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(Chicago Trib)   Upcoming voting in Arkansas could make them the first state in the South to legalize medical marijuana, although lawmakers expect stiff ballot opposition from the rum runner and moonshine lobbies   (articles.chicagotribune.com) divider line 83
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2012-09-29 12:53:14 PM

JolobinSmokin: Wouldn't be surprised I it doesn't pass 49-51, NW Arkansas is the hippy and SWSEArkansas is Mississippi.



SW Arkansas is Texas and NE Arkansas is sparsely populated.

FTFM
 
2012-09-29 01:04:56 PM
I signed the petition for it several months ago and i'll be voting for it in Nov.
 
2012-09-29 01:26:29 PM
I'm really surprsed that more republican-controlled swing states don't pull this kind of stunt to try anx get their voters to show up to oppose it. I guess there's always a chance that this would also get the stoners out to vote, but since they wake up after the polls close, I can't imagine that would be much to worry about.
 
2012-09-29 01:36:14 PM
We still have dry counties in Arkansas, just got a scholarship lottery 4 years ago, and have repeatedly voted down allowing full-fledged gambling in our state despite the massive amount of money Arkansans pump into Oklahoma and Texas straight through their casinos.

I am less than optimistic.
 
2012-09-29 01:46:58 PM
...lawmakers expect stiff ballot opposition from John Lee Pettimore, his daddy, and his daddy before

fixed
 
2012-09-29 01:56:02 PM
Most moonshiners have no problem cultivating a bit of MJ.
 
2012-09-29 01:56:59 PM

snowshovel: I'm really surprsed that more republican-controlled swing states don't pull this kind of stunt to try anx get their voters to show up to oppose it. I guess there's always a chance that this would also get the stoners out to vote, but since they wake up after the polls close, I can't imagine that would be much to worry about.


Actually, that would be brilliant. Covertly getting bills like this on the ballot so their base will show up? I gotta call Karl...
 
2012-09-29 02:03:58 PM

lantawa: Well, opposition from the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, fer shure.



There are dry counties in Arkansas. It's those country mega-church pastors keeping their counties alcohol-free that probably pose more of a threat to this passing than the alcohol lobbyists. Amusing to see them both on the same side fighting against the evil marijuana!
 
2012-09-29 02:07:30 PM
I don't understand why tobacco companies would be afraid of marijuana legalization. It's a whole new market for them, and who is better poised to take advantage of it? You already have the infrastructure in place, from the agriculture resources to the sales people. And with the PR beating cigarettes have taken for the past couple of decades, you could launch a whole new product that actually HAS real medical uses for you to tout.
 
2012-09-29 02:14:35 PM

Pappas: We still have dry counties in Arkansas, just got a scholarship lottery 4 years ago, and have repeatedly voted down allowing full-fledged gambling in our state despite the massive amount of money Arkansans pump into Oklahoma and Texas straight through their casinos.

I am less than optimistic.


I am intrigued....where are these TX casinos?
 
2012-09-29 02:22:09 PM
It'll never happen. I lived in Arkansas for a few years (*shudder*) and the cops there are the most ruthless relentless cops when it comes to weed. There's lots of bud to be had there though, but the general population is so Jesused out that it'll never fly.
 
2012-09-29 02:24:04 PM
Here are the Dry Counties in Arkansas.

www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net

Good luck with your initiative. But don't get your hopes up.
 
2012-09-29 02:26:39 PM
Tunica,MS has happily taken quite a bit of cash from me that would otherwise have been spent in state (AR). But as usual the xtian fundies fought it "fer jesus!"
 
2012-09-29 03:03:16 PM

Pappas: We still have dry counties in Arkansas, just got a scholarship lottery 4 years ago, and have repeatedly voted down allowing full-fledged gambling in our state despite the massive amount of money Arkansans pump into Oklahoma and Texas straight through their casinos.

I am less than optimistic.


That's fine. Keep sending your overpriced weed money to Colorado. Things are picking up here!
 
2012-09-29 03:03:25 PM

Glicky: What? You don't understand the concept of a stalking horse?

//Not high right now. Maybe later...


izit.org
 
2012-09-29 03:17:26 PM

sugardave: Pappas: We still have dry counties in Arkansas, just got a scholarship lottery 4 years ago, and have repeatedly voted down allowing full-fledged gambling in our state despite the massive amount of money Arkansans pump into Oklahoma and Texas straight through their casinos.
I am less than optimistic.
I am intrigued....where are these TX casinos?


Mississippi. Thinking Tunica and typed Texas.
 
2012-09-29 03:20:23 PM

Pappas: sugardave: Pappas: We still have dry counties in Arkansas, just got a scholarship lottery 4 years ago, and have repeatedly voted down allowing full-fledged gambling in our state despite the massive amount of money Arkansans pump into Oklahoma and Texas straight through their casinos.
I am less than optimistic.
I am intrigued....where are these TX casinos?

Mississippi. Thinking Tunica and typed Texas.


DAMMIT, I am ready for some casinos to open in TX. Stupid GOP and selective morality enforcement....
 
2012-09-29 03:21:14 PM
hmm...

i512.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-29 03:51:42 PM
Utah was the first state to outlaw pot, anywhere, ever, in 1914: http://tinyurl.com/1mn

/fyi
//it's a war on minorities to replace outlawed slave labor with prison labor
 
2012-09-29 04:09:11 PM
jigger: Here are the Dry Counties in Arkansas.

what a sad state
 
2012-09-29 04:17:11 PM

Empty Matchbook: My favorite part of the debate in California this last election was all the BS hippies suddenly finding their inner-capitalist and opposing legalization so that their dispensaries wouldn't have to compete with 711. Suddenly it's less about "Like, helping people and sticking it to the MAN" and more about "Fourth quarter projections look abysmal if this thing passes..."


your perception seems cartoonish. can you draw well?
 
2012-09-29 04:59:20 PM

ultraholland: jigger: Here are the Dry Counties in Arkansas.

what a sad state


Really.
The left coast laughs at your state.
 
2012-09-29 05:39:26 PM

jigger: Here are the Dry Counties in Arkansas.

[www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net image 759x648]

Good luck with your initiative. But don't get your hopes up.


It's easy. Wet, dry, smoky, wet-dry, wet-smoky, dry-smoky, and wet-dry-smoky. It'll sink in after a few puffs of swampgrass and a swig of still drippins.
 
2012-09-29 06:04:49 PM

Empty Matchbook: Suddenly it's less about "Like, helping people and sticking it to the MAN" and more about "Fourth quarter projections look abysmal if this thing passes..."


I just think people here in CA are fine with the current model. Not sure I want corporations or the govt being the main weed suppliers, I prefer the cannabis club growers and hippies.
 
2012-09-29 06:29:15 PM
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2012-09-29 08:28:22 PM

Krymson Tyde: Yeah, go Arkansas! The rest of us are pulling for you just this once.


Begun again, the rum wars have.
 
2012-09-29 08:38:24 PM
@AbbeySomeone
ultraholland: jigger: Here are the Dry Counties in Arkansas.
what a sad state
Really.
The left coast laughs at your state.


Don't laugh at us. We are backward, but we have a balanced budget unlike some left coast areas that have a $16BN shortfall in their budget and have to lay off state workers. Us backwards states decided that if you don't have the money don't spend it.

Medical marijuana really doesn't have a hope of passing here right now, but getting it on the ballet gives me hope for the future. Someday Arkansas will join the 21st century, probably about the time everyone else is in the 22nd century.
 
2012-09-29 08:42:30 PM
This would actually be the perfect time for such a grass roots campaign. A bulk of the money is going to be going for national and state races so an issue ballot might slide under the radar.
I would think anyway.

Hypnozombie
 
2012-09-29 09:19:30 PM

kerryjsmith1: @AbbeySomeone
ultraholland: jigger: Here are the Dry Counties in Arkansas.
what a sad state
Really.
The left coast laughs at your state.

Don't laugh at us. We are backward, but we have a balanced budget unlike some left coast areas that have a $16BN shortfall in their budget and have to lay off state workers. Us backwards states decided that if you don't have the money don't spend it.

Medical marijuana really doesn't have a hope of passing here right now, but getting it on the ballet gives me hope for the future. Someday Arkansas will join the 21st century, probably about the time everyone else is in the 22nd century.


You have a balanced budget because you're getting all that federal aid from California, ya hillbillies!
 
2012-09-29 09:45:31 PM

justtray: The marjiuana suppliers are some of the biggest opponents to full legalization.

The reason is simple, money. Currently they charge black market, or just below black market prices, and with the current incredibly low risk in states with medical marijuana dispensories, the result is a cash windfall. The last thing they want is for full legalization to occur and huge compeition to get into the market, crashing the price and profitability.


So true. Prices were all over the place in California. Now that medicinal marijuana is here prices have stabilized. Also, the grade is higher and more reliable even if you go black market.
 
2012-09-30 07:13:13 AM

kerryjsmith1: @AbbeySomeone
ultraholland: jigger: Here are the Dry Counties in Arkansas.
what a sad state
Really.
The left coast laughs at your state.

Don't laugh at us. We are backward, but we have a balanced budget unlike some left coast areas that have a $16BN shortfall in their budget and have to lay off state workers. Us backwards states decided that if you don't have the money don't spend it.

Medical marijuana really doesn't have a hope of passing here right now, but getting it on the ballet gives me hope for the future. Someday Arkansas will join the 21st century, probably about the time everyone else is in the 22nd century.


Great, so can we now keep our federal tax dollars instead of sending them all to you?
 
2012-09-30 02:17:23 PM
I find it funny how republicans are all about keeping government out of their businesses and freedoms. But when the marijuana topics comes up, they are all 'omg we need government to stop these people from enjoying their freedoms'
 
2012-09-30 08:13:23 PM

TheJoe03: Empty Matchbook: Suddenly it's less about "Like, helping people and sticking it to the MAN" and more about "Fourth quarter projections look abysmal if this thing passes..."

I just think people here in CA are fine with the current model. Not sure I want corporations or the govt being the main weed suppliers, I prefer the cannabis club growers and hippies.


A couple of the interviewees literally said that it would kill their bottom-line, but I take your meaning. And it's not like it'd just GO AWAY, if the government put out an inferior product, there'd be plenty of room for both. And it'd stop federal raids and job drug testing BS.
 
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