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(Today)   Twenty-five years ago today, Captain Jean-Luc Picard and the crew of the USS Enterprise 1701-D boldly went where no one had gone before. Here are the 7 best episodes of the series that will undoubtedly differ from yours. Where's Rascals?   (theclicker.today.com) divider line 226
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2012-09-29 05:52:33 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: buntz: Oh, and that one time Worf's son played a cowboy

Hey, that one was awesome.


Tough call : Alexander as an annoying lil' pardner versus Data spitting into a potted plant and calling his cat a "varmint".

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Then there's Worf's reaction to the Data-faced saloon madam coming after him in the end.
 
2012-09-29 05:53:20 PM  

BumpInTheNight: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x244]
That is all.


Ah, brings me back to my teen years...how I wanted that woman. Troi that is...though truth be told might have fapped to Crusher too...
 
2012-09-29 05:55:25 PM  

Sultan Of Herf: Ah, brings me back to my teen years...how I wanted that woman. Troi that is...though truth be told might have fapped to Crusher too...


I got her autographed at a convention when I was a kid. I couldn't afford the in color "Pretty" Troi glossy so I picked the black & white "hair in a bun" Troi.

She wrote "Kind regards" on it.
 
2012-09-29 05:55:32 PM  

Mugato: DamnYankees: My top seven, off the top of my head:

7) ...All Good Things
6) Darmok
5) Yesterday's Enterprise
4) Cause and Effect
3) Tapestry
2) The Inner Light
1) The Defector

I can be argued.


Pretty good list. Except Darmok. That episode just didn't make any sense at all. A lot of correspondence with my friends are just references to pop culture too but they're still eventually rooted in regular language.


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"Shaka, when the walls fell."
 
2012-09-29 05:55:50 PM  
10) Rascals
9) All Good Things...
8) Redemption I & II
7) Ensign Ro
6) Face of the Enemy
5) Darmok
4) The Inner Light
3) Disaster
2) Chain of Command
1) Yesterday's Enterprise
 
2012-09-29 05:57:34 PM  
Honestly, a great list.

But I think Darmak should be on it. I
 
2012-09-29 05:57:57 PM  

Sultan Of Herf: BumpInTheNight: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x244]
That is all.

Ah, brings me back to my teen years...how I wanted that woman. Troi that is...though truth be told might have fapped to Crusher too...


I remember fapping to Troi a bit in my preteen/early teens. The formfitting outfits and cleavage was more than enough to get my already raging hormones flowing.
 
2012-09-29 05:58:22 PM  
TNG hasn't aged well
 
2012-09-29 05:58:37 PM  

FunkOut: The All-Powerful Atheismo: buntz: Oh, and that one time Worf's son played a cowboy

Hey, that one was awesome.

Tough call : Alexander as an annoying lil' pardner versus Data spitting into a potted plant and calling his cat a "varmint".

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Then there's Worf's reaction to the Data-faced saloon madam coming after him in the end.


Don't forget Riker rehearsing for a play and instead reciting Ode to Spot
 
2012-09-29 05:59:10 PM  

LeafyGreens: TNG hasn't aged well


A lot of that is the spandex.
 
2012-09-29 06:00:13 PM  
Measure of a Man was brilliant. When Picard was trying to figure out how to make his case, and you the viewer is agonizing over how he was going to succeed, and he's sitting there talking to Guinan, and she says, almost casually, "Every civilization has its throwaway race..."

and it hits you, like Colonel Kurtze's "diamond bullet to the forehead" that what was really at stake here was Starfleet was actually, though inadvertently, about to invent a slave race. That was a mindblowing moment, and instantly crystallized the entire episode.
 
2012-09-29 06:00:55 PM  
Phantasms: fun weird episode that doesn't really rise far above the median quality of the series. If you need a mind-fark episode to cover all the bases with the list, I'd swap in Parallels or the one with Riker in the alien lunatic asylum.

And Best of Both Worlds is television's greatest CLIFFHANGER, but Part II doesn't sustain the unbelievable tension that's set up. Pretty standard sneak-aboard-and-get-him-back resolution.
 
2012-09-29 06:01:50 PM  

FunkOut: LeafyGreens: TNG hasn't aged well

A lot of that is the spandex.


The effects are aging poorly. But the blu-ray release has fully updated effects. They've done a wonderful job on Season 1, just like they did when they put TOS on blu-ray.
 
2012-09-29 06:02:44 PM  

timharrod: And Best of Both Worlds is television's greatest CLIFFHANGER, but Part II doesn't sustain the unbelievable tension that's set up. Pretty standard sneak-aboard-and-get-him-back resolution.


The Borg were awful from the beginning and even worse in Voyager.
 
2012-09-29 06:09:26 PM  

The English Major:
The Borg were awful from the beginning


Deep thoughts by TEM
 
2012-09-29 06:09:50 PM  
Even though Yesterday's Enterprise is cool, Best of Both Wolrds is better and There are Four Lights! is good too.
 
2012-09-29 06:16:48 PM  

FunkOut: LeafyGreens: TNG hasn't aged well

A lot of that is the spandex.


And the early-season appearance of skants.
 
2012-09-29 06:17:18 PM  

Mugato: NeoCortex42: Best part of "Best of Both Worlds" is that nobody expected a cliffhanger going into it, and it wasn't a sure thing that Picard would even be returning in the Fall.

What he said. This was before every episode of the series teased with the "Who is going to die this week???" thing. There was little in the way of the Internet but still there were communities on Prodigy and what not where people really were talking about they were going to kill off Picard. When Picard, now a Borg drone was going on about how resistance is futile and Riker said, "Mr. Worf...fire" it was farking bad ass.

The Best of Both Worlds also made the Borg a truly scary villain. Up until then the concept of the Borg assimilating other species wasn't brought up. The fact that you and your entire civilization wouldn't be killed but rather turned into mindless drones was farked up. 

/then Seven of Nine made the Borg hot.
//well the Borg Queen was kind of hot too


Well, as I remember it at the time, contract negotiations with Patrick Stewart weren't going particularly well and it did look like he might leave the show. So it was one of the few cliffhangers where you thought it might actually be possible that they kill the character in question.
 
2012-09-29 06:17:35 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: The English Major:
The Borg were awful from the beginning

Deep thoughts by TEM


I think the Borg were the best possible villains in the Trek universe. Sure, they can't be bargained with or reasoned with, we've seen that before. But they didn't just want to destroy you, they want to enslave you, turn you into them. That's both our biggest fear and at the same time, something that can be turned around on us. Like the guy in DS9 who joined the Maqui and compared the Federation to the Borg.
 
2012-09-29 06:17:58 PM  

Mr. Potatoass: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x305]

What about the one with all of the drunken space micks?


Not quite as offensive as the Space Africans.

But close.
 
2012-09-29 06:18:11 PM  

FunkOut: [media.tumblr.com image 234x350]


Holy shiat, that deer in the headlights look on Troi is priceless. The episode's worth it for that alone.
 
2012-09-29 06:19:34 PM  

The English Major: timharrod: And Best of Both Worlds is television's greatest CLIFFHANGER, but Part II doesn't sustain the unbelievable tension that's set up. Pretty standard sneak-aboard-and-get-him-back resolution.

The Borg were awful from the beginning and even worse in Voyager.


The dragon worm from season 2 of DSV was a far scarier villian.
 
2012-09-29 06:19:42 PM  

NeoCortex42: Mr. Potatoass: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x305]

What about the one with all of the drunken space micks?

Not quite as offensive as the Space Africans.

But close.


I don't know, I think the Space Jews/Ferengi were also pretty bad.
 
2012-09-29 06:19:59 PM  

Mugato: The All-Powerful Atheismo: The English Major:
The Borg were awful from the beginning

Deep thoughts by TEM

I think the Borg were the best possible villains in the Trek universe. Sure, they can't be bargained with or reasoned with, we've seen that before. But they didn't just want to destroy you, they want to enslave you, turn you into them. That's both our biggest fear and at the same time, something that can be turned around on us. Like the guy in DS9 who joined the Maqui and compared the Federation to the Borg.


Also, Quark's speech about Root Beer.
 
2012-09-29 06:20:21 PM  

Mugato: The All-Powerful Atheismo: The English Major:
The Borg were awful from the beginning

Deep thoughts by TEM

I think the Borg were the best possible villains in the Trek universe. Sure, they can't be bargained with or reasoned with, we've seen that before. But they didn't just want to destroy you, they want to enslave you, turn you into them. That's both our biggest fear and at the same time, something that can be turned around on us. Like the guy in DS9 who joined the Maqui and compared the Federation to the Borg.


Voyager screwed them up, but the Borg WERE awesome.

I think Trek needed another villain that wasn't mindless like the Borg, but was more human, and pure evil.
 
2012-09-29 06:21:22 PM  

Bored Horde: NeoCortex42: Mr. Potatoass: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x305]

What about the one with all of the drunken space micks?

Not quite as offensive as the Space Africans.

But close.

I don't know, I think the Space Jews/Ferengi were also pretty bad.


They at least got redeemed a lot over the course of DS9.
 
2012-09-29 06:21:32 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mugato: The All-Powerful Atheismo: The English Major:
The Borg were awful from the beginning

Deep thoughts by TEM

I think the Borg were the best possible villains in the Trek universe. Sure, they can't be bargained with or reasoned with, we've seen that before. But they didn't just want to destroy you, they want to enslave you, turn you into them. That's both our biggest fear and at the same time, something that can be turned around on us. Like the guy in DS9 who joined the Maqui and compared the Federation to the Borg.

Voyager screwed them up, but the Borg WERE awesome.

I think Trek needed another villain that wasn't mindless like the Borg, but was more human, and pure evil.


Lore?
 
2012-09-29 06:21:53 PM  
Why does no one else ever mention The Defector besides me? I even put it #1 on my list and no one commented, yet NO ONE ever puts it on any lists. I'm confused by the world around me.
 
2012-09-29 06:22:28 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: I think Trek needed another villain that wasn't mindless like the Borg, but was more human, and pure evil.


Tomalok?
 
2012-09-29 06:22:31 PM  

BumpInTheNight: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mugato: The All-Powerful Atheismo: The English Major:
The Borg were awful from the beginning

Deep thoughts by TEM

I think the Borg were the best possible villains in the Trek universe. Sure, they can't be bargained with or reasoned with, we've seen that before. But they didn't just want to destroy you, they want to enslave you, turn you into them. That's both our biggest fear and at the same time, something that can be turned around on us. Like the guy in DS9 who joined the Maqui and compared the Federation to the Borg.

Voyager screwed them up, but the Borg WERE awesome.

I think Trek needed another villain that wasn't mindless like the Borg, but was more human, and pure evil.

Lore?


No I mean a race. Lore, as evil as he was, was little more than a nuisance threatening just the ship. I mean in more of a DS9 context, an entire race of evil that actually threatened the whole federation; like the founders, but worse.
 
2012-09-29 06:23:06 PM  

DamnYankees: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I think Trek needed another villain that wasn't mindless like the Borg, but was more human, and pure evil.

Tomalok?


Tomalok wasn't evil, just partisan.
 
2012-09-29 06:23:31 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: I think Trek needed another villain that wasn't mindless like the Borg, but was more human, and pure evil.


They tried with the Cardassians on TNG, but that was set up for the (much better) Deep Space Nine, which was able to give their primary villains (Cardassians, then the Dominion) a chance to grow along with the characters. And originally, the Borg weren't going to be the "continued menace" that plagued Picard, it was going to be the mutated Trill symbiont parasites from season one.

The most menacing thing the Borg ever did was Wolf 359; by the time Descent rolled around they'd become sort of laughable.
 
2012-09-29 06:23:40 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: BumpInTheNight: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mugato: The All-Powerful Atheismo: The English Major:
The Borg were awful from the beginning

Deep thoughts by TEM

I think the Borg were the best possible villains in the Trek universe. Sure, they can't be bargained with or reasoned with, we've seen that before. But they didn't just want to destroy you, they want to enslave you, turn you into them. That's both our biggest fear and at the same time, something that can be turned around on us. Like the guy in DS9 who joined the Maqui and compared the Federation to the Borg.

Voyager screwed them up, but the Borg WERE awesome.

I think Trek needed another villain that wasn't mindless like the Borg, but was more human, and pure evil.

Lore?

No I mean a race. Lore, as evil as he was, was little more than a nuisance threatening just the ship. I mean in more of a DS9 context, an entire race of evil that actually threatened the whole federation; like the founders, but worse.


The writers from season 1?
 
2012-09-29 06:24:13 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: DamnYankees: The All-Powerful Atheismo: I think Trek needed another villain that wasn't mindless like the Borg, but was more human, and pure evil.

Tomalok?

Tomalok wasn't evil, just partisan.


That was one thing about TNG: not enough Romulans.
 
2012-09-29 06:24:18 PM  

DamnYankees: Why does no one else ever mention The Defector besides me? I even put it #1 on my list and no one commented, yet NO ONE ever puts it on any lists. I'm confused by the world around me.


Because Admiral Jarok was an idiot, he deserved to get caught.
 
2012-09-29 06:24:54 PM  

BumpInTheNight: The All-Powerful Atheismo: BumpInTheNight: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mugato: The All-Powerful Atheismo: The English Major:
The Borg were awful from the beginning

Deep thoughts by TEM

I think the Borg were the best possible villains in the Trek universe. Sure, they can't be bargained with or reasoned with, we've seen that before. But they didn't just want to destroy you, they want to enslave you, turn you into them. That's both our biggest fear and at the same time, something that can be turned around on us. Like the guy in DS9 who joined the Maqui and compared the Federation to the Borg.

Voyager screwed them up, but the Borg WERE awesome.

I think Trek needed another villain that wasn't mindless like the Borg, but was more human, and pure evil.

Lore?

No I mean a race. Lore, as evil as he was, was little more than a nuisance threatening just the ship. I mean in more of a DS9 context, an entire race of evil that actually threatened the whole federation; like the founders, but worse.

The writers from season 1?


Oh burn.
 
2012-09-29 06:25:28 PM  

Bored Horde: NeoCortex42: Mr. Potatoass: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x305]

What about the one with all of the drunken space micks?

Not quite as offensive as the Space Africans.

But close.

I don't know, I think the Space Jews/Ferengi were also pretty bad.


I always viewed them as Saudis.
 
2012-09-29 06:26:03 PM  

FunkOut: Bored Horde: NeoCortex42: Mr. Potatoass: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x305]

What about the one with all of the drunken space micks?

Not quite as offensive as the Space Africans.

But close.

I don't know, I think the Space Jews/Ferengi were also pretty bad.

I always viewed them as Saudis.


Racist.
 
2012-09-29 06:29:19 PM  

FunkOut: Bored Horde: NeoCortex42: Mr. Potatoass: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x305]

What about the one with all of the drunken space micks?

Not quite as offensive as the Space Africans.

But close.

I don't know, I think the Space Jews/Ferengi were also pretty bad.

I always viewed them as Saudis.


"In the Star Trek universe, the Ferengi are the most human people out there. Because the human people in the Star Trek universe are much more evolved than we are. The Ferengi aren't." (Robert Hewitt Wolfe and Ira Behr were always insistent they modeled the DS9 Ferengi on 20th century humanity, especially Americans)
 
2012-09-29 06:29:59 PM  
 
2012-09-29 06:30:37 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Voyager screwed them up, but the Borg WERE awesome.

I think Trek needed another villain that wasn't mindless like the Borg, but was more human, and pure evil.


I think the Borg were screwed up starting with "I, Borg". Picard could have destroyed them for good and he and even Guinen decided not to. That was just bad writing and Picard should have been court martial-ed.

The Borg weren't mindless at all and they were very human, that's what made them scary villains.
 
2012-09-29 06:31:00 PM  

Mugato: There should be a "worst of" list too.


Any episode with Q or Troi's mother.
 
2012-09-29 06:32:45 PM  

Mugato:
I think the Borg were screwed up starting with "I, Borg". Picard could have destroyed them for good and he and even Guinen decided not to. That was just bad writing and Picard should have been court martial-ed.


What the hell is wrong with you?
 
2012-09-29 06:34:18 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: FunkOut: Bored Horde: NeoCortex42: Mr. Potatoass: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x305]

What about the one with all of the drunken space micks?

Not quite as offensive as the Space Africans.

But close.

I don't know, I think the Space Jews/Ferengi were also pretty bad.

I always viewed them as Saudis.

Racist.


The Bajorans were the Jews and the Cardassians were the Germans.
 
2012-09-29 06:34:30 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: No I mean a race. Lore, as evil as he was, was little more than a nuisance threatening just the ship. I mean in more of a DS9 context, an entire race of evil that actually threatened the whole federation; like the founders, but worse.


You mean like the Shadows and the Drakh?
 
2012-09-29 06:35:34 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mugato:
I think the Borg were screwed up starting with "I, Borg". Picard could have destroyed them for good and he and even Guinen decided not to. That was just bad writing and Picard should have been court martial-ed.

What the hell is wrong with you?


I'm with Mugato.
 
2012-09-29 06:36:22 PM  

PacManDreaming: The All-Powerful Atheismo: No I mean a race. Lore, as evil as he was, was little more than a nuisance threatening just the ship. I mean in more of a DS9 context, an entire race of evil that actually threatened the whole federation; like the founders, but worse.

You mean like the Shadows and the Drakh?


Yes, like those races from that DS9 knockoff show.
 
2012-09-29 06:37:05 PM  

DamnYankees: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mugato:
I think the Borg were screwed up starting with "I, Borg". Picard could have destroyed them for good and he and even Guinen decided not to. That was just bad writing and Picard should have been court martial-ed.

What the hell is wrong with you?

I'm with Mugato.


go watch Measure of a Man again.

fark, go watch all of Star Trek pre-DS9 again.
 
2012-09-29 06:37:41 PM  

KingoftheCheese:
The Bajorans were the Jews and the Cardassians were the Germans.


THE BAJORANS ARE THE JEWS FOR GUL DUKAT'S OVENS
 
2012-09-29 06:38:00 PM  

DamnYankees: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Mugato:
I think the Borg were screwed up starting with "I, Borg". Picard could have destroyed them for good and he and even Guinen decided not to. That was just bad writing and Picard should have been court martial-ed.

What the hell is wrong with you?

I'm with Mugato.


That's probably why Nechayev sent him to that secret mission to count lights, as revenge for his idiocy in I, Borg. Which was basically contradicted by that awful First Contact movie.
 
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