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(Politico)   Although it can't be summed up on a bumper sticker, Jim Webb delivers the harshest rebuke yet of Romney's 47% statement. Tag is for the veterans   (politico.com) divider line 133
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2012-09-28 10:16:28 AM
Disgusting. Link
 
2012-09-28 10:21:48 AM
I think it's clear that Romney not only doesn't care about vets and currently serving soldiers, he has open contempt for them. So all you republicans with your magnetic ribbons on your SUVs can go fark yourselves.

/that doesn't even get into the fact that he has every intention of invading Iran and basically anything Israel tells him, by his own words
//President Romney= a shiatton of dead soldiers and nothing for the ones who make it back
///brilliant move, vets for Romney.
 
2012-09-28 10:25:48 AM
It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.
 
2012-09-28 10:26:23 AM

Mugato: I think it's clear that Romney not only doesn't care about vets and currently serving soldiers, he has open contempt for them. So all you republicans with your magnetic ribbons on your SUVs can go fark yourselves.

/that doesn't even get into the fact that he has every intention of invading Iran and basically anything Israel tells him, by his own words
//President Romney= a shiatton of dead soldiers and nothing for the ones who make it back
///brilliant move, vets for Romney.


And yet, I know vets that will vote for Romney no matter what. go figure, right?
 
2012-09-28 10:26:49 AM
romney wants a meat-grinder war with iran, but he wants to cut veterans' benefits. fark him. and fark everyone like him.
 
2012-09-28 10:27:59 AM
What you libs fail to acknowledge is Mitt Romney's hardships during the Vietnam war, like having to deal with the ghastly French and having to acquire cash via negotiable instruments sent to him by his family.

Where is his parade?
 
2012-09-28 10:32:23 AM

BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.


I've always expected he would run for President someday. I didn't know he was retiring.
 
2012-09-28 10:32:35 AM

sigdiamond2000: What you libs fail to acknowledge is Mitt Romney's hardships during the Vietnam war, like having to deal with the ghastly French and having to acquire cash via negotiable instruments sent to him by his family.

Where is his parade?

"There were no letters from home," Bush continues. "The money at the time came via check. That was our lifeline was getting letters from home."


Sure, the guys in Vietnam were hiding out in a steaming jungle and getting shot at, but I won't minimize the difficulty of cashing a non-local check in France.
 
2012-09-28 10:40:57 AM

sigdiamond2000: What you libs fail to acknowledge is Mitt Romney's hardships during the Vietnam war, like having to deal with the ghastly French and having to acquire cash via negotiable instruments sent to him by his family.

Where is his parade?



And don't forget all those heavy sauces on everything.
 
2012-09-28 10:51:17 AM

Sybarite: sigdiamond2000: What you libs fail to acknowledge is Mitt Romney's hardships during the Vietnam war, like having to deal with the ghastly French and having to acquire cash via negotiable instruments sent to him by his family.

Where is his parade?


And don't forget all those heavy sauces on everything.


www.homevideos.com
 
2012-09-28 11:00:24 AM
Only two pics you need on this guy:

4.bp.blogspot.com

www.straight.com
Romney in France during Vietnam War

Of course, I could probably find a pic of Romney being silent while the audience at the GOP Primaries debated booed a veteran.
 
2012-09-28 11:03:31 AM
Coming from Jim Webb, that really burns.
 
2012-09-28 11:20:09 AM

MrBallou: 've always expected he would run for President someday. I didn't know he was retiring.


I guess I just meant retiring from the Senate. I don't know about future plans. Maybe he is Sec Def in Obama's second term.
 
2012-09-28 11:25:56 AM

mrshowrules: Only two pics you need on this guy:

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Romney in France during Vietnam War

Of course, I could probably find a pic of Romney being silent while the audience at the GOP Primaries debated booed a veteran.


i575.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-28 11:32:56 AM
I appreciated Webb's restraint in not just screaming DODGER!
 
2012-09-28 11:34:11 AM
How did Democrats go from the "draft-dodging" Clinton to dominance in matters of foreign policy and military credibility? One too many purple heart band-aids I guess.
 
2012-09-28 11:40:03 AM

Weaver95: And yet, I know vets that will vote for Romney no matter what. go figure, right?


ALL the vets I know are posting OBAMMUNIST OMG REDISTRIBUTION LOL pretty much daily on their Facebook feeds.
 
2012-09-28 11:41:22 AM

Lumpmoose: How did Democrats go from the "draft-dodging" Clinton to dominance in matters of foreign policy and military credibility? One too many purple heart band-aids I guess.


More likely, one to many invasions of countries that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 and that ended up costing us a trillion dollars while destabilizing the Middle East even more.
 
2012-09-28 11:47:29 AM

unlikely: Weaver95: And yet, I know vets that will vote for Romney no matter what. go figure, right?

ALL the vets I know are posting OBAMMUNIST OMG REDISTRIBUTION LOL pretty much daily on their Facebook feeds.


I've got a batshiat insane Marine (is there any other kind) friend that varies between that and Republicans forcing God on everyone. It gets bizarre at times.

Fun story about this guy: I got him to pour salt into his own eye in 7th grade. By asking him to.
 
2012-09-28 11:53:46 AM
Does anybody seriously believe that Romney has any respect for people that go into the military? He sees them as poor people that are just trying to soak up more government tax dollars.
 
2012-09-28 11:54:37 AM

Lando Lincoln: Does anybody seriously believe that Romney has any respect for people that go into the military? He sees them as poor people that are just trying to soak up more government tax dollars.


Worse yet, as a businessman he sees them as a big expense.
 
2012-09-28 12:00:38 PM

St_Francis_P: Lando Lincoln: Does anybody seriously believe that Romney has any respect for people that go into the military? He sees them as poor people that are just trying to soak up more government tax dollars.

Worse yet, as a businessman he sees them as a big expense.


not true - i'm sure Romney views the military the same way most GOP insiders see them: as expendable resources. see, you need poor people - if you can't put them into workhouses (yet) then you can give them the illusion of hope and slightly better pay...and point them at your enemies. that way you channel aggression away from yourself, cause your enemies all sorts of problems AND might even gain new resources for your corporate machine.

of course, the problem is that not all of your expendables are going to end up dead...but that's ok, you just have to keep tabs on 'em and make sure they don't organize once they're out of the military. cut medical services and encourage them to believe that seeking help for mental health issues is a 'weakness', then flood the streets with cheap addictive and highly illegal drugs. that should lock them into a cycle of addiction/shame and keep them off your back.

easy peasey, up and easy.
 
2012-09-28 12:03:24 PM

Weaver95: St_Francis_P: Lando Lincoln: Does anybody seriously believe that Romney has any respect for people that go into the military? He sees them as poor people that are just trying to soak up more government tax dollars.

Worse yet, as a businessman he sees them as a big expense.

not true - i'm sure Romney views the military the same way most GOP insiders see them: as expendable resources. see, you need poor people - if you can't put them into workhouses (yet) then you can give them the illusion of hope and slightly better pay...and point them at your enemies. that way you channel aggression away from yourself, cause your enemies all sorts of problems AND might even gain new resources for your corporate machine.

of course, the problem is that not all of your expendables are going to end up dead...but that's ok, you just have to keep tabs on 'em and make sure they don't organize once they're out of the military. cut medical services and encourage them to believe that seeking help for mental health issues is a 'weakness', then flood the streets with cheap addictive and highly illegal drugs. that should lock them into a cycle of addiction/shame and keep them off your back.

easy peasey, up and easy.


We're saying the same thing: use them when needed, and dispose of them when possible. That's what a good businessman does.
 
2012-09-28 12:43:12 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Disgusting. Link


If I didn't already want to punch him in the balls, that would do it.
 
2012-09-28 12:55:39 PM
And to compound our national shame over Vietnam, it looks as though we'll never elect a president who served there. The American political class like to talk about having "skin in the game" when it comes to taxes, yet as a body they sure seem to be resistant to life choices that could give them the perspective of the troops they claim so much to care about.
 
2012-09-28 12:59:09 PM
Romney is a morally bankrupt sub-human sack of shiat. His supporters are pig ignorant farkwits dragging down the entire human race, and that's the good ones. The remainder are evil scum who should be incinerated or driven into the sea.
 
2012-09-28 01:04:04 PM

brianbankerus: I appreciated Webb's restraint in not just screaming DODGER!


Funny how so many now-hawkish conservatives avoided Vietnam...

Mitt Romney - educational and religious deferment
G.W. Bush - national guard hero
Dick Cheney - educational deferment
Karl Rove - educational deferment
Rush Limbaugh - medical deferment (a cyst on his ass. seriously.)
Ted Nugent - educational deferment
Bill O'Reilly - educational deferment
 
2012-09-28 01:06:28 PM

BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.


What's even worse is that we get either dumb or dumber to replace him.

It's times like these one really wishes for a viable third party candidate.
 
2012-09-28 01:13:06 PM

FirstNationalBastard: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

What's even worse is that we get either dumb or dumber to replace him.

It's times like these one really wishes for a viable third party candidate.


Seriously, WTF is with Virginia? I'ts like a revolving door between the Governor's Mansion and the US Senate.
 
2012-09-28 01:14:25 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: brianbankerus: I appreciated Webb's restraint in not just screaming DODGER!

Funny how so many now-hawkish conservatives avoided Vietnam...

Mitt Romney - educational and religious deferment
G.W. Bush - national guard hero
Dick Cheney - educational deferment
Karl Rove - educational deferment
Rush Limbaugh - medical deferment (a cyst on his ass. seriously.)
Ted Nugent - educational deferment
Bill O'Reilly - educational deferment


True. FYI, Cheney had 5 deferments.
 
2012-09-28 01:17:24 PM

Mugato: I think it's clear that Romney not only doesn't care about vets and currently serving soldiers, he has open contempt for them. So all you republicans with your magnetic ribbons on your SUVs can go fark yourselves.

/that doesn't even get into the fact that he has every intention of invading Iran and basically anything Israel tells him, by his own words
//President Romney= a shiatton of dead soldiers and nothing for the ones who make it back
///brilliant move, vets for Romney.


While searching for something else yesterday, I came across a profile for one of Romney's senior advisors, the guy who is presumed to become his Chief of Staff should he win. Former MN Rep Vin Weber. Weber is a neocon warhawk
 
2012-09-28 01:20:13 PM

propasaurus: Former MN Rep Vin Weber. Weber is a neocon warhawk


Vin Weber - medical deferment (asthma)
 
2012-09-28 01:24:11 PM

propasaurus: Mugato: I think it's clear that Romney not only doesn't care about vets and currently serving soldiers, he has open contempt for them. So all you republicans with your magnetic ribbons on your SUVs can go fark yourselves.

/that doesn't even get into the fact that he has every intention of invading Iran and basically anything Israel tells him, by his own words
//President Romney= a shiatton of dead soldiers and nothing for the ones who make it back
///brilliant move, vets for Romney.

While searching for something else yesterday, I came across a profile for one of Romney's senior advisors, the guy who is presumed to become his Chief of Staff should he win. Former MN Rep Vin Weber. Weber is a neocon warhawk

from way back. He's one of the founders of the Project for a New American Century, and along with Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and others authored the PNAC letter to Pres. Clinton urging the removal of Saddam Hussein from Iraq.
He's also known in DC as a 'superlobbyist' and one of his clients is Ukraine, which explains why Romney keeps mention Russia.
It is abundantly clear that Romney has surrounded himself with Bush/Cheney neocons, itching for a fight with Iran.
 
2012-09-28 01:25:50 PM

Weaver95: Mugato: I think it's clear that Romney not only doesn't care about vets and currently serving soldiers, he has open contempt for them. So all you republicans with your magnetic ribbons on your SUVs can go fark yourselves.

/that doesn't even get into the fact that he has every intention of invading Iran and basically anything Israel tells him, by his own words
//President Romney= a shiatton of dead soldiers and nothing for the ones who make it back
///brilliant move, vets for Romney.

And yet, I know vets that will vote for Romney no matter what. go figure, right?


Vets are brave and courageous men, but that doesn't make them any smarter than the rest of us.
 
2012-09-28 01:25:51 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Disgusting. Link


I mean I could be wrong here, but weren't the republicans JUST cutting veteran benefits?
 
2012-09-28 01:26:56 PM
He could also mention Romney hiding in France to avoid the draft. That alone should have made him disliked by 100% of the country.
 
2012-09-28 01:28:06 PM
Romney said "47% of the people who will vote for the president" meaning 47% of the people who will vote for OBAMA.

Its farking comedy gold: 95% of the farking population is SOOOOO stupid that they think Romney is dumb and they can't comprehend english!
 
2012-09-28 01:28:19 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Disgusting. Link


Oh, go ahead Mitt! Piss the vets off now!

Good Christ I hope Obama hands him his ass on a platter at the debates. Then shows it to the every GOP voter to show how farking stupid they are.
 
2012-09-28 01:28:51 PM
i234.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-28 01:29:19 PM
Romney actually called his missionary work in France serving his nation to a military vet.

What an ass.
 
2012-09-28 01:29:48 PM

prjindigo: Romney said "47% of the people who will vote for the president" meaning 47% of the people who will vote for OBAMA.

Its farking comedy gold: 95% of the farking population is SOOOOO stupid that they think Romney is dumb and they can't comprehend english!


No, you farking disingenuous troll.


"There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what.
"And I mean the President starts off with 49, 49...he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. 47% of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn't connect.
"So he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean, that's what they sell every 4 years. And so my job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.
"What I have to do is convince the 5% to 10% that are independents, that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or another depending upon in some cases emotion, whether they like the guy or not."
 
2012-09-28 01:32:16 PM

prjindigo: Romney said "47% of the people who will vote for the president" meaning 47% of the people who will vote for OBAMA.

Its farking comedy gold: 95% of the farking population is SOOOOO stupid that they think Romney is dumb and they can't comprehend english!


It's true. Everyone else is dumb and you are the only one smart enough to figure it out. Like Copernicus you stand, alone and brave, the truth's true champion and defender.

Or you're just a pointless farking idiot. One or the other.
 
2012-09-28 01:32:22 PM

Corvus: Romney actually called his missionary work in France serving his nation to a military vet.

What an ass.


Sure, and when asked why none of his sons was serving in the military, he said that they were serving their country by working on his campaign.
 
2012-09-28 01:32:43 PM
It's a shame Webb is leaving. From what I've read he just doesn't have the temperament to be a politician and simply hated the bullshiat.

If for no other reason, we owe him a debt of gratitude for getting George Allen out of public office, hopefully permanently.
 
2012-09-28 01:33:29 PM

doyner: FirstNationalBastard: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

What's even worse is that we get either dumb or dumber to replace him.

It's times like these one really wishes for a viable third party candidate.

Seriously, WTF is with Virginia? I'ts like a revolving door between the Governor's Mansion and the US Senate.


That's due to a quirk in State Law. There isn't a limit on the terms you can serve as Gov, but there is a limit on consecutive terms you can serve.
 
2012-09-28 01:34:45 PM

BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.


It's a shame a principled person is retiring from politics, regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum. However, we have all too many moderates - they're 95% of the Democratic party. What we need are some fire breathing liberals rather than just blue dogs and those who are cast as liberal simply because they aren't as extreme as what the GOP has become these days.
 
2012-09-28 01:34:46 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: brianbankerus: I appreciated Webb's restraint in not just screaming DODGER!

Funny how so many now-hawkish conservatives avoided Vietnam...

Mitt Romney - educational and religious deferment
G.W. Bush - national guard hero
Dick Cheney - educational deferment
Karl Rove - educational deferment
Rush Limbaugh - medical deferment (a cyst on his ass. seriously.)
Ted Nugent - educational deferment
Bill O'Reilly - educational deferment

Ted Nugent - shiatting himself during the medical exam.
 
2012-09-28 01:35:35 PM

doyner: And to compound our national shame over Vietnam, it looks as though we'll never elect a president who served there. The American political class like to talk about having "skin in the game" when it comes to taxes, yet as a body they sure seem to be resistant to life choices that could give them the perspective of the troops they claim so much to care about.


We've had the chance. Apparently, voters are happier denigrating purple hearts.

// seems that the Vietnam war is still a bit of a fractious topic
// just not in the way anyone predicted
// and fark Saxby Chambliss in every farkable way, in every farkable orifice
 
2012-09-28 01:36:33 PM

Karac: Ted Nugent - shiatting himself during the medical exam.


From what we now know about Ted, that may simply be his typical behavior.
 
2012-09-28 01:37:03 PM
sure everyone talks about Rmoney not serving, but did Obama? NO! he was like 8 years old or whatever and back from his birth in Kenya. He could have beat a drum like in that picture of when america fought the japanese to win our independence.
 
2012-09-28 01:37:06 PM
Although it can't be summed up on a bumper sticker, Jim Webb delivers the harshest rebuke yet of Romney's 47% statement. Tag is for the veterans

I don't know what subby is talking about. "Go fark yourself with splintered balsa wood" would be a little tight, but you could make it fit.
 
2012-09-28 01:37:40 PM

metztli: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

It's a shame a principled person is retiring from politics, regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum. However, we have all too many moderates - they're 95% of the Democratic party. What we need are some fire breathing liberals rather than just blue dogs and those who are cast as liberal simply because they aren't as extreme as what the GOP has become these days.


That might be true but you're going to have to look to a state other than Virginia to send fire-breathing liberals to Capitol Hill.
 
2012-09-28 01:38:01 PM

BritneysSpeculum: Lumpmoose: How did Democrats go from the "draft-dodging" Clinton to dominance in matters of foreign policy and military credibility? One too many purple heart band-aids I guess.

More likely, one to many invasions of countries that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 and that ended up costing us a trillion dollars while destabilizing the Middle East even more.


The purple heart bandaids did not help the teabagger cause.
 
2012-09-28 01:38:41 PM

Corvus: Romney actually called his missionary work in France serving his nation to a military vet.

What an ass.


Did you see the CNN documentary on Romney. They had a whole segment about how he almost lost his life in the dangerous work he was doing in France.

I shiat you not. They describe a car accident that he wasn't hurt in like an ambush by Charlie north of the DMZ.
 
2012-09-28 01:38:51 PM
And now the GOP is blocking a bill in the senate to provide veterans with an annual cost-of-living adjustment (link), and they blocked a veterans' jobs bill (link).
 
2012-09-28 01:38:55 PM

doyner: FirstNationalBastard: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

What's even worse is that we get either dumb or dumber to replace him.

It's times like these one really wishes for a viable third party candidate.

Seriously, WTF is with Virginia? I'ts like a revolving door between the Governor's Mansion and the US Senate.


Governors cannot hold consecutive terms in Virginia. They can hold multiple terms, just not multiple consecutive terms.
 
2012-09-28 01:39:00 PM

St_Francis_P: Karac: Ted Nugent - shiatting himself during the medical exam.

From what we now know about Ted, that may simply be his typical behavior.


He was quite clear in his account of that episode that it was not normal behavior for him. He had to practice for several weeks beforehand.
 
2012-09-28 01:40:34 PM

GAT_00: I've got a batshiat insane Marine (is there any other kind)...


Yes.
 
2012-09-28 01:40:49 PM

Karac: St_Francis_P: Karac: Ted Nugent - shiatting himself during the medical exam.

From what we now know about Ted, that may simply be his typical behavior.

He was quite clear in his account of that episode that it was not normal behavior for him. He had to practice for several weeks beforehand.


Your sarcasm meter calibration is due.
 
2012-09-28 01:41:05 PM
I have gone from meh, to this guy is kindova prick, to wow what an asshole, to JESUS farkING CHRIST I HOPE I AM NEVER IN THE SAME ROOM AS THIS MOTHER FARKER.
there is not a likable kilobyte in this dude.
 
2012-09-28 01:41:19 PM

EighthDay: doyner: FirstNationalBastard: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

What's even worse is that we get either dumb or dumber to replace him.

It's times like these one really wishes for a viable third party candidate.

Seriously, WTF is with Virginia? I'ts like a revolving door between the Governor's Mansion and the US Senate.

Governors cannot hold consecutive terms in Virginia. They can hold multiple terms, just not multiple consecutive terms.


That seems strange and a little counter-productive.
 
2012-09-28 01:44:37 PM

qorkfiend: EighthDay: doyner: FirstNationalBastard: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

What's even worse is that we get either dumb or dumber to replace him.

It's times like these one really wishes for a viable third party candidate.

Seriously, WTF is with Virginia? I'ts like a revolving door between the Governor's Mansion and the US Senate.

Governors cannot hold consecutive terms in Virginia. They can hold multiple terms, just not multiple consecutive terms.

That seems strange and a little counter-productive.


Other states had the same restriction, but have all removed it by now. Virginia hasn't yet. So you get a cycle of Governor - Senator - Governor - Senator.

It wouldn't surprise me if Webb went after the next governor's election.
 
2012-09-28 01:44:40 PM

qorkfiend: EighthDay: doyner: FirstNationalBastard: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

What's even worse is that we get either dumb or dumber to replace him.

It's times like these one really wishes for a viable third party candidate.

Seriously, WTF is with Virginia? I'ts like a revolving door between the Governor's Mansion and the US Senate.

Governors cannot hold consecutive terms in Virginia. They can hold multiple terms, just not multiple consecutive terms.

That seems strange and a little counter-productive.


I did not know that. Huh.

It would be nice if there was a no-more-than-two-consecutive-terms law for the Senate though,12 years is a long time.
 
2012-09-28 01:47:11 PM

threedingers: And now the GOP is blocking a bill in the senate to provide veterans with an annual cost-of-living adjustment (link), and they blocked a veterans' jobs bill (link).


Didn't the House GOP high-five each other after a vote to repeal a $180 military pay decrease (yes, one hundred eighty annual dollars in pay, or a measly $15/month) failed? Yes, they did. And then they arrested a military mom for protesting their celebration (and the vote results).

Tell me again about how much you support the military.
 
2012-09-28 01:47:21 PM
Mitt supports the defense industry, and since companies are people, therefore he supports the military.
 
2012-09-28 01:48:06 PM

Dr Dreidel: Didn't the House GOP high-five each other after a vote to repeal a $180 military pay decrease (yes, one hundred eighty annual dollars in pay, or a measly $15/month) failed? Yes, they did.


Now with Linkovich Chamofsky.

// obscure?
 
2012-09-28 01:48:31 PM

EighthDay: qorkfiend: EighthDay: doyner: FirstNationalBastard: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

What's even worse is that we get either dumb or dumber to replace him.

It's times like these one really wishes for a viable third party candidate.

Seriously, WTF is with Virginia? I'ts like a revolving door between the Governor's Mansion and the US Senate.

Governors cannot hold consecutive terms in Virginia. They can hold multiple terms, just not multiple consecutive terms.

That seems strange and a little counter-productive.

Other states had the same restriction, but have all removed it by now. Virginia hasn't yet. So you get a cycle of Governor - Senator - Governor - Senator.

It wouldn't surprise me if Webb went after the next governor's election.


It just seems like crafted to prevent governors from introducing pet policies or programs. It's primed for cycles of Introduce Program - Dismantle Program - Undo Dismantling - Re-do Dismantling etc etc, which (in my mind) would basically prevent anyone from introducing new programs at all, because they'd just be dismantled when your term is over.
 
2012-09-28 01:49:43 PM
here's a link for the chickenhawk hall of shame

Link
 
2012-09-28 01:51:06 PM
I think only those actually working and paying taxes should vote. The rest of you parasites and leeches are too stupid to vote.
 
2012-09-28 01:53:23 PM

JudgeSmails: here's a link for the chickenhawk hall of shame

Link


It's as though it is a requirement for admittance into the GOP!
 
2012-09-28 01:54:55 PM

jwilson07: I think only those actually working and paying taxes should vote. The rest of you parasites and leeches are too stupid to vote.


Then we pass a law that states you have to provide valid proof of voter registration to be employed. Self-licking prophesy....er, self-fulfilling ice cream cone.
 
2012-09-28 01:55:44 PM

qorkfiend: It just seems like crafted to prevent governors from introducing pet policies or programs. It's primed for cycles of Introduce Program - Dismantle Program - Undo Dismantling - Re-do Dismantling etc etc, which (in my mind) would basically prevent anyone from introducing new programs at all, because they'd just be dismantled when your term is over.


Well, that's assuming you'd have a legislature willing to do that, too... It's also not saying you couldn't have the same PARTY carry the state for decades, just not the same person. So you could have some sort of weird tag-team - if the voters supported it.

/not sure on the relative executive vs legislative power in VA
 
2012-09-28 01:58:23 PM
Jim Webb is the only politician active in my lifetime who I've really liked. He spent his term in the Senate trying to push through bills that really make a difference, not grandstanding and pandering to idiots for purely political reasons like so many others. Most especially, his very first legislative proposal was the Post-9/11 GI Bill, without which I might never have been able to go to college- it would have been a lot harder, at the very least. He's everything John McCain pretends to be.
 
2012-09-28 01:59:51 PM

prjindigo: Romney said "47% of the people who will vote for the president" meaning 47% of the people who will vote for OBAMA.

Its farking comedy gold: 95% of the farking population is SOOOOO stupid that they think Romney is dumb and they can't comprehend englishia


the real comedy gold is people like you calling everybody else dumb when you don't actually know what Romney said and you're just parroting right-wing spin.
 
2012-09-28 02:02:08 PM
The Navy Cross is presented to James H. Webb, Jr., First Lieutenant, U.S. Marine Corps, for extraordinary heroism while serving as a Platoon Commander with Company D, First Battalion, Fifth Marines, First Marine Division (Reinforced), Fleet Marine Force, in connection with combat operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On July 10, 1969, while participating in a company-sized search and destroy operation deep in hostile territory, First Lieutenant Webb's platoon discovered a well-camouflaged bunker complex that appeared to be unoccupied. Deploying his men into defensive positions, First Lieutenant Webb was advancing to the first bunker when three enemy soldiers armed with hand grenades jumped out. Reacting instantly, he grabbed the closest man and, brandishing his .45 caliber pistol at the others, apprehended all three of the soldiers. Accompanied by one of his men, he then approached the second bunker and called for the enemy to surrender. When the hostile soldiers failed to answer him and threw a grenade that detonated dangerously close to him, First Lieutenant Webb detonated a claymore mine in the bunker aperture, accounting for two enemy casualties and disclosing the entrance to a tunnel. Despite the smoke and debris from the explosion and the possibility of enemy soldiers hiding in the tunnel, he then conducted a thorough search that yielded several items of equipment and numerous documents containing valuable intelligence data. Continuing the assault, he approached a third bunker and was preparing to fire into it when the enemy threw another grenade. Observing the grenade land dangerously close to his companion, First Lieutenant Webb simultaneously fired his weapon at the enemy, pushed the Marine away from the grenade, and shielded him from the explosion with his own body. Although sustaining painful fragmentation wounds from the explosion, he managed to throw a grenade into the aperture and completely destroy the remaining bunker. By his courage, aggressive leadership, and selfless devotion to duty, First Lieutenant Webb upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
 
2012-09-28 02:02:54 PM

prjindigo: Romney said "47% of the people who will vote for the president" meaning 47% of the people who will vote for OBAMA.

Its farking comedy gold: 95% of the farking population is SOOOOO stupid that they think Romney is dumb and they can't comprehend english!


Is this really a talking point now? Just changing what he said and running with it?
 
2012-09-28 02:03:47 PM
The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star Medal to James H. Webb, Jr. (0-106180), First Lieutenant, U.S. Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving as a Platoon Commander with Company D, First Battalion, Fifth Marines, FIRST Marine Division in connection with combat operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 9 May 1969, during Operation Muskogee Meadow, a six-man reconnaissance patrol from First Lieutenant Webb's platoon was ambushed and temporarily pinned down by a large North Vietnamese Army force concealed in a tree line four hundred meters in front of Company D's night defensive position. Immediately upon learning of the dangerous situation, First Lieutenant Webb organized a reaction force and proceeded to the point of contact to aid his beleaguered Marines. When his reaction unit came under enemy automatic weapons and rocket fire as it approached the ambush site, he executed a skillful evasive maneuver, established a base of fire, and continued to advance across the fire-swept terrain to the patrol's position. Rallying and encouraging his men, he directed his base of fire forward to a more advantageous position and led his assault team one hundred and fifty meters across on an open rice paddy in a bold attempt to recover several casualties lying in an open area directly in the line of enemy fire. As his Marines delivered a heavy volume of fire at hostile positions, First Lieutenant Webb repeatedly exposed himself to enemy fire as he dashed into the open and pulled the casualties, one at a time, back to friendly lines. Then, consolidating his platoon, he initiated a sudden, vigorous attack which routed the enemy soldiers from their bunkers, disorganized their fire plan, and forced them to retreat from the area. His determination and bold fighting spirit inspired all who observed him and were instrumental in saving the lives of at least two Marines and undoubtedly thwarting the enemy's plan to launch a major attack against his unit's night position. By his leadership, extraordinary courage, and unflagging devotion to duty at great personal risk, First Lieutenant Webb upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
 
2012-09-28 02:04:05 PM

qorkfiend: EighthDay: doyner: FirstNationalBastard: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

What's even worse is that we get either dumb or dumber to replace him.

It's times like these one really wishes for a viable third party candidate.

Seriously, WTF is with Virginia? I'ts like a revolving door between the Governor's Mansion and the US Senate.

Governors cannot hold consecutive terms in Virginia. They can hold multiple terms, just not multiple consecutive terms.

That seems strange and a little counter-productive.


Yeah, same here. Is that one of those weird laws that can't be changed unless the Governor signs off on it?
 
2012-09-28 02:05:08 PM
I just... I just don't get it anymore. Why are people so blind? How can anyone, let alone a soldier or veteran, vote for Romney? My faith in the American people cannot be lowered any further.
 
2012-09-28 02:05:16 PM
On a recent cover shoot I asked Romney about the image and found out that around 1968, while serving as a Mormon missionary in France, a young Mitt made several photographs with the help of his LDS friends. He described how the photo was taken, explaining that it was playfully staged for his high school girlfriend and soon-to-be wife, Ann Davies. Romney revealed that the photo is actually one of a series made during his time abroad.

The pictoral gesture worked. Davies joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints prior to marrying Romney in 1969, only months after Romney returned to the U.S. The pair later attended Brigham Young University before settling in Massachusetts, where they raised five sons together.

imageshack.us
 
2012-09-28 02:08:31 PM

EighthDay: qorkfiend: It just seems like crafted to prevent governors from introducing pet policies or programs. It's primed for cycles of Introduce Program - Dismantle Program - Undo Dismantling - Re-do Dismantling etc etc, which (in my mind) would basically prevent anyone from introducing new programs at all, because they'd just be dismantled when your term is over.

Well, that's assuming you'd have a legislature willing to do that, too... It's also not saying you couldn't have the same PARTY carry the state for decades, just not the same person. So you could have some sort of weird tag-team - if the voters supported it.

/not sure on the relative executive vs legislative power in VA


True. Could you do a Governor-Lt. Governor swap, or is someone ineligible for Governor also ineligible for Lt. Governor?
 
2012-09-28 02:12:13 PM

Corvus: Romney actually called his missionary work in France serving his nation to a military vet.

What an ass.


He did what? Seriously?
 
2012-09-28 02:13:11 PM

doyner: FirstNationalBastard: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

What's even worse is that we get either dumb or dumber to replace him.

It's times like these one really wishes for a viable third party candidate.

Seriously, WTF is with Virginia? I'ts like a revolving door between the Governor's Mansion and the US Senate.


Incumbent governors can't run for re-election. You can serve multiple four-year terms, but you have to sit out for an intervening term.
 
2012-09-28 02:15:34 PM

Bermuda59: Mitt supports the defense industry, and since companies are people, therefore he supports the military.


Sounds like the Bush Administration as well. To a 'T'.
 
2012-09-28 02:15:52 PM

mrshowrules: Only two pics you need on this guy:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x878]

[www.straight.com image 340x365]
Romney in France during Vietnam War

Of course, I could probably find a pic of Romney being silent while the audience at the GOP Primaries debated booed a veteran.


So he is saying that we should invade Iran but we'll most likely end up invading France instead?

Its not a bad idea... the French will never see it coming and even if they do, I don't think it will be a problem. After these last two long wars in the middle east, it will be great for troop morale to get an easy victory in.
 
2012-09-28 02:17:44 PM

St_Francis_P: Weaver95: St_Francis_P: Lando Lincoln: Does anybody seriously believe that Romney has any respect for people that go into the military? He sees them as poor people that are just trying to soak up more government tax dollars.

Worse yet, as a businessman he sees them as a big expense.

not true - i'm sure Romney views the military the same way most GOP insiders see them: as expendable resources. see, you need poor people - if you can't put them into workhouses (yet) then you can give them the illusion of hope and slightly better pay...and point them at your enemies. that way you channel aggression away from yourself, cause your enemies all sorts of problems AND might even gain new resources for your corporate machine.

of course, the problem is that not all of your expendables are going to end up dead...but that's ok, you just have to keep tabs on 'em and make sure they don't organize once they're out of the military. cut medical services and encourage them to believe that seeking help for mental health issues is a 'weakness', then flood the streets with cheap addictive and highly illegal drugs. that should lock them into a cycle of addiction/shame and keep them off your back.

easy peasey, up and easy.

We're saying the same thing: use them when needed, and dispose of them when possible. That's what a good businessman does.


It's also nice to have a backup plan for those who refuse to go along with you at first. Too poor for school and too ornery for the military?

voiceofdetroit.net

We appreciate your choice of Cheap-Labor as your way of serving your country by throwing your body on the gears of commerce so we can use your blood as lube.
 
2012-09-28 02:17:59 PM

Nadie_AZ: Corvus: Romney actually called his missionary work in France serving his nation to a military vet.

What an ass.

He did what? Seriously?


To be fair, if Romney actually joined the military, he likely would gotten a lot of Americans killed. I think it was better for everyone that he farked off as far as possible.
 
2012-09-28 02:20:16 PM

qorkfiend: EighthDay: qorkfiend: It just seems like crafted to prevent governors from introducing pet policies or programs. It's primed for cycles of Introduce Program - Dismantle Program - Undo Dismantling - Re-do Dismantling etc etc, which (in my mind) would basically prevent anyone from introducing new programs at all, because they'd just be dismantled when your term is over.

Well, that's assuming you'd have a legislature willing to do that, too... It's also not saying you couldn't have the same PARTY carry the state for decades, just not the same person. So you could have some sort of weird tag-team - if the voters supported it.

/not sure on the relative executive vs legislative power in VA

True. Could you do a Governor-Lt. Governor swap, or is someone ineligible for Governor also ineligible for Lt. Governor?


Unfortunately, my legalese on the subject is a bit sub-par, but if I'm reading the VA Constitution correctly, you could do that, although I doubt most people who aspire to be Governor would not want to drop to second fiddle.
 
2012-09-28 02:20:27 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Disgusting. Link


Wow, that's just... I don't even know.
 
2012-09-28 02:20:55 PM

sprawl15: First Lieutenant Webb repeatedly exposed himself to enemy fire as he dashed into the open and pulled the casualties, one at a time, back to friendly lines.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-28 02:25:04 PM

mrshowrules: Only two pics you need on this guy:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x878]

[www.straight.com image 340x365]
Romney in France during Vietnam War

Of course, I could probably find a pic of Romney being silent while the audience at the GOP Primaries debated booed a veteran.


Look at that farking hipster, wearing a skinny tie, riding a fixie.
 
2012-09-28 02:26:35 PM

sprawl15: Continuing the assault, he approached a third bunker and was preparing to fire into it when the enemy threw another grenade. Observing the grenade land dangerously close to his companion, First Lieutenant Webb simultaneously fired his weapon at the enemy, pushed the Marine away from the grenade, and shielded him from the explosion with his own body. Although sustaining painful fragmentation wounds from the explosion, he managed to throw a grenade into the aperture and completely destroy the remaining bunker.


www.magnetmagazine.com
DUDE! Watch where you throw those things you could hurt somebody like th-

WEBB!

WHAT IS IT LANA, I'M A LITTLE BUSY HERE. YOU'D THINK YOU'D BE A LITTLE MORE OBSERVANT SINCE YOUR A SPY AND ALL! JESU-

Uhhhhh... Grenade?

Oh. right.
 
2012-09-28 02:28:42 PM

doyner: qorkfiend: EighthDay: doyner: FirstNationalBastard: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

What's even worse is that we get either dumb or dumber to replace him.

It's times like these one really wishes for a viable third party candidate.

Seriously, WTF is with Virginia? I'ts like a revolving door between the Governor's Mansion and the US Senate.

Governors cannot hold consecutive terms in Virginia. They can hold multiple terms, just not multiple consecutive terms.

That seems strange and a little counter-productive.

I did not know that. Huh.

It would be nice if there was a no-more-than-two-consecutive-terms law for the Senate though,12 years is a long time.


I agree, but who makes those laws? This is one of the big flaws in our system. Congress can set/change the term limits for everyone else including themselves. But why would they do something to harm their life long pursuit of milking the American public?
 
2012-09-28 02:32:56 PM

prjindigo: Romney said "47% of the people who will vote for the president" meaning 47% of the people who will vote for OBAMA.


"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. And I mean, the president starts off with 48, 49, 48-he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn't connect. And he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean that's what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people-I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the 5 to 10 percent in the center that are independents that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending upon in some cases emotion, whether they like the guy or not, what it looks like. I mean, when you ask those people...we do all these polls-I find it amazing-we poll all these people, see where you stand on the polls, but 45 percent of the people will go with a Republican, and 48 or 4..."

Try again.
 
2012-09-28 02:38:46 PM

sprawl15: On a recent cover shoot I asked Romney about the image and found out that around 1968, while serving as a Mormon missionary in France, a young Mitt made several photographs with the help of his LDS friends. He described how the photo was taken, explaining that it was playfully staged for his high school girlfriend and soon-to-be wife, Ann Davies. Romney revealed that the photo is actually one of a series made during his time abroad.

The pictoral gesture worked. Davies joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints prior to marrying Romney in 1969, only months after Romney returned to the U.S. The pair later attended Brigham Young University before settling in Massachusetts, where they raised five sons together.

[imageshack.us image 640x429]


Fixed for truthiness.

i865.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-28 02:52:46 PM

EighthDay: qorkfiend: EighthDay: qorkfiend: It just seems like crafted to prevent governors from introducing pet policies or programs. It's primed for cycles of Introduce Program - Dismantle Program - Undo Dismantling - Re-do Dismantling etc etc, which (in my mind) would basically prevent anyone from introducing new programs at all, because they'd just be dismantled when your term is over.

Well, that's assuming you'd have a legislature willing to do that, too... It's also not saying you couldn't have the same PARTY carry the state for decades, just not the same person. So you could have some sort of weird tag-team - if the voters supported it.

/not sure on the relative executive vs legislative power in VA

True. Could you do a Governor-Lt. Governor swap, or is someone ineligible for Governor also ineligible for Lt. Governor?

Unfortunately, my legalese on the subject is a bit sub-par, but if I'm reading the VA Constitution correctly, you could do that, although I doubt most people who aspire to be Governor would not want to drop to second fiddle.


If one were to attempt that strategy it would be better to alternate between being governor and being attorney general. The lieutenant governor is about the 17th most important person in the government of the Commonwealth.
 
2012-09-28 02:53:52 PM
I will post this in every veteran's thread.

It's opened the eyes of many of my fellow servicemembers/veterans who USED to vote a straight GOP ticket.
 
2012-09-28 02:54:19 PM

Amdam: I just... I just don't get it anymore. Why are people so blind? How can anyone, let alone a soldier or veteran, vote for Romney? My faith in the American people cannot be lowered any further.


Because babies and republican prolife.

Its the only reason why my parents vote republican. If Obama was probirth, er, prolife, my parents would defend everything he does.
 
2012-09-28 02:54:54 PM

St_Francis_P: Lando Lincoln: Does anybody seriously believe that Romney has any respect for people that go into the military? He sees them as poor people that are just trying to soak up more government tax dollars.

Worse yet, as a businessman he sees them as a big expense profit center.

 
2012-09-28 02:57:16 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Disgusting. Link


And then, the smirk. ugh.
 
2012-09-28 02:57:36 PM

MrBallou: BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.

I've always expected he would run for President someday. I didn't know he was retiring.


He's a writer,not really a poltician, and while elected as democrat, he is at heart a conservative. He was moved to enter the race in 2006 out of his absolute disgust at the Bush adminsitration's handling of the war in Iraq, which is why he wore a pair of his son's (who was deployed there) combat boots for the duration of the campaign. He really was a modern-day Cincinattus, and now he's "returning to his farm" and while I never completely agreed with him, I will say the nation's poltical life is porer without his insights as a scholar and historian
 
2012-09-28 02:58:32 PM

GAT_00: unlikely: Weaver95: And yet, I know vets that will vote for Romney no matter what. go figure, right?

ALL the vets I know are posting OBAMMUNIST OMG REDISTRIBUTION LOL pretty much daily on their Facebook feeds.

I've got a batshiat insane Marine (is there any other kind) friend that varies between that and Republicans forcing God on everyone. It gets bizarre at times.

Fun story about this guy: I got him to pour salt into his own eye in 7th grade. By asking him to.


Sounds like he was destined for the Marines.
 
2012-09-28 03:00:48 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Coming from Jim Webb, that really burns.


and you have to know its from the heart. He doesn;t have to be out there stumping for Obama, he's got nothing to lose since he's retiring from the senate, and he and Obama are from opposite ends of the Democratic poltical spectrum. So the fact that he WAS there, Isuspect was largely so he could say what he did. Romney dun goofed and pissed Webb off
 
2012-09-28 03:02:11 PM

Nadie_AZ: Corvus: Romney actually called his missionary work in France serving his nation to a military vet.

What an ass.

He did what? Seriously?


He also said that his 5 sons were serving their country by helping him to get elected president. Really, you can't make this shiat up - link
 
2012-09-28 03:05:03 PM

Corvus: Romney actually called his missionary work in France serving his nation to a military vet.

What an ass.


I really want a source for this so I can show my Vietnam served dad.

If you can point me in a general direction, I would certainly appreciate it. If he really said this, he is a sack of shiat.
 
2012-09-28 03:05:50 PM
And yet again, the majority of vets will vote straight-ticket republican.

Dumbasses.
 
2012-09-28 03:09:29 PM

danfrank: Nadie_AZ: Corvus: Romney actually called his missionary work in France serving his nation to a military vet.

What an ass.

He did what? Seriously?

He also said that his 5 sons were serving their country by helping him to get elected president. Really, you can't make this shiat up - link


I am torn by this article. On one hand, the volunteer status of the military makes it absolutely fine that his sons never joined. On the other hand they are not "serving their country" by helping with an election campaign. They are helping with dad's election (or were, this was written in '09) which is fine. They are not serving their country.

If anything, this article just demonstrates Romney's gaffe problem.
 
2012-09-28 03:11:53 PM

trotsky: I am torn by this article. On one hand, the volunteer status of the military makes it absolutely fine that his sons never joined. On the other hand they are not "serving their country" by helping with an election campaign. They are helping with dad's election (or were, this was written in '09) which is fine. They are not serving their country.


Strictly speaking, the statement boils down to Romney remaining a shiatweasel.
 
2012-09-28 03:16:11 PM

Maud Dib: sprawl15: On a recent cover shoot I asked Romney about the image and found out that around 1968, while serving as a Mormon missionary in France, a young Mitt made several photographs with the help of his LDS friends. He described how the photo was taken, explaining that it was playfully staged for his high school girlfriend and soon-to-be wife, Ann Davies. Romney revealed that the photo is actually one of a series made during his time abroad.

The pictoral gesture worked. Davies joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints prior to marrying Romney in 1969, only months after Romney returned to the U.S. The pair later attended Brigham Young University before settling in Massachusetts, where they raised five sons together.

[imageshack.us image 640x429]

Fixed for truthiness.

[i865.photobucket.com image 634x425]


Jesus. This is dangerous. Seriously. If I were you guys I wouldn't post this on facebook or anything.
 
2012-09-28 03:21:10 PM

malaktaus: Jim Webb is the only politician active in my lifetime who I've really liked. He spent his term in the Senate trying to push through bills that really make a difference, not grandstanding and pandering to idiots for purely political reasons like so many others. Most especially, his very first legislative proposal was the Post-9/11 GI Bill, without which I might never have been able to go to college- it would have been a lot harder, at the very least. He's everything John McCain pretends to be.


This is probably the best summation of Webb that I've ever read.
 
2012-09-28 03:24:08 PM

trotsky: Maud Dib: sprawl15: On a recent cover shoot I asked Romney about the image and found out that around 1968, while serving as a Mormon missionary in France, a young Mitt made several photographs with the help of his LDS friends. He described how the photo was taken, explaining that it was playfully staged for his high school girlfriend and soon-to-be wife, Ann Davies. Romney revealed that the photo is actually one of a series made during his time abroad.

The pictoral gesture worked. Davies joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints prior to marrying Romney in 1969, only months after Romney returned to the U.S. The pair later attended Brigham Young University before settling in Massachusetts, where they raised five sons together.

[imageshack.us image 640x429]

Fixed for truthiness.

[i865.photobucket.com image 634x425]

Jesus. This is dangerous. Seriously. If I were you guys I wouldn't post this on facebook or anything.


Or on /b/, that would really be reckless.
 
2012-09-28 03:32:43 PM
It's a shame he's leaving. We could really use more legislators like him.

Hell, we could use more PEOPLE like him.
 
2012-09-28 03:48:26 PM

IXI Jim IXI: It's a shame he's leaving. We could really use more legislators like him.

Hell, we could use more PEOPLE like him.


Not that Jim Webb is a full-on bastard or anything, but the man did recommend (in 1979) that women not be admitted to the military service academies. He also said (in 2006) that perhaps women serving on the battlefield might not be ideal.

This guy was Reagan's Secretary of the Navy. He may have been a product of a different era, leaving him with some anachronistic views, and he's a damn sight better than Romney (as a man and as a politician), but he's not perfect.

// I say this a lot - the only "perfect" candidate you'll ever find is you
// I'd vote for JWebb to be my Senator
 
2012-09-28 03:50:25 PM
The real WTF is that Republicans are responsible for the lowest income earners not paying taxes in the first place. In other words, Romney blamed Obama for something the Republicans did.
 
2012-09-28 04:01:16 PM

MrEricSir: The real WTF is that Republicans are responsible for the lowest income earners not paying taxes in the first place. In other words, Romney blamed Obama for something the Republicans did.


90% of what Romney blames Obama on is based on the mess he is cleaning up after Bush

- unemployment
- food stamps
- debt
- etc.. etc...
 
2012-09-28 04:17:49 PM
He openly admitted he equates the living, breathing, feeling human beings in the military with the vehicles, equipment, and ordnance. All of it is merely tools to be used until destroyed or worn out and discarded. Yet people will vote for him because he's "not the Obama!". It's truly sad how people will willingly go against their own best interests to either stick it to someone they dislike or to see everything crumble around themselves.

4.bp.blogspot.com

"Not the Obama! Not the Obama!"
 
2012-09-28 04:18:47 PM

Tigger: Romney is a morally bankrupt sub-human sack of shiat. His supporters are pig ignorant farkwits dragging down the entire human race, and that's the good ones. The remainder are evil scum who should be incinerated or driven into the sea.


At least they won't have to walk.
 
2012-09-28 04:34:42 PM

Weaver95: Mugato: I think it's clear that Romney not only doesn't care about vets and currently serving soldiers, he has open contempt for them. So all you republicans with your magnetic ribbons on your SUVs can go fark yourselves.

/that doesn't even get into the fact that he has every intention of invading Iran and basically anything Israel tells him, by his own words
//President Romney= a shiatton of dead soldiers and nothing for the ones who make it back
///brilliant move, vets for Romney.

And yet, I know vets that will vote for Romney no matter what. go figure, right?


Just like there are women who will vote for that turd with a combover - Todd Akin.
 
2012-09-28 05:21:28 PM

GAT_00: mrshowrules: Only two pics you need on this guy:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x878]

[www.straight.com image 340x365]
Romney in France during Vietnam War

Of course, I could probably find a pic of Romney being silent while the audience at the GOP Primaries debated booed a veteran.

[i575.photobucket.com image 494x430]


Not the greatest candidate, but 4 more years of ObaMao will kill our country!
 
2012-09-28 07:50:54 PM

BritneysSpeculum: It is a shame that Senator Webb is retiring or at least not running again. His moderate voice will be missed in the national debate.


IMO, that's the problem with the national debate. In a sane political climate, Jim Webb would be a conservative party leader, not a "moderate" who's only a member of the so-called "liberal" party because the so-called "conservative" party is batshiat crazy.
 
2012-09-28 07:57:40 PM

Dr Dreidel: doyner: And to compound our national shame over Vietnam, it looks as though we'll never elect a president who served there. The American political class like to talk about having "skin in the game" when it comes to taxes, yet as a body they sure seem to be resistant to life choices that could give them the perspective of the troops they claim so much to care about.

We've had the chance. Apparently, voters are happier denigrating purple hearts.


Well, to be fair, a Democrat "earned" them. So he really didn't earn them.
 
2012-09-28 08:11:39 PM
As I said in the initial thread with the video...

I get tax-free VA disability compensation. Nice to know where Mitt stands on that.

I can't believe VA benefits haven't been a larger part of the coverage over this comment.
 
2012-09-28 09:01:08 PM

Dr Dreidel: IXI Jim IXI: It's a shame he's leaving. We could really use more legislators like him.

Hell, we could use more PEOPLE like him.

Not that Jim Webb is a full-on bastard or anything, but the man did recommend (in 1979) that women not be admitted to the military service academies. He also said (in 2006) that perhaps women serving on the battlefield might not be ideal.

This guy was Reagan's Secretary of the Navy. He may have been a product of a different era, leaving him with some anachronistic views, and he's a damn sight better than Romney (as a man and as a politician), but he's not perfect.

// I say this a lot - the only "perfect" candidate you'll ever find is you
// I'd vote for JWebb to be my Senator


Meh, a lot of old-time combat veterans have that view, based on their experiences in Vietnam; I can't fault them for thinking combat--and possible POW camp--is not a place for women. I'll let him slide on that one.
 
2012-09-28 09:38:18 PM
mormons firmly believe in the apocalypse. They believe there will be a massive war in the middle east, and that at the very height of this war for the ages, Christ will descend from heaven and create a Mormon paradise on earth called Zion. So we have all that to look forward to with Rmoney in charge of things.
 
2012-09-29 12:42:38 AM

LikeALeafOnTheWind: mormons firmly believe in the apocalypse. They believe there will be a massive war in the middle east, and that at the very height of this war for the ages, Christ will descend from heaven and create a Mormon paradise on earth called Zion. So we have all that to look forward to with Rmoney in charge of things.


If that happens, I will be the baddest ass in the devils army.
 
2012-09-29 01:01:27 AM
Romney, like GW Bush, is a coward. Both of them ran from real service, hiding in places where they would not have to truly serve. Anyone who would support their actions as anything other than self-serving cowardice should be expunged from this country. Obama did not serve, but he did not gung-ho support the waste that was Vietnam like Romney.

Now, Romney says that vets are leaches and scum that drain the US treasury. How can conservatives support such hypocrisy and still have the energy to molest their children?
 
2012-09-29 01:23:22 AM

unlikely: Weaver95: And yet, I know vets that will vote for Romney no matter what. go figure, right?

ALL the vets I know are posting OBAMMUNIST OMG REDISTRIBUTION LOL pretty much daily on their Facebook feeds.


Yep. I'm prolly deployed with a bunch of those ass-clowns right now. It is simply amazing to me that these people.....wait...no I'm not. Obama's problem is

1) He's black, and there are still a shiatload of racists in the military, no matter what the official fish-wrap tells you
2) He's a Democrat, so in many reduced-brain function military members who've been fed a steady stream of Fox News and conservative BS from boot camp on up, means that Obama hates the military and Republicans have ALWAYS been good for the military (I won't even begin to comment on how wrong, time and time again, that thought process is)
3) He's black.

And behold, many use their position in the military to preach conservative values and promote the conservative agenda, but will not see any discipline for it.
 
2012-09-29 03:40:25 AM

Mi-5: unlikely: Weaver95: And yet, I know vets that will vote for Romney no matter what. go figure, right?

ALL the vets I know are posting OBAMMUNIST OMG REDISTRIBUTION LOL pretty much daily on their Facebook feeds.

Yep. I'm prolly deployed with a bunch of those ass-clowns right now. It is simply amazing to me that these people.....wait...no I'm not. Obama's problem is

1) He's black, and there are still a shiatload of racists in the military, no matter what the official fish-wrap tells you
2) He's a Democrat, so in many reduced-brain function military members who've been fed a steady stream of Fox News and conservative BS from boot camp on up, means that Obama hates the military and Republicans have ALWAYS been good for the military (I won't even begin to comment on how wrong, time and time again, that thought process is)
3) He's black.

And behold, many use their position in the military to preach conservative values and promote the conservative agenda, but will not see any discipline for it.


Maybe you can tell me: I suspect there is a lot more tolerance towards minorities in todays military than there was in the past. Could it be that veterans generally mean much older former service members?
 
2012-09-29 08:44:45 AM
Thank you, Senator, for hooking us up with the new GI Bill.
 
2012-09-29 09:38:42 AM

Frederick: Maybe you can tell me: I suspect there is a lot more tolerance towards minorities in todays military than there was in the past. Could it be that veterans generally mean much older former service members?


My veteran friends with the regular derpstreams are mostly between 30 and 45.
 
2012-09-29 10:55:27 AM

Frederick: LikeALeafOnTheWind: mormons firmly believe in the apocalypse. They believe there will be a massive war in the middle east, and that at the very height of this war for the ages, Christ will descend from heaven and create a Mormon paradise on earth called Zion. So we have all that to look forward to with Rmoney in charge of things.

If that happens, I will be the baddest ass in the devils army.


The cut of your jib, I LIKE it
 
2012-09-29 07:51:17 PM

Lumpmoose: How did Democrats go from the "draft-dodging" Clinton to dominance in matters of foreign policy and military credibility? One too many purple heart band-aids I guess.


Simple - having someone as commander-in-chief who knows WTF they are doing and uses his head for something other than a place to put a cowboy hat.
 
2012-09-29 11:07:44 PM

Wellon Dowd: If one were to attempt that strategy it would be better to alternate between being governor and being attorney general. The lieutenant governor is about the 17th most important person in the government of the Commonwealth.


But couldn't you just have the ticket of Washington/Adams elected governor in 2013, then in 2017 they run as Adams/Washington, and Adams resigns a week into his term (with Washington appointing Adams as his LG if it works that way)? If you're enough of an ass to try that, the fact that it violates the spirit of the law isn't going to stop you.
 
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