grimm, but I'm an avid Supernatural viewer so I can't.
 
2012-09-30 11:05:21 PM  
I stopped watching 5 or 6 episodes in to the first season.... nothing seemed to be developing really... seemed to be becoming uninterestingly repetative. Then I ran out of other shows to watch and started it up again where I left off... and it REALLY picks up in the second half of the first season. I can't really pin-point what the differnce was... the main guy got a little more bad-ass.. and the wolf sidekick guy got a lot more funny and engaging. It was just better.

Second seasons started off well too. 

The fact that it seemed so much better once I retried even led me to try Once Upon A Time again.... but that remained shiat.
 
2012-10-01 02:46:25 AM  

ambercat: Roiz is very hot to me, but I will die inside if they try to pair him with her, even if it means we'd get to see him shirtless again.


I read an interview with one of the creators the other day. He as much as promised we'd get to see Roiz with his shirt off again this season.

And I couldn't figure out where I recognized him from until I looked it up. He played Bill Adama's uncle on "Caprica".

static.tvguide.com

You're welcome ;)
 
2012-10-01 03:44:45 PM  

kroonermanblack: I picked up a single episode somewhere in the middle of the first season (hey, I don't have cable (please don't hipster me, it's 100$ a month and fark that internet's free) so I was watching at someone else's house)


Amazingly the "Internet" has non-US based websites that stream (show without a discrete download) whole series of US licensed shows. All for free I hear too.
 
2012-10-02 02:49:45 AM  
Grimm is entertaining in part because of the bits that are WTF bad (the monsters' CGI effects being the biggest of these) but it's also got some great elements, not to exclude Monroe who is the real star of the show, a dimensionally transcendental trailer full of 10th-19th Century Unitasker Superweapons for every occasion, Nick's ninja crusader badass mom, Rosalee who makes becoming a furry seem a plausible option, Captain/Prince Renard who may or may not be almost entirely evil or a secret flawed hero, Portland - land of the weird (and also Leverage), Sgt. Wu who apparently is one of two uniformed cops in all of Portland to not have the longevity of redshirted fruit flies versus an Orkin Dalek, the Pokemon-meets-Buffy angle of the monster-of-the-week, and Monroe (again ...because he's just that good).

Once Upon A Time is not shiat. It is just a smidge too Disney (because ABC is Disney), especially now with the Mad Hatter, Wonderland, Captain Hook and Mulan showing up. This does not negate the wicked hotness of Lana Parilla or the joyful, scenery-noshing evil of Rumpelstiltskin, however. There's a Dark Shadows (original series) kind of appeal there, but with MUCH better production and effects quality.
 
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