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(Washington Post)   Those new GOP/Fox News talking points about "skewed polling numbers" are "a false narrative that encourages the Republican Party to take the wrong lessons from this election, no matter the outcome"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 31
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2012-09-28 01:56:57 PM
7 votes:
There are no false narratives. There are only narratives that have not yet realized their underlying truth.
2012-09-28 02:42:41 PM
4 votes:

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Serious Black: Anybody who actually thinks the GOP would moderate themselves should Obama win reelection hasn't been paying attention the last four years.

I fear that you are correct.

I suspect they're ridin' this puppy straight into the ground.


YEEEE-HAWWW
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2012-09-28 09:30:02 PM
3 votes:

Altitude5280: The guy who runs UnScewed polls looks exactly like you would expect him to look. Link


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2012-09-28 02:12:27 PM
3 votes:
The GOP will take away the lesson that the chicken didn't get farked enough.
2012-09-28 11:53:46 PM
2 votes:
I reformulated the way penises are measured and, ladies, you'll be pleased to know that I went from an embarrassing 5 inches to very respectable 13. I also used a new formula to calculate my net worth, and I went from "broke as shiat" to "Romney wants to lower my taxes". EIP.
2012-09-28 10:09:39 PM
2 votes:

mrshowrules: Arachnophobe: Altitude5280: The guy who runs UnScewed polls looks exactly like you would expect him to look. Link

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When you are desperate you have to got to desperate lengths. There is a drunk hooker downtown that will tell you Romney is leading by 30 points if you give her a bag of ham and $10 in quarters.


but..but...that was MY ham. redistributionsocialist!
2012-09-28 05:57:48 PM
2 votes:

theorellior: There's gonna be blood in the streets in certain places if Romney loses. I'm expecting at least one riot, maybe more. And white people doing it, no less.


If the rioters tear Brian Kilmeade limb from limb live on Fox and Friends, I can handle windows smashed at suburban Pottery Barns nationwide.
2012-09-28 03:16:07 PM
2 votes:

Elandriel: vygramul: DamnYankees: As I said in the other thread, this is bordering on dangerous territory, where our elections become systematically untrustworthy as every win is seen as illegitimate by the half of the country that loses.

Or the result of widespread voter fraud that needs "fixing".

I don't know if that's true if Romney were to win. I think that the Democratic voters across the country would lament the idiocy of those who would elect such a simpering fool, but not really go as far as to say "stolen" or illegitimate or whatever.

However if Obama wins it's almost certain to result in an awful lot of derp.


If Obama wins the conversion of America to an African-style Socialist Kleptocracy will be complete and the Soviet USSA will begin its path through 1,000 years of darkness.

That will be the opening derp and then it will get weird.
2012-09-29 08:57:32 AM
1 votes:

Arachnophobe: Altitude5280: The guy who runs UnScewed polls looks exactly like you would expect him to look. Link

[talkingpointsmemo.com image 300x300][i1126.photobucket.com image 336x333]


talkingpointsmemo.com imageshack.us
2012-09-29 12:06:18 AM
1 votes:
FOX News is just angry that they're the ones getting skewed.
2012-09-28 10:01:54 PM
1 votes:

Arachnophobe: Altitude5280: The guy who runs UnScewed polls looks exactly like you would expect him to look. Link

[talkingpointsmemo.com image 300x300][i1126.photobucket.com image 336x333]


When you are desperate you have to got to desperate lengths. There is a drunk hooker downtown that will tell you Romney is leading by 30 points if you give her a bag of ham and $10 in quarters.
2012-09-28 08:45:48 PM
1 votes:

Introitus: DamnYankees: As I said in the other thread, this is bordering on dangerous territory, where our elections become systematically untrustworthy as every win is seen as illegitimate by the half of the country that loses.

[2000 Supreme Court image 400x267]


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So, this was the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court at the time?
2012-09-28 08:43:27 PM
1 votes:
Numbers are temporary, and we all know the stupid shiat that romney said could be forgotten, campaign energy ebbs and flows. Maybe Obama could do some horrible thing and Romney would be the only choice.

Here is what pisses me off, when Romney might have been slightly leading, it is throw in everybody's face that Obama was going to loose.

Now that Romney has said stupid things and is losing the numbers, the numbers are no longer real. Lalala, we can't hear you.
2012-09-28 07:55:54 PM
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: A goodly number of those things would need to happen AND Obama would have to react to it badly AND Romney would have to react to it well.

So...no, it's not really possible.


Wouldn't that be a hoot? Romney gets multiple October Surprises to break his way, and he still loses. Because he's Mitt Farking Romney.
2012-09-28 06:47:38 PM
1 votes:

BSABSVR: Quasar: "We lost because we ran a pantywaisted moderate"

Get ready to hear that for a few years. They're going to tack even harder right if they lose.

Yes but with this it's also going to be:

"We lost because of clear election fraud perpetrated by the Obama campaign. Why, the unskewed data showed Romney winning in a landslide!"


The ballots were skewed.
2012-09-28 06:26:16 PM
1 votes:

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The escape-into-fantasy tactic the right-wing is taking in this election is frightening. At least they were aware they were losing with McCain/Palin. I fear bagger-retribution when Romney fails to win with >500 electoral votes.


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It happened WAY before this election.
2012-09-28 06:03:03 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: There's gonna be blood in the streets in certain places if Romney loses. I'm expecting at least one riot, maybe more. And white people doing it, no less.


Old people don't riot.

They will all cry on their keyboards as they post pictures of crying eagles on message boards.

If they do riot, we just have to wait for their hoveround batteries to go dead, and then just tow them to jail.
2012-09-28 05:56:59 PM
1 votes:
The same pollsters that accurately predicted Obama winning in 2008 are all completely wrong now. Sounds legit.
2012-09-28 05:43:00 PM
1 votes:

impaler: Historically, Rasmussen's polling trends closer to average as it gets closer to the election. It's going to be funny when they reweight, causing a cascade of Obama leading on unskewed polls. At which point we will need true_and_honest_unskewed polls to come in an find another nonsensical data transformation that will favor Romney.


UPDATE!

Dean Chambers has fixed the problem.

Thursday night, Chambers began using party identification numbers from his own web-based poll.
2012-09-28 05:42:40 PM
1 votes:

vygramul: DamnYankees: As I said in the other thread, this is bordering on dangerous territory, where our elections become systematically untrustworthy as every win is seen as illegitimate by the half of the country that loses.

Or the result of widespread voter fraud that needs "fixing".


Fixing needed to save the country, the culture, and Christianity from a global conspiracy of Islamists, communists and heathens that will stop at nothing to crush their common enemy: real AmericansTM.


/trying very hard not to godwin this thread
2012-09-28 05:34:45 PM
1 votes:
talkingpointsmemo.com

Gah. Flounder
2012-09-28 05:27:56 PM
1 votes:

birchman: the derpiest candidate ever imagined in 2016.


It'll be like Bachmann Palin overdrive
2012-09-28 05:27:53 PM
1 votes:

justtray: I will cover all bets on a 50/50 payout against Obama.

Any cowardly hypocrites up for the challenge? (by hypocrites I mean Republicans of course)


Gimme 10 grand on Romney and another 5 grand on the Washington Generals. I got a feeling they're due.
2012-09-28 05:17:19 PM
1 votes:
Remember when liberals were running around after 2000 claiming that the election was stolen? Some pretty popular band for people who don't appreciate good music even had a CD titled "Hail to the Thief". They put themselves into such an echo chamber for the next four years that they were shocked - SHOCKED - that they could possibly lose in 2004.

I see the same thing happening to conservatards this time around. "Waaaah how could XX,XXX,XXX people be so STUPID" the NRO will cry.
2012-09-28 05:07:11 PM
1 votes:
The Republican death spiral has been in effect for over half a decade of it. The only question is what will be birthed from the ashes after President Castro gets elected in 2024
2012-09-28 05:06:56 PM
1 votes:
Fox News dishing out nonsense? I'm shocked.

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/GEDOFFIT!
2012-09-28 04:34:06 PM
1 votes:
Obama winning is trading at 78% on Intrade. I'd like to see someone unskew that tidbit.
2012-09-28 03:51:50 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: If pollsters look at a demographically representative sample of registered or likely voters and find fewer Republicans than might be expected, it could be that voters who once might have called themselves Republicans no longer feel comfortable with the label.

Because I would rather not be viewed as a tea partier.
2012-09-28 02:22:00 PM
1 votes:
Well, actually lighting their pants on fire would probably not be legal.
2012-09-28 02:17:10 PM
1 votes:
Unskewedpolls.com has an update today - a new Fox News poll.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows President Obama attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while Mitt Romney earns the vote from 46%.

Unskewedpolls re-weights the polls based off of Rasmussen data, so one can assume straight Rasmussen numbers should be included in unskewedpoll's graphs.

So unskewed should really look like this:
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That's right. The only polls that "really" show Obama leading are Fox News and Rasmussen.
2012-09-28 01:49:21 PM
1 votes:
the Republican Party to take the wrong lessons from this election

I'm pretty sure they were going to do this even before the skewed polls thing came up.
 
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