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(Washington Post)   Those new GOP/Fox News talking points about "skewed polling numbers" are "a false narrative that encourages the Republican Party to take the wrong lessons from this election, no matter the outcome"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 62
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2012-09-28 01:59:29 PM
6 votes:
Anybody who actually thinks the GOP would moderate themselves should Obama win reelection hasn't been paying attention the last four years.
2012-09-28 01:49:21 PM
5 votes:
the Republican Party to take the wrong lessons from this election

I'm pretty sure they were going to do this even before the skewed polls thing came up.
2012-09-28 05:57:20 PM
4 votes:

baka-san: My 90YO grandpa is going to be voting for Obama...

Life long republican.

WWII vet.

Even he thinks the Republican party has jumped the shark.

I really don't think it will be as close at the polls say.


My dad's the same way. He was a lifelong Republican. My brothers and I grew up with him extolling the virtues of Ronald Reagan regularly. He voted for George W in 2000, but couldn't in 2004. He was a big John McCain fan, but thanks to some of McCain's questionable decisions (Sarah Palin) he voted for Obama.

Now he's become a friggin lefty lib. He listens to progressive talk radio (which even I can't stomach most of the time) and he shows no indication of coming back around to the GOP anytime soon. The party left him.

Mitt Romney has absolutely nothing to offer him or his family.
2012-09-28 02:12:27 PM
4 votes:
The GOP will take away the lesson that the chicken didn't get farked enough.
2012-09-28 01:55:33 PM
4 votes:
the whole derper echo chamber has them taking away the wrong lesson from pretty much every issue and it makes them further and futher out of touch.
2012-09-28 06:46:59 PM
3 votes:

Geotpf: DamnYankees: As I said in the other thread, this is bordering on dangerous territory, where our elections become systematically untrustworthy as every win is seen as illegitimate by the half of the country that loses.

We are already at that stage. At this point, both sides thinks the other side stole the election whenever they lose. (And, yes, lots of Democrats thought and continue to the think that the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen by the Republicans.)


Here's the difference between the two "sides." Democrats generally don't make accusations of stolen elections unless there actually appear to have been irregularities in the election process; Republicans make that accusation any time a Democrat wins by less than seven or eight points.

Also, here's what Democrats do when they get disgruntled about the political process:

ashevilletodo.files.wordpress.com

Here's what Republicans do when they get disgruntled about the political process:

www.kevinalfredstrom.com
2012-09-28 05:54:33 PM
3 votes:

theorellior: There's gonna be blood in the streets in certain places if Romney loses. I'm expecting at least one riot, maybe more. And white people doing it, no less.


Good. Give us an excuse to lock them up.
2012-09-28 02:30:49 PM
3 votes:
I just went to Unskewed Polls. Each one of the poll result leads to an examiner.com page (presumably, written by the guy who runs Unskewed polls).

At the moment, I have my suspicion that Unskewed Polls is just a scam by which the guy gets Examiner.com pageviews, which gets him paid.
2012-09-28 02:05:12 PM
3 votes:
As I said in the other thread, this is bordering on dangerous territory, where our elections become systematically untrustworthy as every win is seen as illegitimate by the half of the country that loses.
2012-09-28 01:56:57 PM
3 votes:
There are no false narratives. There are only narratives that have not yet realized their underlying truth.
2012-09-28 06:52:52 PM
2 votes:
And this is why republican voters are the dumbest bunch of inbred farkers ever to live in a civilized nation.

They KNOW Romney is a horrible candidate. They know his campaign is a disaster and most of them don't even like the farking guy. And they STILL believe the only reason Romney is behind is because of "skewed" polling.
2012-09-28 05:56:45 PM
2 votes:

Serious Black: Anybody who actually thinks the GOP would moderate themselves should Obama win reelection hasn't been paying attention the last four years.


I can't see anything to suggest they will moderate themselves until they get the "perfect ticket" - something like a Santorum/Bachmann type monstrosity. Even after that loses they might just go No True Scotsman and want a mulligan, but that sort of failure is the only real thing I can see triggering the final implosion and split between the GOP machine and the extreme right wing sections (especially if it is as one sided as it should be, it might not if say the Democrats put out a candidate the media takes a dislike too, something like what happened with Kerry or Gore, and ended up with close race). 

/just think - if I am right, it means just like how everyone thought it couldn't get worse than Bush, and then it couldn't get worse than McCain/Palin, I think it will get worse than Romney/Ryan
2012-09-28 05:31:49 PM
2 votes:

EyeballKid: RexTalionis: At the moment, I have my suspicion that Unskewed Polls is just a scam by which the guy gets Examiner.com pageviews, which gets him paid.

Having been on the Fark politics tab for some time, I've never heard of such a scheme.


It's already been explained up above, but if you got to unskewedpolls and click on any of the articles on the left-hand side, you'll find that EVERY single one of them goes to an Examiner article written by Dean Chambers.

This idea is brilliant, BTW, I'm seriously thinking that I could get rich fleecing the right-wing rubes. The fact that you JUST FABRICATE a polling website that shows Romney winning is pure genius. Everyone's clicking, there's ads on the website, and plus links to your Examiner articles. BRILLIANT.

I've got web skills... if anyone has a similarly brilliant idea, for the love of god let's make some money! ;)
2012-09-28 05:28:45 PM
2 votes:

Shaggy_C: Remember when liberals were running around after 2000 claiming that the election was stolen?


It wasn't?
2012-09-28 05:27:18 PM
2 votes:

Shaggy_C: Remember when liberals were running around after 2000 claiming that the election was stolen? Some pretty popular band for people who don't appreciate good music even had a CD titled "Hail to the Thief". They put themselves into such an echo chamber for the next four years that they were shocked - SHOCKED - that they could possibly lose in 2004.

I see the same thing happening to conservatards this time around. "Waaaah how could XX,XXX,XXX people be so STUPID" the NRO will cry.


Except that it seems pretty clear that there were shenanigans in 2000 and possibly again in 2004. They are exactly the same, except oneside may very well have stolen an election and the other not so much. Other than that, exactly the same, yes.
2012-09-28 05:23:56 PM
2 votes:

Shaggy_C: Remember when liberals were running around after 2000 claiming that the election was stolen? Some pretty popular band for people who don't appreciate good music even had a CD titled "Hail to the Thief". They put themselves into such an echo chamber for the next four years that they were shocked - SHOCKED - that they could possibly lose in 2004.

I see the same thing happening to conservatards this time around. "Waaaah how could XX,XXX,XXX people be so STUPID" the NRO will cry.


Wow, now that is dumbass comparison. Good job.
2012-09-28 05:07:51 PM
2 votes:
All this chatter about biased polling is just a desperate attempt to keep turnout high for the sake of the house and senate. Romney is so demotivating right now he could sour Republican turn out across the country and possibly jeopardize some safe house and senate seats. Gotta keep the hope alive.
2012-09-28 04:34:06 PM
2 votes:
Obama winning is trading at 78% on Intrade. I'd like to see someone unskew that tidbit.
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-28 03:58:42 PM
2 votes:

Serious Black: Anybody who actually thinks the GOP would moderate themselves should Obama win reelection hasn't been paying attention the last four years.


They will certainly change course. The red-necks aren't in control of the party, the wealthy are.
2012-09-28 03:55:37 PM
2 votes:
Republicans deluded by 'skewed' polls

FTFY, Headline Writer.
2012-09-28 02:36:08 PM
2 votes:
I think 2008-10 was the death blow to rationality in the GOP.
2012-09-28 02:24:52 PM
2 votes:
I hope they keep purging themselves in order to be more pure.
2012-09-29 12:40:49 PM
1 votes:
Here's a great comment by Barking Pumpkin on Nate Silver's blog:

It's instructive to note that after having cast out fact-checkers earlier this summer as having a nakedly liberal agenda, conservatives have now moved on to claim that almost the entire industry of political pollsters is also bearing false witness against Romney and the Republicans. Indeed, I feel comfortable saying that, right now, "2008 turnout model" and"skewed polls" are rapidly becoming a mindless bromide as popular in right-wing circles as "apologizing for America," "leading from behind," and "you didn't build that." One such right-winger has even gone so far as to redress all this liberal bias by creating a new poll-tracking site, called somewhat unfortunately, "unskewed polls," that performs a kind of conservative exegesis on every survey released by the mainstream media.

Here, in this alternate reality, you'd see that Romney is enjoying a healthy, eight-percentage point lead over Obama nationally, rather than suffering a four-point deficit. Of course, these claims of biased, or skewed polling are both ridiculous and wrong, but foreswearing sagacity and veracity with ferocity and velocity is by now old hat for conservatives. But with this new polling-is-pseudo-science meme, we can add another constellation in the parallel universe that conservatives increasingly inhabit, one populated with other elaborately constructed myths about everything fromclimate change to evolutionary theory to tax cuts and economic growth to the female reproductive system.
2012-09-29 08:57:32 AM
1 votes:

Arachnophobe: Altitude5280: The guy who runs UnScewed polls looks exactly like you would expect him to look. Link

[talkingpointsmemo.com image 300x300][i1126.photobucket.com image 336x333]


talkingpointsmemo.com imageshack.us
2012-09-29 05:36:44 AM
1 votes:

Summoner101: Sabyen91: Summoner101: Sabyen91: Summoner101: deadcrickets: Hey Theaetetus, remember how you said there was no proof the girl was hired by them and all your other BS to protect that one guy?

Link

Life sucks doesn't it?

So are we still conflating voter registration fraud and voter fraud? Is that still a thing?

Ohhh, I see, now. Things seemed turned around but life now makes sense. Deadcrickets is a lying ass and Theaetus was calling him out for being a lying ass. I am STILL not sure how his clip makes the right look good.

Uh... sure? To be honest, I don't really have a horse in this race. I've just been seeing this issue pop up more and more lately, and people keep calling it voter fraud when it's still, as near as I can tell, voter registration fraud. So even though one side complained when the tactic was used against ACORN, they're going to use the same tactic against these folk.

/Though, all things considered, the ACORN issue had to do with certain canvassers falsifying registration forms for a quick paycheck which ACORN didn't have any choice but to submit to the local government. This one ostensibly worse as they're actively disenfranchising one voting demographic seemingly from the top-down of the organization.

The difference appears to be ACORN flagged those false registrations themselves. By law they had to keep them but they flagged them as questionable.

And you are correct. I should have mentioned that in the rundown.


Sabyen is extremely confused. In the original thread I explained how she had technically broken the law but not the spirit and would not be arrested. I also explained how more than likely she was hired by the Republican who worked at the County Clerk "unofficially" and her testimony and the video would help to expose the fraud. Fast forward to what was just revealed and how it begins to tie in. I was proven right. Sabyen is most likely extremely butthurt that I ran circles around them all in regards to criminal law and political intrigue.
2012-09-29 03:01:36 AM
1 votes:

vernonFL: The GOP will take away the lesson that the chicken didn't get farked enough.


www.jamesjoyce.co.uk

They're already bracing for it. They already have the narrative carefully composed--that they could have won if only they pandered even harder to the Talibangelicals, the racists, the most vicious Ayn Rand disciples and the batfark-insane conspiracy theorists. And after November, they're going to double down hunting for RINOs and the politically moderate to eject from the party and they're going to move even farther to the right, into places even the John Birchers fear to tread.

I think that we're seeing the creation of the political party of Nehemiah Scudder right before our eyes, folks.
2012-09-28 08:43:27 PM
1 votes:
Numbers are temporary, and we all know the stupid shiat that romney said could be forgotten, campaign energy ebbs and flows. Maybe Obama could do some horrible thing and Romney would be the only choice.

Here is what pisses me off, when Romney might have been slightly leading, it is throw in everybody's face that Obama was going to loose.

Now that Romney has said stupid things and is losing the numbers, the numbers are no longer real. Lalala, we can't hear you.
2012-09-28 08:04:25 PM
1 votes:
"Learning from mistakes" isn't something the GOP is known for. Stay the course, double down and blame the media, yes. Admit a mistake? Not so much.
2012-09-28 08:00:55 PM
1 votes:

doctor wu: justtray: theorellior: There's gonna be blood in the streets in certain places if Romney loses. I'm expecting at least one riot, maybe more. And white people doing it, no less.

Good. Give us an excuse to lock them up.


Yes, it's hard to believe such rage, no matter how incoherent, will simply dissipate. These degenerates' commitment to being on the wrong side of history seems pretty genuine and it only takes one Jethro in the grip of some weapons-grade end-times fervor to set off a chain of events.


The chain of events has already started. The number of right wing domestic terrorist incidents at least appears to be going through the roof. We had someone kill the abortion doctor Tiller, we had the guy who went and shot a bunch of brown people at their place of worship, etc etc, I'm sure there's dozens more incidents.

The next step is really coordinated terrorism between more than just one or two people. Not sure it will happen, but I certainly don't rule it out. Especially when the Teabaggers are rocking signs like "we came unarmed, this time." I really do hope they come armed the next time, so that there won't be a time after that.
2012-09-28 07:12:27 PM
1 votes:

Tusz: vygramul: mrshowrules: Obama winning is trading at 78% on Intrade. I'd like to see someone unskew that tidbit.

In the Iowa election markets, he's trading at $0.82 and Romney at $0.18. Economic conservatives are supposed to believe that money talks, bullshiat walks. Except when they don't like it, of course.

So what's the legality of betting on US elections, anyway? Betting on Obama seems like free money at this point.


The University of Iowa got an exemption from the laws banning gambling on the election. Anyone can open an account for $5-$500.
2012-09-28 07:11:38 PM
1 votes:
Every time I watch Fox they have some poll showing the race is neck and neck. Same with sites my wishfully thinking conservative friends look at.

Better to go with this and see ALL the polls.
2012-09-28 06:49:02 PM
1 votes:

birchman: The All-Powerful Atheismo: The Onion is prophetic: the Republican Party to take the wrong lessons from this election

I'm pretty sure they were going to do this even before the skewed polls thing came up.

Which wrong lesson?

"Win at all costs" or "Be more conservative"?

Well standard operating procedure for the GOP for the last few decades has been to blame the media whenever they lose, because there's no way it can be their policies since they are the party of Jesus. Expect even more (didn't know it was possible) liberal media derp, continued voter suppression tactics, and probably the derpiest candidate ever imagined in 2016.


DERPY 2016

i6.photobucket.com

WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WENT WRONG.... BUT IT'S ALL OBAMA'S FAULT.
2012-09-28 06:48:00 PM
1 votes:

spman: Hyperbole and vitriol. Liberals and Democrats were saying all of those exact same things in 2004.


Um, no. They were talking about leaving the country.
2012-09-28 06:43:20 PM
1 votes:

Geotpf: DamnYankees: As I said in the other thread, this is bordering on dangerous territory, where our elections become systematically untrustworthy as every win is seen as illegitimate by the half of the country that loses.

We are already at that stage. At this point, both sides thinks the other side stole the election whenever they lose. (And, yes, lots of Democrats thought and continue to the think that the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen by the Republicans.)


But they did steal the election in 2000. I didn't realize that was still a debate. I mean, the supreme court decided that Bush was the winner...

"In one of the closest contests in U.S. history, the 2000 presidential election between Democratic Vice-President Al Gore and Republican governor of Texas George W. Bush (hereafter referred to as Bush Jr. to distinguish him from his father who was also a president), the final outcome hinged on how the vote went in Florida. Independent investigations in that state revealed serious irregularities directed mostly against ethnic minorities and low-income residents who usually voted heavily Democratic. Some 36,000 newly registered voters were turned away because their names had never been added to the voter rolls by Florida's secretary of state Kathleen Harris. By virtue of the office she held, Harris presided over the state's election process while herself being an active member of the Bush Jr. state-wide campaign committee. Other voters were turned away because they were declared--almost always incorrectly--"convicted felons." In several Democratic precincts, state officials closed the polls early, leaving lines of would-be voters stranded"

http://www.michaelparenti.org/stolenelections.html

I'm sure I can find infinitely more sources if you want to move the goalposts or attack the messager.
2012-09-28 06:26:16 PM
1 votes:

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The escape-into-fantasy tactic the right-wing is taking in this election is frightening. At least they were aware they were losing with McCain/Palin. I fear bagger-retribution when Romney fails to win with >500 electoral votes.


1.bp.blogspot.com

2.bp.blogspot.com

It happened WAY before this election.
2012-09-28 06:10:30 PM
1 votes:
ROMNEY'S WINNING NO MATTER WHAT LALALALALALLALALALALA SUCK IT LIBS LALALALALALLALALALALALLA
2012-09-28 05:57:51 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: There's gonna be blood in the streets in certain places if Romney loses. I'm expecting at least one riot, maybe more. And white people doing it, no less.


No. Facebook and a bunch of other sites will be unusable for weeks, but the TV effect will do to them what it has done to everyone else in this country- keep us from rising up.
2012-09-28 05:54:55 PM
1 votes:

Quasar: "We lost because we ran a pantywaisted moderate"

Get ready to hear that for a few years. They're going to tack even harder right if they lose.


Yes but with this it's also going to be:

"We lost because of clear election fraud perpetrated by the Obama campaign. Why, the unskewed data showed Romney winning in a landslide!"
2012-09-28 05:52:19 PM
1 votes:
The escape-into-fantasy tactic the right-wing is taking in this election is frightening. At least they were aware they were losing with McCain/Palin. I fear bagger-retribution when Romney fails to win with >500 electoral votes.
2012-09-28 05:42:40 PM
1 votes:

vygramul: DamnYankees: As I said in the other thread, this is bordering on dangerous territory, where our elections become systematically untrustworthy as every win is seen as illegitimate by the half of the country that loses.

Or the result of widespread voter fraud that needs "fixing".


Fixing needed to save the country, the culture, and Christianity from a global conspiracy of Islamists, communists and heathens that will stop at nothing to crush their common enemy: real AmericansTM.


/trying very hard not to godwin this thread
2012-09-28 05:41:55 PM
1 votes:
America saw what happened in 2010 and said, "fark THAT"
2012-09-28 05:37:25 PM
1 votes:
dilbert.com

This is basically what Mitt's campaign team is probably telling him right now as far as how he can still win
2012-09-28 05:33:52 PM
1 votes:
2/3 of this great nation is Republican and only when 2/3 of those polled are republicans will the result be fair and balanced. We're going by land area, right?
2012-09-28 05:29:59 PM
1 votes:
November 6 at Fox News HQ

old.bfi.org.uk

/Hot like Ailes ginning up legitimacy issues
2012-09-28 05:27:49 PM
1 votes:
shock and denial.

only 6 more stages of grief left for the republicans.
2012-09-28 05:27:30 PM
1 votes:

Shaggy_C: Remember when liberals were running around after 2000 claiming that the election was stolen? Some pretty popular band for people who don't appreciate good music even had a CD titled "Hail to the Thief". They put themselves into such an echo chamber for the next four years that they were shocked - SHOCKED - that they could possibly lose in 2004.

I see the same thing happening to conservatards this time around. "Waaaah how could XX,XXX,XXX people be so STUPID" the NRO will cry.


I have to wonder how people would have reacted if Nate Silver existed in 2000 or 2004 and was able to accurately predict 49 of the 50 states beforehand. I think it would have made a difference. If Silver accurately predicts this election with such precision as he did in 2008, it should be a game changing paradigm shift in how we talk about presidential elections.
2012-09-28 05:26:17 PM
1 votes:
The polling experts at Free Republic have been "unskewing" the polls for a while. Basically, whatever percentage Obama is leading by is the amount by which the pollsters overssampled Democrats. Rasmussen was a good and reliable poll until it had Obama ahead. Now it's also wrong.

The pollsters and the media are under orders to report Obama is leading to lay the foundation to scream "fraud" when Romney wins in a landslide. And he will because he's actually up by 18-25%.

Also, Obama campaign appearances in swing states are because he knows he's losing in those states and proof that Romney is ahead.

Freeper logic, you can't explain it.
2012-09-28 05:11:34 PM
1 votes:
I will cover all bets on a 50/50 payout against Obama.

Any cowardly hypocrites up for the challenge? (by hypocrites I mean Republicans of course)
2012-09-28 05:10:08 PM
1 votes:
The GOP, by design almost, takes the wrong lessons from ANY election, no matter the outcome. Every election is a validation of their current belief set from the American people, regardless of vote count.
2012-09-28 05:07:56 PM
1 votes:
I've been wondering for a while now that if the polls are such bullshiat, then why even make your own poll? The conclusion is discredited by the premise.
2012-09-28 04:50:02 PM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Obama winning is trading at 78% on Intrade. I'd like to see someone unskew that tidbit.


In the Iowa election markets, he's trading at $0.82 and Romney at $0.18. Economic conservatives are supposed to believe that money talks, bullshiat walks. Except when they don't like it, of course.
2012-09-28 03:50:45 PM
1 votes:

spman: If the exact same campaign had been run by Chris Christie or Mike Huckabee, I think the outcome would probably be different.


The thing is though, you couldn't run the exact same campaign with Chris Christie. He would be yelling at reporters instead of making odd comments about trees being the right height. Huckabee would at least come off as a genuine individual and give concrete (albeit insane) policy ideas. Romney's a one-of-a-kind guy whose personal oddities make his campaign something special and it can't be reproduced.
2012-09-28 03:45:54 PM
1 votes:

spman: I'm still not willing to totally begin to write Romney's obituary yet, but we're getting close, and crazier things have happened, but I'm not so sure if the problem was with GOP's message or ideas, so much as Romney just isn't a likable sort of guy. If the exact same campaign had been run by Chris Christie or Mike Huckabee, I think the outcome would probably be different.

Clearly the lessons of 2004 went unheeded. This was the GOP's election to lose, a sluggish economy, high unemployment, and a sitting president with a dismal approval rating meant that this election by all rights should have been an easy knockout. Unfortunately all the best contenders decided to sit this one out and try their luck against what will likely be a much weaker lineup of competitors that the Democrats will field in 2016, for better or for worse. Oh well, what are ya gonna do?


have you looked at the polling data?

electoral-vote.com

347 Obama, 191 Romney - WITH RASMUSSEN INCLUDED
2012-09-28 03:27:05 PM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: As I said in the other thread, this is bordering on dangerous territory, where our elections become systematically untrustworthy as every win is seen as illegitimate by the half of the country that loses.


blogs.e-rockford.com
2012-09-28 03:06:55 PM
1 votes:

Elandriel: I think that the Democratic voters across the country would lament the idiocy of those who would elect such a simpering fool, but not really go as far as to say "stolen" or illegitimate or whatever.


Unless Florida screws the election again.
2012-09-28 02:47:23 PM
1 votes:

Quasar: "We lost because we ran a pantywaisted moderate"

Get ready to hear that for a few years. They're going to tack even harder right if they lose.


Exactly and.

"We lost because what he was mumbling in that fundraiser behind closed doors, he should have been shouting from the podium all along"
2012-09-28 02:44:30 PM
1 votes:

RexTalionis: EyeballKid: RexTalionis: At the moment, I have my suspicion that Unskewed Polls is just a scam by which the guy gets Examiner.com pageviews, which gets him paid.

Having been on the Fark politics tab for some time, I've never heard of such a scheme.

Okay, Examiner.com is a news site that functions by having people sign up as contributors. The contributors write stories reporting the news, which is published to the Examiner website (actually, the regional site for the Examiner - for instance, a New York based writer would write for the New York website on Examiner.com).

There is no editorial control over what is published on Examiner.com, the way it works is that whenever there's a click to an examiner.com page, the contributor who writes the page gets paid a certain amount (a few pennies, generally). If you generate tens of thousands of clicks, you can get paid quite a bit if you publish multiple articles on examiner.com every day.

That's why a lot of writers for Examiner.com tend to write hyperbolic hyperpartisan articles - they tend attract the most page views and the most clicks. And, because there is no "editor" making decisions on what gets published and what doesn't, there is almost nothing to stop someone from writing hoax stories or outright lies on that website, which has happened many times already.

Seriously, look it up.


Didn't FARK have an issue a while back with some guy who got his own Examiner articles greenlit like five times a day or something?
2012-09-28 02:42:41 PM
1 votes:

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Serious Black: Anybody who actually thinks the GOP would moderate themselves should Obama win reelection hasn't been paying attention the last four years.

I fear that you are correct.

I suspect they're ridin' this puppy straight into the ground.


YEEEE-HAWWW
www.hobbyistblogs.com
2012-09-28 02:42:24 PM
1 votes:

Big Red Al: Until next week, Rasmussen is reweighting their polls, so expect a big swing for Romney next week (real or imagined).


Historically, Rasmussen's polling trends closer to average as it gets closer to the election. It's going to be funny when they reweight, causing a cascade of Obama leading on unskewed polls. At which point we will need true_and_honest_unskewed polls to come in an find another nonsensical data transformation that will favor Romney.
2012-09-28 02:39:34 PM
1 votes:

EyeballKid: RexTalionis: At the moment, I have my suspicion that Unskewed Polls is just a scam by which the guy gets Examiner.com pageviews, which gets him paid.

Having been on the Fark politics tab for some time, I've never heard of such a scheme.


Okay, Examiner.com is a news site that functions by having people sign up as contributors. The contributors write stories reporting the news, which is published to the Examiner website (actually, the regional site for the Examiner - for instance, a New York based writer would write for the New York website on Examiner.com).

There is no editorial control over what is published on Examiner.com, the way it works is that whenever there's a click to an examiner.com page, the contributor who writes the page gets paid a certain amount (a few pennies, generally). If you generate tens of thousands of clicks, you can get paid quite a bit if you publish multiple articles on examiner.com every day.

That's why a lot of writers for Examiner.com tend to write hyperbolic hyperpartisan articles - they tend attract the most page views and the most clicks. And, because there is no "editor" making decisions on what gets published and what doesn't, there is almost nothing to stop someone from writing hoax stories or outright lies on that website, which has happened many times already.

Seriously, look it up.
2012-09-28 02:37:44 PM
1 votes:
This is just setting up for a whole bunch ignorant half-wits being completely convinced that the election was stolen, with all the implications that that carries.
2012-09-28 02:13:21 PM
1 votes:
"We lost because we ran a pantywaisted moderate"

Get ready to hear that for a few years. They're going to tack even harder right if they lose.
 
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