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(The Daily Beast)   Hey, do you know what would really bring swing voters back over to the Romney camp? Smearing Obama's dead mother as a pornstar whore, that's what   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 269
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2012-09-29 03:07:01 AM

Animatronik: How is this an appeal to racism?

His mother was white.


I'm pretty sure the guys who I went to high school with in Georgia would lap this shiat up.

When I asked them why they called one of our fellow students "HB" behind his back they laughed and explained that "HB" stood for "Half-Black". When an interracial couple walked by at the mall they'd shake their heads and mutter "that's just sooo wrong". When I responded by saying that I'd love to have a black girlfriend they looked at me like I was crazy.

That is just one of the many forms that racism takes, and those are the kind of people that this dog-whistle shiat is aimed at.
 
2012-09-29 03:11:23 AM

Trapper439: Animatronik: How is this an appeal to racism?

His mother was white.

I'm pretty sure the guys who I went to high school with in Georgia would lap this shiat up.

When I asked them why they called one of our fellow students "HB" behind his back they laughed and explained that "HB" stood for "Half-Black". When an interracial couple walked by at the mall they'd shake their heads and mutter "that's just sooo wrong". When I responded by saying that I'd love to have a black girlfriend they looked at me like I was crazy.

That is just one of the many forms that racism takes, and those are the kind of people that this dog-whistle shiat is aimed at.


aka "Yeah, but would you want your daughter to marry one?"
 
2012-09-29 03:21:26 AM

TheBigJerk: TheBigJerk:

I should add, this documentary exemplifies the concept of a political dogwhistle. Most people (you for example) don't recognize it as racist, yet it resonates very well with racists.


Really? You really think he really doesn't recognize it as racist? Really?
 
2012-09-29 03:23:42 AM

Animatronik: propasaurus: skullkrusher: I am not outraged that some nobody I've never heard of is writing a book to smear the President...


Look, I don't want to seem like I'm jumping on you because we may disagree on some political issues. I recognize that folks can agree on some things, disagree on others, and sometimes, hopefully most of the time can still work together to do what's best for all.
But...
this isn't just some isolated incident, overzealous staffer. This is something that's being supported, ideologically and financially by what has become the leading voice, the mainstream of the right wing.
Millions -millions- of copies of this are being sent to voters in swing states with the express purpose of swaying an election; not on political or ideological grounds, not because of disagreements over policy. This, for all the claims the right that the left is constantly 'playing the race card,' THIS is an appeal to racism. And it is being endorsed and accepted by the mainstream of the party, if only by their silence. These are not any longer fringe kooks. You have elected officials, at the local state and federal level who approve and advance this message. And it's being done, ostensibly, in service of electing a candidate that even the core of the Party doesn't like.
And it's going to take more, much more, than 'some guy' on an anonymous Internet message board saying they disagree with this to put an end to it.

I get it, I do. You don't consider yourself to be a social conservative, you don't personally align yourself with the extreme social conservatives of your Party. Yet you (or others like you) will still look at how vile and despicable the Party has become, you will recoil at the filth, and hold your nose and reward this filth with a vote. You (not YOU, 'you') will pull that lever, knowing that your Party doesn't represent you and validate their decision to sink to the lowest guttural depths.

How is this an appeal to racism?

His mother was white.


Holy crap...
 
2012-09-29 03:26:40 AM

propasaurus: TheBigJerk: TheBigJerk:

I should add, this documentary exemplifies the concept of a political dogwhistle. Most people (you for example) don't recognize it as racist, yet it resonates very well with racists.

Really? You really think he really doesn't recognize it as racist? Really?


I try to play it soft on the first round, they're more likely to prove their honesty/dishonesty if you give 'em enough rope to hang themselves. It tends to end the same way either way.
 
2012-09-29 07:36:26 AM

Expolaris: FlashHarry: the modern republican party is so loathsome, so vile, so.... obscene, that i now believe that there is literally nothing they would not do to win an election.

The one description i read on Fark a while likened the current GOP as an old dog bitten by Tea Party Rabies. They are mad, foaming at the mouth while spouting as much hate, lies, and bigotry as they can to bring home the victory. They are old and have nothing left to lose, they will burn it all to the ground if that's what it takes.You are either going with them on their mission to "save America" from the evil FartBongo or you are everything that is killing America.

The sad part is they are getting so far gone that they can't differentiate between friends and foes anymore, the beast is beginning to turn on itself.


I have decided it is early dementia manifesting itself.
 
2012-09-29 08:49:35 AM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Rann Xerox: rabidarmadillo24: The fact that Obama hasn't sued the creators of the works mentioned in the aticle for libel and/or slander shows one of two things, either he has very thick skin (which goes against everything that I've heard), or that evertything that has been said is quantifyably true. The article mentions D'Souza as a respected conservative, so one must assume that he thoroughly researched all of this information before publication. I stand convinced that Obama is fearful of the truth that has been given to the American people in this late stage of the presidential race. It will be interesting to see what kind of campaign Obama will launch to discredit D'Souza.

Seeing that D'Souza had pretty much discredited himself for the love of the almighty dollar from brainless dullards like yourself, no action will be needed.

The campaign he launches to discredit D'Souza will consist of Obama laughing and saying, "Hey, folks, get a load of this--" and then simply playing clips of the things D'Souza says and reading the things he's written on national television over and over.


Heh. I missed that little gem on my first read-though.
You gotta love that "reasoning": If some asshole that nobody respects (and who, incidentally, has no money or property worth taking) publishes something ridiculous about me, and I don't sue him - that proves that it's true.
I honestly don't know what has happened to "conservatives" (if you can even call them that anymore) in the last couple of decades. It's like their brains have all broken.
 
2012-09-29 09:25:55 AM
The right wing cowards know there is no use in Obama even acknowledging the accusations. Imagine the win for the conservatives if they get Obama to start saying "My mother was not a whore!".

It's the same (yet somehow worse) as when conservatives started passing around a movie that accused Clinton of selling drugs and murder while he was in office.... Clinton had to ignore it, imagine if the conversation turned to Clinton saying "I am not a drug dealer and a murderer!"

Like one politician once said: I don't really believe my opponent is a goat farker, I just want him to get up and deny he is a goat farker.

The truth is the only people who would give this stuff the time of day are so far in the conservative bubble they have no idea how to think critically anymore, morons basically.
 
2012-09-29 11:06:46 AM
Holy farking shiat @ this article.

Jesus Bartholomew Christ. And the comments. My god.

It's frankly amazing that anyone in the media still listens to Dinesh D'Souza. Of course, from now on if anyone cites him, you can reasonably dismiss his relevance with "oh, right, that guy who devoted a whole chapter of his book to calling the President's mother a fat whore".
 
2012-09-29 02:44:36 PM

T-Servo: J Noble Daggett: It's part of the explanation. She was whoring in Hawaii making p0rnos whiles he was being born in Kenya. What kind of mother doesn't even attend her own son's birth?

The CIA obviously provided the time machine technology, so it was no longer necessary. And we all know Obama later used that technology to invade Iraq and cause the Wall Street crash of 2008.

Come to think of it, Pres Obama was probably his own father.


As Louis CK pointed out the other day, black people really have no interest in travelling back in time.
 
2012-09-29 03:37:45 PM
I can't speak to this "new" video, but D'Souza is getting lambasted for something he did. not. say. I went to see 2016 this week- there are no allegations against Obama's mother. If anything, she comes off as a rather pitiable figure- married young to a polygamist, abandoned, left to bring up a small child on her own... and instead of telling him what an awful person his father was, she tried to paint a positive picture of his dad for him, building up Obama senior in an unrealistic fashion. The worst thing you can say about the president's mother, based on D'Souza's film, is that she had unfortunate taste in men.
 
2012-09-29 03:55:54 PM

Nmissi: I can't speak to this "new" video, but D'Souza is getting lambasted for something he did. not. say. I went to see 2016 this week- there are no allegations against Obama's mother. If anything, she comes off as a rather pitiable figure- married young to a polygamist, abandoned, left to bring up a small child on her own... and instead of telling him what an awful person his father was, she tried to paint a positive picture of his dad for him, building up Obama senior in an unrealistic fashion. The worst thing you can say about the president's mother, based on D'Souza's film, is that she had unfortunate taste in men.


Maybe you didn't read the entire article.

Meanwhile, D'Souza's book, Obama's America, the companion volume to his hit documentary 2016, is enjoying its fifth week on The New York Times bestseller list, though it has fallen to the No. 4 spot. Obama's America makes the same argument as his 2010 bestseller, The Roots of Obama's Rage: that Obama is motivated by an anti-colonial animus against Western power. "Obama views Muslims who are fighting against America in Iraq and Afghanistan as freedom fighters, somewhat akin to Indians or Kenyans fighting to push out their British colonial occupier," he wrote in the 2010 book. He writes more or less the same thing in the new one. The primary difference is that while before he mainly focused on Obama's father, now he turns his attention to Obama's mom as well.

D'Souza argues that part of the reason Ann Dunham sent Obama to live with her parents in Hawaii was so she could pursue affairs with Indonesian men. "Ann's sexual adventuring may seem a little surprising in view of the fact that she was a large woman who kept getting larger," he writes. On the next page, he continues, "Learning about Ann's sexual adventures in Indonesia, I realized how wrong I had been to consider Barack Obama Sr. the playboy ... Ann ... was the real playgirl, and despite all her reservations about power, she was using her American background and economic and social power to purchase the romantic attention of third-world men."

There is no evidence for any of this-D'Souza mentions the name of exactly one man who Dunham had a relationship with after her divorce.
 
2012-09-29 08:53:05 PM
From what I've read about her she did seem a bit mentally unstable, but I don't even know how this could begin to be relevant.
 
2012-09-29 10:52:54 PM

God-is-a-Taco: From what I've read about her she did seem a bit mentally unstable, but I don't even know how this could begin to be relevant.


If your kid was a time-travelling Keynan Muslim Anti-Christ Socialist Communist, you'd be a little unbalanced too.
 
2012-09-30 12:00:38 AM

imontheinternet: When your policies are terrible and your candidate is worse, it's time to play the dozens.


DEBATE NIGHT - a hush falls over the crowd...

Obama: Governor Romney, why do you think you're qualified to be president of this great country?

Romney: Yo mama!

Obama: ...Okay, do you have any foreign policy experience? How would you have handled the killing of BinLaden?

Romney: Yo mama so fat last time she wore high heels the b*tch struck oil!

Obama: Alright, a different question, Governor... why has your firm, Bain Capital, closed down so many companies in this country, putting thousands of people out of work just so that you could line your own pockets?

Romney: Yo mama got a wooden leg with a kickstand!

Obama: Look Governor Romney... my mother has nothing to do with your qualifications for this office! Now let's get back to the matter at hand...Abortion-

Romney: Yo mama so stupid somebody told her it was chilly outside so she ran and got a bowl!

Obama: *walks off stage*
 
2012-09-30 12:40:18 AM
Oh, this old worn out trash yet again, huh? How original. How utterly creative.
 
2012-09-30 08:54:59 AM

Kittypie070: Oh, this old worn out trash yet again, huh? How original. How utterly creative.


"You wanna a beer?"

"It's 7am!"

"...scotch?"

/game day
 
2012-09-30 04:22:07 PM
Can someone prove she wasn't?
 
2012-10-01 11:51:25 AM

Tumunga: Do not pay attention to anything, I say ANYTHING, I happen to mention in the politics tab. I could care less about politics. I'm in there to agitate you. Keeping that in mind, if I offend you in any way, you have been trolled. Admit it, give me props, then move on.


You haven't provided any meaningful agitation.
You get no props.
 
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