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kab
2012-09-29 10:30:02 AM
""We recognize this is difficult news for employees in Sacramento and South Plainfield," Campbell's President of North America, Mark Alexander, said in a statement. He then added "eh, who are we kidding? fark them, this will be great for my year end bonus."
 
2012-09-29 10:58:30 AM
FTA: Campbell Soup is also closing down its spice plant located in South Plainfield, N.J., which supplies ingredients to its U.S. thermal plants. Built in 1962, the facility employs 27 people.

The spice must flow.

FTA: It will close in March, at which time spice production will be moved to its larger Milwaukee plant.

Oh, good.
 
2012-09-29 11:01:09 AM
What happened, did Romney buy the factory?
 
2012-09-29 11:03:25 AM
Thus passes the last vestige of what gave Sacramento it's nickname, Sacratomato

/it really is the end of an era
 
2012-09-29 11:04:02 AM
Does this mean we get lead based Chinese soups?
 
2012-09-29 11:05:07 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Thus passes the last vestige of what gave Sacramento it's nickname, Sacratomato

/it really is the end of an era


I'm pretty sure if you drive out Davis way, you'll still find a tomato field or two.
 
2012-09-29 11:06:36 AM

TheGreatGazoo: Does this mean we get lead based Chinese soups?


Lead adds a nice sweetness.
 
2012-09-29 11:21:19 AM

Generation_D: What happened, did Romney buy the factory?


No, Obama took it over. Then gave them half a trillion dollars of taxpayer money to make soups no one wants and that are inefficient and unneeded.
 
2012-09-29 11:22:29 AM

drewogatory: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Thus passes the last vestige of what gave Sacramento it's nickname, Sacratomato

/it really is the end of an era

I'm pretty sure if you drive out Davis way, you'll still find a tomato field or two.


Oh, yeah... they're still grown around there, but Sacramento used to be a big processing center, with Libby's cannery in midtown, and Campbell's to the south. The streets and onramps used to be covered with tomatoes that had spilled off trucks this time of year.

/and when all of them were processing, and Wonder was baking bread, driving through town could make you really hungry
 
2012-09-29 11:23:25 AM

Generation_D: What happened, did Romney buy the factory?


That would be better then the Govt. stepping in and taking it over wasting billions on a business that will eventually go bankrupt anyway and screw the taxpayers.
 
2012-09-29 11:26:06 AM
Its production will be shifted to Campbell's remaining three thermal plants in Maxton, N.C., Napoleon, Ohio and Paris, Texas.

They didn't mention Marshall Michigan -- did they close that one already? I remember back when I was in the 'thermal' biz that plant was kind of hanging on by a thread, but they kept it around for relatively low volume new product introductions 'n stuff. The place was tiny compared to Napoleon and Maxton...
 
2012-09-29 11:26:50 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: drewogatory: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Thus passes the last vestige of what gave Sacramento it's nickname, Sacratomato

/it really is the end of an era

I'm pretty sure if you drive out Davis way, you'll still find a tomato field or two.

Oh, yeah... they're still grown around there, but Sacramento used to be a big processing center, with Libby's cannery in midtown, and Campbell's to the south. The streets and onramps used to be covered with tomatoes that had spilled off trucks this time of year.

/and when all of them were processing, and Wonder was baking bread, driving through town could make you really hungry


Hunts was in Davis as well. Took a nasty spill on my enduro one time 'cause of the tomato slime. I'll say, I don't miss all those goddamn flies that would show up about a week after harvest though. And Vacaville doesn't smell like onions anymore either.
 
2012-09-29 11:30:28 AM
Ah. Here's my answer.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2011/06/28/campbell-soup-to-close-michig a n -plant/ 

Too bad, they had some good people working at that place, I hope things have worked out well for them.
 
2012-09-29 11:32:06 AM

Generation_D: What happened, did Romney buy the factory?


No, but that won't stop the Obama campaign from making a weepy commercial blaming Romney for it.
 
2012-09-29 11:35:25 AM

drewogatory: Hunts was in Davis as well. Took a nasty spill on my enduro one time 'cause of the tomato slime. I'll say, I don't miss all those goddamn flies that would show up about a week after harvest though. And Vacaville doesn't smell like onions anymore either.


Is Hunt's gone now, too? I worked for the city a couple of years, but I haven't been there for quite a while. Woodland still had tomato piles on the onramps, though. And those damned flies

/I do miss that onion smell in Vacaville. Always made me crave a hamburger for some reason
 
2012-09-29 11:38:29 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: drewogatory: Hunts was in Davis as well. Took a nasty spill on my enduro one time 'cause of the tomato slime. I'll say, I don't miss all those goddamn flies that would show up about a week after harvest though. And Vacaville doesn't smell like onions anymore either.

Is Hunt's gone now, too? I worked for the city a couple of years, but I haven't been there for quite a while. Woodland still had tomato piles on the onramps, though. And those damned flies

/I do miss that onion smell in Vacaville. Always made me crave a hamburger for some reason


We'd always stop at George's Orange in Dixon. Those were some tasty burgers.
 
2012-09-29 11:43:05 AM
And the production will continue in the south where labor cost is cheaper.
 
2012-09-29 11:50:59 AM
Soup is good food, we don't need you anymore..
 
2012-09-29 12:08:16 PM

Elephantman: Generation_D: What happened, did Romney buy the factory?

That would be better then the Govt. stepping in and taking it over wasting billions on a business that will eventually go bankrupt anyway and screw the taxpayers.


Yeah, just like they did with bailing out Detroit.

Herp derp Solyndra!
 
2012-09-29 12:11:10 PM

Generation_D: What happened, did Romney buy the factory?


Yes, it must have been something like that. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with California treating business as something to be scraped from the bottom of one's shoe, starting to see its energy costs jump drastically due to its Global Warming Solutions Act, and aggressively pursuing new taxes on everything and everyone. Why you wouldn't want to modernize a plant under those conditions is a mystery.
 
2012-09-29 12:12:27 PM
FTA : we must optimize our U.S. plant network... diversify our manufacturing capabilities... improve our competitiveness... increase our asset utilization... lower our total delivered costs... enhance the flexibility of our manufacturing network

Soup is too complicated..
 
2012-09-29 12:20:22 PM
FTA: "As we position Campbell for profitable growth, we must continue to optimize our U.S. plant network and diversify our manufacturing capabilities," Alexander said. "We expect the steps we're announcing today to improve our competitiveness and performance by increasing our asset utilization, lowering our total delivered costs and enhancing the flexibility of our manufacturing network."


Translated: "You're all fired, and have a merry christmas. I'm going to the Cayman islands!"
 
2012-09-29 12:24:24 PM

jjorsett: Generation_D: What happened, did Romney buy the factory?

Yes, it must have been something like that. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with California treating business as something to be scraped from the bottom of one's shoe, starting to see its energy costs jump drastically due to its Global Warming Solutions Act, and aggressively pursuing new taxes on everything and everyone. Why you wouldn't want to modernize a plant under those conditions is a mystery.


It has to do with two things - the California plant being their oldest, and hence least efficient - and the drying up of their business. The basic soups that Campbell sells have fallen out of favor with younger consumers, and their sales numbers have been slowly but steadily slipping downward for years. They need to re-invent the brand, or abandon it, because it's relevance will die with the Boomers if they can't reboot it.
 
2012-09-29 12:44:36 PM
Fark the corporations and their cheap ass tasteless crap. I'm not giving them any of my money Harumph!

Hey why are they laying everyone off?
 
2012-09-29 12:57:13 PM

drewogatory: MaudlinMutantMollusk: drewogatory: Hunts was in Davis as well. Took a nasty spill on my enduro one time 'cause of the tomato slime. I'll say, I don't miss all those goddamn flies that would show up about a week after harvest though. And Vacaville doesn't smell like onions anymore either.

Is Hunt's gone now, too? I worked for the city a couple of years, but I haven't been there for quite a while. Woodland still had tomato piles on the onramps, though. And those damned flies

/I do miss that onion smell in Vacaville. Always made me crave a hamburger for some reason

We'd always stop at George's Orange in Dixon. Those were some tasty burgers.


Murder Burger.

I, too miss the onion smell when you'd drive by the fairgrounds in Vacaville. Also miss the Nut Tree. Wasn't there a Del Monte cannery in Sacramento, too? Seem to recall something around 16th and C or so...
 
2012-09-29 12:58:36 PM

Charlie Freak: Murder Burger


Before it changed hands the first time it was great. After that..meh. I worked at the bike shop across the street for years and years.
 
2012-09-29 01:00:40 PM

jjorsett: Generation_D: What happened, did Romney buy the factory?

Yes, it must have been something like that. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with California treating business as something to be scraped from the bottom of one's shoe, starting to see its energy costs jump drastically due to its Global Warming Solutions Act, and aggressively pursuing new taxes on everything and everyone. Why you wouldn't want to modernize a plant under those conditions is a mystery.


Not to interrupt your herp-a-derp but there is a rather large Campbell soup processing center not 20 miles down the road from the one that is closing. It was kind of redundant having those two so close, especially when the one in Dixon is getting capital improvements.
 
2012-09-29 01:02:20 PM
Subway also stopped carrying cambells as well, I wonder if that is related.
 
2012-09-29 01:03:29 PM
What exactly do they need that extra $30 million for? New boats at the end of the year for every stock holder?

It's cute that they think this won't bump them up the line of folks who will be put against the wall and shot.
 
2012-09-29 01:04:15 PM

jso2897: jjorsett: Generation_D: What happened, did Romney buy the factory?

Yes, it must have been something like that. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with California treating business as something to be scraped from the bottom of one's shoe, starting to see its energy costs jump drastically due to its Global Warming Solutions Act, and aggressively pursuing new taxes on everything and everyone. Why you wouldn't want to modernize a plant under those conditions is a mystery.

It has to do with two things - the California plant being their oldest, and hence least efficient - and the drying up of their business. The basic soups that Campbell sells have fallen out of favor with younger consumers, and their sales numbers have been slowly but steadily slipping downward for years. They need to re-invent the brand, or abandon it, because it's relevance will die with the Boomers if they can't reboot it.


Here's a pic of the Sacramento plant from philly.com's coverage of the story:

media.philly.com

That tall thing's a "Hydrostat", an old-fashioned but serviceable continuous sterilizer. Cans go in, they're subjected to heat and pressure, cans come out. Due to its construction it's only good for one exact size and shape of cylindrical metal container, in this case the one that's been Campbell's bread and butter for, like, ever.

Unless they also have some batch retorts or something that can sterilize pouches and plastic containers, in its present form the Sacramento plant's useless for producing anything else but those cans. It would be increasingly difficult for this plant to make a go of it if Campbell's making fewer and fewer of those every year.

There's also a third thing -- according to tfa and some others I found a little while ago when I was trying to find out what happened to their Marshall MI plant, they're relying increasingly on "co-packers". Industrial kitchens for hire, essentially.
 
2012-09-29 01:21:45 PM

phaseolus: Hydrostat



Looking closer at the photo there's two hydrostats. Each one of those is filled with water kept at approx. 250°F with heat continuously added to replace what's being absorbed by the room temperature cans filled with raw product. Next the cans are sprayed with (or maybe immersed in) chilled water to cool them back down to room temperature.

Imagine the energy it takes to keep those things going...
 
2012-09-29 01:26:21 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: What exactly do they need that extra $30 million for? New boats at the end of the year for every stock holder?

It's cute that they think this won't bump them up the line of folks who will be put against the wall and shot.


For 30mil they'd be hard pressed to give each shareholder a rubber boat for the bathtub

The purpose of a company is to make money for the shareholder. Finis
 
2012-09-29 01:28:17 PM

phaseolus: phaseolus: Hydrostat


Looking closer at the photo there's two hydrostats. Each one of those is filled with water kept at approx. 250°F with heat continuously added to replace what's being absorbed by the room temperature cans filled with raw product. Next the cans are sprayed with (or maybe immersed in) chilled water to cool them back down to room temperature.

Imagine the energy it takes to keep those things going...


They also made V8 juices and Prego sauces there

/nearly went to work there several years ago
 
2012-09-29 02:23:28 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: phaseolus: phaseolus: Hydrostat


Looking closer at the photo there's two hydrostats. Each one of those is filled with water kept at approx. 250°F with heat continuously added to replace what's being absorbed by the room temperature cans filled with raw product. Next the cans are sprayed with (or maybe immersed in) chilled water to cool them back down to room temperature.

Imagine the energy it takes to keep those things going...

They also made V8 juices and Prego sauces there

/nearly went to work there several years ago


Interesting, I wasn't aware of that... Those kinds of products aren't quite so energy intensive -- most of the Prego sauces are "high acid" and therefore unfriendly to C. botulinum, so I think they just fill the jars hot and slap the lid on and call it a day.

Knowing what you just told me, you'd almost think that with all the produce grown in CA and the nearby markets, it could make a go of it after all. Once upon a time I used to deal with Campbell corporate engineers who talked a lot about what was going on at other facilities and I never heard them mention the Sacramento plant, ever, so maybe that facility's sort of the redheaded stepchild. Or maybe it makes economic sense to consolidate the juice and Prego production in Paris TX where they've also been making it for a while.
 
2012-09-29 03:12:59 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: What exactly do they need that extra $30 million for? New boats at the end of the year for every stock holder?

It's cute that they think this won't bump them up the line of folks who will be put against the wall and shot.


Maybe you should start a non-profit soup company if it's so important to you that you wish for people to be murdered over it.
 
2012-09-29 04:22:01 PM

Charlie Freak: drewogatory: MaudlinMutantMollusk: drewogatory: Hunts was in Davis as well. Took a nasty spill on my enduro one time 'cause of the tomato slime. I'll say, I don't miss all those goddamn flies that would show up about a week after harvest though. And Vacaville doesn't smell like onions anymore either.

Is Hunt's gone now, too? I worked for the city a couple of years, but I haven't been there for quite a while. Woodland still had tomato piles on the onramps, though. And those damned flies

/I do miss that onion smell in Vacaville. Always made me crave a hamburger for some reason

We'd always stop at George's Orange in Dixon. Those were some tasty burgers.

Murder Burger.

I, too miss the onion smell when you'd drive by the fairgrounds in Vacaville. Also miss the Nut Tree. Wasn't there a Del Monte cannery in Sacramento, too? Seem to recall something around 16th and C or so...


Now, known as Redrum Burger Link 

MAn those are good burgers.
 
2012-09-29 05:25:39 PM

phaseolus: jso2897: jjorsett: Generation_D: What happened, did Romney buy the factory?

Yes, it must have been something like that. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with California treating business as something to be scraped from the bottom of one's shoe, starting to see its energy costs jump drastically due to its Global Warming Solutions Act, and aggressively pursuing new taxes on everything and everyone. Why you wouldn't want to modernize a plant under those conditions is a mystery.

It has to do with two things - the California plant being their oldest, and hence least efficient - and the drying up of their business. The basic soups that Campbell sells have fallen out of favor with younger consumers, and their sales numbers have been slowly but steadily slipping downward for years. They need to re-invent the brand, or abandon it, because it's relevance will die with the Boomers if they can't reboot it.

Here's a pic of the Sacramento plant from philly.com's coverage of the story:

[media.philly.com image 281x450]

That tall thing's a "Hydrostat", an old-fashioned but serviceable continuous sterilizer. Cans go in, they're subjected to heat and pressure, cans come out. Due to its construction it's only good for one exact size and shape of cylindrical metal container, in this case the one that's been Campbell's bread and butter for, like, ever.

Unless they also have some batch retorts or something that can sterilize pouches and plastic containers, in its present form the Sacramento plant's useless for producing anything else but those cans. It would be increasingly difficult for this plant to make a go of it if Campbell's making fewer and fewer of those every year.

There's also a third thing -- according to tfa and some others I found a little while ago when I was trying to find out what happened to their Marshall MI plant, they're relying increasingly on "co-packers". Industrial kitchens for hire, essentially.


Yeah, but any time any business in California closes for any reason, it's a dog whistle for one of our resident right wing twats to wax wroth about California's "business climate".
Just calling bullshiat on that.
 
kab
2012-09-29 06:05:39 PM

Giltric: Fark the corporations and their cheap ass tasteless crap. I'm not giving them any of my money Harumph!

Hey why are they laying everyone off?


Try again, sales are up.
 
2012-09-29 06:46:51 PM
Nothing to see Here.. It's just the private sector continuing to be fine.
 
2012-09-29 08:28:46 PM

KarmicDisaster: TheGreatGazoo: Does this mean we get lead based Chinese soups?

Lead adds a nice sweetness.


No that's the rich full-bodied flavor that the lead adds. It's the formaldehyde that brings the sweetness.
 
2012-09-30 02:25:34 AM
phaseolus: That tall thing's a "Hydrostat", an old-fashioned but serviceable continuous sterilizer.

I was unaware that they still used heat to sterilize their soups, I was under the impression that they had switched to adding salt in quantities to kill all living organisms. :^P
 
2012-09-30 02:36:54 AM

CujoQuarrel: The purpose of a company is to make money for the shareholder. Finis


No, the purpose of a company is to make a product that the public is willing to buy at a price point that makes a profit for the company and shareholders. But you can probably get a job at Bain with your attitude.
 
2012-09-30 02:40:34 AM

shotglasss: No, Obama took it over. Then gave them half a trillion dollars of taxpayer money to make soups no one wants and that are inefficient and unneeded.


Ontos: No, but that won't stop the Obama campaign from making a weepy commercial blaming Romney for it.


Elephantman: That would be better then the Govt. stepping in and taking it over wasting billions on a business that will eventually go bankrupt anyway and screw the taxpayers.


weknowmemes.com
 
2012-09-30 07:19:18 AM

Zeno-25: Elephantman: Generation_D: What happened, did Romney buy the factory?

That would be better then the Govt. stepping in and taking it over wasting billions on a business that will eventually go bankrupt anyway and screw the taxpayers.

Yeah, just like they did with bailing out Detroit.

Herp derp Solyndra!


In some parallel universe, GM went bust and Fox Izvestia is blaming B. Hussein Osama.
 
2012-09-30 10:55:31 AM

Elephantman: Generation_D: What happened, did Romney buy the factory?
That would be better then the Govt. stepping in and taking it over wasting billions on a business that will eventually go bankrupt anyway and screw the taxpayers.


Absolutely. Deliberate sabotage of many jobs by one greedy person is a hell of a lot better than a mistaken investment by our government.
 
2012-09-30 11:43:47 AM
FTA....

Campbell Soup is also closing down its spice plant located in South Plainfield, N.J., which supplies ingredients to its U.S. thermal plants. Built in 1962, the facility employs 27 people. It will close in March, at which time spice production will be moved to its larger Milwaukee plant.

He who controls the spice controls the universe!
 
2012-09-30 01:58:38 PM

baronbloodbath: FTA....

Campbell Soup is also closing down its spice plant located in South Plainfield, N.J., which supplies ingredients to its U.S. thermal plants. Built in 1962, the facility employs 27 people. It will close in March, at which time spice production will be moved to its larger Milwaukee plant.

He who controls the spice controls the universe!


Must be some damn fine spice...
 
2012-09-30 02:49:56 PM
dorkydeb.com
 
2012-09-30 04:09:39 PM
So you're saying a lot of workers were canned?

(Mike Myers photo here)
 
2012-09-30 11:41:05 PM
Hmm, odd. About a year ago, a friend of mine just finished up the electrical work on a big place north of Seatle (Everett area) that was going to be making Campbell's soup. Can't remember the name, but essentially Campbell's was contracting out the soupmaking to that company.
 
2012-10-01 12:26:45 PM
Union jobs going to non-union states?
 
2012-10-01 09:42:57 PM
MMmm MMmm Obama.
 
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