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2012-09-28 05:56:18 PM
INTERCEPTDOWN!!!
 
2012-09-28 05:57:44 PM
The quarterback is named Jayden. I bet he dreams of murdering his parents nightly.
 
2012-09-28 05:58:29 PM
I hope that QB got crush on a really late, really hard hit during the next series of downs.

There's trick plays, and then there's showboating.
 
2012-09-28 06:02:04 PM
Crazy maybe, but not best.  Completely stupid.  For one, he had a guy way open at the end of the endzone.  And he threw it into what looked like 3 (or more) -on-1 coverage.
 
2012-09-28 06:05:55 PM
Wut. Da. Fug?
 
2012-09-28 06:24:45 PM
It was to tie the game late in the fourth. It might have been flashy, but if they thought it gave them the best chance of getting 2, it was the right call.
 
2012-09-28 06:26:56 PM
If I was the coach that QB would be hauling buckets from the locker room to the bench for the rest of the year. Unless it was my idea, in which case I should expect to be fired immediately. That is just plain stupid, and it was lucky that it worked. That is just begging for a pick and runback.
 
2012-09-28 06:47:54 PM

Balchinian: That is just begging for a pick and runback.


Is a conversion even allowed to be returned, isn't it a dead ball if the try fails?

Also, awful lot of hate in here for some high school kids running a trick play and having a little fun. Take yourselves less seriously.
 
2012-09-28 06:52:08 PM

bel4sucks: Balchinian: That is just begging for a pick and runback.

Is a conversion even allowed to be returned, isn't it a dead ball if the try fails?

Also, awful lot of hate in here for some high school kids running a trick play and having a little fun. Take yourselves less seriously.


The other team gets the two points if they bring it back.
 
2012-09-28 07:04:00 PM

TheLopper: bel4sucks: Balchinian: That is just begging for a pick and runback.

Is a conversion even allowed to be returned, isn't it a dead ball if the try fails?

Also, awful lot of hate in here for some high school kids running a trick play and having a little fun. Take yourselves less seriously.

The other team gets the two points if they bring it back.


Oh, in that case let's lynch the kid - this ain't a game, it's god-damned football!

/Yippie Ky-ay-aye
 
2012-09-28 07:08:46 PM

bel4sucks: Balchinian: That is just begging for a pick and runback.

Is a conversion even allowed to be returned, isn't it a dead ball if the try fails?

Also, awful lot of hate in here for some high school kids running a trick play and having a little fun. Take yourselves less seriously.


High School Football. Srs. Busness.

And, yes, high school rules (except for Texas and Massachusetts) a similar to NFL rules that prevent the defense from scoring on a conversion attempt.
 
2012-09-28 07:34:17 PM
Meanwhile, sometime during that game, the coach probably called for a punt on 4th-and-1 from midfield after running a FB dive on 3rd-and-2 that failed to gain the two yards. I farking loathe football coaches. They all need to read Sportscasting.

Wildcat, flea flicker, icing kicker, and other assorted "trickery"?: YES!
Going for it on fourth down before the final possession: THE DEVIL!
 
2012-09-28 07:40:47 PM
Pretty sneaky, sis.
 
2012-09-28 08:54:04 PM
I read another article about that play. It is a designed play, according to the coach. I'd link the article but I'm too lazy. Anyhow, that's no different than throwing a fade to the corner of the endzone and letting the receiver out jump the cornerback for it. Except here it's in the middle of the field and of course he's not looking when he throws it. But the principle is the same.
 
2012-09-28 09:06:47 PM

TommyDeuce: this ain't a game, it's god-damned football!


Yeah. Some games matter.
 
2012-09-28 09:09:56 PM

lecavalier: Going for it on fourth down before the final possession: THE DEVIL!


It's about risk. You screw up a flea flicker on 1st down? You lose a few yards and try again on 2nd down. You fail on a 4th down at your own 30 and your opponent now has the ball close to field goal range (well, maybe not in high school).

That being said, if you take a delay of game penalty on 4th and 1 to give your punter more room to work with, you should probably try going for it every once in a while.
 
2012-09-28 09:18:36 PM

Donnchadha: lecavalier: Going for it on fourth down before the final possession: THE DEVIL!

It's about risk. You screw up a flea flicker on 1st down? You lose a few yards and try again on 2nd down. You fail on a 4th down at your own 30 and your opponent now has the ball close to field goal range (well, maybe not in high school).

That being said, if you take a delay of game penalty on 4th and 1 to give your punter more room to work with, you should probably try going for it every once in a while.


Posting half-drunk now so I'll be short. It is my belief, after years of watching the sport and absorbing other opinions, that the biggest risk you take on a football field is purposely giving the ball to the opponent ... at any point in the game.
 
2012-09-28 09:22:44 PM

Cubs300: I read another article about that play. It is a designed play, according to the coach. I'd link the article but I'm too lazy. Anyhow, that's no different than throwing a fade to the corner of the endzone and letting the receiver out jump the cornerback for it. Except here it's in the middle of the field and of course he's not looking when he throws it. But the principle is the same.


The principal of a fade is that by throwing it to a corner, you don't have to worry about getting intercepted deep.
 
2012-09-28 09:24:27 PM

Donnchadha: lecavalier: Going for it on fourth down before the final possession: THE DEVIL!

It's about risk. You screw up a flea flicker on 1st down? You lose a few yards and try again on 2nd down. You fail on a 4th down at your own 30 and your opponent now has the ball close to field goal range (well, maybe not in high school).

That being said, if you take a delay of game penalty on 4th and 1 to give your punter more room to work with, you should probably try going for it every once in a while.


Here is the kicker... have you ever heard an announcer say a long interception is like a punt? Well, a punt is like a long interception.
 
2012-09-28 09:35:56 PM
My team runs that same play some in flag football intramurals. It works every time. Consider this; the receiver is the only guy in the endzone expecting you to throw it while you're running backwards.
 
2012-09-28 09:35:59 PM

meanmutton: Here is the kicker... have you ever heard an announcer say a long interception is like a punt? Well, a punt is like a long interception.


Well played.
 
2012-09-28 09:37:01 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: TommyDeuce: this ain't a game, it's god-damned football!

Yeah. Some games matter.


This one? No. But others, sure.
 
2012-09-28 09:53:22 PM

bel4sucks: Is a conversion even allowed to be returned, isn't it a dead ball if the try fails?


In the NFL it's a dead ball.

In college you can run it back for 2 points.

Not sure about high school.
 
2012-09-28 10:03:07 PM

balki1867: bel4sucks: Is a conversion even allowed to be returned, isn't it a dead ball if the try fails?

In the NFL it's a dead ball.

In college you can run it back for 2 points.

Not sure about high school.


NFHS goes by NFL rules. Defense can't score on a try. Ball is dead as soon as it's turned over.
 
2012-09-28 10:23:50 PM
I think he threw the ball that way because it was easier to lob up into the air creating a jump ball and also to surprise the defender
 
2012-09-28 10:27:44 PM
When will coaches stop drawing up these needless, unsportsmanlike plays? Next thing you know, these kids will be playing every down as if they have a chance to win a ball game, and that sort of happy-go-lucky style just won't fly in the NFL!
 
2012-09-28 11:40:55 PM
I don't have a problem with the play; it was a trick play and the defense was tricked.

A fade is an expected play, a TE drag is an expected play, student body to the strong side of the field is expected, throwing the ball blindly over your shoulder to your TE who is releasing on the play, now that Is unexpected.

The drama from the play comes from the fact that he under threw the ball forcing a close play. He puts that ball about 4 feet deeper in end zone and the TE converts the play without question and without drama.

I would rather see these play than a coach calling onside kick after onside kick.
 
2012-09-29 12:01:25 AM

CommiePuddin: When will coaches stop drawing up these needless, unsportsmanlike plays? Next thing you know, these kids will be playing every down as if they have a chance to win a ball game, and that sort of happy-go-lucky style just won't fly in the NFL!


Yea, what do they think this is, basketball?
 
2012-09-29 12:21:16 AM
Question:

Why do they always go for a field goal in the NFL and the 2-point conversion in high school football?
 
2012-09-29 12:26:17 AM
Good play. Such a quick surprise the defenders could barely get set to jump.
 
2012-09-29 12:29:53 AM
What, no Grand Final thread?
 
2012-09-29 12:31:06 AM

Donnchadha: lecavalier: Going for it on fourth down before the final possession: THE DEVIL!

It's about risk. You screw up a flea flicker on 1st down? You lose a few yards and try again on 2nd down. You fail on a 4th down at your own 30 and your opponent now has the ball close to field goal range (well, maybe not in high school).

That being said, if you take a delay of game penalty on 4th and 1 to give your punter more room to work with, you should probably try going for it every once in a while.


It's really about public perception of risk. Just about everyone who looks at stats carefully realize that teams are too hesitant to go for it on 4th and short. But the fact that they'll get heavily blamed when it fails and barely lauded when it succeeds makes conservative play on 4th down the standard play for most coaches.
 
2012-09-29 12:33:36 AM

Skyrmion: Donnchadha: lecavalier: Going for it on fourth down before the final possession: THE DEVIL!

It's about risk. You screw up a flea flicker on 1st down? You lose a few yards and try again on 2nd down. You fail on a 4th down at your own 30 and your opponent now has the ball close to field goal range (well, maybe not in high school).

That being said, if you take a delay of game penalty on 4th and 1 to give your punter more room to work with, you should probably try going for it every once in a while.

It's really about public perception of risk. Just about everyone who looks at stats carefully realize that teams are too hesitant to go for it on 4th and short. But the fact that they'll get heavily blamed when it fails and barely lauded when it succeeds makes conservative play on 4th down the standard play for most coaches.


This. Same goes for the 2 point conversion. If you're struggling on offense, you may want to go for the kick, but if you're doing half decent, you're better off going for two, even if you run the risk of looking stupid.
 
2012-09-29 12:37:41 AM

Balchinian: If I was the coach that QB would be hauling buckets from the locker room to the bench for the rest of the year. Unless it was my idea, in which case I should expect to be fired immediately. That is just plain stupid, and it was lucky that it worked. That is just begging for a pick and runback.


Pretty much looked like a designed trick play to me. The defenders are not going to key on pass when the QBs back is to them.

But, if you want to see showboating, just sit over there and see it... in your lawnchair... yelling at people with vision and creativity to get off your lawn.
 
2012-09-29 12:43:43 AM

meanmutton: Cubs300: I read another article about that play. It is a designed play, according to the coach. I'd link the article but I'm too lazy. Anyhow, that's no different than throwing a fade to the corner of the endzone and letting the receiver out jump the cornerback for it. Except here it's in the middle of the field and of course he's not looking when he throws it. But the principle is the same.

The principal of a fade is that by throwing it to a corner, you don't have to worry about getting intercepted deep.


I think that was the point of the bouquet throw: the defense sees him still turned around to hand off, and so are focused not at the guy beside them, but at the backs; by the time they realize the ball is in the air, they really don't have time to do much. Do it in college or the pros and some linebacker just got a free score, but HS kids are going to be a bit slower on the uptake. Also, I imagine they had the QB do that throw a fairly absurd number of times in practice, so the receiver had a good idea where it came down - the 3 defenders around him was probably just dumb luck; his instructions were probabaly "count to five, and be where Jayden always lands it"
 
2012-09-29 02:16:15 AM
Still a better pass than Tebow can manage.
 
2012-09-29 03:10:38 AM
I misread that as "two point conversation".

Is it bad that I was disappointed?
 
2012-09-29 03:34:25 AM
Good play, QB turns around and defense is just look at him, doesn't give them much time to react to the throw.
 
2012-09-29 06:20:19 AM
Don't think it would've mattered much to the defense if he would've just turned around and threw it correctly. Dumb play and lucky that it worked.
 
2012-09-29 08:47:10 AM

4NSpy: I hope that QB got crush on a really late, really hard hit during the next series of downs.

There's trick plays, and then there's showboating.


This is exactly the type of attitude that doesn't belong in sports. Someone beats you and with a play and instead of learning from it you want to hurt someone. Childish.
 
2012-09-29 09:52:45 AM

Deman: Question:

Why do they always go for a field goal in the NFL and the 2-point conversion in high school football?


Most of the time, it's because their kicker is inconsistent at kicking even a PAT.
 
2012-09-29 04:55:53 PM

GoNDSioux: Deman: Question:

Why do they always go for a field goal in the NFL and the 2-point conversion in high school football?

Most of the time, it's because their kicker is inconsistent at kicking even a PAT.


That, and a high school coach probably has less risk of being fired.

If I were a NFL coach, the first play from scrimmage in my first game would be a fake punt, just to put people on notice that I don't give a fark.
 
2012-10-01 08:35:52 AM
stupid.
 
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