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(Chicago Trib)   Upcoming voting in Arkansas could make them the first state in the South to legalize medical marijuana, although lawmakers expect stiff ballot opposition from the rum runner and moonshine lobbies   (articles.chicagotribune.com) divider line 83
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2012-09-29 07:55:22 AM  
Yeah, go Arkansas! The rest of us are pulling for you just this once.
 
2012-09-29 09:22:57 AM  
Well, opposition from the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, fer shure.
 
2012-09-29 10:42:32 AM  
I'll take ways to make Arkansas even fatter for $500, Alex.
 
2012-09-29 10:54:30 AM  
legalize toilet wine

RLOVEUTION
 
2012-09-29 11:00:37 AM  
Don't forget the law enforcement lobbies, those helicopters and attack dogs don't grow on trees.
 
2012-09-29 11:13:53 AM  
Don't count out the hippies in Fayetteville. Go Arkansas go!
 
2012-09-29 11:13:53 AM  
How can you people support letting that poison into our society?

The original proponents of criminalization claimed that marijuana use would lead to jazz music and interracial relationships--and it did!!!

And society has hardly recovered.
 
2012-09-29 11:14:10 AM  
Medical marijuana is a stalking horse for general legalization. I don't mind that but let's clear on the ultimate intent.

//Has a med card...
 
2012-09-29 11:18:25 AM  

Glicky: Medical marijuana is a stalking horse for general legalization. I don't mind that but let's clear on the ultimate intent.

//Has a med card...


Stalking horse?
Are you high right now?
 
2012-09-29 11:21:09 AM  

bwilson27: Glicky: Medical marijuana is a stalking horse for general legalization. I don't mind that but let's clear on the ultimate intent.

//Has a med card...

Stalking horse?
Are you high right now?


What? You don't understand the concept of a stalking horse?

//Not high right now. Maybe later...
 
2012-09-29 11:21:32 AM  
A cut off the Meth industry at the knees? I think not!
 
2012-09-29 11:22:28 AM  

Glicky: Medical marijuana is a stalking horse for general legalization. I don't mind that but let's clear on the ultimate intent.

//Has a med card...


Yep. If common sense had a role in governance, we wouldn't need to do this. But when opponents cite, "MARIJUANA IS A DANGEROUS DRUG THAT RUINS THE LIVES OF EVERYONE IT TOUCHES!!!!", we have to collect data on its side-effects [and lack thereof] from somewhere.

In a few years, the lack of cancer patients addicted to jazz music can be used as evidence for further decriminalization. There will be an entire pool of patients for medical professionals to draw data from.
 
2012-09-29 11:26:56 AM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Don't count out the hippies in Fayetteville. Go Arkansas go!


It's been decriminalized in a few communities. Fayetteville and Eureka Springs come to mind. It could happen.
 
2012-09-29 11:27:51 AM  

lantawa: Well, opposition from the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, fer shure.


and pharmaceutical companies
 
2012-09-29 11:28:35 AM  
I'm guessing it ain't gonna pass.
 
2012-09-29 11:37:12 AM  
"If I understand what I think I understand about it, if it passes, it's going to require a whole lot of administration from the health department," Beebe told reporters Thursday. "I don't know where we're going to get it from."

taxes from the sales?
 
2012-09-29 11:40:56 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Yeah, go Arkansas! The rest of us are pulling for you just this once.


No. Grow up and realise this is NEVER going to happen.

Why are you wasting taxpayers' money on this, Arkansas? I thought you were more intelligent than that.
 
2012-09-29 11:44:20 AM  

Rueened: Krymson Tyde: Yeah, go Arkansas! The rest of us are pulling for you just this once.

No. Grow up and realise this is NEVER going to happen.

Why are you wasting taxpayers' money on this, Arkansas? I thought you were more intelligent than that.


if they tax it properly it should net the state a profit. and create jobs.
 
2012-09-29 11:48:10 AM  

Hobodeluxe: "If I understand what I think I understand about it, if it passes, it's going to require a whole lot of administration from the health department," Beebe told reporters Thursday. "I don't know where we're going to get it from."

taxes from the sales?


The money saved not waging war on pot?
 
2012-09-29 11:53:06 AM  
[spliffy] tag.
 
2012-09-29 11:53:27 AM  
Came for Copperhead Road, leaving disappointed
 
2012-09-29 11:54:23 AM  
The marjiuana suppliers are some of the biggest opponents to full legalization.

The reason is simple, money. Currently they charge black market, or just below black market prices, and with the current incredibly low risk in states with medical marijuana dispensories, the result is a cash windfall. The last thing they want is for full legalization to occur and huge compeition to get into the market, crashing the price and profitability.
 
2012-09-29 11:54:52 AM  

Hobodeluxe: Rueened: Krymson Tyde: Yeah, go Arkansas! The rest of us are pulling for you just this once.

No. Grow up and realise this is NEVER going to happen.

Why are you wasting taxpayers' money on this, Arkansas? I thought you were more intelligent than that.

if they tax it properly it should net the state a profit. and create jobs.


Still doesn't make it right. I thought that would be obvious.
 
2012-09-29 11:57:42 AM  

Hobodeluxe: lantawa: Well, opposition from the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, fer shure.

and pharmaceutical companies


Actually, I'd think pharmaceuticals should jump on weed once it's legalized: they'd be able market their own, then.
 
2012-09-29 12:00:15 PM  
As mentioned above, it will never happen in the south. Too many police retirements are based on the drug war continuing.
 
2012-09-29 12:00:37 PM  

Rueened: Hobodeluxe: Rueened: Krymson Tyde: Yeah, go Arkansas! The rest of us are pulling for you just this once.

No. Grow up and realise this is NEVER going to happen.

Why are you wasting taxpayers' money on this, Arkansas? I thought you were more intelligent than that.

if they tax it properly it should net the state a profit. and create jobs.

Still doesn't make it right. I thought that would be obvious.


So what about it is wrong?
 
2012-09-29 12:00:41 PM  

Rueened: Hobodeluxe: Rueened: Krymson Tyde: Yeah, go Arkansas! The rest of us are pulling for you just this once.

No. Grow up and realise this is NEVER going to happen.

Why are you wasting taxpayers' money on this, Arkansas? I thought you were more intelligent than that.

if they tax it properly it should net the state a profit. and create jobs.

Still doesn't make it right. I thought that would be obvious.


Sorry, why isn't it right? Remember to be specific.
 
2012-09-29 12:01:45 PM  

friday13: Hobodeluxe: lantawa: Well, opposition from the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, fer shure.

and pharmaceutical companies

Actually, I'd think pharmaceuticals should jump on weed once it's legalized: they'd be able market their own, then.


They're not interested in a product that can be grown in your backyard with minimal effort
 
2012-09-29 12:01:49 PM  

rev. dave: As mentioned above, it will never happen in the south. Too many police retirements are based on the drug war continuing.


How is that different from anywhere else in the country?
 
2012-09-29 12:03:04 PM  

MFAWG: friday13: Hobodeluxe: lantawa: Well, opposition from the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, fer shure.

and pharmaceutical companies

Actually, I'd think pharmaceuticals should jump on weed once it's legalized: they'd be able market their own, then.

They're not interested in a product that can be grown in your backyard with minimal effort


They would just make a pill that is cheaper, stronger, and less invasive. Why do you think some home grower with his schwag would scare them?
 
2012-09-29 12:03:22 PM  

Rueened: Hobodeluxe: Rueened: Krymson Tyde: Yeah, go Arkansas! The rest of us are pulling for you just this once.

No. Grow up and realise this is NEVER going to happen.

Why are you wasting taxpayers' money on this, Arkansas? I thought you were more intelligent than that.

if they tax it properly it should net the state a profit. and create jobs.

Still doesn't make it right. I thought that would be obvious.


"Right" ? Define "right"
 
2012-09-29 12:04:32 PM  

MFAWG: friday13: Hobodeluxe: lantawa: Well, opposition from the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, fer shure.

and pharmaceutical companies

Actually, I'd think pharmaceuticals should jump on weed once it's legalized: they'd be able market their own, then.

They're not interested in a product that can be grown in your backyard with minimal effort


if anything the tobacco people should be interested in it
 
2012-09-29 12:07:50 PM  
Didn't the Supreme Court already rule that the federal ban on marijuana trumps any state's attempt to legalize it?
 
2012-09-29 12:08:01 PM  
I wonder what the former governor has to say about this? I wonder if he will inhale on this one.
 
2012-09-29 12:08:13 PM  

lantawa: Well, opposition from the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, fer shure.


And, if it goes anything like it did here in Cali, the police. Despite the fact that if you ask the average beat cop which they have more trouble with, drunks or stoners, I'm sure most would answer the former.
 
2012-09-29 12:08:48 PM  

justtray: The marjiuana suppliers are some of the biggest opponents to full legalization.

The reason is simple, money. Currently they charge black market, or just below black market prices, and with the current incredibly low risk in states with medical marijuana dispensories, the result is a cash windfall. The last thing they want is for full legalization to occur and huge compeition to get into the market, crashing the price and profitability.


A guy said about the same thing to me at a concert last month. Then he asked if I knew where to score some grass or buy a reefer cigarette.
 
2012-09-29 12:09:08 PM  

justtray: MFAWG: friday13: Hobodeluxe: lantawa: Well, opposition from the alcohol and tobacco lobbies, fer shure.

and pharmaceutical companies

Actually, I'd think pharmaceuticals should jump on weed once it's legalized: they'd be able market their own, then.

They're not interested in a product that can be grown in your backyard with minimal effort

They would just make a pill that is cheaper, stronger, and less invasive. Why do you think some home grower with his schwag would scare them?


Pretty much this.

Hobodeluxe: if anything the tobacco people should be interested in it


I forgot about those assholes, but this too.
 
2012-09-29 12:10:40 PM  
My favorite part of the debate in California this last election was all the BS hippies suddenly finding their inner-capitalist and opposing legalization so that their dispensaries wouldn't have to compete with 711. Suddenly it's less about "Like, helping people and sticking it to the MAN" and more about "Fourth quarter projections look abysmal if this thing passes..."
 
2012-09-29 12:12:24 PM  

rudemix: Then he asked if I knew where to score some grass or buy a reefer cigarette.


wow that guy must have been like 80 yrs old to use that ancient terminology.
 
2012-09-29 12:12:57 PM  

Rueened: Still doesn't make it right. I thought that would be obvious.


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2012-09-29 12:15:30 PM  
As an (well I hesitate to say "Arkansan", but I've lived here about 12 years now, so I guess it's apt), I am certainly happy to see this on the ballot, but I do not have much confidence on its passing. Think happy thoughts though, you never know.

The biggest weed development for me here is that high grade is finally relatively easy to find, after Mexican brick's decades of dominance. This hasn't happened all at once of course, and there has always been good weed here and there, but within the last 5 years or so, the shiat's everywhere.

/loads a bowl of Sour Diesel
 
2012-09-29 12:17:38 PM  

Xythero: Didn't the Supreme Court already rule that the federal ban on marijuana trumps any state's attempt to legalize it?


yes but if the DEA removes it from the schedule 1 narcotic list then there's nothing the courts or the cops can do if it's legalized.
 
2012-09-29 12:19:48 PM  
The Coalition to Preserve Arkansas Values filed suit in August to keep the measure off the ballot. The group argued that its title - the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act - was misleading and the proposal was hard to understand.

The group argued that its title - the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act - was misleading and the proposal was hard to understand

The group argued that its title - the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act - was misleading and the proposal was hard to understand

The group argued that its title - the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act - was misleading and the proposal was hard to understand

The group argued that its title - the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act - was misleading and the proposal was hard to understand
 
2012-09-29 12:26:45 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: The Coalition to Preserve Arkansas Values filed suit in August to keep the measure off the ballot. The group argued that its title - the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act - was misleading and the proposal was hard to understand.

The group argued that its title - the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act - was misleading and the proposal was hard to understand

The group argued that its title - the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act - was misleading and the proposal was hard to understand

The group argued that its title - the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act - was misleading and the proposal was hard to understand

The group argued that its title - the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act - was misleading and the proposal was hard to understand


yeah like their name isn't vague and misleading. what exactly is Arkansas Values? Some Arkansans value different things. Like liberty.
 
2012-09-29 12:28:59 PM  
I'll believe it when I see NASCAR races with bailing machines.
 
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2012-09-29 12:35:18 PM  

Hobodeluxe: is Arkansas Values?


Sharia, but with Jesus.
 
2012-09-29 12:43:58 PM  

Rueened: Why are you wasting taxpayers' money on this, Arkansas?


How much of the taxpayers' money are the currently wasting on enforcement?
 
2012-09-29 12:45:40 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: The group argued that its title - the Arkansas Medical Marijuana Act - was misleading and the proposal was hard to understand


Should have named it the "Patriotic Preservation of Crying Eagles and Yellow Ribbons Act".
 
2012-09-29 12:48:21 PM  

Hobodeluxe: if anything the tobacco people should be interested in it


For one thing, if it becomes legal to smoke marijuana, people will be able to sneak a little tobacco in here and there. Legal marijuana could be a backdoor for the re-legalization of smoking tobacco!
 
2012-09-29 12:51:27 PM  
Wouldn't be surprised I it doesn't pass 49-51, NW Arkansas is the hippy and SW Arkansas is Mississippi.
 
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