gilgigamesh: I recently saw it was on Netflix and figured I'd watch an episode
GAT_00: I should note, after reading, that my response of West Wing is obviously to the headline of 'greatest show ever' not 'greatest comedy ever.' I can't comment on Cheers because I never watched it, but to me, Scrubs is the best comedy I've ever seen, not only because it was hilarious, but because when it was serious, it was better than most dramas ever could be.
SpikeStrip: and woody would be the only one to go on to have a substantive career. go figure.
Darth_Lukecash: But Cheers wasn't the best. The last few years it was really, really horrible.
robmilmel: Darth_Lukecash: But Cheers wasn't the best. The last few years it was really, really horrible.The dreaded "Rebecca" years.
Nadie_AZ: It did well in spite of her. The corporate takeover thing and the Frasier/crazy girl marriage thing was very not-cheers.
Darth_Lukecash: The last three years, they seem intent on becoming parodies of their former selves.Cliff became a creepy freak, Rebbecca became a spoiled fat biatch. What's worse, Sammy became an pathetic old sexaholic who couldn't get a date.
Darth_Lukecash: Nadie_AZ: It did well in spite of her. The corporate takeover thing and the Frasier/crazy girl marriage thing was very not-cheers.Are you talking about Frasier/Lilith? That was actually the best part of the show for the longest while.
Nadie_AZ: GAT_00: I should note, after reading, that my response of West Wing is obviously to the headline of 'greatest show ever' not 'greatest comedy ever.' I can't comment on Cheers because I never watched it, but to me, Scrubs is the best comedy I've ever seen, not only because it was hilarious, but because when it was serious, it was better than most dramas ever could be.FTA:Even if you've never seen Cheers (and, by the way, all 275 episodes are now streaming on Netflix) you've seen its lineage. Amy Poehler and Mike Schur (creators of Parks & Recreation), Bill Lawrence (Scrubs), Dan Harmon (Community), and Shawn Ryan (The Shield) are all fans, if not downright scholars, of Cheers. "I hope and assume that every good comedy writer, no matter the age, has a moment where they discover how great Cheers is," says Poehler, who regularly watches Cheers episodes in her Parks & Recreation trailer. "And I would encourage any young person getting into comedy to sit down and watch it."
FirstNationalBastard: SpikeStrip: and woody would be the only one to go on to have a substantive career. go figure.Not really.Ted Danson had his own sitcom for 6 years, and is now on CSI.Kelsey Grammer was on Frasier for 11 years, won multiple awards, and now has a new critically acclaimed series.Woody's done Natural Born Killers, People vs. Larry Flynt, and No Country For Old Men.
Mentat: Best Norm Ever
violentsalvation: Cheers M*A*S*H : Best. TV show. Evar
SilentStrider: violentsalvation: Cheers M*A*S*H : Best. TV show. EvarUntil it got preachy. After that, it was good, but not great.
FloydA: How do you measure "best" here?I loved "Cheers," but I wouldn't even call it the "best" sitcom, or best serial, much less the best TV show if you define "best" in terms of influence."I Love Lucy" takes best sitcom. (It's hard to say that any sitcom was more influential than that.)"Star Trek" gets best series. (Come on, seriously, modern life was influenced more by that one show than anything else.)Either "Soap" or "Twin Peaks" gets the "most innovative serial" award."The Prisoner" (Patrick McGoohan's version) gets "most creative show."Heck, I'll even toss in a few SNL, Kids in the Hall, and SCTV episodes as "funniest shows." (And all of those are overshadowed in the "most consistently entertaining" category by Mystery Science Theater 3000.)Cheers was neither the funniest, the most innovative, the most creative, the most influential, nor the most original show."Cheers" was a good show, maybe even a great show, but it never did anything that hadn't been done before. (That's not a criticism, it's a complement- what audiences needed at the time was a "place where everybody knows your name," something familiar, and that's what the show provided.)I love Cheers, but "best ever?" I don't think so.
violentsalvation: Cheers After M*A*S*H : Best. TV show. Evar
HighOnCraic: violentsalvation: Cheers After M*A*S*H : Best. TV show. Evar/Just kidding!//Put away the pitchforks!
vudukungfu: Hey. Hey. Hey.. Let's not over Anal-ise this now. .Link
FloydA: violentsalvation: Cheers M*A*S*H : Best. TV show. EvarGood point; I should have added a "medical drama" category. Without the demonstrated success of M*A*S*H, there would probably not be "House" or "Quincy M.E." or "St. Elsewhere," "ER," "China Beach,""Chicago Hope," "Grey's Anatomy," and even "Doogie Howser, M.D."Best ever? No. Best (most influential) medical drama? Definitely.
propasaurus: Norm: Yeah, Cliffy had himself the "Ton O' T-Bone". For less than four bucks you get 24 ounces of USDA Choice "bef".Cliff: Bef? No, you mean beef.Norm: Beef? Don't be ridiculous, Cliffy. That stuff is "bef". You see it's a Hungry Heifer trademark for a processed, synthetic - what - meat-like substance.Cliff: Ah, no.Norm: What do you expect for four bucks? You see me complainin' about the "loobster"?
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